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https://www.samurai-trooper.net/news/detail.php?id=23809
https://nyaa.si/view/2154855How was the 21st episode?
>>24003273>IT WAS PEAK YOROINEMA!!111
>>24003266Rajura birthday in about a week, right? Maybe Ramaga pushed him and the other warlords into the fountain of death and turned their armor into tempura.
>>24003273Who'll die next in 22? Place the bets.
>Murota was actually surprised when he was chosen, and even more surprised to hear that the YST characters would be returning since he honestly didn't know how to redesign them as older versions of themselves. He said that the designs he submitted for the 6 troopers (including Ryusei) didn't change much and were kept pretty intact, bar some alterations here and there. Murota also said that he could've emulated Norio Shioyama's art style more, but was afraid he wouldn't have been picked due to not standing out enough, so he didn't in the end. He felt that simply using Shioyama's art style for the new gen characters would make them too formulaic and bland. Ryo was the only YST character whose adult design was done by him; the other 4 were done by chief animation director Tomoko Tanaka, with Murota supervising so their base designs didn't stray too far from the original.
You just know whoever the next cheap casualties are will likely have even more random flashbacks of things the viewers never got to see before to hammer in "How sad a loss". >Ryo talking to Nasti or Kaede about how he wishes Gai could be his son>Other old Troopers interacting with the new ones and you question when that could've even happened at all>Really dead montage of Byakuen moments where he's suddenly in scenes he wasn't before, in an almost Drawn Together-like fashion>Jun fanservice as a take that to those who wanted to see that with the old men>Rekka lady then yells at others how the oyaji aren't the main characters anymore so that should be expected, get over it and stop hoping about them, while crying how could Sunrise tug at her feels so bad
>>24003341Who is this about?
>>24003458Yuhei Murota and why his designs were picked. He felt copying Shioyama wouldn't win him the position, so that's why the new boys look the way they do.
>>24003463So he's the one who drew them like that? But why wouldn't Sunrise want to work with a style they were familiar with? Seems odd.
>>24003454Don't forget to add>Ramaga and Sagume flashback to their days as a young couple before the divorce>Gai realizing how much his mother loved him despite not giving a fuck about what happened to him or what he got up to
>>24003499Well, as the quote says, he seemed to find Shioyama's style bland. Guess too "old school"? Unfortunately, it's not like Shuko Murase would've been available from the sound of it.
>>24003273Did Ramaga really kill the original Dark Warlords? If he did, then the show is completely disowned, and should never exist.
>>24003784The Dark Warlords and Original Troopers are naaawt important and are nawt the main characters, stfu FANBRATS!! Ryo daddy loves me but Gai is the true main character and is our future. Trust in Shogo Muto the king of plot.
Isa finally has his face shown, but at the cost of him and all the other Braves' lives.
>>24003784No. Where did you get this idea? The warlords are never brought up even once. It's as if they and Kayura don't even exist in this timeline
>>24003826He doesn't even look unique underneath that mask. Just a generic face. He's quirky for the sake of it.
>>24003806Rekka lady chooses very weird hills to die on
Why are people acting like Sagume being Gai's mom is such a big twist? Is it not one of the least surprising things from this show? We already know Ramaga is his father (biological or not). So who else could've been his mother?
>>24003928Yeah, it's pretty telegraphed that if his dad was the big bad, then someone had to be his mom and Sagume seeming to have that interest in Gai was setting that up. So then it becomes some cliche custody war on steroids.The funny part is that only one person thinks they called it or it that was a unique observation.
>>24003928I would say that committing to killing all the ten braves and in such a gruesome way was a bigger twist for me. I expected them to die sacrificing themselves for a big battle or buy time but they were all just destroyed like chumps.Well the main 4 troopers are such jobbers that I have no idea what they are even doing there.
>>24003993Just wait if the originals job too so the crests are passed on to the new ones in some last ditch power up and "Go defeat them where we couldn't".
>>24003992>The funny part is that only one person thinks they called it or it that was a unique observation.Ledditors. Not even once
>>24003993Literally everyone except the main character and villain is weak af. None of them contribute to anything in fights. Precure girls do more damage than these guys
>>24004000>>24003999Let's see what other "untwists" can be called before episode 22's preview or airing, or better yet the final two. Maybe-reset or kill everyone endings, sure, but what else.
>>24004020Gai becomes god and restores every dead character back to life. Or Gai ascends to a higher plane of existence and watches over everyone. Or everyone is reborn as normal humans and live normal lives
>>24004027>Gai and the others become the kids of the uncs >Cliche but makes more sense than them going back in time to become the ancestors of them
>>24004028>makes more sense than them going back in time to become the ancestors of themRekka lady shakes her fist at you
Thought: Do you think they'll wind up giving the old Trooper fans the guys' lore between old and new in something outside this show, but it's just more contrived angst or vagueness for the sake of it?Putting on the Muto thinking cap:1. Seiji never got to marry so he grew out his hair as a mark of his celibacy, only being able to cut such hair if he were to ever find the ONE. But this just makes him look like a weird old guy with overly long hair and many women are still below his standard to marry into the Date dojo.2. Touma has the glasses because his eyes are going bad from his high blood sugar but he just can't stop, won't stop. His soul patch may look cringe but his facial hair used to be more out of control until his wife made him shave, then divorced him and took the house while he was missing.3. Shuu is on chemo but it's making his hair fall out and his muscles waste so he covered up with the headwrap and the leggings and that jacket so no normies would go blind from the sun reflecting his baldness, but also no one ever would see his loose skin on those skinny old man arms.4. Shin got laryngitis from his pack a day habit and his drinking to cope with everything, there is also a rumor he screamed too loud in a night of passion with a certain other person and that was when he truly became a man.5. Ryo, uh wait, you've already seen enough of him people. We don't need to tell you more about him, he was Yamato's hero and got possessed by Ramaga. We won't tell you if Luna ever happened.
>>24004027Or Gai just dies along with every celestial people. This time for good.But I wonder if they completely destroyed the demon world.
>>24004504So far Muto has deleted several things from the OG: The youja world, Byakuen (or most of his involvement), Nasti and Jun's reputations, the warlords and Kayura, the OVAs, the fans' goodwill
>>24004570Wait, this anime didn’t acknowledge the netherworld saga & only the first half? I know the ova’s weren’t acknowledged either but that’s an especially odd decision
>>24004578It acknowledged Arago and his defeat. But in the first episode, Kayura, monk Shuten, and the warlords involvement is omitted.
>>24004592Omitted when Arago's defeat was recounted in the first episode, I mean
>>24004570Predicting Byakuen's going to show up for a heroic sacrifice against Inmei or something and we get that retcon the wiki gods predict about the two being meant to be one.
>>24004578But what if Arago ate the warlords and never spit them back out in this world, and they all died when he got defeated. Like Muto read the manga or something.
Anyone else think that Gai isn't the only child of Sagume's? Or from the divine world? What if the other troopers are from there too? I think someone pointed out the baby could be Ryusei too and other babies might shown later. Where did the first names even cole from anyway?
>>24005084Then Sagume and Ramaga are basically Mitsumasa Kido.
>>24005133The troopers did all come from the same orphanage after all. The same one run by a monk who was presumably guided by Sagume just like Jun.
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>>24005197The amount of Shubros or sisters who would care about that is sadly nil, they seem happy to just see him. Then again, Tomohiro Nishimura is starting to get clowned on as much as Nozomu Sasaki for sounding old.
>>24005209>Tomohiro Nishimura is starting to get clowned on as much as Nozomu Sasaki for sounding old.Is Takeshi Kusao getting the same or higher amount of treatment from this?
