Uh... duh?

>>23982455
KWAB

>>23982455
> Mounting a high-end, live-action superhero series of the caliber of Power Rangers is a major investment

Excuse me, but how is Power Rangers expensive? It's a bunch of people in spandex suits using karate to fight monsters in rubber suits. It's one of the CHEAPEST TV shows to ever make.

Where is all the money going if Disney claims they can't afford to make the TV show?

>>23982461
making another woke flop to please investors

>>23982461
Toku has a lot of budget saving measures but it still can be rather expensive. Sentai was cancelled because in order to be considered a success, relative to the budget 10 years ago, they would hope for an annual earnings of at least 10 billion yen, give or take. That's not a "ton" for American entertainment but the budgets of everything American are going to be higher, which also means that they need to make more money to justify the spending.
It's possible that some retard at Disney saw the average PR show budget and assumed that making a new one would be in the same ballpark, while ignoring that their most expensive footage was licensed from a franchise that is no longer being filmed and also using characters that PR's obsession with Mighty Morphin can't actually utilize.

Actual live-action stunt work is probably one of the most expensive things in the current industry, at that. Disney would probably rather do it all with CG or mocap like the rest of their capeshit but someone on the creative staff probably said that for the target audience, actual physical stunts are a non-negotiable.

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>>23982461
>how is Power Rangers expensive? It's a bunch of people in spandex suits using karate to fight monsters in rubber suits. It's one of the CHEAPEST TV shows to ever make.
...Do you think the spandex suits and the monster suits and the main villain suits and the Zord suits and the miniature city sets and the Ranger headquarter set and the villain headquarter set and all the martial arts stuntwork and CGI and optical effects and pyrotechnics all happen for a quarter a piece? Not to mention the obvious shit all shows have like cast, writers, music, etc.? Just because it's cheesy and kid-friendly doesn't mean it's cheap AT ALL.

>>23982476
Adapting whatever hasbro or saban hadn't touched would be cheaper, shitty american hubris would get in the way and they would find some way to shit it up
If they went the same path as hasbro, they'd also shit that up. They wouldn't do Power Ranger or Tokusatsu in general any justice
There are a lot of ways to make power rangers far more popular but no one knows how to do it?

>>23982461
The Sentai counterpart was getting more and more expensive to make which was one of the reasons it's been put on hiatus. Project R.E.D. is Toei experimenting and seeing how much they can get away with lower and lower budgets.

Well that explains the lack of budget in Project Red. No more free money for Toei.

lower and lower budgets and more
>trust me, keep watching and it will get good
from shirakura
can't wait for Project R.E.D. to shit the bed

>>23982484
>Do you think the spandex suits
Yes it's cheap. Note that I said cheap. Not poorly made.

>and the monster suits
Yes

>and the main villain suits
Yes


>and the Zord suits
Yes


>and the miniature city sets
Lol yes.


>and the Ranger headquarter set
Oh wow a normal set.

>and the villain headquarter set
Really digging the bottom of the barrel aren't you?


>and all the martial arts stuntwork
There are millions of martial arts practioners in the USA. Hire some of them. It's what Mortal Kombat did.

>and CGI
The only thing so far that youve listed that might be slightly more expensive.

>and optical effects
Huh? You mean CGI?

>and pyrotechnics
You mean sparklers and fireworks? Lmao.


all happen for a quarter a piece?
It's cheap enough that Disney shouldn't care about it. Not when they are dropping $250 million dollars on single season of a Disney+ show like Star Wars.

>>23982476
>Actual live-action stunt work is probably one of the most expensive things in the current industry
Walk into a local martial arts gym. Hire a bunch of them. That's literally what Mortal Kombat did. It worked out great.

>>23982461
Major US film/tv production nowadays are fucking expensive. US have lack of experience with creating their own toku nor have the toku production company like PLEX.

>>23982455
AND NEEEEEEEEEW

>>23982499
and when was that Mortal Kombat movie you speak of?

Did Hasbro put their own money in the production and not just streaming money that they were received?

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>>23982497
>>and the monster suits
>Yes
>>and the main villain suits
>Yes
>>and the Zord suits
>Yes
Go make a TV show/movie quality monster suit. Get back to me on how cheap it was.

>and the Ranger headquarter set
>Oh wow a normal set.
>and the villain headquarter set
>Really digging the bottom of the barrel aren't you?
You clearly need more budget for a sci-fi related set than you would an ordinary one. Do you think you can do "bridge of the Enterprise" for as cheap as "suburban kid's bedroom"?

>You mean sparklers and fireworks? Lmao.
>pic related
Wow, look at that sparkler.

>>23982499
>Walk into a local martial arts gym. Hire a bunch of them.
Yeah, cause those will be professionals. They're in a gym, they must know how to do wirework stunts!

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>>23982499
Team-coordinated stunt work and character acting, in a suit that typically gives extremely limited vision and even with the more breathable Sentai designs can be harder to move in than regular clothes. You need a form of specific training for it if you want it to be any good.
Oh and you also need directors familiar with the process. Apparently when China tried to make their own toku even when they import Japanese suit actors their directors aren't able to use them properly.

>>23982461
Well for one, Toku is actually getting more expensive to shoot these days mostly because Japan is becoming more and more restrictive on it. But this was gonna be a modern Disney Plus show with CG fancy costumes and no rubber suits. So it was cost MCU level money. Not a surprise they couldn't make it work.

Two options, animate the shit for netflix or just let it die. Its an outdated formula, you don’t need color coded heroes on a team. You can easily have unique team of different looking characters and still have a giant robot.

>>23982520
The whole appeal of toku is the live action part.

>>23982487
At this point they missed their chance. Sentai shut down so they're not gonna get any production help on that end and it's been so long all the monster suits and whatnot have probably been scrapped. It would have to be like early PR season 1 again where they couldn't interact with the Sentai footage in any meaningful way, which would be way more obvious in this day and age

>>23982527
MOTW suits have a 5 year shelf lifespan. After that they start to crack and rot. Hasbro crawling back to Toei is definitely on the non-zero range now.

>>23982499
Tokusatsu suit acting is an art form that takes years of practice to get good. Everytime the US just put stuntmen in it looked hokey because they didn't know how to move and pose properly. Look at the American made Thunderzord footage in the couple of episodes they did, it's mostly stock footage intercut with them failing around in one place because the guys can barely walk because they don't know how to move in the clunky suits.

>>23982510
Hasbro won't even spend their own money to make the toys.

>>23982520
Animation is even more expensive

>>23982461
You need to considered actors, writers, costumes production and maintenance, stunt team,pryo, safety team medic, filming permit, catering, CGI and post production and lastly unions.

>>23982531
That assumes Toei saves them, they reuse and kitbash stuff constantly now. Even if they crawl back to Toei Toei will say "How unfortunate, we're not making Sentai anymore and can't provide the stuff you need for PR. Can't be helped. And we're not contractually obligated for Project RED because it's not Sentai. So either renegotiate the contract to not fuck us over or good day sir. You can pay PLEX to rebuild everything from scratch out of your own pocket if you like and they'll get around to it when they're done with RED and Rider stuff"

>>23982461
>Excuse me, but how is Power Rangers expensive?
Well, they're actually trying to make their own footage now and not just buying someone else's work

>It's one of the CHEAPEST TV shows to ever make.
Its cheap because they just used most of someone else's work. And stunts and effects aren't cheap when you're doing them yourself.

