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== STOLEN GROUPBUILD ==Build a Mecha or vehicle built by one faction, but change its aesthetics and style to its rival faction! Examples include but are not limited to>Canon examples of mechs being stolen and used by another group (ie: Casval's Gundam, Feddie Zakus, Ashura Mazinger, etc)>Designs intended for one faction that were repurposed into a design for another faction (ie: Gerbera Tetra)>What-if scenarios (ie: A Titans color Zeta Gundam)>Stylistic interpretation (ie: What would a EFF version of the Z'gok look like?)When it comes to your build, really make it clear that your mecha is being used by the other side!START: 8/16/26END: 11/15/26
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Here's the thing about the MGEX Mighty Strike Freedom:1. It was going to get an MG anyways. Since it's fucking Seed, Bandai are going to milk it for all it's worth, especially before too much time passes after the movie. Despite its massive cost, it's going to sell like hotcakes and Bandai would have been fucking stupid not to pounce on the opportunity.2. It being an MGEX just makes sense. Not only can they recycle most of the MGEX Strike Freedom, but if it had been a regular MG people would have complained that it was a downgrade from the MGEX, and that Bandai were forcing people to buy both and kitbash them so that they can have the "best" version of the Mighty Strike Freedom.3. Stop thinking of MGEX as its own line, and think of it as a special Revive edition (same also applies to PGU). There are nowhere near enough designs to actually make MGEX its own line, they're just MGs with all the possible bells and whistles. Unicorn was still a mess even after the OVA version fixed the abortion that was the Ver. Ka, and MGEX Strike Freedom was effectively a 2.0 of the old 2006 kit.The only real question is when we're going to get MG Infinite Justice Type II and MG Destiny Spec II, since their predecessor kits are quite long in the tooth (MG Destiny is a 2007 kit, and MG Infinite Justice is a 2008 kit). Hell, they might be MGEXes as well, at the very least Destiny has enough gimmicks to potentially warrant one, maybe even a P-Bandai Zeus Silhouette. Bandai sure as hell aren't going to pass up that opportunity.
>>23996081tldr please consoom goyim no ask question
>>23996085I never said I liked it (I don't) or that I was going to buy it (I won't). I'm just saying that from Bandai's perspective, it made absolutely perfect sense to release a retail MGEX Mighty Strike Freedom. They're definitely going to make a shitload of money from this because 98% of Southeast Asia gobbles up Seed, and unlike the PGU Nu it's still within the realm of affordability for most consumers. The only real surprise is that it took them two years to come out with this announcement, when they probably could have done it last year or even the same year that the movie came out, given how little new development they needed for it.
>>23996081I was hoping like they could at least also release upgrade parts as like PBandai to turn your MGEX Strike Freedom to Spec-II and/or Mighty Strike like how there is upgrade parts for ZZ ver Ka to Enhanced ZZas for MGEX, there could be like other candidates, like MGEX Penelope/Xi since they need to capitalize on Hathaway's Flash
>>23996091There will probably be Chinese conversion kits for that. Hell, someone might make one for the old 2006 MG, since there are already at least two third-party 1/100 Proud Defenders out in the wild.I don't see Xi getting an MG until after the movies are all out. And even then, it would be both an engineering and budgeting challenge since the existing HGUC Xi already costs a pretty penny and increasing its size by 44% would probably drive it into MGEX pricing even if it were released as a standard MG. It's going to have to be about the size and bulk of the MG The-O, but with actual MG-quality engineering instead of the oversized HG that The-O turned out to be.
>Know I need to save money after quitting job>See Yunque model kit, Metallic colors version, all already in colors I really like>Looks really cool, but my backlog is already getting pretty big and I still haven't finished the RG Hi Nu Gundam, and—>RG-TIER INNER-FRAME ON MAIN BODYI ordered it. Expecting it tomorrow. I am ashamed.
>nips dogpiling on Bandai for not even bothering to do the jewel opening gimmick on the mighty strike forehead despite all the fancy shit and price uphike
Gunpla is a white man's hobby, who cares what nips think?
>>23996091I don't think a Pbandai MGEX Mighty Strike is feasible. It has a handful of new armor parts, especially the new shoulders frame, too. Option set should be some modular and simple, not a scattered component set that ask you to strip naked the base kit.
>>23996107i think what caused the backlash was because Bandai tried to make a spectacle out of it with that whole teaser thing. the reactions would had been more controlled if they just randomly revealed it during a random day. kinda ironic that nips would rather see an MGEX Astray than this.
>>23996107>scattered component set that ask you to strip naked the base kit.Isnt that basically what RG Astraea is?
>>23996105Bandai does
>>23996107Enhanced ZZ ver Ka pbandai parts ask you to disassemble the shoulder, the shield wings, the legs, the knee, the feet, the sabers, the lower stomach sections, just to name a few just to insert the new enhanced parts.that is more haphazard scatterbrained shit than replacing the old spec I parts to spec II parts
>>23996115>disassemble the shoulder, the shield wings, the legs, the knee, the feet, the sabers, the lower stomach sections, just to name a few just to insert the new enhanced parts.I own the base ZZ and honestly it is not that complicated. ZZ's shoulder thingy and armshields are just huge pegs, the feet assembly is just a sliding. You can remove them easily, unlike Mighty Strike Freedom, the armshield is built into the forearm and the most of armor parts are designed to stay in place. The only modular part is the backpack.
They eventually gonna make non-Gundam mobile suits RG kits, r-right?
>>23996123Yes but only if it the suit opposing the main character
>>23996116How do I paint this level of smoothness?
>>23996128a room with good dust and humidity control usually does the trick.
>>23996128Airbrush
>>23996128Have you tried waxing?
>>23996123>still no fucking GoufWhat are they even doing over there
Revive gouf doesn't come with a zaku machine gun nor a holding hand. Lame! I want to have it with a machine gun! What hand would best suit the revive gouf? Gonna have to paint a hand since i cant think of any other kit molded in blue thats compatible with it.
>>23996160well anon I'd suggest you take the hand from the same place you're going to source the zaku ii machine gun it uses
https://x.com/JAZZ_JACK_/status/2092577721314640153bandaisisters...
Thinking about buy second, smaller display case specifically for non-gunpla builds. Most of my stuff is Gunpla but I have some mecha musume and other non-gundam mecha builds. Is wanting to keep them separate Autism?
>No GM Customs available anywhereFuck me
>>23996170>buy GM>customize it>???>profit
>>23996174That will be an extra 100.99, thank you.
>>23996105This general wasn't even a thing until Build Fighters became popular here.
>>23996171gunpla is freedom but I would never ever customize my kits
>>23996102Yunque as in Sheik Mainland? That thing is absolutely not RG tier on the inside
Nips are more upset about how the grey part of 00's face not being angular enough.
>>23996081Counterargument: double the price for just a new backpack and a few other bits on the head and shoulder.Also, regular MG MSF is not happening for at least 10 years or more now.
>>23996197actually, it's never gonna happen now, like how Unicorn 2.0 would never happen too because it's stuck in MGEX hell
>>23996174lacus fig?!ok bamco you got me
Place your bets, who will make RG Ez-8 first, Bandai or Changs?
>>23996196>Nips areone man made a twitter post you fucking faggot god you suck
>>23996203My vote is on Chungus.
>>23996102Only the Nazi mech has a full inner frame. Most of their other kits have partial frames
>>23996208No, Yunque has frame. They have been pushing more complex structure for their releases after Zarov.
What do you guys think of Armored Core?
>>23996216Tank legs are sexy. AC6 is faggy.
>>23996196>minor inconvenience easily solved by a bit plaplate and cement I guess nips are never gonna make it
>>23996208The good guys have the best design as usual.
>>23996222SD is toddler shit so i believe the face is meant to look cute like that.
>>23996227SDs are exclusively for toddlers that can barely put kits together to begin with, and elder statesmen who want to exercise a full host of skills to achieve a good looking final product. You're between the two right now; if you apply yourself, you'll make it someday, anon.
>>23996227I don't think that is the case for MGSD. Granted, Bandai does give a decent model to customize and improve on them, or just go for a straight build. Nothing wrong with either approach.>>23996237I agree. I guess I will pop the Ball Ver. Ka I got the other day and get to work on it. Such a goof ball kit
>>23996227The old SD doesn't have that problem.
>>23996072some groupbuild progress on TB Perfect Gundam. added/ reshaped some armor, rebuilt the collar section to be boxier and made the neck slightly longer.for the torso I still need to bulk up the sides and shoulder area and add the tubing
>>23996239>Ball Ver. KaKit has no business being as good as it is. I only wish there were an Oggo kit like it.
>>23996239Nice try. Not gonna buy that shit>Kids who can barely put kits togetherLiterally none of modern gunpla give challenges to kids. They can just snap and keep the kit as it is.
>>23996184Yea the sheik mainland kit
>>23996250Ex Model Oggo is ine imo. The only problem is the availability.
>>23996220Is the story or gameplay good though? These models look cool as fuck and I bought the spider tank but I know nothing of them
>>23996256>StoryExists to give you a reason to do objectives.>gameplayMost AC games have good gameplay.
>>23996174>partswappingYou'd think they'd incorporate magnets or somesuch for something that costs that much. For an MGEX no less.
>>23996257AC gameplay is just the same thing over and over again with no variety to the task. The mecha customization is fun that's about it.
>>23996196Why do all of the Exia line plamos have green eyes when it's clearly blue on the left anyway?
>>23996268>clearly blue on the left anywayno?it's teal
>>23996203well bandai announced it so if chinks get it out before february they win
>>23996276I don't see any announcement for the Ez-8.
>>23996276>bandai announced it>februaryThat anon was talking about the Ez-8, not the Ground Gundam.
The problem is that the chinese could never make ez8. They'd make some bullshit covered in warts and broken glass and retards would insist it's actually an ez8.
china already made HGEX Ez8 by Kurofune
>>23996284Their RG 7th Gundam doesn't really look that outlandish.The new HG from Bandai looks better though.
>>23996284>retards would insist it's actually an ez8Knockoff, ripoff, creative liberties, covered in chinkshit greeble to hell and back (like the new gundams).. You can cry and screech as much as you want, but it's still obvious what it is at the end of the day. Pic related.
>>23996284>covered in warts and broken glass Correct
>>23996291This is extremely tame for the chinese.
I remember when I thought this thing was a final boss or at least a major villain when I played it through gameshark codes on Battle Assault 2.