>>24005212Kusao still seems to be the most lauded at least from what I've seen, mileage may vary. He's lucky to be Ryo I guess, and his character to have been a little more involved in things.
>>24005214It's probably also because his voice hasn't changed as much compared to the other two. He still sounds steady and not in his 60s
>>24005212I don't think people dislike his current performance. There was that recent Keroro movie and I saw people complaining about Jouji Nakata and Etsuko Kozakura sounding off, but no complaints about Dororo, who is voiced by Takeshi Kusao.
>>24005216>>24005217Yeah, there are some voice actors that still manage to sound recognizable or keep a "strong" voice even in older age. Meanwhile, even if some guy like Hiroshi Takemura had been open to returning or they'd even considered him, fans were already concerned with how his voice sounded in MESSAGE (which he had be convinced to sign on for) and then that Langrisser collaboration.
>>24005197I wonder if there's a way to do an edit, but then you have to account for all the yellow glow to color shift too hmmmm
>>24004504>But I wonder if they completely destroyed the demon world.They didn't. At best, they just destroyed Ramaga's castle. Inmei used the same attack on earth and he didn't destroy shit.>>24005084>Anyone else think that Gai isn't the only child of Sagume's? Or from the divine world?No. I mean they already said that Sagume is Human, so she isn't from there.>>24005197>>24005245>I wonder if there's a way to do an editThere is. Pic related.> but then you have to account for all the yellow glow to color shift too hmmmmYou do, but it turned out surprisingly easy. Honestly, it really helped that the shit was mostly black and white the only color being the jacket and the flower petals.
>>24005310>No. I mean they already said that Sagume is Human, so she isn't from there.She USED to be. But now that she lives in the divine world, she's considered from there. Nobody likes an "Um ackshually!" guy.
>>24005317This encapsulates the immigration debate. When does someone stop being an immigrant and start being considered a member of their new country? Deep questions are being asked by the Samurai Troopers staff.
>>24005317>She USED to beI don't think anything pointed to her never ceasing to be. She's probably been kept alive in the Divine World for similar reasons why the Masho and Kayura stayed alive for centuries in the Yoja World.>Nobody likes an "Um ackshually!" guy.I will ALWAYS be that guy. That is the sacrifice that is demanded of me.
>Rekka Alexiel actually posted that, following a discussion with a friend, Season 3 may already be in preparation. I honestly think Sunrise and Bandai Namco were caught a little off guard by how successful the sequel has been.Are we living in alternate realities? Because it feels like it.
>>24005310>Sagume funnels away a bunch of kids to the orphanage>Gai and the First Names were already corrupted by Ramaga or something so sucks to be them>All connected by their odd hair except Yamato until he dyes it, or Ryusei except when green lighting makes it green
>>24005380One fujoshi is joking that Muto might leave us with a cliffhanger/wide open/unresolved ending in hopes for ratings and sales to lift it, and drew a parody of Otoko Zaka's ending with Gai. It'd be scary if that weren't far off.
>>24005310Looks good! I know there's a lot about color theory and balance with designs, though they could've had the wrap be yellow like his old headband and the colored part of the jacket being a burnt orange.Maybe it would've been too bold for headwear or maybe they needed more contrast against the shirt, who knows though.
>>24005386Well that would be a stupid plan anyway. Would Muto really risk pissing off his employer like that? And I don't believe that cookie redditor or Rekka lady's claims about a season 3. Seems like cope.
>>24005393It would be stupid, but so far we've seen a lot of questionable decisions. Hopefully, or copefully, whatever we get will be a little less stupid. Hard, I know. The kekkit isn't one for enlightening theories either.
Looks like Kayura and the warlords do in fact exist and are still in the same universe. The catch? They all fucked off to another country to deal with other gods. The OVAs are still canon too apparently. Just pointless now since Suzunagi's armor were useless and had to be replaced.https://www.samurai-trooper.net/news/detail.php?id=24338
>>24005539The show takes place in 2024. That's the date that was stated in the leaks which means Sunrise only started serious development of the show by then
>>24005539Feels like canon welding if you ask me, are the details post 1990 brand new? If so seems like odd that the original armors kinda come back out of nowhere when they were definitively destroyed taking out the last of arago’s remnants
>>24005620I thought the original armors were destroyed to destroy the Black Inferno, or at least supress that and be one with the White Inferno?
>>24005620Canon welding is a good way to describe it. Everything after 1990 is brand new, yes. They basically said Ryo, Touma, Seiji, Shu and Shin stopped being depressed. And then they got their exact same armors back
>>24005539Jun continues being a loser. Can't wear any kind of armor it seems.
>>24005629It just undoes the OVA’s just for the sake of letting the new tv series happen, Suzunagi’s armors being more humble looking was symbolism of the guys moving on from the old ones to something more pure, there was absolutely no reason to bringing back the old armors.
>>24005636Honestly, it would have been better had they straight up just ignored the OVAs. Because this is no different. Probably even worse, since the events happened, but didn't matter in the end
>>24005650At this point depending on what happens, the new show could end up being fanon discontinuity like how old fans viewed the last ova’s, how the tables have turned
>>24005656To be fair, killing off literally everyone will put a bad taste in people's mouths, even those who never even saw the original series. Still, felt like damage control to ensure the Dark Warlords are still fine. Low-key, if the manga gave Kayura a completely original Virtue that not even Sasuke got, I'd retcon that Courage would be her new Virtue post-series, especially since that was what Kenbukyo should have had during early development of the original show.
>>24005660My post was originally gonna mention on how this was some form of damage control but went against it but looks like you already bought that up. Hopefully it ends well that the fans could be forgiven
>>24005660Who said anything about killing off anyone? Nobody died in Message. That's a misconception popularized by people like the mezu
>>24005656That's already happening. I do find it amusing though, that after people started discounting the new show from canon, Sunrise made sure to release this timeline as if to say 'oh no you don't'
>>24005539>>24005690>OVAs still canon, Suzunagi armors canon but uselessXMezu half vindicated, but probably salty the five samurai have not died and ascended to Buddha sainthood like she pushes on Lamebook.
>>24005715TFW it’s later revealed in a new episodes that regaining the original armors is how Ramaga came to be Im just pulling this out of my ass because I actually haven’t watched the new show & only the originals
>>24005631Now that we're in the end stretches, a dissonant Muto comedy scene of Jun being a fatty but trying to put on that armor would be incredibly inappropriate but makes you wonder if he'd still do it.
>>24005867If I read right, there are several newly introduced armors in that time line:>the ones Kayura made for herself and the warlords based on Suzunagi's that she for some reason can reverse engineer>the violet inferno armor unlocked by Mabira that is a combination of Kayura's new armors>the man made prototype worn by Jun developed by Nasti and Ryo based on Kayura's new armors>the prototype developed by Garyuto, Ramaga's first meat puppet, also based on Kayura's >the armors made by Ramaga based on Garyuto's prototypes, which in turn are based on the prototype Nasti and Ryo developed, WHICH in turn are based on Kayura's new armors>Shion's armors which are probably based on Kayura's as well, used by the current troopers
>>24005904And Jun's armor was stolen, so you wonder where it wound up and if we'll get that as a sudden reveal during a finale loredrop.
https://twitter.com/samuraitroo_pr/status/2095451737486487734
>>24005904Oh right, and there are multiple imitations of the original three treasures (inferno, jewel of life, swords of forever) that were made and scattered all over the world in the 3rd century. So I guess there are dozens of these things lying around potentially being able to awaken some new powerful armor. If Sunrise wants to expand the verse, they could make the troopers go on an international treasure hunt.
