https://youtu.be/vh6wwh6SxN8
I am SO ready for Femchirico.
>>23989609Seems the protag is "gender ambigius" in the translation, the heck does that man lel
Chirico's long lost sister, Chirica
>>23989613Actually is the same Chirico, don't ask question.
>>23989611>artificial human with no genitals>Normal human dehumanised to the point where she is no longer a woman>Multiple peoples memories uploaded into a single body>Hermaphrodite>Localisation fuckupPick 1
>>23989611There is no ambiguity in the word witch.
>>23989618You forgot>tomboy that talks with boku
>Gilgamesh and Balalant divide the Astragius Galaxy. These two forces have been engagein a war for nearly 100 years, the cause of which remains unclear. In the final stages of the "Hundred Years' War," a female officer, Maki Stauffenberg, is assigned to a front-line base on Valkyria II, the second planet in the Asgard star system. She has secretly been given the task of investigating Ash Vamps, a soldier known as the "Witch" for being the only one to survive even the most brutal operations in a punitive unit composed of ragtag soldiers. The truth of the battlefield can only be known on the battlefield. Maki decides to participate as an AT (Armored Trooper) pilot in a forced landing operation into enemy lines ordered by Ash's unit. In an operation that seems impossible to survive, the battle situation is heading towards despair by the moment. As Maki pursues Ash amidst the flames of war, she gradually approaches the truth hidden within her.Did we know before it was taking place during the 100 year war? Guess it could've been heavily assumed but it taking part during the tail end of it is interesting. Hopefully they don't do some retcon fuckery with whatever these characters do leading directly into Chirico's story.
>>23989611>>23989618>gender ambiguous>Obvious tit bump and slight hipsHmm.
New Scopedoggydog
>>23989607Didn't expect them to literally just do femme-Chirico and femme-Rochina
>>23989620I count that as the last one
>>23989629>Mindbreaking a blond office worked so hard she devotes her life to stalking you even when she's a washed up hagFem-Rochina sounds pretty hot
>>23989630Fair enough.
>>23989623>Its a perfect soldier story againI wonder how it will differentiate itself from Chirico's stories with Fyana Ypsilon and Titania (and palisen files)
The non-mecha scenes do look very much like Oshii's previous IG projects. I appreciate him going all out on making something cinematic again, wonder if he got the whole team back together like Okiura.
I wonder if this will get any sort of western release at all. Does sunrise think anyone in the west gives a fuck about this series?
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more like Trannyco am I right Wisemanbros
Grade the aesthetics.
>>23989623What if VOTOMS is dabbling in Yuri?
>>23989654Mediocre
The animation legitimately looks great which you couldn't say for Votoms projects in decades. At least with Oshii directing, it'll look good
>>23989626Tiny head
>>23989656I don't normally like it but I but it they're going to have these two angry military women covered in sweat and mud wrestle eachother I'll let it slide
>>23989654Superb.
>>23989653Maybe i have the brain fried but unironically i thougt it looks like a trans chiroco
>>23989654mid. Talldogs are kinda cool minus that stupid reverse arm gimmick
>>23989654It looks a lot better in anime form than in this
(reposting from /a/)Ok I'm gonna count the Mamoru Oshii gimmicks as they show upfisheye lenskubrick staremysterious figure you gotta track downdutiful protagonist getting obsessed by mysterious figurestaring at screenspeople engrossed in their private activities instead of socializingguy with eyes hiddenaircraftdramatic rush into the belly of the beastOkay looks like it's gonna be the standard Oshii fare.Protagonist is gonna become morbidly obsessed with blue hair girl, she's gonna think she can do the same shit, she's gonna bite off more than she can chew, and she's gonna end up betraying or leaving something important behind in the process. She might even get herself killed. The higher-ups will definitely be up to some bullshit and get themselves tangled up in a plot. Blue hair will turn out to be deceitful or wrong in some way.The real question is: will it end with a shot of an island or with a shot of a creepy girl staring at you?Maybe something else?I dunno I haven't seen anything he's done since like 2006 so he might have some new tricks up his sleeve.>>23989609She isn't Femchirico, she's a bird.