>>23982540
Saving them for kitbashing and future crossover movies sounds like a good reason to keep them. In any case, it makes the situation a bit more favorable for Toei.
>they'll get around to it when they're done with RED and Rider stuff
It's not like they do a lot of R.E.D. stuff since it's on an even lower budget.

>>23982545
Yeah but the issue is many of them have already been kitbashed. It also means they can go back to Donbrothers at the earliest (Zenkaiger is not an option) and ever year that goes by they hesitate is another series which stuff has probably deteriorated or otherwise been used up. It's not looking good for PR on that end.

Why don't they just give up, even Transformers has a hard time staying relevant, and that had multiple blockbuster movies and shows.

>>23982550
>Donbrothers at the earliest (Zenkaiger is not an option)

It's basically Kingohger or nothing. Donbrothers has CGI characters they'll have to work in which will make the budget unfeasible and some of the suits have already been lost like Zenkaiger Black, Boonboomger has the tirefaces which will be dubbed too silly and Zenkaiger and Gozyuger lean heavily into previous series stuff which they've made clear they want to cut off from which is why they doing the whole original reboot in the first place.

Kingohger also relies heavily on Toei's CG soundstage which they won't have access to so that's also a hiccup but the suits probably would be positively accepted. But the clock is ticking, they'd need to get the ball rolling like NOW in order to film stuff before the monster suits are unusable. And given how they hemmed and hawwed over the reboot for like a year and a half before going through with it and then changing their mind not long after it's not looking good. And even then, that buys them like 2 seasons max and then they're back to square one

>>23982552
Because they spent a fuck ton of money buying the IP because the guy who died had plans for it. They also haven't given up their dream of a Cinematic universe which they need IP for that isn't just TF and GI Joe

>>23982554
Jesus, Marvel doesn't have the same appeal and DC tried a cinematic universe and failed, and they believe people care about a TF GI Joe universe?

>>23982555
Number must go up

>>23982555
They basically thought of this when the MCU was at it's peak and they wanted Endgame money.

>>23982553
It's already too late as we speak, the time it would take to cast, built sets, find film locations similar to Kingohger's, ship the suits and monsters suits (god forbid they have to rebuild them), find directors, writers, and allocate funds, they'll decide it's too much hassle
I can't tell where this idea that sentai or power rangers is cheap, like you said, Toei had a fucking soundstage to film scenes for Kingohger

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>>23982455
... Oh no... What a tragedy... I was really looking forward to it... As was everyone... It was going to be so good... Probably... Maybe... Sorta...

As a thing to make fun of.

No but really, who the fuck didn't predict this shit? It's been nearly 40 fucking years and every time they anything but sentai reshoots it has failed. There is a damn good reason every single Power Rangers show is just an existing Sentai show with reshoots, it's the only reason it has stuck around for so long. When Sentai died, we all knew Power Rangers would go down with it, a parasite just can't survive without the host organism.

>>23982555
Still waiting on that Fast And Furious Transformers movie, it'll be trash but it will be my trash

>>23982558
>I can't tell where this idea that sentai or power rangers is cheap

It was cheap in the 90s which when the Sentai to PR pipeline was created

>>23982535
Not anymore, live action is actually more expensive

>>23982455
Can we please kill this robotech of a franchise already?

>>23982562
Cheap because you think it's cheap, not because it was actually cheap

>>23982559
It's funny because Power Rangers is directly responsible for killing off Sentai because they wanted to stop using Sentai footage so what goes around comes around

>>23982455
No shit. If even japan tried to move on from super sentai, what chance do power rangers have?

If Toei was smart they'd let Hasbro stew for a few years then offer to collab on PR in exchange for a renegotiation where they get a bigger cut and Sentai is classified as a separate IP they can freely use globally without Hasbro's interference. That would be a win for everybody. But I expect Hasbro will just ignore it and keep looking for a way to make the money Saban made with it in the 90s in vain until they go out of business

>>23982564
For anime and Toku it is. A Netflix level western animated show for PR would cost just as much if not more as a live action show. They're not gonna make cheap anime slop it would have to be on the level of Invicible or K Pop Demon hunters or Netflix won't want it

>>23982570
Hasbro going out of business would be great, but transformers fans will somehow keep it afloat through bankruptcy

>>23982566
It was cheap early on because Sentai footage took care of almost all the suit scenes, so all they needed to do was film some putty fights and high school scenes with a bunch of non union martial arts actors they worked to the bone on the cheap. Meanwhile merch made money hand over fist. So in that respect yes PR was insanely cheap to produce compared to the profit it made. But that's not the case anymore. In fact it probably wasn't the case even a few years in

>>23982573
You mean MtGfags, since that's the one truly profitable thing they own

>>23982575
Well I did include Sentai in my point, but even then PR was insanely cheap to produce for the first three seasons until expectations started to grow and eyes shifted away from the series

>>23982514
>Go make a TV show/movie quality monster suit. Get back to me on how cheap it was.
Star Wars fans literally make Professional grade storm trooper armor in their basement.

The Mandalorian TV show used them during production. They invited cosplay fans to act as Stormtroopers during filming.

>>23982587
>Star Wars fans literally make Professional grade storm trooper armor in their basement.
So one might say, "they did it for free"?

>>23982587
>suit of plastic armor
>huge ass monster
How about we try a comparison that's actually similar?
>"Have you ever built your own car?"
>"I changed the tire on my bicycle once."

>>23982594
Hes also glossing over that by doing that, they completely circumvented any cost of making those suits themselves.

>>23982488
Zoning restrictions were another issue that wasn't brought up as much. Changes in zoning laws post COVID meant numerous iconic locations were no longer available for filming or permitted it on their grounds

>>23982591
>>23982600
>Hes also glossing over that by doing that, they completely circumvented any cost of making those suits themselves.

Browsing the fans forums, the builders say Stormtrooper suits cost about $2000 each for a standard professional grade suit (full suit + a standard rifle). A bit higher if you want extra accessories like larger backpacks, bigger rifle, or extra kit (such as binoculars) or custom armor attached to the suit. If you want all the extra stuff then the top end is around $3000 to $4000 ish.

So yeah the suit costs nothing for a company like Disney that drops hundreds of millions of dollars on a production.

>So one might say, "they did it for free"?
The Director said suit cost wasn't an issue. The main problem was they didn't have enough bodies or people to play Stormtroopers for larger scenes. So they cast from the local cosplay groups and star wars fan groups and asked them if they wanted to be part of the show. The fans brought their own armor whixh, according to the Director, was just as good as the suits Disney had available.

>>23982507
>and when was that Mortal Kombat movie you speak of?
The most recent one came out earlier this year.

>>23982476
>>23982484
>>23982514
>Yeah, cause those will be professionals. They're in a gym, they must know how to do wirework stunts!

Listen. It's clear that none of you know how Hollywood actually works. In America, there isn't some special samurai club like in Japan where a suit actor has to apprentice for 20 years as a lowly assistant before he's allowed to touch the spandex power ranger suit. In America, Hollywood hires locals ALL THE TIME.