>>23996294And it still looks like shit
>>23996294From a design full of smooth surface to that, it is definitely in line with the Chinese mentality.
>>23996299It's still full of smooth surfaces, they threw on a couple of extra pla plate greeble. The arm bewilders me. They removed the hole, made it smooth, and then put a greeble at the top of the forearm.
>>23996216>>23996256True 2023 gotyHas the best story out of nu fromsoft in the last decade. Best ac gameplay but parts pool is really shallow compared to previous gens
>>23996284>The problem is that the chinese could never make ez8.Neither could Yamane these days...
>>23996266I don't know what you expect out of a mecha shooter.
>>23996299I don't mind it for what it is, looks like a modern tank compared to a ye olde tank
>>23996299it's less of an agressive redesign than what happened with the RG Hi Nu
>>23996310It looks like a modern bandai design. Exhibit A revealed yesterday.
>>23996314If this were a chinese design it'd be the most tame design they ever made. It doesn't have the massive tumors all over it the gay fake ez8 has.
>>23996256>storyit has a serviciable story with relatively solid characters which are elevated by the stellar work by the VAs. You can see some ideas have been cut and possibly glued back in some places where they did not belong originally, but there is a start-to-finish clear story to follow.>gameplayvery solid, deserved the award it won back in the day. Compared to old-school AC there is a mechanic taken straight from Sekiro which is OK for the story (for the PvP is debatable) and the aiming system has a (facultative with downsides) lockon system like Souls games.It's a good game overall and possibly the most polished of all AC games, I would reccomand it
>>23996320Bro are you blind and cannot see the shoulder pauldrons that bandai decided is now on chessboard hinges? They added random holes in the knees and calf armor (and colored them black) for no reason. They added a ton of greeble and panel lines on the arms. This is chinkshit.
6000 fucking yen for MGSD
>>23996324Standard RG design changes. It's more tame than anything the chinese have ever produced. This is why you included a photo of the ground gundam instead of a photo of some chinese design with even a hint of restraint.
>>23996328>Standard RG design changesI'm glad that we defend chinkshit now.
>>23996329I noticed you forgot to include a photo of literally any fake chinese gundam that has that much design restraint again.
>>23996333Here you go.
MGEX UnicornMGEX Strike FreedomMGEX Strike Freedom Midnight CoatingMGEX Strike Freedom Mechanical ClearMGEX Strike Freedom Twilight CoatingMGEX Mighty Strike Freedom
>>23996334You forgot to do it again. You mistakenly posted video game tie in merch. It's insane that even you know chinese designs are unable to be defended so you keep trying to deflect.
>>23996337>chinese designs are unable to be defendedI already said that bandai is chinkshit now. Learn to read.
>>23996343But you're doing all of this to defend the chink fake gay ez8.
>>23996333
>>23996344Pointing out the objective reality that the chinkshit Ez-8 is less chinkshit than the toys that bandai announced yesterday is not defending it, it's just stating an objective fact.
>>23996257>>23996266>>23996305>>23996323Thanks. I’m very much interested. Will play
>>23996347MGEX isn't chinkshit it's flipshit. They're different.
>>23996356You're just throwing random /pol/ shit at this point.
>>23996360Filipinos and chinks like different varieties of overdesigned nonsense.
>>23996169A bit yea
>>23996356It's definitely chinese tier. It doesn't matter shit variety of ___shit you call it, it's still getting worse.
>>23996364Flips want their stuff still shaped like a gundam. Chinks want it to not really have a solid shape.
>>23996174BANDAI WON SO FUCKING HARD.
>>23996354Id highly recommend it, especially since you show interest in /m/
Anyone else been watching the japanese channel that just has his custom gunplas molest each other?
I thought the /pol/tards' narrative was that Flips are too poor to even afford Gunplas, let alone an MGEX.
>jp exclusive reprint.I AM TIRED OF THIS JAP FAVORITISM BANDAI.
>>23996373a first year engineer in a mid tier job in America makes more in a day than the average Filipino in a month. What really an eye opener is Japan's engineering salary is only about double the salary of the average Filipino so that puts things into perspective https://youtube.com/shorts/diFQZr-WsgI?is=lRjqerWvTRMDm4Ou
>>23996377Top left is White Ogre or Shin matsunaga? Also the Uma Lightning Gelgoog was just on USA pbandai.
>>23996373They will buy it, they'll just wait for Zhang to bootleg it.
>>23996377WHITTU PIGGU GO HOMEGUNLPA FOR JAPANESE
>>23996379nah I'm just after the zakus. It's both apparently they are doing a special with the uma lighting + gato's zaku and white ogre + shin matsunaga. I'm surprised they didn't include johnny's
>>23996381No Nipon pls. Its the indian that are the problem. Pls dont leave me
>>23996386WTF you're building a fucking owl.
>>23996308This is why mecha should be limited. The momment Yamane got encouraged by cgi he decided to create literal shit.
>>23996160I have so many zaku machineguns you can have mine in exchange for some feddie 100mm machineguns.
>>23996324Not that anon, Chink EZ8 has an annoying thing about Chinese redesign is that they always slap superhero proportion to every robot. RG Ground Gundam, love it or hate it, atleast retain that average joe vibe.
>>23996406Bandai has been doing it for a long time however.
>>23996406I see what you mean. Like someone who works out a lot which causes their posture to look like they never can relax.
>>23996314Ugh, shouldn't the kneepads be bigger since there's a tactical use for it? And the chest muzzle is too small. Fuck is wrong with these jap redesigners?
>>23996411Why would they need to be bigger? That's a lot of steel there already.
>>23996408Both Ground and Ez8 HGs are old enough to avoid that plague. We are still getting stubby non gundam guys like Messer and Gustav Karl so it is not too bad.
SOULful proportionsSOULful design(fuck the og gundam)
>>23996418This is the only good thing Bandai has done in the past 3 years
>>23996335this is unironically am attack on white men specifically. We have a Chinese occupied Bandai and no one is standing up to this
>>23996418The HG looks better. Clean smooth ultilitarian kino.
>>23996406that's the EZ-8 the chinks stole from RockyQ, it's not even a real Chink design
>>23996382yeah these are all on the other PB sites. It's kinda weird, the U.S. had some of these up separately so it didn't even look like they were part of the same release grouping like this how this image is showing them as MSV ace pilots.
>>23996112no for the astraea it's mostly external armor changes. the strike freedom has frame changes too.
>>23996421Why not get this instead then?
>>23996421>those shoulderpadsBLEH
>>23996423RockyQ is Chinese, that's why Bandai haven't get his ass yet. His old nickname used to be " Ji Qu".
>>23996428I have that kit. So many gun accessories and a functional cargo on the back, pretty sweet.
>>23996435The master grade is also really fun. It's old but incredibly solid. Easy to paint too because of how it goes together.
The RG and HG have the same gimmick, but the HG is cheaper and has less herpes.
>>23996437It has been on my mind but but the 1.0 hands bothers me because they suck.
>>23996422me on a saturday night
So am I the only one who isn't happy about this kitThe proportions are completely wrong
>>23996443Really? Looks pretty accurate to me.
>>23996438but can the HG do THIS?...
>>23996443I was too busy raging at the literal scam announced yesterday. The upper torso does look a bit off perhaps?
>>23996448Legs and feet way too smallSkirt armor too thinTorso too long and skinnyIn general the lines are all a little too straight and missing a lot of the slight curves of the original designThey put it through the same "modernized" filter as every other recent kit
>>23996372Blue board, BLUE BOARD!
>>23996440They suck but they work well enough to hold the big gun.>>23996443The safety flags are just awful
>>23996453If they didn't do that people would cry about it not articulating
>>23996453It kind of looks midget proportioned in the CGI render doesn't it?
>>23996450But can the RG do THIS?
>>23996174SEED bros stay winning forever!
>>23996457Funny how RDs routinely solve all of these issues without sacrificing articulation then
>>23996453The long torso probaby came from Battle Operation. Alot of HGs based on these 3D models, especially Todesritter having gundam eyes and red visor.
>>23996459I believe Hamma Hamma suffers mandela effect because almost no one aware that it looks stubby in Izubuchi's lineart. Even i assume it has tall sexy legs and the Re100's proportion reinforced that belief.
>>23996460Do you mean the "plant the shield in the ground and prop up the cannon on top of it" thing? Because the original Ground Gundam never did that either, it's a propaganda invention.
>>23996466Must be my brain then, I keep flipping back and forth between the two images posted above and the HG looks more midget like. Either way I'm glad I got the Re/100.
>>23996460the RG literally comes with a mound to shove the shield in so it's the one least fucking around about letting you recreate the scene instead of some faggy "uwu I'll but down my little bracers" mechanism
>>23996466I like it stubby, I said the HG's legs were too small not too short
>>23996443More accurate than the Re/100 version
>>23996466That's because it looks lanky in the anime where it actually appeared. Most people watch the shows and don't exclusively jerk off to lineart.Admittedly, most people haven't seen ZZ (peak) so they just don't know
>>23996469>uwu I'll but down my little bracersI believe it can do that weird shield cannon thingy just fine without the base.
>>23996469You can scratch build that mud piece using some putty. So far none of RG Ground Gundam's gimmick and redesign feel justified for the potentially 60$ price tag. Unless you are a hardcore fan then buy it for the sake of Ground Gundam collection.
It's hilarious seeing people complain about gunpla prices when you've built any other models.
>>23996489>it's hilarious see people complain about going to war when I'm already a fuck nugget
Speaking of the Hamma Hamma, I came across this thing while searching for screenshots of the Hamma from the anime, the description claims it's a Hamma Hamma Custom but would it be a bootleg of the Re/100?
>>23996489the price increase is kinda tame.
>>23996489Other brands get complains too so gunpla is not gonna get any special treatment, not when they are made by a multi billion dollar company.
>>23996491>equating toys to warBased retard
>>23996493That's just a souped up Hambrabi
>>23996495A multi billion dollar company that constantly reports profits and can waste money on bullshit like literal shit toys.
>The knees break down when it kneelsI kinda hate it
>>23996491Gunpla is incredibly cheap compared to pretty much any other model. You'd shit yourself and cry even more if you saw how much volks charges.>>23996494It is but it's still cheap compared to other models. It's also out of their control.>>23996495They don't have autistic people who have made it their lifes work to freak out over the company. When's the last time you saw someone spend 4 hours whining about a mortarheadd costing too much?