>>24005910Jun's prototype was stolen by Garyuto, who ended up possessed by Ramaga. So Ramaga just used his host's knowledge of that armor to make the Braves armor.
>>24005914This timeline seems made to set up all sorts of merchandise and spinoff appeal>New toy kits for all these new armors>Light novels dealing with the 90s to 2000s?>Potential midquel OAVs with the new Seiji and Touma voices except would Nishimura and Sasaki sound feasible enough for their guys?>Failing OAVs, theatrical movie?But the real question is if this show has done well enough to warrant all that, and it feels unlikely.
>>24005918Got it. All this new armor lore being spammed is a lot.
>>24005922The more ambitious a project is, the higher the likelihood of failing. This small start with the sequel is already losing steam.
90s took his jawline, the aughts took his and Ryou's melanin. What's next for our men.
>>24005914>I'm kinda thinking... the 4 Beast Warriors are fragments of Yatogojin's sealed powers (ie. their respective crystals) while Gai is actually Yatogojin's reborn "soul" in human form."What if Gai becomes dragon"
>>24005539>Looks like Kayura and the warlords do in fact exist and are still in the same universe. The catch? They all fucked off to another country to deal with other gods.Honestly, I don't hate this. At least we now have an explanation as to why the Demon Generals aren't around. Though I would've preferred we got it IN the show instead.>>24005625>I thought the original armors were destroyed to destroy the Black InfernoI honestly never got that impression from watching that OVA. It's not like the armors combine to become the Kikotei. They just lend their energies to summon it. And given that the armors' energies exist in their own world, I just don't buy it. Also, we saw Seiji interact with the Korin armor in Message. So he couldn't have done that if it was gone.
>>24006158They're not mentioned after 1998 though, so you have to wonder if they're still fighting evil elsewhere or got Poochied offscreen.Maybe they'll show up late after everything's said and done.
>>24006172Well, thing is that the Yoja world is probably as big, or bigger, than Earth. It's not exactly subject to the same laws of reality as Earth is so theoretically it could be a limitless landmass as opposed to planets in the living plane of existence. So Kauyra and the Masho could possibly take as long as it would for normal folk to cross country here on Earth. And also, yeah, they probably could still be fighting. But that also could just show how badass they are that the new guys are struggling against wannabe deieties whereas Kayura and the Masho are straight up going toe to toe with actual gods.
>>24005863No, no, I mean, Shinden is probably trying to turn the entire show into one, killing all of the cast members out of sheer spite from either the writer, director, or both. Basically insulting the original show at the same time.
>>24005955And to be honest, this was because Muto felt like insulting the show to hell and back, which explains how the characters are half-baked all the time and then steaked immediately after. And they might go after the old guard once everything is said and done.
>>24006024Rekka lady WILL join the cult of dragoon
>>24006207The og characters probably won't be killed off or anything like that. Just humiliated more like. It already happened with Jun and Nasti. Once they start being used for cheap gags, I wonder if the fangirls will start denouncing the show
Did Muto actually write this timeline? Or was it the suits that laid it out? I doubt Muto would go beyond writing for one show he was hired for. If he did write it, be prepared for even more sub par writing if we get more shows
>>24006286It has to be the suits. Maybe even they're pissed off with what he's doing squandering the legacy of Samurai Troopers.
Another thing, I think the weapon switch for Musashi and Yamato are indeed based on Bagani, where their counterparts wield similar weapons (Musashi wields twin daggers and a shield instead of Shin's jumonji yari, and Yamato wields a halberd instead of Shu's sansetsukon). Keep in mind, the armor designers are still the same after more than 30 years.
The Sunrise 50th anniversary artwork of Ryo.https://twitter.com/SUNRISE_web/status/2095708433034907847
>>24006452KEK so they CAN use the old art style
>>24006299The timeline in the old days was written by Koichi Inoue and Yoshie Kawahara, who headed up the planning room at Sunrise. They left in 2010, so if this isn't just Muto's handiwork, then it's by whoever's above him in the chain there now.
>>24004052Welp, Kikoutei Densetsu and Message happened but Gaiden and Luna still ignored like always. F for Luna.
>>24006496I wonder who the guy mimicking Shioyama is these days. There was an artist they used for an earlier collaboration who drew the five more modern, though for whatever reason this year they went with Ken Mizuki's art being cel-shaded.
>>24006514Yes, there we go, with that newer Troopers art. Shioyama himself did some more modern versions in 2011 for the Armor Plus line. Was cool to track his style evolving, but Shin looked like a genderbend of Coconna from Armored Trooper Votoms.
>>24005539can someone post and translate the timeline of this?
>>24006562We could, or you could just do what everyone else did and just run the url through google translate and read it yourself.
>>24006562Rekka lady did if you want to compare and see if she got it right or wrong>inb4 wiki anon claims they already have it on the wiki. do you anon, well,get on putting it there then
If Rajura spread his seed in the human world and Seiun was born around the time Shion and Ryusei were, she could theoretically be his illegitimate daughter. Otherwise, she's a descendant of one of his relatives since it'd be weird for only him to have a kid and none of the others.
>>24005236>fans were already concerned with how his voice sounded in MESSAGE (which he had be convinced to sign on for)Takemura's voice was crapping out in the early 90s of all things?
>>24006577I mean, it wouldn't be that weird. The only thing where it'd be weird would be that if he had a kid they'd be going by his clan's name when he kinda left his clan to run a ninja troupe before being recruited by Arago.
>>24006578That's what some feel, especially by Gundam X, but he continued voice acting for many years after and even reprised Bartz in Vifam 13. He seemed stop doing new TV roles around 2010 and OVAs in 2018, but continued his Sazae-san role up to 2023.
>>24006584Yeah, just realized that. Well, at least it's not the theory that the idol girls are him and the other guys in disguise that was getting brought up here threads ago?
>>24006588>Well, at least it's not the theory that the idol girls are him and the other guys in disguise that was getting brought up here threads ago?That was the kind of pants on head retardation as that anon who thought there was gonna be a timeline reset at the end of season 1. And with the anon who thought the idols were the Masho, we had to constantly remind him that it couldn't be them because that wasn't how Rajura's illusions worked.
>>24006575She also used MTL. Pretty much all her translations are Google Translate
>>24006577I think it's weird that they made a character with the same clan name as him but killed her off before the show even started
>>24006595Fucking kek, of course she would.
>>24006597The timeline on the website doesn't acknowledge the generals' human names, so it can be questioned whether or not Muto himself was aware of their clans being Koma, Kuroda, Yamanouchi, and Sasaki. A lot of it is copypasta from one of the books that was made before those names were decided, so.
>>24006601"What? Rajura's name was Kuroda? Well shit I made a chick from that clan. Guess I'll have to write her out,"
>>24006609Real question is if she, Shun, and Tadayoshi were all of that orphanage too.
>>24006601Funnyly enough, this timeline on the website finally gives the Demon Generals' armors official names like the Troopers' armors (Rekka, Korin, Kongo, Suiko and Tenku) do outside of Arago's influence. Shuten's Oni armor is actually the Kiriki (Might) armor, Anubis' darkness armor is actually the Shikoku (Jet Black) armor, Naaza's poison armor is actually the Yakushi (Healing) armor and Rajura's illusion armor is actually the Mugen (Fantasy) armor.
>>24006621Well, at least they remembered those. Now they just have to include the bit about how Kenbukyo would've been the Gijutsu (Technique) armor with the courage virtue, and you got all 10 represented.