I'll give you another example. For all of Christopher Nolan's Batman movies used local martial artists from local martial arts clubs to play thugs for Batman to fight on screen. In the Dark Knight Rises, most of Bane's soldiers you see on screen were martial artists cast from the local Chicago area. That huge final battle with the cops fighting Bane's soldiers? Like 90% of the people you see were just local martial artists they hired.

>>23982455
So now what?

>>23982630
>Browsing the fans forums, the builders say Stormtrooper suits cost about $2000 each
>If you want all the extra stuff then the top end is around $3000 to $4000 ish.
That's cool. Super Sentai/Power Rangers monster suits cost anywhere from $10,000 to $20,000 each. And there's usually roughly anywhere from 40 to 60 of those per season. Plus the Zord suits. So.

>>23982639
>In America, there isn't some special samurai club like in Japan
You mean... A union? Pretty sure you can't just grab some jackass off the street and tell him to jump off a building. Like I think there's literal laws and shit.
>Christopher Nolan's Batman movies used local martial artists from local martial arts clubs to play thugs for Batman to fight on screen.
I don't think you understand how severely nothing "pretend to be punched or shot and fall down" is compared to the crazy shit they do in Super Sentai/Power Rangers.
>That huge final battle with the cops fighting Bane's soldiers?
You mean the people in the background that are pretend-fighting while all the focus is on Batman and Bane? Those guys?

>>23982476
>Sentai was cancelled because in order to be considered a success, relative to the budget 10 years ago, they would hope for an annual earnings of at least 10 billion yen, give or take
Asians are notoriously stingy when it comes to money. Especially the Japanese. One of the Japanese actors had to survive on ramen packets and eating ice cubes because his pay was so low. Power rangers has its own problems but I think a lot of Sentai fans gloss over a lot of problems with the Sentai franchise. It's become too dominated by Toy companies demanding billions in profits with such tiny budgets for the actual TV show.

This is most likely a tax write off, right?

>>23982665
>And there's usually roughly anywhere from 40 to 60 of those per season. Plus the Zord suits. So.

So what? Again that's nothing to Disney. No matter how desperately you try to inflate the numbers, it's meaningless. Nothing but a drop in the bucket.

>You mean... A union?
Wrong. We both know the Japanese don't have unions. You have a bunch of underpaid suit actor freelancers. I recall a YouTube interview where one of the suit actors said his pay was so tiny that he had to do a part time job at a convenience store just to survive.

>>23982680
If it was as cheap and easy as you claim, Disney would've been filming a long time ago.

>>23982639
>Listen. It's clear that none of you know how Hollywood actually works. In America, there isn't some special samurai club like in Japan where a suit actor has to apprentice for 20 years as a lowly assistant before he's allowed to touch the spandex power ranger suit. In America, Hollywood hires locals ALL THE TIME.

Again the issue is that if they don't have the training to move in a big rubber monster suit it will look like shit as PR found out when they hired random stunt people to use the suits Toei sent them and it looks jarringly off compared to the Sentai footage. Even in PR the movie the stunt director was complaining the hollywood guys the cast didn't know how to do the kabuki esque movements the Sentai actors in the show did and it took them a ridiculous amount of takes beyond expected to get it right to the point that JYB himself eventually took over for the black ranger guy. Yeah it's possible they find some local toku nerds who looked into how to do it properly but that's not likely.

>>23982680
>You have a bunch of underpaid suit actor freelancers. I recall a YouTube interview where one of the suit actors said his pay was so tiny that he had to do a part time job at a convenience store just to survive.

Not for the guys that play the major heroes and villains. Those are always Japan Action Enterprise veterans who are paid very well because of the danger.

>>23982685
That just means it's the fault of the PR production staff for hiring the wrong people. Not the fault of martial artists in the movie or TV show.

>>23982699
The problem is the right people are nigh impossible to find in the US because almost everyone familiar with how to work with that style of suit and filming are only in Japan. They'd have to find trained stuntmen who are also toku nerds and studied their work extensively

>>23982680
>Wrong. We both know the Japanese don't have unions.
No, I mean the U.S. You said the U.S. doesn't have a "special little samurai stuntman club" like Japan does, and I was correcting you with the existence of unions, that we very much do have over here.

>>23982705
They'd probably need a bunch of guys like Reuben Langdon who himself is probably too old for that kind of stuff now but people with his background.

>>23982532
The mecha suits being in pretty bad shape already because of the rough use during Dairanger didn't help either. They had to splice A LOT of Dairanger, Zyu2 and Kakuranger footage to make that fight work.

>>23982706
1. I was referring to the Japanese practice of having to beg to be part of the cool kids club before they let you work. Japan is dominated by Talent Agencies and industry personal connections.

2. In the USA, Power Rangers for most of the franchise career has been a non union show. Even during the Hasbro era, the staff was not unionized.

3. Unions are not universal. For the USA, It depends on which state the show is filmed in. Some states are non-union states.

4. Japanese Super Sentai production also is not fully unionized either. Only a handful of the production crew are represented by unions. A huge majority of the crew are freelancers and contractors. Unions are relatively weak in Japan.

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I've always wanted original zords in a show and it's baffling we never ever got it. The closest thing would be korea's Kyoryuger Brave which retooled the main mecha.

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>>23982455
I mean, there wasn’t really gonna be a point to this at all and would’ve been just another failed reboot at worst

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This aged like milk

This has Saban being slimy assholes that take notes from Harmony Gold all over it.

>>23982950
Even at time of posting it was a retarded take. Some actual, "Why would we need farms when we can get food at the store?" level of room temperature IQ.

They can't just keep shilling MMPR forever. People who were the original Power Rangers fans as kids are straight up fucking middle aged now.

At this rate, I'd rather take a well-done MMPR animation based off the comic runs they had in the 90s and 00s. Just concentrate the budget on the animation quality and VAs, then turn a profit off toys, models, and books.
A live action one just won't work in this day and age.

>>23982455
And nothing of value was lost

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>>23982950
Uh, yeah, I don't see how anyone could have thought this. The only thing that's kinda true about is that Power Rangers is a more recognisable brand name but that's as far as it really gets.

The fact that Power Rangers always relied on existing special effects footage and pre-made costumes means there was virtually zero independance from beginning to end. The fact that Power Rangers kept cutting corners like only hiring non-union workers and filming in New Zealand shows that there was no incentive to up the ante, if anything the just kept lowering the bar. Until the end, Sentai was a yearly thing for 47 years and always tried to make it past at least 45 episodes each show. Power Rangers tended to have year long gaps in production and just got shorter and shorter, the last season literally only 10 episodes. Let me reiterate that, despite having hundreds of episodes to take footage from, they still couldn't be bothered to make more than 10 the final time around, that's sad.

The only actual things PR has done without existing Sentai material are three shitty movies and a bunch of comics that keep getting cancelled, there is basically no future for Power Rangers without Sentai.

>>23982455
How hard is it to do fucking Power Rangers? They did it nearly consistently for 30 years, and all of a sudden, it's too hard?
>But Sentai Ended!
There's still seasons they can adapt.

>>23983026
>and all of a sudden, it's too hard?
Yeah. Because they thought they were too good to use the Sentai footage anymore.

>>23983032
>Yeah. Because they thought they were too good to use the Sentai footage anymore.
They should've had a plan before stopping it. It's just been a fucking mess watching them stumble every step of the way to get ANYTHING off the ground without Sentai.