>>23996493>Hamma Hamma CustomNigger that's a gcucks hambrabi with atlas rifles
>>23996476I mean, it's not the only case of something appearing sexy in animation but an ugly abortion in the lineart.
>>23996501It's rarely much trouble to cut pegs to disable these kinds of knee extensionsI've been doing it for years since I dislike it on MGs
>>23996500absolutely mindbroken and irreperably shitershattered
>>23996504>>23996498I have no idea what's going on then.
>>23996506I hope it is just a piston so i can discard it.
Since we're shitposting about /pol/slop there's something I wanna complain about regarding white people in this hobby.>recently started selling gunpla on fb marketplace to free up space>Asians respond promptly, with proper grammar, excellent spelling, follow instructions on where to meet and when, almost never try to haggle>white people take a whole fucking day to respond sometimes, cant spell for shit, dont know the difference between your/you're, somehow ALWAYS end up across the street at the Starbucks instead of going to the address I send them, sometimes they make OUTRAGEOUS requests like ask me to drop off/mail the gunpla and let them pay later, offer $20 on a $100 kit, show up and say "oh I only brought $60 cash is that good?" Sometimes I wish Bandai never brought gunpla to the west
>>23996500Why should they intentionally lose money to sell you toys? Why are you that important? Why should they make something knowing full well that by producing it and selling it they lose money? Sometimes a product bombs but why is that a reason that every product should be made at an intentional deficit like you're demanding?
>>23996511SEAmonkies repost people's works to earn rupees from clicks, he didn't make it and doesn't know what it is, as evidenced by the photo description
>>23996518>intentionally lose money to sell you toysI didn't realize suggesting to stop wasting money on trash that won't sell so they can put it towards stuff that does sell is actually telling bandai to lose money.
I wish I had no other problems in life so that the thing that riled me up the most day after day year after year was a toy maker not making me toys right
>>23996522You're whining about price increases. They had to increase the price because the price of the precursor ingredients to plastic got more expensive. Why should they not increase the price to make up for the increased manufacturing price?Why does one product bombing mean they should lose money on everything else forever?
>>23996502>When's the last time you saw someone spend 4 hours whining about a mortarheadd costing too much?There is this thing called different strokes for different folks. Gunpla in 1/144 has been a poor people brand for decades so they are gonna have a harder time accepting the changes, especially when the kits usually come barebones compares to other brands with like 10 different expressive hands and retail option sets instead of web exclusives.
>>23996527Maybe they have bigger problems in life than the cost of toys if they can't afford a 20 dollar model costing 30 dollars in the future.
>>23996525>the price of the precursor ingredients to plastic got more expensive. Bandai's pricing is just whatever they feel like it. They use recycled trash for black plastic and increase the price at the same time.
>>23996248Hell yeah man I'm excited to see you keep going on thisTB's Perfect Gundam is definitely the best thing in itGonna keep the Gundam colours?
>>23996532Every kit since zeta ver.ka has used some amount of recycled plastic. You cannot make anything entirely out of recycled plastic without the quality being horrible. They still need to pay for new plastic. Everyone does, You're retarded and making up excuses to why they're charging you too much for toys.
>>23996529>a 20 dollar modelSoon to be a thing of the past
>>23996540Yeah, because of the cost of raw materials. Maybe bandai started the war just to make toys more expensive to price you out.
>>23996540With shipping and tax, Ashtaron will be 60 and Virsago will be 50. Not worth it for an HG.
>>23996535>You cannot make anything entirely out of recycled plastic without the quality being horrible.You are acting like Bandai cares lmao. Necros knight, MG Zaku Warrior, 1/144 F00 and the list goes on.
>>23996544And they are not even gigantic or anything, AW Gundam are average sized.
>>23996545Bandai has better quality control and plastic quality than pretty much any other manufacturer. What are you even talking about? Have you ever built anything they didn't make?
>>23996525Bandai wouldn't need to increase prices if they stopped making slop.>>23996532Recycled plastic might actually be more expensive than standard plastic. It's a gimmick to pretend to be environmentally friendly.
>>23996551What does making slop have to do with the cost of plastic precursors?
>>23996552>What does making slop have to do with the cost of plastic precursors?Yeah, what does losing money on A resulting in having to charge more for B have to do with anything.
>>23996525>because the price of the precursor ingredients to plastic got more expensiveWhat happened?
>>23996551>Recycled plastic might actually be more expensive than standard plastic.Hell no. It is the practice the Changs model manufacturer use to keep themselves afloat, obviously way cheaper than producing high quality PS from raw materials.
>>23996554The middle east is getting bombed to shit and they produce most of the petroleum based plastic precursors.>>23996553Are you actually retarded?>The doodoo is why plastic costs more now.
>>23996556>Are you actually retarded?ARE YOU??? Are you genuinely trying to claim that a company that loses money in one sector will just deal with the loss and not make up for it in the other sector that is printing dosh? I know we build children's toys here, but we don't have to be fucking idiots about it.
>>23996558You're acting like the doodoo feces started a war and caused plastic to universally get more expensive in every market segment.
>>23996555>Hell noI recall reading that between the effort it takes to collect the used plastic, melt them down, and then re-use them, it makes it far more expensive than just using virgin plastic. I am trying to find a source on where bandai sources their plastic from as well, this guy is convinced that bandai uses Iranian oil I guess.
>>23996561You know when the supply of something is massively choked that other sources of it get more expensive, right? Plastic products across every market are more expensive now. I have a job where I regularly have to pay for plastics and they got about 20-30% more expensive after the war broke out.Do you think american gas stations were sell iranian gasoline? No, but it still got more expensive because global demand for petroleum products was constricted. The same thing happened with plastic precursors and plastic got universally more expensive.Not everything is some doodoo conspiracy to price gouge you.
>>23996563>Not everything is some doodoo conspiracy to price gouge you.>Bandai re-releases the MGEX Strike Freedom and pretends it's a new kit for 150 more dollarsprices have been increasing since 2020. Covid was the excuse, then covid ended and there was nothing going on but prices still increased. Then tariffs were the next excuse. Then tariffs were refunded to bandai and now we have Iran being the excuse as to why my plastic robots cost double the price and bandai is still making record breaking profits yearly despite their products being thrown in the trash and nobody buying them.I'm going to hide any further replies you make, because it's pointless to continue attempting to have a conversation with you.
>>23996565All of those things lead to manufacturing or material price increases universally. You're actually retarded. I implore you to get a job and spend money on things other than toys. You'd know all of that if you did either.
>>23996563>I have a jobNobody that posts here has a job anon
HERE IS YOUR NEW MG FREEDOM, BRO!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rHR6mKw1sc
>>23996556>The middle east is getting bombed to shitWhy?
Can I put a gloss coat on my clear kits to protect my decals or will it look bad?
>>23996554It is a common belief in these threads that plastic is expensive just because oil is expensive, but that's not really true. You can squeeze out such a huge profit margins from small amount petroleum, the price hike literally doesn't matter. Bandai can make dogshit films no one watch and still make big bucks from the merchandises, liscensing and modelkits. Their income is just that big.
>>23996567I literally have my work on one screen and /m/ on my other screen. Later I'll switch over to my plamo table to continue building my WIP.
>>23996572Maybe the doodoopla is why the bombs are getting dropped and that guy is right
>>23996561>the effort it takes to collect the used plastic, melt them down, and then re-use them, it makes it far more expensive than just using virgin plastic.They don't collect random plastic in the wasteland to recycle them, just KPS runners from the donations and then melt them into black gloo. It is actually pretty cheap.
>>23996574Clear plastic on gloss coat looks good
>>23996579the GAY EYE feature seems to be adamant that it's far more expensive to recycle it because of the collection, sorting, them chemicals used to melt down the plastic. https://www.eenews.net/articles/eu-scientists-warn-high-costs-come-with-chemical-recycling/
>>23996574It'll be fine. You shouldn't actually see much of a difference.
>>23996576Half the reason this general sucks is because you feel the need to pipe in every single time over meaningless bullshit.
>>23996587Bandai only use chemical recycling for one kit so far which is the NG 1/144 F00 Gundam. The usual ecopla is thermal recycling, they melt the runners using heat which explain why are all end up being black. If gunpla production is that expensive then Bandai would sell 13cm HGs for 100 dollars rather than 20.
>>23996594>all end up being blackSo the boxes that are labeled with ecopla aren't even entirely ecopla, but just the black pieces?
>>23996594Unfortunately the process of cleaning and sorting out plastic sources for recycling make it a lot less cheap than you think it would be.>>23996596They're entirely ecopla. Theres also off white and gray ecopla which can have additional pigments added. Thats why ecopla kits are always kinda funny colored.
>>23996596The neon colored parts are newly made KPS, including clear parts, however they are just minor compares to the entire body.
>>23996586>>23996591Thanks, boys
>Every black plastic is trashWhat did Bandai mean by this?,
>>23996601>cleaning and sorting out plastic sourcesAs i said before, they use gunpla runner donation. The incineration will probably purge any unwanted properties so there's that.
>>23996611You still have to sort everything out by type of plastic and remove anything that might be incorrectly put in there. Then there's a washing step because you can't just incinerate the impurities. They actually need removed before recycling because that would just introduce impurities into the plastic. The plastic isn't being incinerated. That would be insane.
Bandai went out of their way to make trash gunpla but couldn't afford good internet for a livestream. Real life is stranger than fiction.
>>23996614I found this from bandai that gives a view into their recycling process.https://www.bandaispirits.co.jp/hobbycenter/recycleproject.html
>>23996614>The plastic isn't being incinerated. That would be insane.Except that's what thermal recyling does, you just burn shit until it melts. I doubt they have that good of a quality control because ecopla and black plastic in general has dogshit quality, probably due to the unwanted things got melted along with it. They probably melted ABS along with it because plenty of brown and black plastic got warped and shrunk over time.
>>23996617>Donation from sketchy sources>Melt that shit and turn it into Gundambase exclusivesKek
The real reason for the dissappearance of regular MG releases is because the post-COVID contingent of Gundam fan doesn't buy them. I blame every youtuber who ever made a "How to get into gunpla" video for this because for some reason MGs were always described as "harder than HGs". The newer builder is afraid of building MGs and doesn't know gunpla in general is modeling on baby mode
>>23996618Incineration is not the same thing as getting it hot until it melts. Do you really think the melting point of PS is higher than the point of incinerating every possible impurity? No. There's a washing step.