>>23989679>DUDE THERE'S A GUY WITH BOOTS THAT'S AN OSHII STAPLERfuck off retard
>>23989626he fat
All the Japanese people are like " wow Oshii is finally making real entertainment now "
>>23989683How many of his films have you seen?
>>23989607>>23989648>genderswapped chirico and rochina
>>23989691if you're expecting her to be similar to Chirico in anything but appearance, you're in for a rough time.
This actually looks good with a stacked staff. I thought Oshii was washed
>>23989693Why? Has he been stepping outside of his comfort zone lately?
>>23989693Never bet against Mamoru.
>>23989613LA HERMANA(o LA PRIMA)
>>23989693He is, don't let the cultists know though
>>23989698More like he hasn't done anything anime related in 20 years besides direct Vlad Love and write a couple scripts for Hikari no Ou
Reddo sholdah
>>23989704>he hasn't done anything anime related except when he did
>>23989709Yeah that isn't anything compared to when he was prolific in the 80s and 90s
>>23989693He finally stopped playing fallout 4
>>23989711No shit, which prolific 80s/90s director is still pulling out the numbers they used to back then?
>>23989701>still trooning out about oshii 20 years later
>>23989613Chirica Yuumura
>>23989718she's not gonna act anything like chirico, she's gonna be a piece of shit
>>23989719So... Uoodo arc Chirico?
>>23989729 right now based on the synopsis, the most likely outcome is that "grey witch" is a persona that the unit bestows upon one girl after another. That's why she's got such distinctive fashion choices, so you can slap those onto any girl and they'll all look similar enough.The "piece of shit" part is most likely gonna come from the fact that she gave up on her original unit in order to join the Ash Vamps or something like that. But it could be even worse like she's gonna let her squadmates die on purpose to keep the charade running.That's my prediction right now, it's the Oshii thing to do.
>>23989679>>23989683I missed one actually:Pictures of dogs
I was really worried this would be full 3D CG, glad the character animation is all in 2D. So all of the major franchise mecha shows that have come out recently or will be coming out have been:>GQUx>Patlabor EZY>Gundam RG>Witch from Mercury>GITSI think this new Votoms looks like the best or close to the best, it looks as good as the new GITS to me. The new Patlabor really disappointed me visually, why didn't IG and Sunrise handle it? Fucking JC staff is pretty disappointing
>>23989741the character animation does have the same faux-CG look as Innocence though, which made perfect sense in Innocence where everybody was supposed to look fake, but here it doesn't seem quite as justified yet.
>>23989744It doesn't remind me of the Innocence look at all, imo it reminds me of Hathaway
>>23989741New Macross soon™
>>23989747That was announced what 4 years ago? Something must've gone wrong. And I remember some time around 2018 or so they said they would work on a new Macross before shelving that for the Delta movies.
>>23989764I mean the casting started last year.
>>23989764there were rumors but nothing official until the singing recruitment last year so it hasn't actually been very long
>>23989611>>23989618I suspect that's a blind idiot translation where 'androgynous' is probably what they were looking for.
>>23989626>gun painted to be the same color as the robotNo, I do not like thisNormally I like it when things are more toyetic, but not when it comes to Scopedogs
>>23989738If I don't see at least one basset hound I'm refunding my ticket.
we all agree the kummen arc is one of the greatest arcs in all of mecha, right?
>>23989838No
>>23989654 >nuGITS >okawara mostly draws the fuchikoma by hand >nuVOTOMS >scopedog is explicitly traced grim?
>>23989838it's above Sunsa but not above the others
>>23989813Baasicaally how all western discussion of Rita Kaniska went. When there are no debates for her in japan. they took gender neutral which was understood by japs to mean androgynous and interpreted it as meaning some third gender thing.