>>23982497
All of that shit is ridiculously expensive. I know you think power rangers looks cheap, but you clearly have no fucking clue what cheap actually looks like. Go look up some local heroes, or indie tokusatsu, and you'll see what "cheap" gets you. It takes a lot of time and money to get to Toei quality.

>>23983026
It was always hard. But the profit margin used to be worth it. The toys sell like shit now. Why spend all the time and money for marginal return?

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>>23983026
Cause even if it wasn’t stupidly expensive, they can’t be assed to try. Like look what they’re doing with the pipeline from Kyuuranger to Cosmic Fury. Look how big the fucking ranger cast is, and they condensed 40+ worth of episodes into ten fucking episodes. Like how fucking pathetic is THAT?

>>23982993
Every franchise in the West has to center around "the original" for some reason. If Gundam were an American series they'd contrive some reason for Amuro to take up martial arts for a year and then never again to get him as the lead of G Gundam.
Maybe it's that they are constantly chasing the meteoric success of the first breakout and not realizing that, in general, they'll never have the same level of public success as their initial boom period.
Didn't they have a period in Transformers where they tried changing out like one member of the core cast and it was received so negatively they decided that every series had to always focus on the same characters?

>>23983060
Technically, if PR was brought back they could still use those suits.

>>23983022
I love how the franchise ended with an anti-Mighty Morphin in Dino Fury keeping in mind that Mighty Morphin went on for three years because season 1 was so popular and they didn't want to ditch the Zyuranger costumes, whereas we ended up with three straight years of a terminally unpopular Lame and Gay Ryusouless because Hasbro wanted to ditch Sentai but, at the same time, were scared fucking shitless because they had no idea what to do next (as it turns out, what was next was sweet fuck all). That they resorted to dinowank yet again whilst keeping the fumes running up to the 30th anniversary is the cherry on top.

>>23982455
Just let it die.

>>23982476
They could buy the rights to previous sentai before zyuranger.

Then use AI upscale to make it look like a modern filmed show.

Imagine this becoming power rangers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US8Yty-Nuxk

>>23983059
The death of cable TV and the destruction of the monoculture basically makes it near impossible for something like Power Rangers to succeed. Having something run consistently enough o TV made it possible to attract new viewers. Now, its hard for people to even be watching the same things anymore.

>>23983137
You're fucking retarded.

>>23983061
Well it's a good thing Japan isn't like that. I'm glad we never have to see 0079, Zeta and Chars counter attack in every SRW

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>>23983061
>Didn't they have a period in Transformers where they tried changing out like one member of the core cast and it was received so negatively they decided that every series had to always focus on the same characters?
Yeah, the movie.

>>23983196
The movie swapped out the entire cast because they wanted flashier futuristic characters voiced by celebrities and people rejected that. That was too much. the GI Joe managed to split the difference by still keeping most of the regular tv cast around despite the new characters

>>23983137
What are they gonna do about original footage? The props and suits for all that are probably dust now

>>23983022
The problem is Japan still airs stuff weekly on tv while as much US kids tv is dead. Netflix was their only option but Netflix doesn't want or need syndication levels of episodes just a season of 10 episodes to binge watch.

Speaking of, that's another nail in PRs coffin, it has no distribution option anymore. Nickelodeon doesn't want it, Disney doesn't want it, Netflix doesn't want it.

>>23983207
Toku, particularly old toku, was made on a shoestring budget compared to jewlywood shit so they could recreate what they need. Hell, they could just not bother with original footage since, let's be honest here, it kinda defeats the point of ripping-off Sentai anyway.

>>23982982
Saban's not involved anymore. He sold it entirely to Hasbro. He just gets some creator credits. This is entirely because Disney didn't want to pay full production costs for something they knew was gonna do middling numbers for an IP they don't own and don't need when they have Marvel. Which literally everyone said.

>>23982732
They straight up destroyed the Dairenoh and Won Tiger suits during their use. That's why they're not in Toei's archive with the other robot suits

>>23983205
I assume things were different for Japan like for examples Car Robots is part of Japan's G1 continuity while in America, Robots in Disguise was treated as a reboot.

>>23983219
>Hell, they could just not bother with original footage since, let's be honest here, it kinda defeats the point of ripping-off Sentai anyway.

They need original footage to blend it otherwise it looks blatantly off when the US actors and Japanese suits are never in the same frame. Otherwise you get messes like the early season 2 Megazord fights where they were using Toei original Zyuranger footage crossed with Dairanger mecha footage and it looked like crap because it just reaction shots over and over.

>>23983205
The reception to the Transformers movie literally made them change how the GI Joe movie was going to be. And even then the sequel TV series after the movie essentislly had an entirely new cast.

>>23983223
Japan didn't get the movie until years later. That's why Headmasters's flashback to Prime's first death was him getting sniped by Megatron when fighting outside the Ark because they didn't know about how he died in the movie yet.

>>23983228
Yeah and season 3 was not nearly as well liked as a result to the point of them having to bring Optimus back. After that Hasbro learned they couldn't just swap the entire cast and setting everytime they wanted to clear the toy shelves.

>>23983230
I believe that's also what led to this masterpiece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWjmkk5H9PE

>>23983233
Yeah and when they did do successive series later on, more of the cast stuck around like in the Energon trilogy. I wasn't even born when the Transformers cartoon was airing but I did grow up watching a fuck ton of GI Joe on tape and DVD. I remember hating the movie because Duke dies(I thought Flint was cooler anyways but Duke's death was awful), Cobra Commander is revealed to be a snake man, and Serpentor was lame as fuck as a replacement bad guy. I never watch much of what came after the movie because of that. And it also bothered me that successor GI Joe cartoons had more revolving casts and that some of my favorites from the old cartoon didn't come back. If I was a kid back when the Transformers movie came out I'd have been pissed.

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reminder that this is what Tokusatsu look like without a decent budget.

tokusatsu, sentai, and even like Ultraman relies on toys and other merchandise to basically fund their stuff. if the merchandise doesn't sell, there's no point in doing them

>>23983062
Except the mecha footage was used already so they'd either need to make original mecha to accomodate them or go without them.

>>23983222
Yeah, apparently Toei gave them the "OK" for that.

>>23983284
Toei didn't, they were expecting them back at some point but since they never actually told them they couldn't destroy them they were kind of stuck when Saban said he blew them up. Afterwards Toei was very specific that hero side props like the robot suits and weapons had to be kept in good order and returned to them when PR was done.

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>>23982455
as much of a PR fan I am, im glad it's over

>>23982758
The point has gone over your head yet again, despite having the same thing explained to you over and over and over. Just shut the fuck up

>>23982772
>it's baffling we never ever got it
It would cost more money than just reusing what Toei already made (both the footage and the suits). They could have comissioned Toei for new original suits and footage like in Zyu2, but it saves money to just use what already existed. If they left Toei out and just designed, built, and filmed the original Zord designs themselves, it would also cost money, plus they'd have to actually think about how it would work. Not worth it, especially when the only reason PR exists is to reuse Toei's shit.

>>23983194
Or K-K-KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO or A-A-A-DOBECHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>23983373
No you missed the original point. You don't know how Hollywood works and have been proven wrong repeatedly. Disney is a freaking multi billion dollar corporation. They can easily pay for whatever nonsense you listed. That includes hiring martial arts experts and whatever Japanese veterans they need to make sure the choreography is done right. You are also forgetting that Power Rangers was filmed in New Zealand for years without problems either. And on a much smaller budget.