>>23996625I always find MG to be the real baby mode because the color separation is so good and parts are easier to be handled by children because there is no way there are gonna swallow a 5cm piece of plastic.
>>23996630>baby mode is when the model kit is more complicated and has more complex parts to deal withWhat did he mean by this?
>>23996628Apparently they don't wash it at all and the material separation is probably just clear parts and non clear parts.
>>23996630Yeah, I've never had to mask an MG or RG either
>>23996634Cleaning is probably included in the sorting step.
>>23996632>the model kit is more complicated and has more complex parts to deal withNah, MG is easy. So many big parts. If kids can't deal with longer assembly then they are unable to watch 1 year long cartoon.
>>23996636HG is such a weird line because they aim at 8 years old but is an absolute nightmare for modelers because alot of them are masking tape enablers.
>>23996643>aim at 8 years oldbecause they have a small amount of parts and kids can snap build them in a couple of hours.
>>23996646Stuff like Typhoeus Chimera is the absolute opposite of that. The 8 years old demographic probably indicates the price cause kids have no money.
>>23996647>They sold this, but Full-Cowl Dantalion will never happen.I'm gonna live the rest of my life mad about this.
>>23996648Well the Psycho Gundam MK2 advertisement is nice and custom Raphael is a cutie so atleast there are something good out of it.
>>23996654I only watched the first Gundam Builders with the 5 beam sabered main Gundam. Are the others actually worth watching?
>>23996643Well, the whole point of HG is that it's both the "standard" and "economy" option. Small, cheap, easy to assemble, and wide variety. Ease of assembly panders to children building their first gunpla, and enthusiasts are encouraged to paint them for full accuracy (as well as custom paint jobs and the like). Wide variety also panders to enthusiasts because you have all the options in the world for custom kitbashes, and low cost encourages buying lots and lots of it.>>23996664They're fun. Of the other five, the only one not really worth watching is Metaverse since it's literally just an advertisement for their failed tie-in game. Build Fighters through Build Divers Re:Rise are more full-length and have actual stories, still largely there to advertise gunpla but it does it in a way that you're willing to excuse. Build Fighters Try is easily the weakest of the four, but it still has its high points.
>>23996667HG is probably the most ideal scale for adults in such an ironic way. They feel closer to those challenging military scale models with the lack intricate details like driver seat/cockpit and waterslide decals, forcing modelers to either buy 3rd party stuff or make them from scratch. The kids are probably happy with the price and like stickers so that's probably what the 8+ means.
>>23996625Doesn't make sense since MGs have to had always sell less than the HG line. And beyond that the line was suffering from a slow death since 2016 or so.
>>23996625I don't buy much gunpla anymore in general thanks to them doing away with MGs. It's mostly just reprints of ones I didn't have at this point. Congratulations, they played themselves.
>>23996683Bandai has no incentives to make more MGs when their funny line keeps going up year over year. When you think about it, you give Bandai more incentives to make more MGs by buying bootlegs and Changkits than buying everything Bandai puts out. But a couple of anons aren't ready to handle the truth.
>>23996544Buy from GundamPros using private warehouse
>>23996688And that's exactly what I'm doing. If chang is the only one making things at the right price to content ratio then chang is who I'll buy from. HGs might be cheap but they are cheap for a reason, you don't get much for your dollar.
>>23996534the plan is to stick with the standard gundam tricolor, just with some minor weathering to look like old reclaimed armor parts and also hide any shoddy craftsmanship
>another round of why doesnt bandai make mgsOkay who took the bait?
>>23996618>Except that's what thermal recyling does, you just burn shit until it melts.do you not understand the difference between combustion and reaching glass transition temps?
>>23996324Real Grades aren't supposed to be anime accurate you retard they're re-imaged designs on if the mobile suit existed in real life
Why did this Japanese franchise model the good guys after the Americans and the bad guys after Axis??
>>23996735>if the mobile suit existed in real life it would be a star destroyerYeah?
>>23996737The Gundam is just a cyber samurai though. Look at the helmet shape.
>>23996737The original series was marketed at children to sell toys with a Black and White view of morality. They tried to walk that back immediately with Zeta and future iterations, however. They still try to typically paint Zeon as the bad side though.
>>23996737>why do you bait>because it's in your mongol rape baby nature
>>23996743>They still try to typically paint Zeon as the bad side though.no, they fucking don't
>the only Gaza series to have a HG is the C>no D or Gazown Huh. Could've swore there was. Suddenly got the itch to get one.
>>23996162>>23996400you're right. I'm so fucking stupid.
>>23996802Gaza D got a P-Bandai kit
>>23996861you're tripping dude
>>23996743If you think the original series featured a black and white morality between the Federation and Zeon, you might be the most retarded man in /m/.
>>23996869>t. has never watched Gundam
https://x.com/gundam_tamashii/status/2092780410975760698January 2027. 137500 yen
>>23996882Markers only look good for small sections.
I hate that bandai just keeps rehashing the same popular stuff again again again again and again
>Zack called out gunplafluencers for criticizing MGEX announcement, calling it clickbait for contentsBASED. WE'RE ALL HAPPY WITH BANDAI HERE!
even the gunpla kit you like has been a rehash of an obscure 80's-90's kit, so yeah.
>>23996899Where's my soulful vintage Super Rinko?
>>23996900does this mean they're finally reprinting the High Mobility Zaku MG's after a long time (2018)?
>>23996897dude been at it for 12 years and still hasn't developed a personality
>>23996897he will lose his USAGS and Bandai sponsorship if he tries to criticize Bandai, so please understand.
I'll be going to Asia and I want to buy a lot of Gunpla while I'm there because the prices are cheaper. How the fuck do people carry that shit back home though? Collapse the boxes? Do away with the boxes entirely and just take home the runners? Gunpla does not travel well.
>>23996946The same way you smuggle drugs, use a plamo mule and cut them open to retrieve the goods when you get back home.
>>23996946Bring two suitcases.
>>23996949Heh maybe that might have to be the solution.
>>23996888I can't afford groceries
I hate those shoulders. It reminds me of those puzzle mats
>>23996968It looks industrial, which is actually befitting an RG and a Gundam that was made using the spare parts of other Gundams. And if they move and allow for increased shoulder movement range (without having to move the entire goddamn shoulder armor with it), then all the better.
Ground just looks so greebled and ugly compared to clean white Ez8
>>23996971Is there a more KINO clolor combo than red with bits of gold and black?
>>23996974Black with bits of red and gold.
>>23996964Weed is free. So are pigeons, squirrels and raccoons if you need protein.
Wish they'd pick anyone else since there are already dozens of kits of them.
>>23996720>reaching glass transition tempsPolystyrene's melting point is 240C, judging from this pic>>23996634 Bandai just boiled it with hot water. Cheap shit lmao, not everything they do is Unicorn Magic.
>>23996386what?
I never realized that RG 2.0 is long
>>23996985de-katokified Gundam
>>23996986this looks terriblefirst time I've actually seen the "skirts look like a diaper" analogy actually be relevant
>>23996971Looking good.Is that metallic gloss injection?
>>23996167Perhaps I'm blind but what is the thing here?>>23996922Or much else. I've argued for years that there's much less difference between most gunplatubers and Zack, including mechagay.>>23996987That does look terrible but I see skirts as diaper everytime I see the original GM kits, especially the MG.
>>23996986I heard they were going to do the all the G-n Gundams but since the G7 bombed they canceled all plans.
Almost done with my groupbuild entry, just waiting on an arrtx sponsership to give some markers to paint with
>>23996990autistic comments about the cheeks looking off
>>23996556the plastic in an mg box is only a few pennies' worth anyways. the expensive part is the time on the injection machines (and cncing the molds)
>>23996632it's because color separation is so good you dont have to paint or color correct it, just topcoating the plastic looks the same :)
>>23997001I don't think children care about color separation and whatnot
>>23996971It's really gunpla after all? So they're gonna put up a line of recolored RG's with one MG out of nowhere?
>>23996897That video was rough. Is Zack the single biggest bootlicker in Gunpla? We need real gunplatubers back, Like Rrobbert and Vegeta8259
>>23996897I have been watching different content creators' reactions to the news and I can't say I felt anyone I've watched was being disingenuous so I'm honestly wondering who you're talking about. To be honest, yours has felt the most like that since even you admit that what they're showing off seems like marketing gimmicks. Telling people that their criticism won't affect anything is ultimately counterproductive and bad for everyone. It's bad for us as consumers as what we want to buy isn't going to made. It's bad for Bandai as they waste money developing products that aren't going to sell. It's also bad for you as people aren't going to watch the content you make about said products and aren't going to buy said products from places like where you work. If nothing else, people's criticism can be a bellwether for how the market will react to a product and Bandai would be stupid to at least not take it into account. Just look at the games industry where companies have wasted minimally hundreds of millions of dollars developing games (live service ones especially) a random guy on the street could have told them wouldn't even make its money back. Bandai aren't mindreaders. If the information isn't out there, how are they supposed to know the direction they should go? By the time poor sales numbers come in, it's already too late. How many times has information come out about how someone in Bandai didn't expect one thing or another to blow up in popularity? The Gundam IP itself is an unlikely triumph that was only successfully capitalized on because the people in charge appropriately responded to audience sentiment.
>>23996903They are reprinting most of it except Johnny’s and the black tri star.
>>23997021I appreciate and value the perspective you have to offer when it comes to the sheer amount of love and detail you put into kit projects but I really don't think it's out of line to criticize Bandai's production decisions, whether someone's an influencer or not. Or any corporation's production decisions. When most of your market is people who will build and at most do nub clean-up and do a basic panel lining (many of my builds are like this, with an occasional painting project that takes a while longer), it's probably a good thing to at least listen when a majority of people are crying foul. As a consumer I don't buy that negativity is really performative in most of these cases.This hobby is already a luxury and extreme privilege to experience that many don't have, so I think it's almost always a good thing when influencers/content creators are extremely honest about a kit's negatives before people with less disposable income (not to mention without the resources to use and spend on all the sheer amount of things you need for a really nice paint or custom project) commit to a kit that just isn't going to give them as good an experience out of box, or in this MGEX's case, being too close to the same as the last release with an extreme price increase.Ultimately, when you've got a very close relationship (employed? idk? it's not entirely clear to me but it seems pretty damn close to employed) with a prominent online gunpla and plamo retailer, you've got a pretty vested interest in getting people to give them (and by extension, Bandai) money, and I do appreciate that you're generally pretty open about that, but it definitely affects my willingness to give you the benefit of the doubt on how genuinely positive or truthful your perspective is.