>>23989843>anon>has brain damage
>>23989838Fuck off vedditor.
>>23989849Damn you weren't kidding.
>>23989854Forgot pic.
Oshii's movie-style works are always super boring but he at least hires some of the best designers in the game so it at least looks really cool, so I'm interested to see if this manages with these lanky kong ugly retard scopedogs.
>>23989856 the red ATs kinda looked nice, at least
>>23989626Not thick enough.
Will this come to western theaters or will I just have to wait for someone to upload?
>>23989626I could almost add it to this image to make fun of how fucked the proportions are
>>23989917 eh fixing it wouldn't be so bad, most of it is just the two piece waist throwing the rest if the proportions off
will we get hot girl versions of the gross dorito chin twins then too
>>23989943 god i hope not those fuckers are terrible give me a girl quentman
>>23989813Definitely the case here. She looks more female than most "androgynous" examples. Still, if those two are the MCs, I'd expect Maki would switch sides and be the final boss somehow. We know VOTOMS is all about how a foot soldier could become menacing.
All these years to get another rehash of the very same Chirico-Rochina story, a la Gundam, again and again. Sunrise morons must quit.
>>23989961Signs point to a rehash of Oshii's stories, actually
>>23989955CorrectAnd Oshii's filmography is about how that footsoldier can become delulu and fuck everyone over in pursuit of some dumb obsession of his, so that tracks with your predictions too.
>>23989966Hey, make the girls straight for once. Not everything has to dip extremely hard to yuri for it to sell. Granbelm and G-Witch had their time to shine in the Reiwa era, let a true female MC mecha story do its work without it.
>>23989708>Reddo sholdah
Sumire Uesaka, who'll be in this anime, claimed to have been a VOTOMS fan per this Tweet:https://x.com/uesaka_official/status/2090637599421653042
>>23989982Her absolute favorite anime.
>>23989985Give it time. I would somehow imagine Eri Yukimura as a Dragonar fan next year, and we will grill her as much as possible because it might feel forced.
>>23989985I was surprised that I rushed to share that here (in both this thread and the current General Seiyuu Thread in /jp/).
>>23989987Also, here are Sawashiro and Ando's respective comments on being in this VOTOMS work. Left is Sawashiro's and right is Ando's. As you can see, top are the original Japanese and bottom is Google Translate English (I apologize for using Google Translate; if anyone can do better, please share). Sources:https://x.com/votoms_gh/status/2090635007614136706https://x.com/votoms_gh/status/2090635249814237318
>>23989987>>23989988>>23989986>Eri Yukimura as a Dragonar fan next yearHate to go off-topic, but what does Yukimura have to do with Dragonar?
>>23989989Maybe a bit of a joke at some point because, while there's no Sunrise Robot Laboratory Side-L/R series this year, there might be one next year for Metal Armor Dragonar, which will celebrate its 40th anniversary by then, and we might hear more Idolmaster song covers for that show, especially Yume-iro Chaser.
>>23989944muscle mommy shako then
>>23989991What does that have to do with Eri Yukimura?
>>23989997Fuyuko Mayuzumi. If we're getting another Robot Laboratory video, we might get an IDOLM@STER group to sing for the Side-R video, and Straylight seems to be the most perfect group for this.
>>23989980Oh the protag might very well be straight, but if she is, she'll most likely abandon her husband
>>23989999I see. Thanks.
>>23990000I mean, come on. Do you see a honest girl with that personality of hers? She can be a slut all she wants, but she's just a Chirico with no moral compass and a very chaotic attitude.
>>23990004I'm talking about the blonde, SHE's the protagAnyway NOBODY is gonna be a chirico in this fucking thing, that's the rugpullyou're gonna expect blue hair to be a perfect soldier like chirico or something and it's gonna turn out she just cheated her way out of death every time or that she actually died a bunch of times and it's not the same grey witch as beforeAs a matter of fact, the protag has grey eyes so she'll be the next grey witch. That's what I foresee
>>23990000>>23990007If Maki and Ash aren't going to be romantically involved, that'll be a disappointment, because they could have been VOTOMS' answer to Akito Hyuga x Leila Malcal (Code Geass: Akito the Exiled).