>>24006623I mean... no? Kenbukyo was a demon. Demons don't have human virtues. And his armor had nothing to do with Arago. Human virtues being introduced to a Demon is a big part in how Arago was killed. Just because Kenbukyo was less of a dick than other demons we've seen doesn't mean he wasn't a shitbag by nature of being a demon.
>>24006629>Just because Kenbukyo was less of a dick than other demons we've seen doesn't mean he wasn't a shitbag by nature of being a demon.If the new show is anything to go by, Muto seems to want us all to know that demons aren't inherently evil. There was that scene in the demon village where the troopers go "Evil is just a matter of perspective,"
>>24006629didn't the timeline had it that there was actually a 10th armor, but the head of it was possessed by Arago or something, if so what would of been its representation?
>>24006637Soldiers of Doom are just Human spirits trapped in suits of armor. When the Jiryoshu created them, they were just extensions of Arago's will. Without Arago there they gained individual thought over the decades since his death. They're not Demons.>>24006638>didn't the timeline had it that there was actually a 10th armorNo, Arago's helmet was meant to be a 10th armor, but Arago seized it before Kaos could reforge it. Thus why we only see him appear as a floating head in the 1st half of Yoroiden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxHPHFAmb4gRyusei and Shion duet of this never
>>24006640Alright XMezu. Let's get you to bed
>>24006644>Alright XMezu.It said it on the timeline that Arago took the helmet. Don't accuse me of being that headcanon bitch.
>>24006645Alright, Christina. Let's get you to bed
>>24006648>Alright, ChristinaWho the fuck even is that one?
>>24006644Still waiting for that edit war or showdown between her and the goddess of Rekka.
>>24006649Doesn't matter if you're the Mezu or not. If you act like a Mezu, you WILL be called one
>>24006654I'm not acting like her though. I was asked a question and gave an answer. In no way does that make me like them any more than you or whoever else is posting in this thread. You're just starting this fandom bullshit up for no reason. Get the fuck out of the thread.
>>24006650The greatest showdown in the history of Jap kind. Two middle aged white weaboo women dueling on their keyboards over who is THE goddess of Sam Light Loopers
>>24006656Sir this is a wendys
>>24006629Memorials says he was the only demon to be born virtuous, and that he would've been the 10th had things gone differently. It's been discussed a bunch on JPtwt after Sasuke got the "yu" symbol. There's some more recent talk related to the timeline over it.https://x.com/haughtydog/status/2095525841874940110
>>24006621I think old magazine scans like Animate might have shown the names of these armors long before the timeline post on Tweet-X did.
>Back then, I couldn't fully take in the content of the Message, so in a way, I was glad to see in the modern day that Ryo and the others were donning armor and summoning Kikoutei Since it seems there are various color variations, I'm curious to know what they mean >I didn't know that Kikoutei comes in various colors, huh (・o・)>The events that happened in 1998 on the timeline were packed with power words, and I thought they really should be turned into a visual adaptation Excerpts of those with great hope
>>24006595here is a link to a translated version of the timeline.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f83McRGgA3NGoyxF8SyNFXCGqRw71VnMtU6NppokeQg/edit?gid=2024662933#gid=2024662933&range=A1
>>24006690They release a pinup of a Nasti who's still young enough, then drop all this lore on the website before ep22~24. Bit late for all the bait but maybe they think it'll help get more otaku.
>>24006664The Daijiten was the first thing that had the true names, and their abilities if those with pure hearts used them. Memorials suggests the armors' appearances were corrupted by Arago which differs to the show flashbacks showing them always looking that way.
>>24006695They really shouldn't have killed off Mirei and gone out of their way to make an explanation of why she couldn't be brought back to life when Ryusei's death was completely erased.
>>24006722Plot twist: we'll learn Mirei was some kind of holy plant that watches over the boys in various forms, whether as the sexy girl or that Zabiru. She tries to help as the heroine but dies again.
Apparently, Shion's armor is officially called Seito 星斗 which means starlight or stardust. We still don't know if it's an armor specifically for his cosmo element or a tenkuu based one for when he was possibly filling in the sky trooper role. Muto also thinks he's slick calling it Seito. That's one of the three territories that Japan was split into in Build
>>24006657Rekka alexiel is starting to be passive aggressive to the japs because they don't like the timeline shit. She's starting to mold into the next goddess
>>24006786Banrise should've foreseen that the old /m/en and fujos on their end wouldn't be sated just with that. They need more answers compared to the amerifat who insists she is the truest believer.
Got some samples of the timeline crit that has the someone steamed up that anyone would question Muto's brilliance>"Um...It feels kinda off to explain all the parts that couldn't be fully covered in the anime right here...And making us think it's a sequel from the TV finale, only to forcibly connect it from the OVA—that feels off too...At this point, it's basically a parallel world, or rather a completely different work...I was watching it thinking it was a parallel world branching off from the TV finale, but probably from the original series onward, it's already different...">"The original Yoroiden has been changed, hasn't it? This timeline It feels like they've been hiding the fact that the true sequel isn't a continuation of Yoroiden, but a sequel to a new interpretation remake...">"I wanted to say this after watching the Shinden all the way to the end, but like, the stuff that should've been revealed in the main story, you just summed it all up in this one timeline— The connection from Yoroiden to Yoroishinden, this is the absolutely essential part for claiming it's a "legit sequel," right here— I think it's better than leaving it unrevealed and calling it quits, but is this really the answer?">"I'd rather have wanted an anime adaptation set in 1998 like this one.">"Huh, what is this...A worldview where things like the Suzunagi armor exist? Now, all of a sudden??? I don't get the meaning."Some JPtwt users had resigned themselves to believing the OVAs were no longer canon because of what Kawahara had stated about them being divisive, and the "shin" kanji being for "true" as if it were the true, legit sequel. Now they have to contend with this drop.
>>24007204Theory on what the 1998 part means but it may be giving Sunrise too much credit post-Message when they wanted to move things to Kayura mentoring a new gen of kids. Maybe it was one of the different later sequel proposals turned down:>"It feels like the biggest mysteries of Yoroishinden Samurai Troopers, the "Absent Kayura and Demon Generals Issue" and the "Ten Braves Armor Gear Usage Issue," are explained by fabricating the past in that way. The 1998 Mabira Incident was probably an originally planned project that was reworked to connect to Yoroishinden Samurai Troopers, right? I suspect it might have been the original draft for a new Yoroiden OVA in case Message got a good reception. What I'm wondering about in the 1998 timeline is, who are the "4 people in crisis"? Probably the original story was that Kayura-tachi came to help Ryo and the others in crisis, but Mabira stole their armors (original), triggering the Purple Kikoutei activation, so Ryo and the others also activated Kikoutei, something like that. Kayura-tachi making new armors and heading off to deal with another country—that's the modified part, or so I speculate."
Even if Gai saves the world while it's still 2024 in their world, they better watch out for the year 2028 if youja are still around.
>>24006729>Apparently, Shion's armor is officially called Seito 星斗 which means starlight or stardust. We still don't know if it's an armor specifically for his cosmo element or a tenkuu based one for when he was possibly filling in the sky trooper roleI think it's pretty obvious that it's the latter. As far as elements go, he's basically like a O blood type, so it looks to me they just put him in the wind element armor gear to maintain the element pattern.