Take the L and go home boy.

High quality thread, as expected from the powerful rangers

>>23983326
>Toei didn't, they were expecting them back at some point but since they never actually told them they couldn't destroy them
You don't know how Sentai works. Toei never expected them back. Toei was a shitshow back in the 80s and 90s. An organizational mess. Toei made no effort to preserve the suits or costumes after the show ended. You can find pictures and videos of the costumes haphazardly thrown on the warehouse floor. All of it mixed together in a total mess. Most of the stuff was destroyed after the show ended. It was only many years later did Toei make an effort to preserve some of the costumes. And mostly because the Americans asked them to take better care of old xostumes so they could use the costumes in the Power Rangers show.

>>23983054
>All of that shit is ridiculously expensive. I know you think power rangers looks cheap, but you clearly have no fucking clue what cheap actually looks like. Go look up some local heroes, or indie tokusatsu, and you'll see what "cheap" gets you. It takes a lot of time and money to get to Toei quality.

You dont seem to realize that Disney regularly drops $200 to $250 million dollars for each season of their streaming shows on Disney+.

Sentai doesn't even compare. Each of their Sentai episodes is made for like half a million to maybe 1 million dollars at most. It's a shoestring budget by TV standards.

Disney can easily afford every single thing you listed while laughing at your pathetic attempts to make Sentai sound expensive.

>>23983434
>Toei made no effort to preserve the suits or costumes after the show ended.

Only monsters. They kept every robot suit since BFJ in display quality even if they can't be used for filming anymore beyond statues. They absolutely would have kept Dairenoh if PR didn't destroy it

>>23983444
NTA but there's the thing. Yes Disney could potentially afford it. But it wouldn't give them the profit margin they want which was PR's original profits of making insane money because it was being made for basically nothing thanks to Sentai footage already doing most of the work. The problem with Power Rangers is nobody wants to pay for it now because they want it to be made stupidly cheap with ridiculous profit like in the 90s. Why would Disney want to pay that money for an IP they don't even own when they could make more Marvel stuff

>>23983446
>They kept every robot suit since BFJ in display quality
No Toei didn't. And definitely not museum display quality. We have stories of Americans receiving costumes and robot suits from Japan. And a lot of them were very worn out, in poor shape, and/or torn in several areas. The American staff had to do emergency repairs to the costumes they got from Japan. The staff even talked about how some of camera angles they used in the American show were chosen in order to hide the damage on the Japanese costumes. To avoid showing tears and rips.

For many decades, Toei's process was:

1. Make new costumes.

2. Use and abuse them. Make sure they last for the duration of the show.

3. Once show ends, toss them haphazardly in the warehouse with no real effort made to store them properly or preserve them.


The same problems happened in Kamen Rider with their costumes. And the Godzilla monster costumes too.

Many Kamen Rider costumes were lost due to poor storage from Toei.

>>23983456
The poor condition on the Won Tiger suit was VERY apparent. Look at the original zord footage from early season 3. The Tiger face was in really bad shape and it looks like the American team had to fix it the best they could.

>>23983429
Now you got me curious. What does anyone here think of Akibaranger?

>>23983444
A season of Super Sentai cost maybe 50mil. Maybe. Cheap compared to some slop; and the profit on merch sales STILL wasn't good enough for Toei to keep it going. What makes you think Disney would consider that meager return worth the effort when as >>23983452 said, they could just make more Marvel stuff?

>>23983561
I was really into it when it first came out. Never really saw season 2, but I found the first one very enjoyable as a Toku nerd in my early 20s. I think you had to be there.

>>23983456
You can straight up see the old robot costumes on display in Toei's museum and in Zenkaiger briefly. Most still look relatively decent

>>23983583
>>23983444
Both of you are waaaaaay off and completely overestimating the budget. Super Sentai episodes have a budget of roughly $150,000 dollars per episode and can go up to $200,000 for special effects heavy episodes that have more action or CGI. With the total seasonal budget being roughly $7 to 8 million dollars.

It's hilarious because Super Sentai reported $44 million dollars in toy sales last year. With some Sentai series reaching as high as $60 million dollars in toy sales. Yet somehow this isn't enough for the greedy Executives at Toei.

>>23983592
>You can straight up see the old robot costumes on display in Toei's museum and in Zenkaiger briefly. Most still look relatively decent
The vast majority of those are reproductions. They aren't using the same exact costumes and robot suits from the 1990s. Those have fallen apart or have been discarded long ago.

>>23983456
Isn't that why Masked Rider had to rely on stock footage even from ZO and J for shit due to how old RX was then like every other not-Power Rangers show it eventually ran out of stock footage to use. Hell, Superhuman Samurai Syber-Squad even recycled fights from previous episodes.

>>23983598
Some of them are. The Muteki Shogun suit that they used for Gozyuger is the same suit that was used for Kakuranger over 30 years ago. It being a brick that was hard to move in really helped it as it wasn't roughed up too much when they were filming Kakuranger.

>>23983614
>The Muteki Shogun suit that they used for Gozyuger is the same suit that was used for Kakuranger over 30 years ago.
Wait what? I thought the whole reason it didn't do anything in the Kakuranger Anniversary Special was because it was literally unable to be moved. But it got a whole-ass fight scene in Gozyuger.

>>23983615
The special couldn't accommodate a mecha fight because Junior's son never used Gigantism nor the modern yokai did. It was more to show off the Kakurangers themselves.

>>23983620
Story-wise, sure. But I thought the real-life reason that forced them to write it so none of the Yokai to use Gigantism in the special was because the old mech suits weren't usable and there was no budget to make new ones.

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>>23983598
I know the mechanical stuff is original. Like the actual motor bikes and special cars. But I genuinely wonder if they still function? When was the last time the bikes from Ohranger were started up? Anything with an engine and oil needs to be preserved in a specific way to prevent rust and the engine from being damaged from sitting for years.

>>23983602
Well sort of. Masked Rider still had the RX suits and Shadow Moon suit to use just no monster suits. RX might have been a recreation but Shadow Moon wasn't if only because it only shows up for a minute or two to terrorize civilians before the RX footage kicks in and I find it hard to believe they'd make a whole suit just for that. It also very notably didn't have the other Showa Rider suits in the finale (given they were the original show suits they probably were unusable by 1995) to the point where they had to dress Dex in Kotaro's very 80s clothes so they could use the back of Kotaro's head to play Dex in shots with them.

Syber Squad had no excuse though, it hadn't even been a year since Gridman ended and all the suits were still available (Gridman would use them in photo novels for a few years afterwards) Syber Squad just actively choose not to film any new footage and just reuse fights probably because building Gridman's very complex cyberspace sets wasn't something they wanted to do. VR Troopers meanwhile had nothing to work with. They made some US footage Metalder Speilban and Diana suits but they were very clearly cheap looking compared to the Japan ones. Otherwise they were stuck using repainted Red Ranger suits for most of their original battle footage.

>>23983631
They typically don't. Acrobattler showed up in the Black episodes of Decade 20 years later but it clearly wasn't running anymore because it only just sat there in the background. Same with Ridoron in GP it was CG every time it wasn't sitting there (and is also notably more beat up looking when it's the original prop).