>>23990009it's not gonna be actual romance it's gonna be weird creepy obsession with lesbo undertones. You know "I wanna wear you like a skinsuit" type shit
>>23989626God damn it. They miss the entire aesthetic appeal of Scopedog's proportions. This movie is going to suck.
>>23989611>protag is "gender ambigius"THE POLITICAL PROPAGANDA AND SOCIAL ENGINEERINGWILL CONTINUEUNTIL MORALE IMPROVES
>>23989961This is Oshii. I don't know how anyone of you are just expecting a rehash of old Votoms stories based on the main characters looking somewhat similar and the perfect soldier concept existing
>>23990024retard
>people expecting lesbian yuri shit for some reason>androgyny bullshit whateverOshii's work is often simultaneously very simple and complex. Sometimes shit is just about things being cool like Ash looking like fem Chirico a bit and Oshii referencing stuff from his directorial past like Avalon and Kerberos Panzer Saga. Mix in this with him saying he's taking this project as a very serious war story, people are just assuming very retarded things with very little basis
>>23990031wait she's called Ash?Yeah she's gonna betray her pals again and everyone expecting femChirico will be like :O
Big Sky Crawlers vibes off the trailer, and that was extremely underrated Oshii fare.Also the thread on /a didn't even last the night, truly few people outside of Japan even care for this series. Western cinema release probably never ever
>>23990340/a/ is normalfag central
>>23990340They can't shitpost about it like they can with Ghost in the Shell.
>>23990400They can't shitposting about Gits either.
>>23990413oh they have beenon this very board as well
>>23990400They can, it's just that /a/ is severely uninformed about mecha, let alone Votoms.
>>23990413Nigga go to any gits thread.
>>23989607Neat. Just finished the TV series a few months ago and enjoyed it a lot and slowly making my way through the OVAs hopefully I'm able to finish before the release.
>>23989611ugly id imagine
>>23990471Not really any worse off than this place bbqh
>>23990471They can't since the most they're willing to do is watch whatever new Gundam show is on.
>>23990017Don't see anything wrong with it.
>>23989626Giaradog
>>23990768I think you might need your eyes checked
This is going to flop so fucking hard and then Bandai is going to go "We gave you a new movie why don't you like it?" Why do they gotta force female protags into everything? Mech designs are okay and I've accepted the fate of everything being 3DCG trash, but the "hey we want the female audience" shit is played the fuck out. Women don't fucking care about mecha, and even the tiny minority of them that claim they do do give two fucks about a series like Votoms. If they want female protags so fuckkng badly give us a new Gunbuster or Goddaner.
>>23990894>>23990896Go back secondary.
>>23990898Been here since 2007, I've seen more mecha than you can probably name. YOU go back faggot.
>>23990899Shut the door on your way back.
>>23990908Where's our female super robot pilot, Sunrise?
>>23990911All robots are super.
>>23990915Scopedog can totally shoot lasers and fly with its super space McGuffin.
>>23989679bird?
>>23989626I don't know how I feel about these top loader guns
>>23990942Yeah bird as in merciless seductive predator, enactor of divine terror, god's law as opposed to human justiceIt's an Oshii thing
By the way, the reason why Ash (the fem Chirico) has that hairstyle is literally because Oshii has a fetish for bowl cuts on women lol
>>23990908>From Left to Right: Success, fail, fail, ????
>>23991197>Success
>>23991236Bigly.
A bunch of old Akira assistants are working on this
>>23990031Saw this post on by some Turkish faggot, it really wouldn't be suprising to me if Oshii pulled out all the stops in putting his fetishes and references to his old work, while also evoking fem Chirico Votoms, and also being his first opportunity to do a serious war story like he claims
>>23989671The hair color and vest made me think Femchirico at first for a second too.