>>24006693>They are unable to don Suzunagi's armor. Kayura and the others, wearing armor they've never seen before, save the Troopers in danger and make the demon retreat. These new armors were developed by Kayura and the others, inspired by Suzunagi's armor.>Upon learning that Mabira, who had seized the four armors belonging to Kayura and the others, was attempting to resurrect the Purple Kikoutei and invade the human world, Ryo and his companions resolved their feelings regarding their armor and successfully summoned the Kikoutei. Regaining its true power, they repelled Mabira.>After that, Kayura and the others set out to deal with the situation in another land that had caused Mabira to appear."So, am I misinterpreting this or is this basically saying this Mabira guy stole the armors that Kayura made and so now they're tooling around in the Kaos gears again? Or did he steal the Kaos gears and they're using her new ones?
>>24007348Mabira stole the original Oni, Poison, Illusion, and Darkness armors so Kayura had to make new armors for her group.The Troopers managed to summon the Kikoutei again, but whether this was with the Suzunagi armors or they somehow regained their true ones is up for debate among the translators. A year after that though, Nasti has started to make the manmade armors based off Kayura's tech. Kayura left blueprints?
Common nitpicks so far from jpn or ones wanting these things seen or explained:- Purple Kikoutei armor? Wasn't Black Kikoutei already the polar opposite, with Kokuen involved in that plot?- Why is Kenbukyou not acknowledged as the would-be "yu" holder, when that was said in later books?- Now where are Kayura-tachi, will they show up late to the party (and get killed by Ramaga)?
>>24007363>Mabira stole the original Oni, Poison, Illusion, and Darkness armors so Kayura had to make new armors for her group.Here's hoping her versions of the Demon Generals' armor gears look cool like the Suzanagi armor gears do.>>24007372>Purple Kikoutei armor? Wasn't Black Kikoutei already the polar opposite, with Kokuen involved in that plot?Evidently it seems there's more than one kinds of Kikotei. I suspect this may be made in trying to explain/justify the Haotei in that it's also just another flavor of Kikotei.>Why is Kenbukyou not acknowledged as the would-be "yu" holder, when that was said in later books?Because that was an idea they had when they were developing him that got scrapped before his episodes were produced. At least that was my interpretation.> Now where are Kayura-tachi,Somewhere else in the Yoja World hunting Mabira and doing battle with gods.>will they show up late to the party (and get killed by Ramaga)?I'd rather they show up late to help save the day. But I'm not counting on their appearing at all.
>>24007395Same here with what you predict and expect. Best to keep the expectations low to nil and be surprised if there's any more Muto tweests.
Three episodes left.
>>24006658Looks like a Hum Burger to me
>>24007204Most of the japanese guys aren't satisfied with all this lore dump and are already considering the sequel a parallel world. One of them even said their encyclopedia had the statement "if you don't feel satisfied with the events, you may ignore them". That person didn't say which encyclopedia said this but I suspect it's the daijiten
>>24007395>Evidently it seems there's more than one kinds of Kikotei. I suspect this may be made in trying to explain/justify the Haotei in that it's also just another flavor of Kikotei.That would mean Ramaga had the kikoutei in his reach but never tried summoning it together with the haoutei. It's weird he would just ignore another armor. He's from the divine world, he should know what the kikoutei is
>>24007499Yeah that's what I found, and what a certain influencer is trying to invalidate. That would be the Daijiten, it's memetic for having the disclaimer that "what each fan feels is correct is correct" and that's why the staff didn't reveal what would happen to the boys post-show in it or who the two hands high-fiving in Samurai Heart are.
>>24007505Well that makes things a lot easier then. The xeet that announced the timeline said something like "check out the events of the world Gai and his friends live in," and I'm wondering if we can take that to mean this timeline is set in a different world where Gai and the new troopers exist.
>>24007509Heh, whatever works. What does make the one fan comment about feeling YSST is a sequel to a remake of YST (rather than the actual OG) real funny is that the certain someone has been trying to push that as the final twist, now that "Gai and the rest will become the Trooper ancestors" theory lost steam. >Gai resets everything and we start again from Arago invading Shinjuku but in modern animation, and with new voice actors for Ryo and company. But, wouldn't math with Kusao saying he wants Ishibashi to take the reins. Unless she thinks Sunrise would risk things with fans by casting him as a new Ryo, they've already risked enough.
>>24007512Forgot to add that this isn't when the more standard "Gai sacrifices himself to save everyone but oops he's saved too and Ryo is daddy" theory is put out. Which may or may not be the case, depending on if Muto tossed out the Sanada adoption angle or we only get that told in a flashback where Ryo made sure to add Gai to his family register.
>>24007512I mean, Sunrise COULD do this if they feel this sequel was an abject failure and don't want to deal with any more follow ups. Just say the world got reset and start with a clean state next time (if there even is a next time).
>>24007519But they probably wouldn't use Ishibashi as the voice of a remake Ryo. Since he's already known as Gai. Actually, I'm wondering if any of the voice actors for the new troopers even enjoy being in this show. We've got three big ones (Enoki, Takeuchi, and Murase) who have way more popular roles so they don't need to return if they don't want to.
bullshitting why OAV1/Gaiden's not on new timeline, makes sense as anything else there:>Ryo cremated Luna so they'd avoid police investigating an unsolved murder>The five, Nasty, and Jun swore to never talk of this event again to not be traumatized and to move on and maybe have a better do-ever vacation yay>Unfortunately disposing Luna caused more trauma, making them unable to see or smell BBQ meat the same way again>This explains their continued low bishonen BMI>They still do not talk about Luna and have never gone back to NYC or LA
>Arago chooses to become an Asura by possessing a child born on a battlefield littered with corpses in the human world. His subordinate, Badamon, the leader of the Earth Spirits, steals the "Armor of the Shining Emperor," one of the gods' armors, and seals away the power of nature. Arago fuses with the Armor of the Shining Emperor, which is presented to him, and establishes his position as the Demon Emperor Arago.What the fuck. Arago became an ashura by possessing a child? He didn't turn into a youja later on? And the kikoutei is only ONE OF the armors from the divine world?
>>24007589Yeah that doesn't track with everything before saying that Arago was a man who became corrupted by his growing sadism and the youja world taking advantage of that to fully transform him. Guess they needed to establish youja emperors are resentment that has to wear a meat suit.
Alterations made to Daijiten timeline:>"Heian period" with retcons to Arago and the Kikoutei added>Further lore about the armor names, virtues, and Kaos' position added to year 990>This footnote removed: "Arago's power increased by absorbing the resentment of the people of the Sengoku period. That is why Kaos had to exert all his strength to seal away the demonic power.">Footnotes about the Demon Generals' aging and their recruitment removed.>Nasty Yagyu is no longer born in France, but now in Kanagawa Prefecture>Jun's birth year fixed from 1976 to 1979>1989 now mentions Ryo and the rest became high school students, then everything from there on is new.Then for the OVAs:>Kikoutei Densetsu set in 1989, Message set in 1990 to have it continue to be "a year after Kikoutei Densetsu"
What do books from during the show say about that Demon Emperor? There's a bit:>Animedia, March 1989: "Arago is regarded as an entity formed when the lingering spirit of an ordinary warlord was absorbed by—and subsequently absorbed—other spirits within the Youja World, thereby growing into a massive (and malevolent) being.”>The Daijiten about his armor: "Arago's armor is an artifact created by Badamon—leader of the Earth Spirits—who sealed within it the nine elemental forces of the natural world and presented it as a tribute to Arago. Its power is said to rival that of the Kikoutei. As a reward for presenting this armor, Badamon and the Earth Spirits were granted the gift of eternal life! “>Memorials 2: "The Heian period (794 AD – 1185 AD). In the Heian period of Japan, far from the capital city, there is a battlefield where evil spirits are there and are spreading out across the land. A boy was born there, listening to the voices of the dying and watching people die. A traveling monk took in this little boy and named him 'Arago'. For the first time, this boy realized that he was a human being. Unfortunately, one day, the monk disappeared from his life. The boy was left on the battlefield again. He abandoned his humanity in order to survive and gained the strength to control the battlefield. Arago attempted to summon the powers and spirits of the Youja World to gain evil powers and incredible strength. However, before he could fully summon the Youja World’s forces, Kaos appeared before him. As Arago's physical time was over (he died), his body was taken into the Youja World. There he amassed more evil power. Later, while Kaos was away and not protecting his clan, Arago's soldiers invaded and slaughtered almost all of the Kaos clan except for one little girl. Arago did this to prepare for his next invasion of the Human World.”