Decade's bike crapped out only a year or two after his show ended, to the point where he had to use Gaim's bike in KRT and in BuildxZio it's CG intercut with extreme close ups of Decade sitting on what is clearly a stationary bike he's rocking back and forth to pretend it's moving.

I think Tridoron still works because it's occasionally used in car shows, but in most of Drive's returns it was CG just for ease of filming.

>>23983633
I think the original plan was to adapt that Gridman sequel that never happened. Which is why there was that episode where Kilokahn is defeated only for Malcolm to have him saved on a floppy disk. Even funnier is how Sam doesn't appear in the final episode which has Tank become Servo. Unlike Gridman, I don't think the show ever explained Servo's backstory let alone if he was a separate entity from Sam.

>>23983636
>Decade's bike crapped out only a year or two after his show ended, to the point where he had to use Gaim's bike in KRT and in BuildxZio it's CG intercut with extreme close ups of Decade sitting on what is clearly a stationary bike he's rocking back and forth to pretend it's moving.

Whoa. This is the first time in hearing about this. And only 1 to 2 years after it was debuted? Is it because Toei doesn't maintain their vehicles? Do they not realize these are still motor vehicles that need regular maintenance right? You still need to do annual vehicle stuff like engine oil, transmission oil, and fuel system flushes. You can't just run these vehicles hard for 2 years straight without actually doing any maintenance.

>>23983645
>I think the original plan was to adapt that Gridman sequel that never happened

It was. Malcom's actor was even signed on for it and looking forward to it, they were just waiting for Japan to do the sequel for the footage until it was clear it wasn't happening. To this day the actor was bummed it didn't happen.

>Unlike Gridman, I don't think the show ever explained Servo's backstory let alone if he was a separate entity from Sam.

He wasn't. He was just a program they made in the first episode that got linked to Sam when he got shocked. In the original planned ending Sam's body would disappear and he would be permanently stuck as Servo leaving to remain in the net similar to Gridman leaving at the end of his show but when they extended it they changed it to the memory reset fixing everything

>>23983650
I think they just had a problem with Machine Decader specifically. Usually they last a fair bit longer than that. BuildxExaid had OOO and Fourze using their bike's even though it had been 5 plus years and they still clearly ran

>D-Disney could afford to do Power Rangers show
They could but they don't want to otherwise they would've continue the production. Disney knows that Power Rangers doesn't worth the cost for niche IPs. Hell, Disney + is bleeding money and some Disney films doesn't do well in the box office like they were hoping for and that's the reason of why they cancelled the PR production

>>23983022
>and a bunch of comics that keep getting cancelled
You're saying that as if they were consistently short runners
GGPR lasted longer than expected up until they couldn't keep the time gap in place and the original MMPR run only "ended" because it was relaunched as two series' before combining back to one.
As far as licensed comic standards go, it was a success
Is it doing well now though?
No, it's entered late stage licenseshit syndrome when Prime got canned early, the Return didn't get a sequel for whatever reason, and now the current canon is basically regurgitating the Return but worse
Unlimited is pretty good though but I wouldn't be surprised if it's all just a last hurrah
I highly doubt the people who wanted the license are still at Boom

>>23982461
>>23982476
>>23982484
>>23982497
>>23982772
IIRC Chip said at Morphicon that PR original Zord fights were rare because the US crew didn't have the same experience in shooting them the way the Japanese do
The people at Toei know every trick and cost cutting measure to make it all work and look well (for the most part) while American can pour in more money and STILL get something that looks worse because they're doing it "wrong"

>>23982982
>>23983221
Honestly?
The most damning part of this is that Saban would have still kept Power Rangers running but only the same way Harmony Gold and WEP would try for Robotech and Voltron.
They have ONE IP and that's what they have to stick to by default.
Melissa Flores brought this up in an interview and highlighted that unlike Saban, Hasbro has actual options.
They have more profitable IPs they have more control over with less legal fuckery.
Goldner is dead and his action to buy Power Rangers also led to the company buying the entirety of Saban's entertainment catalog just for it.
It's been almost a decade since Hasbro bought Power Rangers and it still doesn't feel like an IP that *fits* with Hasbro's catalog
There hasn't been a Transformers crossover or collaboration outside of a tabletop game expansion with G.I. Joe (though oddly the Equines got a figure as part of a wave dedicated to crossovers)
Now I know it's not how it works and Hasbro isn't pulling the strings or making all the decisions and there's already legal blockage but the Energon Universe added M.A.S.K., Rom, and Micronauts
Even if Power Rangers left Boom I don't think Kirkman would go for the license nor would Hasbro push for it
Again not how it works but that to me illustrates the perfect idea of how minor of a thought Power Rangers is to Hasbro

>>23983740
WEP at least is not a dick like Saban and HG are. Since Japan was willing enough to sell them the IP outright they're willing to collab on stuff for Golion and Dairugger.

>>23982455
As a legit PR fans I want it to stay dead.
The constant attempts to revive MMPR over and over has gotten ridiculous.
Plus with the current trends and atmosphere of the entertainment industry it's just going to be the biggest pile of faggy dog shit they could possibly create.
It's bad enough the main line series was ended on such an awful note.
They're obsessed with resurrecting the franchise just so they can abuse it and make it into something it's not.
Hasbro and whoever else is involved needs to cut their loses and either shelve the IP or sell it.

>>23982555
Execs don't pay attention and are stubborn once a plan is in motion.
Since they haven't even gotten to the production stage yet they're going to keep shopping around because bargaining costs maybe a quick lunch or dinner to schmooze and pitch.

>>23983798
At this point they've got nobody to schmooze with. Every potential platform that could release it has turned them down.

>>23983802
They're looking for someone to dump production duties on
You'd be surprised how many production studios are out there and will take them up on their offer.
Not sure why they thought they could or should go straight to the biggest studios who own streaming platforms instead of finding a production company then partnering with someone to stream their show.
Maybe it's some kind of hubris or over confidence that Power Rangers is worth some kind of top dollar production deal.
Which its not. The heart and soul of Power Rangers is being not high budget Marvel slop and practical effects.
imo throwing too much money at it would lead to something with the name but not the substance.

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LMFAO What?

>>23983196
>>23983205
Also the movie cheaply killed off a large portion of the cast to make room for the new characters. The TF movie was unusual in how cynically it treated the cast replacement and the more I hear about it the more I'm convinced it harmed the industry

>>23983813
The thing is they want it to be a YA Netflix style binge show, they don't want to do it like old toku style. They've been clear on that.

>>23983815
Saban's not gonna like that.

>>23983820
Too bad he already sold it lmao

>>23983629
More than likely they just didn't have the budget or time to film the robot fight in the special. Reunion specials almost never have robot fights, to the point where Dekaranger 20th doing so was a surprise. Or maybe they realized when bringing the suit back out that it was in better shape than they thought it was but already didn't have a robot fight in the script.

>>23983815
I'm surprised Hasbro didn't tell Damon to fuck off since they have the IP and can sue for ripping them off

>>23983824
There's way too much prior art for that to stick unless they're really, really blatantly ripping it off directly. The basic premise isn't defensible in a court of law.

