Gundam is a bad franchise per the fact there are more lackluster and mediocre entries than good and great ones.

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>>23972465
i have listened to someone i respect disparage over how we should have feral magical women instead of pedophilic magical girls but her example was a gundam in a highschool girls' uniform vs a gundam in the evangelion highschool girls' uniform
i get the feeling that adults are cool but also very bad at being self aware about how their childhood molded them

>>23972470
They had a golden run from 1979-1992 though, the only bad release in that time was F91 (and maybe SD Gundam I guess, it's not that funny)

>>23972465
>Neon Genesis Evangelion is overrated
>Unpopular opinion
On what website?

>>23972465
I unironically think it's looped back again and it's underappreciated as an actual mecha show because everyone argues about symbolism and depressed kids.

>>23972937
Probably on reddit

>>23972465
>Neon Genesis Evangelion
Speaking of this show, my unpopular opinion is that flesh /m/echa are not real mecha and belong to a genre of their own. NGE has more in common with Attack on Titan's "mecha battles" than with Gundam.

>>23973178
That's not an unpopular opinion, that's straight up retardation.

>>23972465
Gundam UC has too many fantastical elements that it is not a real robot anime anymore.

If you don't care more about the girls in evangelion than the story, then you didn't get it.
TV mecha anime aren't bad for being toy commercials, they're mostly just too long and their plots are always spread too thin. There's loads of shows that'd be better if they were 25 episodes and not bloated 50 episode slogs. But, nothing to be done about it, it's saturday morning business.
Tomino talks up the fangirls because he thinks they appreciate his writing, and that the boys just like the gunpla. They do not, they just want to absorb it into their gay rape fanfiction the same way they do everything else.
Perfect Soldier as explained in votoms expanded material stuff is stupid. Quantum immortality is kind of a lame power and makes chirico less cool for being a good fighter.
People are mostly on the ball with super and real being at best largely blurred but mech and mecha being separate subgenres also isn't a real thing.
Almost all "mecha isn't realistic" discussion is enacted by people who wouldn't know anyway, they just parrot what they hear, they don't actually know any better than anyone else.
More people need to just ignore the shitty parts of gundam rather than treat it like star wars EU where you have to consider it all canon. G-Saviour doesn't happen. None of the shitty manga where there's a secret cumulon gundam piloted by ghirens clone in the OYW happen. Tomino doesn't care, why should you?
Mecha triggers an inferiority complex in people the same way that elves and superman do. This is why some people see one and immediately start freaking out and ranting about how you could definately blow it up with tactics and the indomitable human spirit. It's just nerd insecurity over things being stronger.
>>23973178
AoT doesn't really use any mecha tropes, which is why no one recommends it as a mecha show, which is why it isn't. It's more one of those monster disaster type shows. It's way closer to something like gantz or terraformars than gundam.

>>23976657
I liked when newtype abilities were things like funnels instead of doing crazy jedi shit

>>23976673
>AoT doesn't really use any mecha tropes
The protagonist could call his flesh mech like Mazinger Z, also he could synchronize with the mech to control it better and loss of control could result in him falling asleep and the flesh mech going berserk. There were also different types of titans like various Gundam models. The armored tank type, the small super agile type, the jack of all trades (protagonist), the glass canon type (colossal titan)...etc. I think AoT also had a war arc but I can't confirm since I've only watched season 1.

>>23976680
Yep. UC writers can't help themselves but add new space magic abilities which is just a power creep like a typical shonen anime. Because right now if someone asks for a real robot recommendation I'd say Macross or Patlabor.

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>>23976673
>AoT doesn't really use any mecha tropes

Isayama literally copied G Gundam. Heck /a/ even made a compilation of G Gundam references

>>23972465
Godannar was trash, the characters were all unlikable and you would hate them all if you weren't able to fap to them

>>23976796
You didn't watch Mazinger.
>>23976893
This says more about you than godannar.

>>23976830
Shame since unicorn had good designs and then there was time travel and shit

>>23972465

Not wrong to stray away from hetero romances in a story with mecha.

After watching the whole thing on Thursday and Friday, Yamato 2202 might be the best mecha anime of all time.* No joke, no troll, no irony, no sarcasm, you anons are missing out if you haven't seen it

*Keroro Gunsou transcends the concept of animation and doesn't count, I doubt something like that can reach 11/10

>>23976830
One of the many reasons I'm a Zeta movies timeline man. They never went beyond it so the most fantastical it got was Kamille's power of friendship with ghosts headbutt

I don't understand the boomer Asuka vs Rei debates. Asuka wins by default, it's hard to even find /c/ute art of Rei Ayanami because kuuderes are the most uncute dere archetype.