The Daijiten has these official English spellings for characters.>Shu Layfang >Nasty Yagyu >Shutendouji>Nāza>Rajyura>Anubisu>KaosuMy understanding is a lot of USA English speakers don't want to use "Nasty" but they use "Anubisu" going back to old fandom rules and translator preferences to help separate him from Shuten's dub name being "Anubis". There's debates on if to put the monk as "Kaosu" or "Kaos", as his name may have been inspired by the Greek word as much as Anubis' was by Egyptian.
>>24007322There are some Japanese fans who tried brightening and restoring color to that screenshot and it came out purple. So, I'm not so sure. Might be Sunrise trying to introduce another element or tie Shion into some late stage twist.
>>24007702Would be breaking the 2 blue guys cycle a bit, unless they show us a color model of his design on the website and show if it's indigo or purple.
>>24007513>depending on if Muto tossed out the Sanada adoption angleHilarious that the Rekka lady thinks this leak is 100% going to come true. I don't think she knows the characters had their birth dates changed. Gai may become a sanada or not. We don't know for sure.
>>24007744Sometimes he's a Sanada, other times he's a dragon, but his true identity is Tarao Bannai.
>>24007502>That would mean Ramaga had the kikoutei in his reach but never tried summoning it together with the haoutei.The Kikotei has to be summoned by all 5 of the original troopers. A bunch of seasoned, 40 something year olds are a much tougher nut to crack than a bunch of 15 year olds he can much more easily manipulate.> It's weird he would just ignore another armor. He's from the divine world, he should know what the kikoutei isHe did know. His dialogue indicates he knew very well what it was when the OG's summoned it (pic related).
https://twitter.com/samuraitroo_pr/status/2096176513624449128Hiiro Ishibashi.
>>24008920I sincerely hope they didn't force all the voice actors to do this. This guy doesn't have a choice since he's the mc does he?
>>24007728Hopefully they don't forget about that. I found an edit by one of the fans but I don't know what color this can be classified as.
Someone noticed Fields corp as one of the show's sponsors and came up with a tinfoil hat theory about how they're involved in the show's messy writing. Isn't Fields the current owner of Tsuburaya? And the CEO said he didn't give a fuck about Ultraman? Whether this is some schizo conspiracy, it's looking likely we'll be getting pachinko sooner or later.https://x.com/nn53422/status/2095217339432321534https://x.com/nn53422/status/2095228046899032084
>>24009245Honestly, it looks blue to me. Are we sure that "cosmos" is not just what they call the air element? Lest we forget, when Kaos sent the troopers to different locations over japan early in Yoroiden, he sent Toma into fucking space.
>>24009540Shion said his element cosmos is a jack of all trades kind. That he has the "utility player" problem of being able to use any element but can't purify it enough. I have no idea if this would matter outside the true Haoutei context since Shion's problem seems to only be a thing BECAUSE they need the true Haoutei.
>>24009548>Shion said his element cosmos is a jack of all trades kind. That he has the "utility player" problem of being able to use any element but can't purify it enough.Yeah, but could that simply just be in relation to him regarding the "light" element whereas what he would've been pure in was being filled by Kaito? I think even the armor that he wears in the flashbacks is even based on the unused 90s sequel armor gear designs like the other 2nd gens were. I thought I had an image saved for the air armor gear but I guess I don't'.
>>24009558>Yeah, but could that simply just be in relation to him regarding the "light" element whereas what he would've been pure in was being filled by Kaito?I'm not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean Shion should be a sky element user but can't be because Kaito is one now?
>>24009566Yeah. Basically that "cosmos" and "sky" are the sameshit and the only difference is the translation by different translator. And that Shion would otherwise be where Kaito is but isn't because Kaito is already there. Plus Shion has more knowledge of the DST armor gears and what they can do given that he was the one who designed them in the first place so it makes sense to put him as the substitute for the light element gear.
>>24009586>Basically that "cosmos" and "sky" are the sameshit and the only difference is the translation by different translator.I'm sorry, just in case I'm not being clear, what I'm still getting is are we sure this isn't the case? Do we know if we're not making a mistake because potentially people translated the same thing differently or not?
>>24009586>Basically that "cosmos" and "sky" are the sameshit and the only difference is the translation by different translator.They aren't the same words. Kaito's element is 空 / sora which is sky, as in the actual sky. Shion's element is 六合 / rikugo which is cosmos. He even uses the term 宇宙 / uchu which means universe when describing it to Nasuti.
>>24009600Okay, then yeah it's weird that they chose to go this route. I mean, they could've just chalked it up to the artificial armor gears not being strictly governed by the same conventions as the Kaos armor gears, but whatever, I guess.
>>24009604We have a "new" virtue in courage with Sasuke. So they might have wanted to bring in more virtues and elements with this sequel. But Shion's dead so who knows if this new cosmos element will be revisited.
>>24009367Pachinko, the common cheap cash-in for continuing IPs. It wouldn't be surprising if we got one after this in a "huge important announcement".
They should of rebooted this into a yuri anime.
>>24009624>Kongo holder gets to be a big titty anime girl, rakes in the most guy fans>Model kits sell better>Profit?
Genuine question. What do we or the fans in Japan want out of this show? What would be the best thing to do after it ends? I don't think Muto will stick around, really. So he probably didn't think of any more scripts.
>>24009614>>24009624>>24009648The franchise died when Shion died, maybe even when Mirei died. Muto is intentionally ruining Samurai Troopers just to piss off Sunrise. It could only be a miracle if we ever get a full reboot of Shin Den and actually somehow treat the characters better to revive this stillborn franchise, but the damage is done.
>>24010111Idk, is Ryosuke Takahashi still up for doing anything these days? He liked to talk of wanting to do something YST again but nothing came out of that.
>>24010135Some feel Mirei was the "Luna", others feel Kaede is that in the negative sense. Cute girl meant to be the female audience but also eye candy, female audience either loves or hates her. Jury's still out on if Kaede gets to fill the last box of "dies terribly and then is irrelevant" like Luna and Mirei did.
>>24010136Maybe a reboot of the original first would've been better. Most people are interested in Ryo and the first generation, we have to be honest. Then maybe follow it up with a sequel. Not this sequel, but like >>24010135 said, a better sequel that utilises its time better. The entirety of the second season really doesn't feel important even though it should.
>>24010151Sad as it is, Musashi, Yamato, and Kaito might as well be space filler by now.
>>24010152I think each one only got about 2-3 episodes to dwell on their issues and even then they had to share it with some other plot.
>>24010135>Muto is intentionally ruining Samurai Troopers just to piss off SunriseIt does seem like he wrote his show (yes, HIS show. Not THE show) with closed eyes. But Sunrise is also to blame since they gave him the ok in the end. Could they not afford to hire better people in charge? What was the hiring process like?