>>23983829
That didn't stop Saban

>>23982455
On the one hand, I'm glad we managed to stave off another modernized version of the show that will inevitably completely miss the mark. On the other, I'm a little disappointed nobody can figure out how to make the show work at a time when classic properties are getting rebooted nonstop. Also a little disappointed I won't get to hatewatch it, as much as I'd rather see the franchise handled with actual care.

>>23983831
To be fair, as shitty as the Chroma Squad case was, there was a lot more leeway to make a case than trying to claim Disney and Matt Damon tried to rip him off. And if Saban wasn't willing to go after them for Armorsaurs, they certainly aren't going to try here.

>>23983815
Has this Matt Damon movie been reported anywhere else?

>>23983978
Three weeks ago there were mentioned that Matt Damon working with The Daniels (director duo that shared the same first name) in project that was described Breakfast Club meet Inception and time traveling but doesn't mentioned Power Rangers. But someone from Insiders recently heard that Matt Damon's project have Power Rangers elements and possibly reason of why Disney cancelled it
>From what I hear, it’s basically a Power Rangers movie… without the name. It follows a young cast in color-coded costumes who team up to fight kaiju with the help of a superhero-esque character played by Damon, who has a Jarvis-like AI assistant played (not just voiced) by Oh. The wholly original movie has no official connection to Power Rangers, but I’m told it’s a pretty clear influence and that comparisons will definitely be made.
https://www.theinsneider.com/p/xmen-cast-christopher-abbott-adam-driver-suzy-bemba-rumor-glen-powell-gaston-beauty-beast-preque

>>23983985
My guess is that Disney cancelled Power Rangers probably because they are in still early stage and still no casting unlike the Damon's project. They taking it too long without moving on to the next stage of production and Disney heard about Damon's next film, they don't want to compete it

>>23983829
Frankly I think you could, and in certain contexts you could still win. But it's too risky for businesses to even attempt since if they don't win, they're putting their most valuable asset (the trademark) on the line. Also trademark cases are way harder to win in general, since so much of it is based on personal interpretation.
This is true even in Japan where the IP holders' rights are actually respected, it's why Pokemon didn't sue Palworld over the blatant monster design ripoffs since the intended business goal was just to slow down the company and if they lost on monster design then suddenly companies have a free license to bootleg Pokemon merch ad astra, whereas the suit that Pokemon actually raised is placing up for bets something that ultimately isn't that important to the company (the code of secondary mechanics in a spinoff game).
US IP law is retardedly lax (like you can literally just use trademarked designs, music, names, etc. in a project and say 'uh, it's a parody' and that's actually a defense that works in US courts) so it's basically impossible to win a trademark suit unless it's against someone who is extremely small like the Chroma Squad guys where they may not have a legal team and certainly aren't equipped to eat the cost of litigation so they'll just acquiesce. Matt Damon and whoever his film crew are would have the ability to defend themselves.

IP stuff can get very complicated but in essence Hasbro suing someone like Matt Damon over a Power Rangers inspired project would largely be a lawsuit that would risk hurting the Power Rangers brand more than helping regardless on if they win or lose (obviously losing would hurt it more), and they'd be unlikely to win.

>>23983989
>Inb4 Matt reveals it was reworked from a draft for an actual PR reboot movie and he was forced to remove the connections because Hasbro said no

>>23984029
>it's why Pokemon didn't sue Palworld over the blatant monster design ripoffs

They did. It was mostly because they were pissed Palworld was better received but there is an ongoing lawsuit with them. And yes they were warning it could bite them in the ass

>>23984125
>They did. It was mostly because they were pissed Palworld was better received but there is an ongoing lawsuit with them. And yes they were warning it could bite them in the ass

Read that post fully. They sued but it was over patents of gameplay mechanics, they didn't try to sue them over the designs.

Just animate it, animation is cheaper now than modern toku, when you account for monster suits, ranger suits, props etc. all can be drawn instead.

>>23984238
The whole appeal of toku is that it’s live action.

>>23984242
Toku is not an appeal in the western market. Except when its backed by Marvel money. It was a fad that everyone stopped doing tv wise after the 90’s. All the PR imitators left. PR was the only thing tv kids wise after the 2000’s it was just a persistent gimmick. You retards don’t understand that its a toy franchise first. In order to sell toys cheap animation is easier. Turtles proved this for 20 years.
Transformers proves it still today. It was a powerhouse even before live action.

>>23984249
It just becomes your average animated slop and part of PR’s identity is that it’s live action. You miss the point if you go animated. Hasbro would’ve done that years ago.

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>>23984242
Miraculous Ladybug could easily be a toku show(i mean it's structured like one) but it's cartoon and a successful one at that
which is why Saban tried to get the same people to make an animated project that never materialized

>>23984249
Funny how Saban actually did their own Turtles show and everyone hated it.

>>23984249
You're the retard who doesn't understand Power Rangers doesn't need to exist as a brand because Hasbro owns every other cheap toy franchise. And even then Cocks barely wants to do anything with them in addition to kids not getting into toys past their early years thanks to digital media and video games.

>>23984242
>>23984254
Uh thats a fucking grandpa take, miniforce is just furry CG PR and hits like crack in South Korea
>>23984280
Because the Toku fad was over, that shit was during In Space. The well dried specially since In Space was supposed to be the last show but it worked its ass off.

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>apparently (finally) coming out at the end of the month
What do you want to bet it'll get quietly pushed back AGAIN?

>>23984337
>tfw you'll never see the suit in front of a sold out Wembley stadium.

>>23984249
They don't make cheap animation anymore in the west though. That's the problem. They can't do cheap sweatshop animated stuff thrown out in 5 months anymore with questionable animation that nobody can notice with their CRtvs anyway, everything's gotta go through the Calarts pipeline of taking 3 years to make something that will look good on HD streaming services. That's what killed the Animaniacs and Tiny Toons reboot amongst other things.

>>23984279

Miraculous Ladybug also has a horrible production pipeline that's constantly delayed to the point where the last season took almost 2 years airing start to finish with months long hiatus's after only an episode or two because they kept delaying release from what they told the networks last minute because they weren't done on time

>>23984282
>Power Rangers doesn't need to exist as a brand because Hasbro owns every other cheap toy franchise

No but Hasbro paid alot for it so if they just shelve the brand then they lost money on that deal and none of the suits will stand for that.

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YO WHAT IS THE DEALIO FELLOW TEENAGERS WITH HELLA ATTITUDE

>>23984545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYriKbvrSvg

>>23984429
Compared to the cost of wardrobe and costumes alone? Animation is cheaper. I don’t think anyone understands how expensive set filming for toku has gotten.

>>23984575
The original point is that Disney claimed Power rangers was too expensive. Which anons said was total BS since Disney drops hundreds of millions of dollars on each season of their Disney streaming shows.

>>23984435
Only ONE guy wanted it to begin with and he's six feet under now

>>23984337
It still baffles me how they did literally everything they possibly could do to kill the interest of the one demographic who would've actually wanted to see this

>>23984595
Yeah but they already paid for it by then

>>23984575
>I don’t think anyone understands how expensive set filming for toku has gotten.

I don't think anyone understands just how expensive and how much of a pain the western animation industry has become either. It's one thing for Toei in Japan to want to shift entirely to animation because they still have the cheap sweatshop anime pipeline where people work themselves to death animating 20 hours a day to get stuff out in a few months. Hasbro doesn't have access to that. They don't outsource western animation to Asian studios anymore. Hasbro's option is to pay alot of money for the western animation industry to pump out 9-10 episodes in 3 to 4 years, or pay alot of money to film live action and get a full season of episodes significantly faster. Either way they're paying money.

