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>>23996538Gihren still fucking dies
>ifYou faggots need a video essay to explain fucking everything to you.
>>23996559why'd you quote if like that
>>23996538The question has never been >"What if Zeon won the One Year War?" but >"Is there a good story to be told if Zeon won the One Year War?" After watching Japan make Gquuuux, the answer seems to be a big fat NO.
Not your fan fiction writing personal army
>>23996616What even would be a good story to if Zeon won?
>>23996652Everyone quickly realizing how badly the zabis played them as they almost immediately fall into poverty from a lack of self sustainability. They'd be at each others throats in a year.
>>23996538*sigh* what could have been https://youtu.be/PC_jA8AJivU?list=PL_3D4fll8ysW_KE0BkqMRBywnaR1pNyr9
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>>23996652>>23996616>>23996538Zeon is only interesting to fans BECAUSE they lose. They start with massive advantage at the start of the war, have multiple chance to win, but still fumble each time. That's why Zeon is so interesting to analyze and discuss.
>>23996652>What even would be a good story to if Zeon won?As an American, I'll take a swing at writing a good post war scenario.1. Dec 0079 - Zeon wins war. 2. Jan 0080 - Federation military space fleet remnants flee to the asteroid belt.3. Zeon established new world order with Zabi family leading the way. Immigration to space is enforced for Earth population. New Colonies and Sides are built under Zeon control.4. 0083 - Federation Remnants launch an attack on Side 3 using a secret experimental Mobile Suit called Gundam GP02 using a nuclear weapon. Degwin Zabi is killed in the nuclear attack. Several colonies are destroyed and a huge chunk of Zeon's home fleet are destroyed. The Remnants call themselves the Revil Fleet.This is Followed up with a plan to drop the abandoned former Federation Luna 2 Asteroid onto Granada moon city. The Remnant Fleet use a new Mobile armor called Gundam Dendrobium Gp03 to escort the asteroid. Zeon attempts to stop the drop using a Colony Laser and several Perfect Zeongs and Big Zams. Despite severely damaging the colony, they can't stop the drop. At the last moment the Luna 2 asteroid is suddenly redirected to the real target of Moon city Von Braun. Anaheim Electronics was the real target with their massive mobile suit factories which were taken over by Zeon after the war.5. 0086 - Zeon survived the crisis but without Degwin to maintain the balance, Zeon is now split in several political factions. One faction led by Gihren. Another faction led by Kycillia. And a few neutral factions. Zeon descends into a brutal civil war for control.6. During the Zeon civil war, The Federation returns to the Earthsphere with a large asteroid base equipped with nuclear engines and a large fleet. They have spent 7 years rebuilding and now call themselves "The Titans" and wear black uniforms. The fleet are led by Admiral Bright and the former White Base crew. With new ships and new mobile suits. Amuro is piloting the Gundam Mark 2.
>>23996692Almost like the NAZIS!
>>23996713So where is Char and where is Axis in this scenario??
>>23996616theres not even a good story when the federation won the war so I dont know why youre even going with this angle
>>23996652Fed remnants committing mega warcrimes, but being portrayed in a positive light.>>23996713this is cool too
>>23996538>Universal Century 0088>A half century has passed since Earth's burgeoning population were forcibly moved into gigantic orbiting space colonies. A new home for mankind, where people are born and raised, and die.>Nine Years Ago, the cluster of colonies furthest from the Earth, called Side 3, declared war on the Earth Federation. In just under a month, more than half of the human population was killed.>After nine months of brutal conquest across the Earth sphere, the young Garma Zabi, youngest son of Zeon's leader Degwin Zabi, launched a raid onto the Federation's military headquarters Jaburo, deep in the heart of the South American continent. The Federation's final engine of war on the surface was silenced.>A last ditch effort by Federation forces saw the singular colony Side 7 and the Luna 2 asteroid base jointly launch towards Venus to escape the Zeonic tyranny that would surely follow the imminent collapse of the Federation's authority. In conjunction with this, the Federation's R&D authorities engaged with the V-Project would withdraw with them.>Over the next nine years, the Federal Remnant built up in exile, managing to secure other Federation exiles and a secure contract with the Jupiter Energy Fleet.>Now, almost a decade in exile, the Federal remnant has launched a probing mission into the Zeonic controlled Earth sphere territories, hoping to find weaknesses in Zeon that they can exploit.>The Council of Venus, formerly the scientist corps who worked on the V-Project, have spent the last decade refining their principals and machine knowledge to advance mobile suit technology under Tem Ray's guidance. They have outfitted the probing expedition teams each with a trio of units built on the Ad-V-anced Project systems. Three teams, one to Earth, one to Luna, and one to the colonies, will make up the probing expedition. >Perhaps they can end this Ten Year War.