>>24011294The "Gai and Ryusei are half brothers in Sagume and Ramaga's lovers war" joke threads ago may possibly be true now...
>>24011320Not even a joke. The Japanese fans were already seriously considering this theory. The thing is, Sagume/Ramaga don't act that way towards either of them. Turning it into a family feud feels really really off
>>24011323You really get the sense Muto just wrote as he went when they finally give him the greenlight. Difference is, he's one writer and series composition generally means making sure the scripts all align.
>>24011323In the leaks, Ryusei is stated to be Gai's big brother figure. So maybe it's true. But nothing has been done to build that up within the show itself
>>24011327How is it possible he was able to write so much and keep it consistent for Kamen Rider Build, that had so many more episodes but can't even write for a ridiculously short show with only 12 episodes per season?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jTyP8BoKhk
>>24011333Build was all the way back in 2017 too, before whenever he got appointed for this. Maybe they originally wanted to do something for the 30th anniversary but all kinds of delays and red tape happened.
>>24011349The new events from the timeline like the Mavira thing might have been yet another sequel idea that got shelved. There probably wasn't even any actual concept, just a random idea that was floated around. And there is a video of Hideo Okamoto at a con from 2019 explaining why no sequels has been made: the sponsors couldn't agree on an idea.
>>24011353Yeah we do know the 1992 project that the 2nd gen armors were re-used from was just one of those. Japanese fans have been wondering if the 1998 and 2008 timeline bits were other pitches that didn't land. As it stands now, it seems like each decade the youja world just spits out another emperor.
Which troopers do you think were likely to have married, or do you think Muto would be sending a message that they can never as they're "married to the job"?
>>24011354>As it stands now, it seems like each decade the youja world just spits out another emperor.While not unfounded since power vacuums are real and had been portrayed in a sense in the original show, the way the timeline explains it makes Arago's whole character a lot less threatening.
>>24011359As far as we know, only Ryo has a consistent job training new troopers. They probably won't be married since Sunrise doesn't want to incense the fangirls. This makes it almost impossible for any of the original cast to have any meaningful relation to the current one other than "sometimes teacher"
>>24011365Which makes you wonder why even being them back in the first place? The 1992 sequel manga had the og cast move on. Only Kayura remained as a guide for the new troopers
>>24011371Probably to appease the old gen and assure them "see, they're still alive"?The 1992 pitch's future plots did involve Ryoga and Ryo meeting, and Saki was Seiji's student, but who knows whether or not the other OGs would be touched upon.The Demon Generals were even going to be a new quartet led by Asura, with the implication being the other three would be new people too with different armors.
>>24011376I think Muto was already too deep into the commitment to quit but didn't know how to incorporate the different pitches and ideas. So he fell back on the only action oriented show he wrote (Build) and just took plot beats from there. Whether or not they were consistent, he didn't care and needed to submit his script on time.
>>24011392He did pretty much say he wrote cour 1 backwards from the big showdown with Ryo and the Kikoutei. So unfortunately, characters like Mirei were pretty much made to be expendable fodder unless he's got another buttpull in the final few.
>>24011395Now we have to ask: how did he write this cour? Backwards again? Did he even plan all this divine world and yatogojin stuff from the very beginning? Or only after the wrote the cour 1 script?
>>24011397Maybe we're due for another vague interview with him, closer to the finale or some shit like that.
"Hey what's up guys. Ramaga here, back with another episode of trooper hunting. As you can see behind me, I just got a bunch of troopers with my new sword!"
>>24011523Because Ramaga still has a hold on Gai's body, now the old Troopers are next in the chopping block, especially because he now has the Shield of Domination. Muto really wants to destroy the legacy of Samurai Troopers. That's why I stopped watching when it became a full-on massacre ever since Shion died.
>>24011591This is probably where the crest transfer might kick in, eh? Old men sacrifice themselves so the new ones have power-ups.
>>24011591Other anon here. I can't say if I think Muto has malicious intent, but he definitely comes across as extremely dismissive of the work that has has been tasked to take over. Unfortunately, the typical Japanese timidity will result in them not saying anything outwardly critical and he'll get away with it.
> RYOUSUKE TAKAHASHI! CANCEL YOUR NEW VOTOMS AND REBOOT THIS SAD EXCUSE OF A SEQUEL TO SAVE THIS FRANCHISE!!!Mamoru Oshii is the man you want, but don't think he'd do much better with Sam Light Loopers. If anything, he'd probably confuse people.
>>24011618Fujita being the director above him and being a self-proclaimed fan of the original but also infamously 'Anti Nostalgia' and hiring people of that mindset might have been one of the first warning signs.
>>24011627Why would a multimillion dollar corporation allow this when they know such a move could tank their earnings? That's what I keep asking myself. Samurai Troopers does not have a big fandom, nor is it currently supported by toy sales like Gundam. It was/is a gigantic risk and never ends well.
Alright, I'll admit. Inmei obliterating Sagume got a chuckle out of me. But I seriously need to know, what is UP with Muto finding a way to excuse every single horrible thing a character does? Every time their actions are brought up, an excuse will be made and the other characters just forgive/defend them.>Ryusei and the troopers tell Gai he didn't need to feel bad about the people he killed>Kaito says that Gai doesn't have to repent any longer since he's a hero>The ten braves are made to be good guys all along with their quirky cute antics making them harmless despite not fully atoning for their murders>Sagume makes excuses after Ramaga calls her out for being a bad mother, Ryusei defends her despite her saying she'd steal human souls or do ANYTHING to "save the divine world">Gai forgives Sagume and somehow feels her love, Inmei is now made a scapegoat for everything bad that happensAt this rate, I suspect Ramaga will be redeemed as well since Sagume transported him elsewhere and told him to help Gai
>>24011673Maybe they have Ramaga do some sacrifice and give some "He loved his son all along" message, so that makes Gai and everyone cry anime tears but it's okay because Gai has a new plot device daddy in Ryo, maybe.
https://twitter.com/samuraitroo_pr/status/2097339426791686585
>>24011678MOAR MODEL KITS - Sunrise
>Broke: Samurai Troopers x Sailor Moon >Woke (if you're Shogo Muto): Samurai Troopers x Kamen Rider>Bespoke: Samurai Troopers x Lime-iro Senkitan
>>24011683Is this not the same shit just with an ugly shield at the back?
>>24011691Pretty much yeah.
>>24011691Just wait for the purple recolor when Gai gets the powers of the missing Demon Generals
I hate Muto that fucking hack
Did I mention Muto's a fucking hack?
>>24011698THE OLD TROOPERS ARE IRRELEVANT AND NOT THE TRUE PROTAGS, AHMIGOD!! THIS IS GAI'S SHOW, GAIIIII'S SHOW. IF YOU WANT THESE MEN IN THEIR PRIME, WATCH THE ORIGINAL. WAAARGHHHHH.
>>24011699What a nose on Shu there
https://twitter.com/samuraitroo_pr/status/2097339425357529506
>>24011683>>24011694OG Inferno still mogs the shit out of Emperor, even on old Ryo. Can't beat the classic.
>>24011698>>24011699>>24011700Funny how Saint Seiya Omega didn't have this problem and that the new generation where equals to the originals, while the originals were proper mentors.
>>24011720Was just thinking about that. And Omega was panned by latinos because it wasn't edgy enough. It has it's problems, but it at least understood what Saint Seiya was about
>>24011618>Unfortunately, the typical Japanese timidity will result in them not saying anything outwardly critical and he'll get away with it.The copium about Shion from the japan fans is legit funny. They're all waiting for him to pop up within the last 2 episodes and if he does, they'll 'forgive' the show and see it as not so bad. Kek
https://nyaa.si/view/2158336How was the 22nd episode?