>>23990894This is Bandai giving a franchise to a big name director like Oshii. Any decision for a female protagonist and such was 100% from him, not some kind of Bandai mandate.
>>23989626Eh, I don't like it. The proportions are wrong from how Scopedogs usually are an giving it a realistic rifle instead of the usual one just looks off
Just a quick edit, but deleting most of the waist extension makes the design look way better. Feel free to photoshop the front armor flaps back in or fix up the arms if you're good at that kinda stuff
Happy 69th birthday, Goda Hozumi.
>>23991579>if Oshii pulled out all the stops in putting his fetishes and references to his old workShoehorning a billion references to his older works into every project is Oshii's default storytelling method. And the references aren't just for show, many of his characters behave the same. You could even say he uses source material as window dressing, not the other way around.So the "OMG SHE'S JUST LIKE CHIRICO :DDDD" crowd are gonna have a rough go, there, buddy.I mean unless Oshii decides to switch it up a bit and tries to stay closer to the source material. lol lmao
>>23991988Given that he's actually a huge Votoms fan and has said that this was his opportunity to make a serious war story for the first time, I wouldn't be surprised if these weren't just references to his old work but I don't think the source material will just be used as window dressing
>>23991998Yeah but what Oshii calls a "serious war story" is a bit ambiguous given his track record. Also, Perfect Soldiers are one of the main things that separate VOTOMS from what you'd call a "serious war story"So even if he takes VOTOMS seriously, I still don't see why he'd make Ash similar to Chirico except as a setup to a rugpull.
>>23991998 >he's actually a huge Votoms fan where did he say this?
>>23992008Do people want Ash to be similar to Chirico?>>23992009It was his first comments when the project was announced>最初のボトムズの大ファンでした。いつかボトムズみたいなものをやってみたいという、私の憧れの作品。ボトムズに立喰い蕎麦を出したりするんじゃないかと疑っている人もいるかもしれませんが、真面目にやってます。真面目に戦争アクションを作っています。>I was a huge fan of VOTOMS from the very beginning. It’s a work that I’ve always admired and dreamed of someday doing something like. There may be some people who suspect that I’m going to put things like standing soba shops into VOTOMS, but I’m taking it seriously. I’m seriously making a war action story.
>>23992022>Do people want Ash to be similar to Chirico?dunno if they want to but they sure seem to be expecting just that
>>23992022>"There may be some people who suspect that I’m going to put things like standing soba shops into VOTOMS">proceeds to name the two protags after protags from his previous workssee he's only talking about his goofy gimmicks like the soba stands and the manzai comedy bits and the random tokusatsu fights and beer advertisements
>>23992027People don't know how to categorize Oshii's gimmicks whether they come in the form of references, character window dressing, directorial flourishes, etc. Like does Oshii naming the protags off of previous works means they're going to be similar? Nobody knows so far now I think these are just references.
>>23992036we'll just have to see!
>>23992022 i always thought origins of ambition played too much like an oshii movie, but maybe it's the other way around? there's even an mg-42.
>>23992046in what ways?
>>23989654I ain't feeling it.
>>23989654S'aight
>>23990998Suddenly a lot of things from his films make more sense
>>23996273Like what?
>>23996278Like the fact that every character associated with birds happens to be manipulative, aloof, self-righteous, fanatical and generally villainous. Even the more sympathetic ones like Tsuge.
>>23996414How is Tsuge associated with birds?
>>23996430grey hairuses aerial warfare to enact his plans (aircrafts also mean bird)lives on an island that's full of birds.Not just any birds mind you, seagulls. Predatory birds. Usually the case with Oshii.
>>23996434I kneel.
>>23996451So it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Ash will be like that too.But to what extent exactly ? That's the surprise.
>>23991197How was Gqux not a success? Don't say "because I didn't like it" because that has nothing to do with how much money it made.
>>23991197>bitch from mercury>success
>>23991628Glad i'm not the only one who noticed the similarities.