>>23996968Fuck I can't unsee it.>>23996970Looks like shit. Plenty of ways to do it that look better and still offer articulation.
>>23996897Its not clickbait content? Zac has been always the guy who doesnt see any fault in any kit because he looks at it and sees that he can fix that part or change it to what he wants. The dudes a modeller.
I saw some ads on ali showing magnetic nail gel with all kinds of cool finishes and now I'm wondering if they can be used for gunpla. Actually, since I'm talking about nails, why do so many gunpla youtubers paint theirs?
I need some inspiration for my stolen wip.
>>23997029name 3.
>>23997025The "no kit is bad" is really just a perspective from a modeller looking at painting this for competitions, diorama etc. Bandai makes gunpla that double as toys, not just models nowaday, its why we have sliding gimmicks for RG ground gundam and MGSD 00 Raiser. Im more in the toys camp myself, so I appreciate the modern tech and gimmicks bandai has been putting into their models.
>>23997029Because at some point people realize a lot of plamo tools can be obtained cheaper from generic make up tools and that a lot of painting technique overlaps with plamo painting. Even poorfags/ spacelets who use portable airbrush instead of proper airbrush realized they can just use those meant for painting nails. At some point, the ideation progress. Painting nails is the next logic step.
>>23996372Yes, it's an ethereal experience
This dude really copy pasting comments from the video like we care.
>MGEX is another JESUS YAMATO'S GUNDAMBandai's blatant SEED wank is getting very tiresome
>>23997034Ok your point?
>>23997040Oh my god, I had no idea! Did someone from the previous thread figure this out and not tell us?!
>>23997039The autist found himself a new bait for /gpg/
>>23997035I was looking up nip youtubers for ideas on how to make an antenna and saw one recs using 'clear pierce'. Never heard of this 'clear pierce' thing, turns out it's something people use as a filler/ placeholder to stop the pierced hole from closing. That was neat.
>>23996978is blokees my only hope to get Command Mission X action figure?
>>23996978Be glad you at least got Z Zero and SF Mega
>>23997007>So they're gonna put up a line of recolored RG's with one MG out of nowhere?2 of the revealed recolored was made into robot spirits figure, so it probably going to be mix of various gunpla grade/figure
>>23997094>metal buildHoo boy, between this and MGEX Mighty SF, they sure know how to milk the fans for their money.
>>23997102That's metal robot damashii, not metal build, they're two different lines
>>23997094That sazabi colour is pure sex.
you control the models that you build
>>23997116Yeah, it's probably the best looking one
>>23997116Sazabi is pure sex in all forms.
>>23997094Oh, thought they were all going to be gunpla. Still interested though. Will they release before the end of the year, or sometime in 2027?
so its confirmed Kapool and Sumo are coming, that means Turn A is soon....
>>23997149whoops, wrong thread
Same drybrush technique, why does the silver look nice and the gunmetal looks like garbage?
>>23996604What's a kit to build that'll make mommy Sumeragi pamper me with her fat milkers
Fuck whoever posted that articulation gif on here, now I PO'd this thing I barely want. It's your fault!
>>23996737Why did this former axis power make the bad guys look cool?
>Thunderbolt Gogg Soft revealBandai would neverWould never ever everWould rather give you more SEEDslopNever never ever
>GMs 1-3>GM Striker and Sniper II>Jegan one day when it's in stockWhat are some other essentials for my GMbuddy squad, the humble Mk-II is their leader but the sniper's looking pretty reliable and I'm open to other suggestions for leadership, and let the Mk-II go full-solo
>>23997214Looks like a piece of shit.Why is it so dirty?Did you cum on it?
Chink replacements for RG Exia R4's oversized hand.
>>23997219CHINA ALWAYS DELIVERS
>>23997214essential stinger
>>23997214the desu stinglet
Zhang is making a weapons pack for that one TB Acguy that nailed the scale so no real reason to get the other two Zhang TB if you ask me
>>23996897That wasn't even his rants point though. He literally said if it wasn't his job he wouldn't buy the MSF as it isn't different enough. He was arguing that going on a giant negativity spiral isn't good for the hobby. He then told people to go buy Chinese kits if Bandai isn't doing what they want. The point is to bitch less, and talk more about the companies/kits that are doing good.
>>23997272damn it's almost like no one like listening to mental 12 year olds whose biggest problem in life is a toy robot not being what they wanted
>>23997272>He was arguing that going on a giant negativity spiral isn't good for the hobby>The point is to bitch less, and talk more about the companies/kits that are doing good.The real thing that isn't good for the hobby is allowing the most powerful corporate conglomerate in this market sector to control the narrative through shills pretending to be independent. The negativity will continue until morale improves.
>>23997276>you see if you aren't whining about it that means you're complicit and love it>because bandai reads comment sections religiously and takes feedback from anons in /gpg/ about what they're whining aboutwhen you grow up you learn that what you do when you don't wanna buy something from a toy company is you don't buy it
>>23997277Being a child is thinking you're mature because you "roll with the punches". Being an adult is recognizing that the multi billion dollar corporation doesn't need defending and its cult fans should be able to accept minor criticism and negativity.
Done with M-01 Messer. Vastly prefer the F-01 type but I'm putting my money where my mouth is.
>>23997278>you have to join my crusade it's against a billion dollar corpo who isn't making my toys right don't you get it they hecking made one of the most popular suits ever as the new MGEX instead of what I wanted and they raised the price why aren't you so mad about thisno anon, no I don't, I don't care and just won't buy it because I don't want it, grow up and get real problems
>>23997280They made the chest huge for some reason on this one.
>>23997282what do you mean for some reason? cus it always was. It's the novel Messer and it had a giant ass chest.>>23997280Cute but some messy lining and unlined bits like on the shoulder shield, looking forward to grabbing one myself, maybe two
I'm almost sure that poster complaining about Bandai not making kits HE wants (and assume that HIS desires are universal), shitting on 30M lines and sucking Pooh dick is the one and the same person.
>>23997200I was going to get that other round one like this but maybe I will wait for this one instead
>>23997290I do all of that but I haven't said anything ITT yet.
China needs to make their own robot cartoon to make official kits of. It can basically just be a copy of Gundam like that new Hoyo game and Elden Ring, it just has to be something they can crank out toys of that is cool enough that people want to paint it and display it.
Aw shucks. The whole family is here. Some only in spirit.
>>23997298not even Japan can make Gundam anymore and you think some no name chinks are gonna do it bootlegs are here to stay until Bandai gets it's head out of it's ass I'm sorry to say
>>23997290>30M lineWho gives a damn about literal mcdonalds toys?
>>23997290yeah no shithe's also the retard that had his psycoframe melty and more than a few others
>>23997305Wait what's going on with the psychoframe
>>23997269I've been eyeballing all 3 but still undecided on which one. mostly split between the little ones you posted and the other brown one that's oversized. from what I've seen the purple ones look to be nice quality, I just don't like their design.
at least you aren't buying blokees
>>23997313it was a while ago but he just went on an enormous chimpout over the sazabi ver ka's activation mode and started spamming like a nutterSimilar things have happened a few times but that one got a meme out of it
In the event that you aren't in Japan or just shit out of luck in stock of something you want, what's the maximum amount of mark up from SRP from a reseller are you willing to open up your ass for?
>>23997318-10%
>>23997318You can never get anything at SRP these days anyway unless you live in Japan. And even if you directly pre-order shit from Japan, the shipping will still find a way to fuck you over. I expect to be fully turbo jewed whenever I'm buying a kit, not unless the shop is doing an inventory sale or something.Either way, my getting fucked threshold is within the 15-30% range. But I only bite my lip and take the assfucking for anything above 20% when I really want that specific kit.
i ordered 8 blokees blindboxes yesterday
>>23997303People who actually build, paint and customise their stuff.
>>23997320Damn, so you basically only buy stuff nobody wants
e2046 sucks ass, ive been waiting months for my several preorders, nothing has arrived.
>>23997349I haven't bought from them in like 15 years but they sucked then tooI miss hobbyfan, they actually sold me recasts on a reasonable timeline when I bought from them
Am I getting gaslit or does this seem as easy as it looks? Would be interested to try it since I don't always have the patience to brush paint, especially large surfaces https://youtu.be/8CTU4KTEP28
Just in case any Euro is interested, Side7 is selling a bunch of 30MM and 30MS stuff at a 50-75% discount (along with some other stuff at smaller discounts.)https://side7.nl/collections/august-sale
>>23997370They always have great sales but they don't have the extensive stock they used to have. I don't need it bit PGU-Nu for €510,-
>>23997370>40bucks in shipping even tho I'm just across the pond and still in the EUbruh!
>>23997382Across the pond but still EU? Were would that be?
SMP is such a massive ripoff holy shit. They're more expensive than even military kits and you need to paint (non-negotiable) for them to look good because the stickers are horrendous. I just know most of the price point goes to Toei's money anyway for their Sentai license.
>>23996888>plagiarised some gooks drawings and charge $1000+ for itlmao, first bandai copying the bootleg solution to the RG akatsukis hips now this shit.
>>23997385Greenland or, if he's misusing the expression, Ireland
I'm going to be honest, I think RG Ground made me realize I don't like Gundam. I like realistic tank mechs and WW2 aesthetic and that makes less than 1% of this franchise. Everything else is SEAshit which are closer to superheroes than anything else. Any recommendations for "armor" mecha other than MA.K?
>>23997394>WW2 aestheticThere's a million WW2 tank model kits, go build one
>>23997394>RG ground made me realize I don't like GundamDon't blame the robot for what the chines- I mean modern bandai did to it. UC One Year War robots were originally designed to be like proper war machines, inspite of them being designed also to be toys. Pic related. Solid armor panels all over with few greebles or panel lines.
>>23997386and they have no bootlegs, upscale or anything for Christ's sake.
>>23997391Ah yes, I always forget that part of Ireland is still EU. I never bought from there but mainland Brittain was expensive with shipping (and exchange for their fake irrelevant money) even before brexit, post brexit it takes longer for stuff to arrive and mailbox size packages float in mail purgatory for ages.
>>23997394>>>/toy/11878456
>>23997276You can not let them control the narrative, by ignoring their shit releases and talking up their competitors.