>>23977148
Same and I'm not just saying this because I'm a Marifag

>>23977159
>Mari
Cute megane girl that shouldn't exist. There's no point in remaking the show as a series of movies if you're not going to be faithful to the original.

>>23977148
>it's hard to even find /c/ute art of Rei
Newfag piece of shit.

>>23977046
>Shame since unicorn had good designs and then there was time travel and shit

there isn't enough time travel in Unicorn and Narrative, they don't seem to commit to anything actually interesting

>>23972465
yup, you're right. I wanna fuck Asuka

>>23977191
Her thread on /c/ was dying and the last post isn't even cute.

>>23972470
>Gundam is a bad franchise per the fact there are more lackluster and mediocre entries than good and great ones.
I don't think this is an unpopular opinion anymore, unfortunately.

>>23972465
>didn’t
Neon genesis evangelion is not overrated
The fans are the reason it insists upon itself as they assign value and weight to things that don't need it

>>23973178
Are power armor not Mecha?

>>23977179
It's not a remake

>>23972465
I like diebuster as much as gunbuster and I think it's more rewatchable

>>23977231
Well whatever shit the neo zeong did idk but I didn’t like space magic, gquacks was worse when newtypes can make their own timeline

>>23977364
Literally all this time travelling shit is because lalah said
"I can see time!" That one time

>>23977397
I took it to mean that she sees space-time continuum based on how she was aiming from ridiculous distances. No, it had to be time travel.

>>23977405
Right it was interpreted vaguely, which means anything was/is unfortunately on the table

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>>23977405
>>23977397
Funny since gquacks started out as pokemon battles with mobile suits which I didn’t like, it became more zeon focused which I did like and then just jumped the shark into the gundamverse

>>23977503
>pokemon battles
Are you retarded.

>>23977517
nta but it does also look like pokemon in terms of character design
why is there always an anon replying to good ideas by calling the poster a retard? is it just a specifically coded bot? i wish there were more useful bots like ones that instabanned anons who post threads with AI pictures

>>23977522
If you get called a retard you probably didn't post a "good idea".

>>23972465
I missed the part that was unpopular anon

>>23977522
>why is there always an anon replying to good ideas by calling the poster a retard?
its an ESL quxfag who hates Americans. he has one insult and no arguments, just ignore him

>>23977405
Imagine creating an imaginary particles called Minovsky particles so missile tracking and regular communication won't work only to end up with time travel and reality bending shenanigans. Why is UC like this?

>>23977875
What are you trying to imply?

>>23977875
qux isnt UC, a bastardized zaku does not a UC make

>>23972465
Re:Rise is just as bad as Divers but for completely different reasons, it throws away a setting that had potential in favour of an extremely generic isekai setting and goes through an identity crisis where it wants to be taken soopah sewiously. People who actually think it "redeemed" divers need to check themselves into a mental institute

>>23972503
what?

>>23977148
idiot

>>23978190
Someone finally posted a couple of cute Reis in her /c/ thread.

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>>23977522
I mean clan battles are kinda Pokemon battles not just saying that because of gkeks characters being designed by the pokemon artist

>>23978312
>clan battles are kinda Pokemon battles
No.

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>>23972465
G Gundam is the best Gundam series ever of all time, and it will always be.
The best and most powerful Gundam ever is God Gundam, and it is also the best Gundam design ever.
Metal Wolf Chaos is, BY FAR, the best FromSoftware game ever, and not just of their mecha games. What I mean by "BY FAR" is that it's not even as close as one end of the universe is as close to the other.
Capcom should do more with everything that is has that is mecha related, I especially miss Blodia.
>>23977268
Both Gunbuster and Diebuster are too short, and they're unnaturally too fast paced and rushed because of it. Both are flawed stories though in differing ways, but even still they're enjoyable. I'd say they're both overrated and mediocre, but not outright bad because they're still fun. Though Diebuster is worse than Gunbuster, so you have a bit of a shit taste.

>>23977148
>retarded angry hapa with an orange dye job who'd fuck anything with a pulse
>superhuman god mother of mankind who's always loyal to her family
damn anon youre right that is a really really hard choice

>>23978596
What's god gundam going to do when unicorn goes back in time and kills its parents?

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>>23978698
Between the two Asuka would be fun to tease. My first choice when it comes to Evangelion girls is the class rep.