>>23984643
Yeah and they've settled on just licensing it (and other Saban IPs) to companies like Playmates and use Power Rangers for filler in their new cable channel
It's the adopted child now treated as an unwanted outcast who can still somehow perform a bare minimum to be kept unless Toei wants to buy it to have full ownership of Sentai's distribution rights

>>23984661
toei getting full international rights really is the only positive thing that can happen to either PR or sentai at this point. despite the tendencay toward ip hoarding among corpos they have to open to it after like a 4th failed reboot. and how they all failed for the same reason of their expect their partner to bear the entire cost.

>>23984578
>Which anons said was total BS since Disney drops hundreds of millions of dollars on each season of their Disney streaming shows.

Which is such a ridiculous claim, given a good chunk of money goes towards the actor's salaries more than anything else.

>>23984725
>good chunk of money goes towards the actor's salaries more than anything else.
You don't think Sentai actors are paid a huge chunk of the production budget?

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>Just dubbed the Sentai show lmao

>>23984725
What's your point? Same thing happens on Japanese production. Executives and Actors take most of the budget for their salaries. The actual production staff are left with peanuts.

>>23982639
>For all of Christopher Nolan's Batman movies used local martial artists from local martial arts clubs to play thugs for Batman to fight on screen
Nolan Batman's action scenes especially hand to hand combat is it's weakest aspects.

>>23984728
Are unions a thing in Japan? I don't think it's a thing for voice actors at least.

>>23985140
>Are unions a thing in Japan?
Yes and no.They exist but they operate differently compared to Western worker unions, and aren't as confrontational. Their structure is also different. Most Japanese unions are company based.

For example, normally in the West it's:
>I'm a mechanic. Therefore I'm a apart of my local mechanics union.

In Japan it's:
>I'm a mechanic. I work at Toyota. Therefore I'm a apart of the Toyota mechanics union. If I ever quit Toyota, then I have to leave the union and join a new union at my new job.

The Japanese company unions almost never threaten to strike. It's extremely rare. More often they work together with the company to have more of a cooperative relationship. The exact opposite of the West where Unions fight management and threaten to strike regularly unless they get a new contract.

The Japanese anime and entertainment industry are notoriously weak when it comes to unions. Very few anime and entertainment unions exist. 75% of workers in those industry are freelancers and contractors.

They aren't employees of the company. So no company unions exist for them. For example, someone like Tomino would only be hired to work on specific Gundam project. When his contract is up, Tomino leaves. There's no union for him to rely on.

>>23984795
nolan hasn't gotten any better. the odyssey's final fight is embarrassing.

>>23983730
Mecha segments in Sentai have already been shifting away from practical effects, props and choreography in favor of flashy but low effort CG to deal with rising costs. In another 10 years, the trade knowledge will go the way of cell drawn animation.

>>23985208
The CGI apparently costs a lot in spite of looking so shoddy.

>>23985265
It does but the problem with extensive CG is time more than anything. They don't have months of post production to get it just right like Hollywood films do the shoot to broadcast timeline is much shorter for Japanese tv

>>23984728
They are not. Toku actors are notoriously paid very little since most of them are just starting out

>>23984596
JDF has been dead for four years. The window has long passed.

>>23984728
Sentai actors are known for being paid like crap except for maybe the mentor character who's played by a veteran actor. Disney meanwhile usually uses highly paid A listers in all of their projects who take most of the budget.

If Super Sentai returns, I hope Toei is in full control of the international rights.

>>23985434
That just means they continue to do nothing with it, they don’t try to market their other Toku shows in the US despite having full rights.

>>23985452
Don't care. I just want Fagsbro to burn and Yidban to rot in hell.

>>23983060
these are so fucking sexy. I've never watched sentai but i wanna watch this and that lupinranger one

>>23985452
amazon pretty heavily shills kamen rider since they are tied to Shin, Black Sun and Amazons.

also asia is a more significant market than the US when it comes to international toku annyway.

>>23985452
Japan (and East/Southeast Asia) is a more important market than the US when it comes to toku.

>>23982455
Wasn’t it always live action?

>>23985370
>Sentai actors are known for being paid like crap except for maybe the mentor character who's played by a veteran actor.
Lol. That's because, unlike the West, all the money goes to Toei Executives. They pay themselves millions from the budget. Then the Executives tell Japanese actors they are "lucky" to be part of the TV show and should consider it an 'honor'. That if they suck it up and suffer, then it will lead to more acting opportunities in the future. That this TV show will "launch their career".

What a joke! Lmao.jpg

Guess it's time for the vapid jingoism

>>23984728
>>23984771
The point is that so many of their shows focus on star power and do everything in their power to minimize anything more budget intensive than two characters bantering in a room.

>>23985724
The point is that Disney can afford it. Disney saying Power Rangers is too expensive makes Disney look like idiots.

Just sell it back to Toei and get their money back. Or can Toei just wait it out to automatically get it back?

>>23985743
No the contract stupidly signed by Toei in the 90s effectively says the PR IP holder has it forever so long as they pay Toei the license fee every time renewal comes up. Toei can't refuse, if the IP holder throws the money at them and says they're keeping it going then Toei has to take it and allow them. The only way Toei gets it back is

1. Hasbro for whatever reason chooses not to pay the license fee and lets the rights revert to Toei, which is possible but unlikely unless they're really fucking broke the next time renewal comes up. I think it's every 15 years which means they're not up for renewal again until 2033.

2. Hasbro offers to sell in back to Toei because they need the sale more than they need a useless IP. Possible but given Toei killed Sentai because of profit issues they might not want or be able to afford it back.

3. Toei gets Hasbro to renegotiate the contract to make Sentai a separate IP from PR and give them control of their Sentai stuff while Hasbro can still hock PR around. People think this might happen in a few years if Hasbro continually fails to get people to fund a new PR and wants to go back to Sentai footage, which at this point would require them to give Toei a big incentive to restart the brand on their end.

>>23985769
Toei was paid over a billion dollars. They were happy to take the money. Stop your whining.

>>23985772
Silence PRfag. I will forever resent that unworthy plebs like you were ever allowed to view glorious Sentai footage.

>>23985769
>which at this point would require them to give Toei a big incentive to restart the brand on their end.
Shift toy production from Bandai to Takara/Hasbro
They have far better experience with articulation and detail than Bandai's bricks

>>23983633
>Syber Squad had no excuse though
Well to be fair the entire point of the 90's American toku adaptions was "How can I make a tv show with lots of special effects without having to actually pay any money for special effects?" Filming your own fight scenes is going against the entire reason you bought the Japanese footage in the first place.

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At this point, Hasbro might as well using A.I. slop to make the series

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>>23985881
I feel like zoomers don't understand their own slang and just say random verbs to come across to each other as hip. They use cook in both a negative and positive context and it reads like
>Yeah, this really sucks.
as well as
>I really sucked that one.
and doesn't come out right.

>>23985631
As in it would have been an original show with nothing taken from Sentai.

>>23985881
They should awkwardly adapt the oldass footage from the older Sentai before Zyuranger and make toys for them.