>>23997368One way to find out anon, just try it
>>23997406I run on a platform of education, especially for normalfags.
I know this is the circlejerk hour but actually talking about the RG Ground Gundam, I love what they did to the shoulders. It's definitely not true in any way to the original design but RG isn't really about that anyway. Hanging armour for the shoulder armour front/rear portions has been on my mind for ages as a design motif and it's cool to see it done here. Big fan of that alone. It's a very practical design element and I always thought shoulders were the perfect place for hinged or hanging armour.
>>23997409Which is why you talk up the good Chinese kits? I fail to see how having a melty about a toy release is educational.
>>23997406all fun and games until the resident schizo starts complaining about you talking about the competitors and starts pinning all his grievances on you
>>23997411> It's a very practical design elementI guess modern tanks use skirts to attach their hinges to protect the wheels and treads, but I don't think it's practical for this. It adds a major weak spot to the shoulder armor that's supposed to be protecting the squishy mechanics beneath.
>>23997419You gotta keep in mind it's armour intended to protect a joint underneath, so practically comes from design in accomodating (and protecting) that. It can easily raise and lower with the joint behind it without the whole shoulder block moving. It's very practically designed for articulation compared to something like the entire shoulder block rotating with the shoulder joint. Less complexity, less maintenance, in more realistic terms. If the shoulder armour takes a shot it fulfilled its purpose, the hinges connecting them might be vulnerable but so is the actual joint just a few feet next to them and honestly with how they've designed it there's not really much of a way to even shoot the "hinge" so precisely. Moreover if you have a big locked shoulder unit it's that much more difficult to repair. A hanging slab of armour is as simple as simple gets for a shoulder protector, if the block's damaged you can replace it with any crane and a person in minutes.
Ngl /gpg/ this is pissing me off.
>>23997428>Less complexity, less maintenanceA single piece of armor that rotates with the arm/shoulder is more complex than designing a hinge system that lifts when the arm moves? is light enough that the arm doesn't have to fight it but heavy enough that it will hopefully protect against not just small arms fire but possibly tank rounds? That doesn't sound right.
>>23997428I would argue that IRL military would detach these elements for maintenance after missions, similar to how planes are partially disassembled after flights (one of the reasons why F-14 were phased out - having to take off plates around wing moving mechanism was just too problematic) and the connection would not be that vulnerable anyway, not much more than actual armour around. It's pretty reasonable overall.Btw, personally I'm still unsure if gundams should be treated like walking tanks or walking (and occasionally flying) planes.
>>23997433Yeah, I hate the painted fingernails trend too, it fucking sucks.
>>23997438Well, I shorthanded a little on that. Such a style of shoulder protection is absolutely capable of being the least mechanically complex since the top portion which holds the front and rear plates doesn't need to move at all, and in fact, no part of the shoulder thus needs to move except for the simple hinged armour plates and you're left simply dealing with fixed structural supports instead of any actual powered joints.I doubt the shoulder is so simply linked to the torso as this could be done on this particular kit but I didn't go through the video to really see, I'm sure it's still going to be designed around the shoulder armour top bit wrapped around the peg between the torso and the shoulder joint or otherwise affixed to the shoulder. In either design the shoulder has to lift the armour, the joint must move all that mass when it does. This actually requires less energy because it only needs to concern with lifting the front armour panel, rather than any movement of the shoulder joint requiring the entire mass of the shoulder armour to be moved with it. Especially with some Gundam designs this can lead to some stupid mass distribution for a joint to have to deal with honestly, not so insane for the simple design of Ground Gundam's shoulders though.>>23997444I've held a general view forever that in reality most mecha outside the blatantly super robot sphere of things aspire to or otherwise are most similar to helicopters for any practical purposes but nearly every setting is concerned with rule of cool first and foremost and people's tastes on what they envision robots to be is what decides that at any point. 08th MS Team is definitely more on the tanker inspo than anything aerial.
>>23997433Hi Mecha gaikotsu
>>23997455Why? You dont like cloud blue?
It is actually legal to sell fanfiction designs like Blechman and Black Knight but an actual bootleg is not allowed? https://x.com/kowyokoyama/status/2092996825523622296
CHINAoh wait....
>>23997483And i thought the RG was the worst anal rape this poor guy had to endure.
don't like the direction where RG is going. the first generation RG got some horrible coloring mix like a cluster fuck of color gray mixing with white , blacks mixing with the gray The second generation of RG generally speaking went a lot muted. For white color mobile suits, there isn't that much of color contrast that really distract the eyes, tallgeese to even God Gundam. follow this directionBut after God Gundam they went back and even went the extra miles by not only having high color difference but also pointless black "dents" all over the place. Rx-78 2.0 just looks bad and ground Gundam is no better. Though darker color suits usually don't have this problem
I'm gonna get the Osiris Dominator, is there a good third party Stark Jegan kit or am I "stuck" with the PBandai MG that's incredibly scalped?
>>23997489You do know the plastic color is not a real problem. The vents though, that look trash.
>>23997489rg wing zero looks good
>no laser rifleOOF
>>23997497that's a pretty shade for the sabres
CHINAAAAAAAA
>>23997497>Laser riflePbandai, son!
>>23997501Which is the chinese one?
>>23997501I'm surprised that it isn't 5cm taller cause Changs love big boys.
>>23997503>The Chink redesign looks less greeby than the Japanese redesignDark times we are living in.
>>23997512Inb4 shitstorm again.
is it safe to spray lacquer surfacer with rapid thinner on ABS runner? sounds ideal when parts are undergated.
>>23997501>>23997503>chink kit looks cleaner than bandai'smmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>23997503Rising legit looks like a shitty Build Fighters design
please goodsmile, please let me preorder dix-neuf already
>>23997501>these fucking feet on risingtransformation was a mistake
>>23997398>>23997405Those don't have legs
>>23997503the gold frame is so ugly against the white, blue and red
Apparently Bandai plagarized a Korean 3D model for their Metal Structure MKIIhttps://x.com/_deerhunter/status/2092887209271799922
>>23997583Daaaamn Kim about to get rich.
>Robots keep getting uglier and greebly>Commited theft on a Gook>Used melted trash to make kitsBandai is an honorary Chinese company
>>23997394Go look for kits of Makoto Kobayashi designs
>>23997583Bandai owns Gundam, they're in the right
>>23997618Then that means Futa Kudelia with fat cock is canon? Yeah baby!
>>23997394Honestly Ma.K is still your best shot since it has retail plastic kits you can pick up. Kobayashi and Kondo's resin recasts are abit difficult to buy due to e2046's quota system but you can give it a shot.
To pay my respects to the late Peter Cullen, I'm thinking of buying another HGCE Strike Dagger, painting it like Optimus Prime and giving a wrist blade and shoulder cannon. Any kitbashing tips?
>>23997583They didn't, someone in the marketing department probably googled some 3d designs for MK II and lazily copy pasted it there. The metal structure is very different to this 3d design.
>>23997675Someone in the comment section said they might have used his 3D model as design reference and accidentally uploaded it as official. They obviously planned this toy 3 years ago but that was probably just a mockup for display.
Regular base jabber or type 89?
E2046 is having a Buy 2 Get 1 Free sale right now on all in stock kits. Might be a good time to check out what they have.
Are the Aqueous paints any good? I want to not huff lacquers but I also don't want to gum up my airbrush every 10 seconds and have a finished coating you can just peel off the kit. I also would prefer not getting brain damage from fumes, I already have enough.
>>23997299beautiful collection.except that giant fat chicken of a suit penelope
>>23997349their preorder system is misleading / a scam. if a preorder isn't listed as "preorder (purchased)" then preordering is just waiting indefinitely, potentially for years, potentially for something that may never be produced.they do not create the mold and start actually casting the GK until preorders hit their target threshold.
>>23997478what am i looking at here? some jp guy ai sloperated posters to sell his 3d printed resin figure designs and got canceled because slopmachine put Ma.K in the background?
>>23997696Yeah
>>23997629>Any kitbashing tips?Yeah, kitbash your paint with some thinner
>>23997331>People who actually build, paint and customise their stuff.Lol. LMAO even.
>>23997701The quota system is just pure scam, not even misleading. They are litterally stealing your money if the pre-orders don't reach the numbers they want. This is why i make fun of resinfags for using E2046 as a proof that you can just "buy" these rare kits without facing some sort of bullshit.
>>23997299Beautiful collection, SPECIALLY that beautiful chicken Penelope <3 Here is mine doing beam spam
>>23997721nice Bateman apartment
>>23997712already kitbashed paints with thinner, anon
>>23997629>>23997733why are SNEEDfags like this bros
>>23997739not a SNEEDfag; I just use SNEED kits as basically target practice
Why the fuck is HG Hamma Hamma so expensive
>>23997719i still have an unpaid yen xing and artemie on preorder e2046. have never gotten a payment request. it's been over 15 years.
Next time someone sends me an insulting lowball offer on eBay I'm gonna accept it and not ship their order. Just gonna take their money and keep it until they complain.
>>23997809ebay and paypal literally ALWAYS side with buyers over sellers. you're fucked bro
>>23997809I will continue to lowball, and if anyone ever accepts and tries to pull this shit, I'll be happy to wage a campaign of getting their account deleted.
>>23997812>>23997813I'd still give them a refund eventually not until the very last day of the 30 day grace period. You can't leave a bad review either because I'd cancel the order. Forget about getting my account deleted too lol you absolutely would not be able to. I'm tempted to post my listings here as an open challenge to you personally.
>>23997433Is this Johnny Joestar?
>>23997400>UC One Year War robots were originally designed to be like proper war machinesNo, arguably only the Zaku fit that criteria, most of them were throwaway monster-of-the-week bullshit meant to make the main toy of the show look strong. It was only really when MSV rolled around written by actual military otaku that they started comparing them to real war machines like the Gelgoog's Me262 to the Zaku's BF109.Even then, the guys who made MSV thought most of the designs were unsalvageable. Like the MSV Goufs not having heat rods because whips on a robot was the most retarded shit ever, or not a single aquatic MSV because they're all ugly sea monsters and if they had their way would be retconned out of existence.(No, picrel doesn't count because they're not actually MSV, being designed during the run of the original show, but they get lumped in with them for convenience)
>>23997821>disliking aquatic MSThose fags had zero taste and no sense
I have paint burnout
>>23997813>I will continue to lowball,how often does it actually succeed?should I he hopping on the lowball grind to get cheap gunplas?