>>23978936
Pull some bullshit off again to fight Unicorn Gundam in the time travel tunnel, but it'll be fun because G Gundam is cool

>>23972954
yeah it gets overanalyzed (it's not that deep) and thrashed so much on account of its retard hyperfans that people forget how cool a lot of the action sequences are
the episode where they drain the entire electrical grid for a giant sniper rifle and give rei a borrowed space shuttle heat shield is sick as fuck for reasons that have nothing to do with the issues surrounding the show

>>23977599
>he has one insult and no arguments
thats definitely not unique to quxfaggotry, at least not on 4chins

>>23979431
>yeah it gets overanalyzed (it's not that deep)
evangelion in a nutshell, every cringelord who ever made a 1hr commentary retrospective or pretends evangelion shaped their intellect or something gay I guarantee you doesn't even know that at the base of it
>Anno is just a toku fan
or worse
>have never heard of kamen rider or ultraman
the other day I was watching TTGL with some people and someone called the jumping dive kick the "asuka kick"

>>23979444
>have never heard of kamen rider or ultraman
true i've had the "eva is mostly ultraman" conversation many times and yeah, you just get blank stares from "fans"
>someone called the jumping dive kick the "asuka kick"
thankful i have not had this conversation

Imagine some guys talking about their favorite show and all you can muster from the corner of the room is "actually eva is just ultraman" lmao.

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>>23979451
its absolutely ridiculous that people will try to build up this mythology around anno's psyche and how depthful the themes are
But then you throw the retarded idea that "he just likes that stuff and is a dork" and suddenly you're breaching unfathomable territory

And it's a classic case of a souls-like where they just vaguely speak of stuff and you're expected to fill in the details

Only anno has a resume and what he desires is bizarrely consistent
>hiomage to the pillars of toku
>hilariously autistic eye for technical stuff like cars, aircraft models, and other shit no one cares about

>>23979457
Whole fanbases that never have and never will play the souls games exist simply because loretubers are willing to extrapolate and grasp at straws in a way that plays on peoples' imagination

Youd think 10-15 years down the line FromSoft would know how to write a cohesive story and build a world that makes sense, but theyve been at it for so fucking long now with their cryptic BS
and what makes it BS is
>zero bearing on the gameplay
>all the text is meaningless to the plot
>you're a tard if you dont think people evoke the name Zanzibart in mockery

All this to say alot of people like to apply their imagination to stupid stuff because they're uninformed and should be mocked for it
they genuinely put the cart before the horse when it comes to anno, and im not saying he's simple in a derisive way, just that his stuff is so simple its easy for people to fill in the blanks to craft a narrative they prefer.
Only you have to be a real idiot to pretend to follow this (see follow, as in being influenced by dumb fucking influencers and their opinions) and not even realize that anno's resume, style, and homages all paint a clear picture of anno
which is unironically
actually eva is just an ultramanlike lmao.

Case in point.

>>23979466
>cryptic BS
You didn't pay attention and it shows.
>zero bearing on the gameplay
Except for the part where you read enemy equipment text and can figure out the boss' weakness before you fight them.
>all the text is meaningless to the plot
Except for the part where the text helps you make informed decisions about the type of ending you think the world deserves.
Anyway, I don't give a shit about DS. I've only played Elden Ring and Bloodborne.

>>23979486
Play DS2, it's a lot of fun especially the coop.

>>23979458
A lot of the refusal is leftover residue from the "anno hates anime! eva is the anti-gundam! if you're a fan of eva, you didn't get it!" era, and admitting he actually really likes gundam spoils the whole facade for them.

>>23979490
But that's the bullshit the haters spout.

>>23979490
>People who use the word deconstruction just use it to sound smart
Lmao if gcucks is good at one thing it's being so chock full of animation and plot references that even diehard post 2010 Gundam fans won't get them

>>23979502
That sentence makes no sense.

>>23979505
Sure it does I just skipped a bunch of context and maybe some punctuation
>When people interpret anno it's usually to say eva is a deconstruction of Mecha
Which is fucking stupid because Mecha is not a popular franchise so the people saying are talking out of their ass
>Cucks is made by anno's studio and the show is written at least partly by anno, who anon says has gone on further record to refute any naysayers by saying he likes Gundam
And my evidence being that gcucks is so full of homages that 2010 pseudo intellectuals (see:forming your opinion based on youtubers you happen to not disagree with) could never hope to understand any of this crap because they speed watched it or watched the sparknotes on a YouTube and pretended like they watched it
Or worse
>Pretended to be fans of it

>>23979511
I'm really not here to be pedantic but you are making a lot of assumptions and shadowboxing a bunch of strawmen.