>>23996713This one is interesting. Why did you stop? Continue.>>23996780Too much pre-amble. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but you lost me half way. It's just too much.
>>23996616>GquuuuxThey were handed on a silver platter the chance to make something great and they completely squandered it.
>>23996713Just have the Space Fortress be a captured Axis and have Haman as a hardcore Titan as Amuro's right hand.
>>23996652>Zeon decapitates the EF>takes Earth> Its just Wolfenstein NO, but with BJ on a GM fighting alongside the Earth resistance. proceeds to wipe out the Zabis himselfkino>>23996929>Haman just needed some feddie dick
>>23996935>Trad GF Haman waiting anxiously for Amuro to get back for him to count how many people he just killed on his last sortie
If Zeon won, tomino would allow himself to write a final solution to earth being harmed by humans and he'd end the whole thing as being radical but necessary action to save the earth.He doesn't permit himself to have this though, which is why the protagonist always stops them.
>>23996954Tomino just needed to get laid
>>23996538They'll almost certainly fall into infighting almost immediately.
>>23996731>So where is Char and where is Axis in this scenario??Not american anon but I think it would go something like this.Char is still probably a lieutenant or got promoted to general, point is he would help out in 0083 to disrupt zeon and make the zabis much easier to pick off and then reveal himself as the son of Deikun and create the neo zeon faction which could act like an evil AEUG to keep everyone in space.>>23996935>>23996940For axis/haman this
>>23996967He already did and he was still miserable back then, at least for a while
Imagine their children. Just like an entire child army of S-tier Newtypes in mass produced Qubeleys instead of Purus.
>>23996616this gcuck autistic meltdown will last for how long again?
>>23997702There are still faggots bitching about seed on this board. It's gonna take a while.
>>23996616Ghiren's Greed?
>>23996774No one cares Zetarager.
>>23997661what if indeed
>>23998287>what if indeed
>>23996713Assertive Zeek loathing Bright Noa fits good into a Titans uniform.
>>23996616There was a good story to be told, it's just that Anno and Enokido don't tell good stories. Only slop like clan battles and multiverse of madness. The man in the high castle had this same problem, the actual good bit about how fascist states have a tendency to eat themselves had to play second fiddle to womyn shit and muh timelines.
>>23999460I could totally see Bright going full Titans mode if Mirai ended up getting killed by Zeon.
>>23996713I do wonder, would Cima and her marines still be in the military? Would Zeon keep trying to screw them over? What about the other units that were considered disposable by the higher ups?
>>23999460they should've gave Bright better drip
>>23996678>Everyone quickly realizing how badly the zabis played themI felt robbed when they sort of establish that in GQuuuuuuX, but also sidestep it by making most of the plot take place in Side 6, who it would likely effect the least given they were neutral.>>23996692>Zeon is only interesting to fans BECAUSE they loseWho let this 12 y/o onto 4chan? Can we ban them?>>23996713I feel like this could be a much more interesting set up without the need of an inverse Stardust Memory. Or at least save that part for the latter as the Federation taking full advantage of the civil war to pick off the stragglers with a tactical nuke strike on Side 3. Even better. Make that bit Quattro's plan and the only people hellbent on stopping him are Amuro and Sayla.>>23996778>"I want more IBO!"That sounds really boring.Actually wait...>>23999586Cima leading a rogue fleet of pirates as a rebel movement against Zeon would be fucking kino. Especially if she helps smuggle "Quattro" into the Federation and helps him take advantage of Gihren and Kycyllia's squabble.
>>23999700>I felt robbed when they sort of establish that in GQuuuuuuX, but also sidestep it by making most of the plot take place in Side 6, who it would likely effect the least given they were neutral.but they were still effected, Gquuux just didn't focus on the Zabis because theres not much more to it than the show already covered, Kycillia and Gihren are basically in a cold war waiting to kill each other which also causes so much of the population to get neglected and it's basically as bad if not worse for spacenoids because now you also got Feddies basically acting as terrorists>>23996692>Zeon is only interesting to fans BECAUSE they lose.this, and writers loves it because it's an easy way to establish the enemy>they're a zeon remnant group so they use the cool Zeon suits also they hate the federation
>>23999700>that sounds really boringyeah no shit, why do you think modern UC is so fucking boring now?at least then we get Fed suits looking cool rather than endless zeekwank