>>23997817You sound like a miserable cunt. Enjoy your ebay "store" I guess.
>>23997821>>23997838Yeah, whips are fun and so are my waterboysIf you could design an amphibious whip, or one made entirely out of water, that would be even cooler
I have paint lung burnout
>>23997848i did it for the gundam tcg and got a fair few cards for close to 40% less what they had it listed for if you make a somewhat reasonable lowball chances increase if you try to just -99% everything then it wont
My Imperialdramon snapped in half
>>23997904digibummer
>>23997433Jueri Haan, I like her snapshidding streams
i was looking for an EVA-01 kit to get and it came down to this and the MENG model and this won out because it seemed like the best value for the money.
>>239979133 JEWSTARS OUT OF THREE???
>>23997913Meng kits are usually good, they're just on the more expensive side because their kits always come in larger scale.
>>23997919yeah. the magi system. havent you seen the show?
A while ago I bought a bunch of the Efreet bootleg variants as they were coming out.I built the Efreet Nacht, with the bright pink sword, and it was so terrible I got discouraged on them and regarded all the bootlegs as trash.I then fell off of mini building for a few months, and, coming back to it today, I decided to build one of the other Efreets so I don't ruin a good kit.Pleasantly surprised by the Efreet Schneid bootleg. Some flashing, fitment otherwise good.
>>23997787this, shit should be 2000 yen maximum
>>23997787hamma hamma is big
>>23997787HG kits being 2.5k+ yen is the new normal now.
>>23997938>HG kits being 2.5k+ yen is the new normal now.>HG kits being $15+ dollars is the new normal nowgood thing that is cheap as shit
>>23997941that wirr be 30$ forr you gaijin
>>23997936wrong
>>23997945It's bigger than the ZZ and ZZ is pretty big.
>>23997948okay so? that doesn't mean the kit should be expensive
>>23997955Yeah it actually kinda does. Do you think psycho gundam mk.ii should be 20 dollars too? It's pretty big.
Does anyone know the difference between DSPIAE's ZPB and YPB chisels? A YPB costs twice as much... are the ZPBs any good for just $10?
>>23997965Yes, every HG should be 15 to 20 burgers regardless of how much plastic is in the box
>>23997971It's as tall as a PG, and you think a PG sized kit should be $20?
Any other Girlpla with the gimmick of having the girl and a mechanical vehicle/familiar as two separate models. But they can eventually fuse to make the girl become a more conventional looking Mecha Musume?Stuff like Alice and Little Red Riding Hood from the Chaos & Pretty Megami Device Line, or the Upcoming Hemoxian Rusty Rose?It's a gimmick I've been really digging as of late. Lots of fun ways to keep changing up their display pose.
>>23997979Dark Advent deluxe lines do that
>>23997979Aoshima's Macross kits
not sure where the hate came from; this is a pretty decent MG kit so far
>>23998032are those porn videos
>>23998032Because enough time has passed that most people view any MG made before 2013 with the same eye for quality. The MG The-O was a 2004 MG released in 2010, and its quality is comparable to a 2020 HG.
>>23998032what hentai you watchin?
>>23998032Nice Retsupurae Car Escape
Question for the thread: Why the absolute fuck are HGUC RGM-79(G)'s so fucking hard to find under $50+tax+shipping+tip?!?! I had to use a second hand striker version painted as a desert model to fill in a gap in my collection. I just want a complete 0079 lineup and im so close to the finish line.
>>23998052here's a helpful tip when it comes to bandai kits, if it's normally a cheap kit but for some reason you cannot find it anywhere for around the MSRP, then it's out of print for a while.
>>23998041>The MG The-O was a 2004 MG released in 2010, and its quality is comparable to a 2020 HG.People forget that not every 2006-2014 MG was a ver. 2.0. The O is of comparable quality of the subsequently released Deathscythe EW and ReZEL. It is vastly superior to the best HG.
>>23997928>Efreet NachtWhat's so terrible of it? I got a bootleg of it as well and didn't have any issues with fitting etc.
>>23998066I had parts constantly falling out due to being too loose, and the shoulder joints cracked and broke even after I pre-emptively sanded the actual joint balls.This was XFS so it's possible I got a lemon but given the lack of color separation that should have been present and overall poor feel of the kit you probably got a different bootlegI also have a half-built Pale Rider Cavalry and Pale Rider Heavy Weapons and those are both nice
>>23998073I'm not even sure which one I got, the box doesn't even say anything much. And yeah, shit color separation, but then again for me, part of the point of buying bootlegs was to practice painting.
>>23998076Same box. Seems I just got unlucky.
>Bought a chang pla plate guillotine>Already cut myself twice during assemblyFirst blood sacrifice I guess
Old Boxes? Covers are separated and neatly folded into an easily viewable format and put in a folder for easy viewing. Container portion itself is discarded.Remainder/Option Parts and Instruction manuals? Put in a plastic bag for each specific kit and organized into separate plastic boxes categorized on type of kit.Old Runners? Chopped up and uh... now what.20+ kits from all kind, Bandai HG/MG/RGs/30ML, Moderoids, Kotobukiya MDs and Changs I don't even know how to categorize over a year and half. And the box is nowhere full. Yet my autistic ass is compelled to fill it up. What can I do with all this stuff when it does fill up though? Maybe all the spirits of the desecrated runners will coalescence into some kind of runner necromorph.
>>23998096melt them down and make new parts out of them
Seriously, why is it so fucking difficult to even find a LEGEND BB kit out on retail? Bandai never gives me what I really want, and it pisses me off, even in Premium Bandai with the SD stuff.>>23998003And where is my Sheryl Durandal? Can't keep the other girl missing in action in forever.
>>23998096>Those runnersBack in the day, I used to make sprue glue and keep that shit, but nowadays UV hardening CA gel has made the practice more or less obsolete.Less mess, faster dry times, no hassle.
>>23998096Return it to the sea
>>23998104I never really did sprue goo, just used filler or putty. But I picked up the super glue gel tip from /gpg it has been a revelation for small gaps and seams.
>>23998096Buy a jug of acetone, melt it down, and spread it on baking sheet to see if you can make usable pla plate.
>>23996072Been a while /gpg/. Got a rare one in working on. An authentic kaiyodo resin Rune Masquer.
>>23998112damn, that looks wicked
>>23998112 Based Barons War enjoyer!
>>23998111Sounds like a colorful way to ruin a baking sheet
>>23998114Just about done painting a retinue for my Wares Blade campaign. That's why all the Mechs are on 120mm bases.
>>23998112wow that mustve cost a lot. supposedly this is getting an ARTPLA kit btw
>>23998117>ARTPLA kitYou're fucking kidding me.
>>23998116That's a nice fantasy medieval mecha setup there.
>>23998116Never heard of Wares Blade, google says it's an rpg, how do you use the minis? Even if you did build them just for fun, that's an awesome collection you have there!
Give it to me straight. How likely do you think it is they're going to release anything for the 00 20th anniversary? Maybe an MG Exia 2.0?
>>23998120So wares blade is a pretty famous (in japan) ttrpg that came out in the late 80s. Its getting an English release in early 2027 thanks to a pretty successful Kickstarter through lion wing publishing. The game plays like AD&D in a sense, it's an old school trpg with very indepth rules on the Ryudes (the Mechs). The setting is like a proto Escaflowne meets the Galient ova meets Record of Lodoss. I'm working on a skirmish game based on these rules and Baron's war.
>>23998125>How likely do you think it is they're going to release anything for the 00 20th anniversary?100%. 00 is one the second most popular AUs alongside SEED and Wing.
>>23998125I'd rather see an MG Reborns or Cherudim first. If Reborns is first, then Cherudim is next. If Cherudim is first, then Reborns is last after all the Season 2 Gundams are released, including the GN Archer. But if they are making an MG Exia 2.0, they have to include the Repair II parts out of the box, and a remake of the Ignition Mode will also come with the Repair I parts, which would also be separately sold in Premium Bandai.
>>23997971This but unironically
>>23997971>>23997975Balteus should've been $40 not $400
has anybody tried this? how is it compare to vallejo mecha paints? I can only use water based acrylics because space and available ventilation is constrained.
>>23998120Tabletop rpg. The usage of miniatures is similar to how chess has it's own props for the units.
>>23998118Nah, i checked their twitter. No new Rune Masquer. They are banking on kaiju stuff.
>>23998181haven't personally tried it but I've heard good things about them if you're an airbrusher i'm a handpainter and as they come pre thinned it might be too thin so I'm hesitant to try but other than that they look good, pretty much same price as Vallejo too
What's (You)r favorite MG? I've only built HG/RG kits so interested in branching out. Was also considering the Solomon GP02/Aerial Dominator as they look incredible but not sure if I should jump in that deep yet. I like chonky/monoeye kits
>>23998190alright, thanks for the feedback. Yeah, the thing about Vallejo is that it doesn't quite stand up to masking process, especially when I wanted to cut the mask directly on the seams no matter what kind of surface prep or how long I allow it to cure. Although recently I have picked back up and I was being sloppy with it, and only waited around 4-6 hours between painting and masking, and for some reason it stay surprisingly intact. I guess I'll get one or two bottles to try and report back when I get a chance. >>23998192my personal favorite's gonna be MG heavy arms.
MGSD Zeus Silhouette by Supa Model
I just want to build something without having to set up the airbrush again and again
>>23998202Are those nipples
We're gonna hit image limit before too long, so new thread.>>23998239>>23998239>>23998239
>>23998065>The O is of comparable quality of the subsequently released Deathscythe EW and ReZENo it isn't.
>>23998096I'm keeping my runners so I can make Runner Gundam one day. Which actually shouldn't be too many runners.
>>23997394
>>23998248substantiate your claimname one 2004 MG of similar qualityexplain why deathscythe and rezel are not equivalent in quality when they have similar inner frame detail, comparable parts count, seams and parts density
>>23998483because they didn't cost 12,000 yen retardThe O for 12k yen had zero excuse for every major vernier on itto be part separatedwe've done this dance before so go ahead and keep coping about why a kit got reviewed like dogshit when it came out for failing to meet expectations at that price pointit is literally no comparison, you know what my rezel has the O doesn't? a beam rifle that doesn't rely on a gigantic sticker for colour correction
>>23998498>The O for 12k yen had zero excuse for every major vernier on itto be part separatedName a single kit with verniers the size of the chest verniers of the O that have them color separated, especially from 2010. I'll wait.I have no explanation for your personal vendetta against this kit. The 12k price tag is honestly fine when you wind up with a half kilo kit at the end of the build. Again, you completely ignored the ReZEL and Deathscythe being of similar quality because you can't refute that.