>>23979515
>You are making a lot of assumptions and shadowboxing a bunch of strawmen
I don't think you've discussed eva or gundam with anyone in real life before, to which I say they definitely aren't strawmen but common (lack) of knowledge

>>23979515
The bot is going haywire and has to pull shit out of his ass, nothing new.

>>23979524
>People actually think this
>It's true Mecha is a niche genre
>It's true most people don't know what toku is and only are familiar that power rangers invented dressing up and doing stunts
>It's true the average person who says they like nge will pull the 'deconstruction' word out of their ass when discussing nge
>No no no he's pulling stuff out of his ass there's no evidence
I see responses like yours all the time shilling and starting shit on other boards, and I genuinely can't tell if you're a trollbot, but ill pretend you are

I still say timeline order rather than production order is the superior way to watch UC.

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>>23977148
>I don't understand the boomer Asuka vs Rei debates. Rei wins by default
FTFY

>>23979551
Every season 1 of every show ever is made with the assumption that they might not get a season 2, in short no prequel is needed.

>>23979551
No, it's very retarded to jump around shows that are seperated by decades and made by different staff.

>>23979532
Yeah I'm shilling for a 30 year old anime with no new releases in sight.
>what I say is true because I say so
You are actually mentally disabled.

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Ultraseven is a lesser series compared to Ultraman.
Outside of Dan and Ann, its characters are immensely forgettable compared to the Science Patrol, and solely focusing on alien invasions means it is a lot more repetitive than ‘66-man. Further, it just looks cheaper and many of its designs are a step down by comparison.

>>23979555

How is that related to what >>23979551 said?

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>>23979554
>cheerleader Rei
This would require Rei to have a non stoical, non utilitarian personality, which she doesn't. Even her underwear are a cheap utilitarian white that allows her to see stains. She would never buy a cheerleader outfit for herself, the real Rei is a dozen times less cute than the headcanon Rei that lives inside your head.

>>23979583
There's constantly someone saying this unprovoked in the M78 threads, so it can't be that unpopular.

>>23978936
Overpower and nullify it with sheer willpower, of course.

>>23979579
>Yeah I'm shilling for a 30 year old anime with no new releases in sight.
yeah, and youre wondering why i think youre dumb

>>23979592
She will when she gets ordered for it.

>>23979644
I'm not wondering anything, retards like you behave in mysterious ways.

Gunpla should not cost this much.
It should cost aboug the same as chink bootlegs plus waterslides instead of sticker decals.

Nyaan should have been impregnated by Shuuji to symbolize his lack of regard for the girls.

>>23979740
But we need to gatekeep kids and the browns somehow.

>>23979758
Make it unpainted out of the box

>>23979555
>Every season 1 of every show ever is made with the assumption that they might not get a season 2
not true when it comes to western productions

Mecha isn't a niche genre, it's highly popular. It's only mildly niche solely in the anglosphere because most of us didn't grow up with any of it, which had already changed around the time gundam wing was a big thing. Not only is it just regular style popular with beloved tv shows in many countries other than japan, everyone loves everything japan now and the "ugh, weird japanese thing!" mainstream response is over.

Mechwarrior isn't the real main image of mecha in the west, since it's a floundering franchise that's completely failed to reach a new audience in the way gundam currently already successfully has, and is rapidly losing its cultural relevancy in the way stuff like robotech already did long ago.

If anything people really love to say that mecha is niche solely to excuse specific franchises from bombing because they fucked up. Pacific rim made a billion dollars and then they shot the franchise in the head. It was just a normal big popular show and they fucked it.

>>23980076
You are correct in most of what you said but generally people claim something is niche for nerd points. There's tons of retards on twitter posting shitty opinions about mecha like they are connoisseurs of the genre and it's just shit they read on gundam wiki or here.

>>23980076
>Mechwarrior isn't the real main image of mecha in the west
I read Lancer RPG and could not find any instance of "mecha", it was just "mech" every time. This is without going into the Orientalism

>>23980119
Those guys are a different beast. I've read their interviews and they're dollar store "Mecha is weird! weird! toy commercial! I wish it was about the characters, not the robots!". I don't think they mention mechwarrior at all, they're just outsider parasites. That's more like your aunt calling all consoles nintendos.

>>23979558
I find a good compromise is to do the OYW in one go and the watch the rest in production order, otherwise it gets annoying how often they keep jumping back to that one time period.

>>23980183
Which, come to think of it, is exactly what Sunrise did themselves when it first got an official English release.

>>23980137
>I wish it was about the characters, not the robots!
Did... they even watch 0079? God I hate theater kids.