>>23998514>Chest vernierwho said chest vernier? but sure, here you go, it's called the fucking MG Sazabi you little mouthy retard talkin about shit you don't understand>personal vendettaI have no personal vendetta against it. I bought it well after and I like it plenty, it's a centrepiece of one portion of my displays. The idea it was actually some totally great kit and just on par with everything at the time is nonsense by someone who wasn't fucking there and is running defense for the kit for ??? reasons. It was an outdated mold released at a high price point that was a disappointment, and there's a good reason it was a disappointment: because it wasn't matching the standards of the time let alone the expectations of a 12k yen MG.They aren't of similar quality, period. ReZEL has better colour separation. So does Deathscythe. Both kits actually accurately represent the gimmicks of the kit. The O will never live down not having 4 beam sabres, nevermind being covered in vernier which don't have the decency to be part separated at all from their frame elements in the majority of cases.
>>23998520Wow, check out these separated vernier!I can't wait to see how well Bandai can make MG The O!that's me in 2004 btw
>>23998523Oh heavens, look at that, they didn't even try.Wow! 12k for this. No, this is why it was flopped and no one fucking wanted it until 20 years passed and enough people said "Well, I still want it because it's a 1/100 The O and it's what we've got."
>>23998524Meanwhile this? This right here?The O wishes. If ReZEL was constructed to the spec of MG The O, this white vernier housing would either be the blue of the leg or just the black of the interior. Which you'd know if you looked at MG The O and MG ReZEL, nevermind actually built them.
>>23998520You're asking for two part color separation, this isn't even comparable. The verniers on the O are two colors. Grey outer part. Teal inner part (optional dark center, as would need to be colored). The grey is color separated to the same size and degree anywhere as in your sazabi example. You're being intentionally obtuse. The sazabi only needs to achieve half as much. >The idea it was actually some totally great kit and just on parI never stated such. I said it was decent, and on par with some of the less impressive kits of the time (ReZEL, Deathscythe (or any Wing MG, honestly) >>23998527Oh shit! a giant white piece that can rely on the underlying simple-ass inner frame to separate color! Wonder why the significantly protruding O verniers can't do that!
>>23998530I'm asking for part separation. I'm not asking for a perfect recreation necessarily. It's actually not that hard though.>You're being intentionally obtuse.No, you're being fucking stupid. The centre of Sazabi's shoulder vernier are also black. "Yellow sides, black nozzle in a concave recess" is extremely typical. It's no fucking different bud, it's asking for the same thing: two pieces instead of one. Actually in The O's case, it's more like just asking for any of them to actually even have a piece instead of simply being completely molded as inner frame details. Do you see how they did the back thrusters? The ones actually separated? They could do that for all of them. They literally could. It is exactly the same as Sazabi's shoulder, fuck it is the same as the collar inserts on The O itself. Insert pieces just like that can fit in all of them and all you're left having to do is paint the flat interior piece black. That would be very easy, you know? The kind of thing a 12k yen model might be expected to do in 2010.>Oh shit! I don't know how models are made!Damn man guess what they could do literally the exact same thing with The O's thrusters and it would be an improvement over their design right now. They're kind of an important part of its appearance, being the only detailing visible across most of it between the armour in various forms. You might think a 12k yen model would do something like that.
>>23998538you're asking for 1mm to 2.5mm parts here. sazabi doesn't even come close. your lack of familiarity with the basic structure of the kit makes me think that you never have built this kit. but gold star for effort having a melty over a kit you will never own.
>>23998546well alright buddy just gimme a fewit's completely doable actually, where would you like me to compare the Sazabi MG Shoulder to on MG The O? I'll put it right next to it just for you.
>>23998546I just went ahead and did it to the shouldersOh my hecking god look at that!btw ReZEL's clear inserts on the torso? pretty much the same size as itweird that for a kit that's totally not better engineered than The O btwtell me more about how I won't own this kit next anyways
>>23998552congrats, you just demonstrated that the yellow pieces on the sazabi are LARGER than the whole vent on The O. And don't have the central hole you were memeing about!0/2, an attempt was made
>>23998554cool that you don't understand depth, they're damn near the same size as the larger holesof course keep in mind this is in fact a kit made almost 10 years prior so I should really hope they could do better than the Sazabi did right?>central holenot sure what you're talking about, they're right there, there's simply no panel lining on the Sazabi. Are you okay?
>>23998557You do realize that the grey protruding vents on the O are color separation, no? The teal parts you would need here for the full two color separated vents would be 2mm wide at the largest, and 3mm tall. Bandai has never made color separated verniers that small (excepting the yellow rings on RG Nu's forearm). You are quite simple and do not understand the components that would be required to achieve what you are asking for.
>>23998561You do realize the Sazabi is meant to have black centres (again) right, and that having them built this way is better than the alternative and in fact makes it much easier to get perfect accuracy? Like do you understand anything? I said it wasn't about perfect accuracy, but far better because the important part is the interior colour. The majority of the vernier on The O are larger than that Sazabi vent. I could go around and find even smaller parts if I wanted. They'd made MG F91 by the time The O rolled out I assure you it has even smaller parts than would be needed for 90% of parts to provide reasonable separation to The O's vernier. For fuck's sake F91's backpack vernier are the size of most of them.You're making weird excuses for a kit that released before you were cognizant of the world and trying to be a revisionist about it. ReZEL is a better kit. Deathscythe is a better kit. The O was an embarrassing release for a lot of reasons and this is one of the bigger ones. A 12k yen kit in 2010 had all the expectations of separating, at the very least, most of them. You act like every piece is the chest because you want to make the strongest little autism argument you can but the fact is the backpack, feet, skirts and several other prominent areas are large pieces that look like shit OOB and there's no excuse you'll ever conjure for it. It's lazy bullshit and that's why it didn't sell. And here you are trying to say "no no it's impossible those giant backpack vernier couldn't possibly be even just two parts" because you're a clown who has decided to be contrarian about something for I don't know what reason, but even in the face of facts you keep deluding yourself about reality.In short, you're weird.
>>23998569So you're saying you'd rather have teal vents everywhere, and have to paint the outside grey, and the inside grey as well? Because that's what you would get with the technology of the time. The ReZEL and Deathscythe are 100% comparable and your only attempt at proving otherwise is a singular white piece on the ankle thruster. No idea why the O pissed in your cornflakes, but it's absolutely wild that you'd shit your pants this hard over some anon calling the kit "pretty decent."Even if the teal parts were separated out as you want them to be, and you had to fill in the grey centers by hand, you would again be dealing with 1mm to 2.5mm parts to properly color separate the chest and shoulder verniers. You're not even being intentionally obtuse at this point; you're a certified windowlicker.
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>>23998572>Because that's what you'd get withNo it isn't. It literally is not. The majority of The O's vernier have ample room to have an insert piece which is teal in them. The actual, real majority could just accept an insert piece. They are large enough, period, by 2010 standards and even by 2004 standards.Do you realize how large the foot vernier are on it? They're as big as Gundam chest vents dude. They're not small pieces. This wasn't difficult to do then. They were lazy.The only sense in which they're comparable is they show how out of date and poorly crafted The O was by comparison. Which, again - is why it didn't ever sell. Can't dodge reality man. It was not made to the degree they could have at the time, not even close. Is it going to explode? Does it give you cancer? Does it implode on itself? No. Is it an alright representation of The O? Sure, except for the fact it costs what it does, which is relatively important to a model kit you have to buy to get.
>>23998585>No it isn't. It literally is not. The majority of The O's vernier have ample room to have an insert piece which is teal in them. The actual, real majority could just accept an insert piece. They are large enough, period, by 2010 standards and even by 2004 standards.>Do you realize how large the foot vernier are on it? They're as big as Gundam chest vents dude. They're not small pieces. This wasn't difficult to do then. They were lazy.For the chest shoulders and top of the skirt? Absolutely not possible with the tech of the time. For the lower skirt and foot thrusters it would be possible, but if you already are going to paint the whole torso, why bother? Paint isn't going to kill you.
>>23998598I see you now must shift your own goalposts to "and why does part separation matter anyways, don't you wanna PAINT IT?"Well sorry retard, guess what, it's molded in colour for a reason and there's a reason people value part separation and colour accuracy for these kits and your inability to understand that is quite illuminating as to just how dull you are.
>>23998601I accept your concessionbetter luck next time!
Some people here are really retarded, and forget that prices for kits back in the day were also based on how many units bandai expects to sell to turn a profit.Theres a reason why sazabi ver ka is offensively cheap while O alot despite containing similar plastic content amounts.
>>23998714They still do that and it's extremely common in any high scale business because of opportunity costs. What do you think they're doing, pricing according to the plastic? The plastic that costs them next to fucking nothing? Prices for toy anime robots are always a product of estimated return, mixed with a lot of logistical elements that actually matter in large scale production like amount of new molds, amount of runners and size of box they necessitate and all the other things that go into releasing a model beyond just the actual plastic.Perhaps what you, the actual retard, fail to realize is that everyone fucking knows that now and knew that then and it was still an unacceptable price for the release, which is why Bandai didn't reprint it forever. Literally the market decided it was a bad model. They estimated wrong and didn't get a good return at that price because, surprise surprise, you can't just make a stupidly expensive release of a middling-to-low popularity suit AND phone in the quality, because you were banking on the few fans who actually wanted to buy the fucking thing to do so. But when they can't even give it 4 beam sabre blades - always worth remembering The O has a singular gimmick and it involves using more than two fucking beam sabres - then the response is and was the warranted "who the fuck do you think you are, Bandai? I'd pay the tax for an unpopular model if it was a passionate reproduction, but this is lazy as fuck and you clearly didn't really try at all."And then it didn't get reprinted for the next 15 years.
>>23998732In hindsight, bandai has always hated the people who made them rich for some reason. When was the last time you got those larger sized pilot models? 20 years ago?
>>23998744They didn't really do that many of those and I don't really think that many people lament their absence so I understand why they didn't do them.They also went and did the Hardgraph line for the people who would care and while I have no clue how well it did they certainly didn't keep making more when there were more OYW designs they coulda interpretted in 1/35th for sure. Same with stuff like the EX ship line, a personally lamented loss for me.