>>24011720The Rekka prophet wants to larp as a Kurumada fan but wonder if she watched it.
>>24011732She said she doesn't know much about Saint Seiya. She has a cell from B'tX but that's it. Rekka lady is in fact a larper. Again, she's your typical attention whore who needs to latch herself onto the current hot topic. It's how she latched on this show months ago as well.
>>24011727>Shion only gets a silent comeback or a memorial photo over the credits playing over scenes>Maybe the troopers go on their school trip but Shion is only there as the black framed photo being held by Ryusei>Pan up to the starry sky representing him to twist the knife in more
What if Yatogojin eats Inmei to power up
>>24011728Revealed the entire reason for all this misery on earth is due to a custody dispute. What a shitty family
>>24011733>Again, she's your typical attention whore who needs to latch herself onto the current hot topic. It's how she latched on this show months ago as well.I assume that's why she's trying so hard to force other people into liking this sequel? Every time someone has something to say, she's on the scene
>>24011720Omega was a good anime and didn't deserve the hate it got.
>>24011814Compared to this shit Omega is a masterpiece
Real talk. I havent watched this anime but I did watch the 1990s anime Ronin Warriors on TV. It was hardcore. Reminded me of like a male version of Sailor moon that appealed to boys.But Why does this new version look so bright and cheerful? Where's the gritty and dark atmosphere of the original anime? >>24003266 Why does every character look exactly the same? Same height, roughly same build, but different hair styles. Not trying to be a hater but I'm genuinely asking if this remake anime is doing well in the ratings? If it is, then I apologize. I would be very surprised if it was. It just doesn't appeal to me like the old 90s anime did. It lacks the edgy grit of the original. I'm only basing my opinion the few pictures I've seen posted in this thread.
>>24011840This new show is way edgier actually. But without substance. Ratings wise, it's not great. It doesn't have a lot of viewers either so the ratings may skew higher than it would normally be. >Same height, roughly same build, but different hair styles.They actually have different builds and heights. I'll give credit to this show, the main troopers look different from each other compared to the original. Only Shu (hard rock guy) strayed from the others in terms of design.
>>24011840The new series is a lot darker than the old one but has brighter and more cheerful art. Unfortunately, its not good, even if Season 2 is slightly better than Season 1.Disagree on the new characters all looking the same.
>>24011885>but has brighter and more cheerful art.This is probably why so many casuals are turned off by the series. The cheerful look was a mistake.
>>24011892I don't mind the cheerful look but I think people were turned off by everything else.Series tries to be smarter than it actually is, with all these hidden agendas and revelations. The sad part is that the hidden agendas and revelations could have worked if the writers were competent.
>>24011908We're just spinning in circles when it turns out everyone in the Divine and Demon Realms turn out to be originally human. This is just stupid.
>>24011768How many more bodies do you think will fall before the end? Is a spirit tiger fine too?
>>24011847I remember someone here pre-release was disappointed that Yamato looked skinny, but I guess "tall" is what they could do to differentiate him. The original five had to stay within similar height and body type parameters for the toyline, but doesn't mean they couldn't stretch things a little with Shuu. Okamoto claims now there's more freedom with the bodies, though you figure that one quiet rule is "no fatties".
>>24011908>Series tries to be smarter than it actually isThat's a good way to describe this show. It's like, we can see what you're up to Muto. We're not stupid and you're not smart. Then again, there is a subsection of the audience that will defend slop like this so maybe we're not that smart after all
>>24011885>Unfortunately, its not good, even if Season 2 is slightly better than Season 1.I think the opposite. Season 1 at least had some sort of structure and the plot beats made sense. Season 2 is where it goes off the rails and devolves into Muto's self indulgent god fetish. If the gary stu protag wasn't enough, the plot bends towards said protag's needs.
>How come Gai can use the haoutei but Ramaga can't?I don't even remember which character asked this (goes to show how unimportant the troopers have become), but to answer the poor sod, it's because Ramaga isn't Gai's real father. It's Yatogojin who's his real father. So Gai doesn't have to worry about growing up ugly or demon-like, he's a literal son of god! I don't remember Ryo getting this amount of wank or cheat code nor him being the center of every single plot point. In the og, it wasn't Ryo whose parentage was important, it was Kayura. Who isn't even in this sequel.
>>24012070All the more reason this sequel either needs a full scale reboot, or just outright never happened. If Bandai never made this sequel and just gave us the kits of the OGs, those things will fly off the shelves faster than usual, probably as fast as Gundam kits.
>>24011723>>24011814Omega would've been a 100 times less maligned without the pointlss elements and with traditional Cloths as originally designed by Umaskoshi.
>>24012102A DB Super style reset would be good. GT is now effectively not the canon future and Shinden will hopefully be the same. It will probably take many years tho.Do you think any of the Shinden characters should be brought over in a potential reboot? I don't mind Mirei, Ryusei and Shion. And we can bring in the second generation troopers too, since we didn't get to see what they were like.
>>24012121Honestly, just bring in the main five Troopers. That's it. We could do away with all the tragedy and massacre, and maybe this time they do what the cancelled manga did.
>>24012134Would you think there'd be rights issues with the original sequel pitch characters being used and that's why they went with a clean slate?
Which one of yous made a plebbit account today? Tell us what interacting with the cookie person is like will ya.
>>24012187The heronaru guy's ESL and belief that the sequel was predicted from a fan wiki makes him a strong contender for stale cookies.
Which trooper do you think would be foolish enough to try Tiktok tips like drinking lemon juice and baking soda to keep to elite Japanese body standards?
>>24012205Yamato. He would be into looksmaxxing
>>24012196Why haven't they interacted yet? Their battle will be legendary!! On a serious note, I agree with anon, please let us know what stale cookies is like. Not only are they obviously using translation software but AI tools to "write" analysis.
>>24011359>Which troopers do you think were likely to have marriedSeiji and Shin at the least. They're canonically descendants of Date Masamune and Mori Motonari. Gotta keep that bloodline going.>>24011362>the way the timeline explains it makes Arago's whole character a lot less threatening.Kinda disagree. Like, the guy had a chokehold on the Yoja world for over 1000 years. These new guys like Mabira, Garyuto and Ramaga are like petty warlords that are trying to take their shot. They tried to become the Demon Emperor that Arago was, but never reached his height.
Fujita says this is the first show he's directed that's about growth, but what growth is natural in the end and what's just Gai being boosted at the cost of the others?
>>24012248Kek did he actually say that? Can't tell if he's bullshitting for fun or he really believes that
>>24012186Not the same person you replied to. What you said is possible. Or maybe they felt the characters from that pitch were too old fashion looking so they might as well redesign all of them
>>24012274Possibly. Muto made sure to give a girl Trooper in there vs. the Okinawan boy who was to replace Shin, but Muto giveth and taketh away.
>>24012212Not just any ESL, but an autistic flip. These guys love to dive into fiction's rabbit hole, going so far as to make crossovers. Those kinds of people make my ears bleed.
>>24012209He'd have all the Tiktok clips, while someone else would troll him by putting him through a gorilla or other animal filters.
>>24012293It's a wonder they haven't tried to turn the YSTRW wiki into a "Pooh's Adventures in Sunriseland" crossover madness place.
>>24012300Don't give them any ideas
>>24012293And if you don't agree with their fanfiction, you obviously aren't media literate enough.
>>24012293There's a pretty obnoxious Thomas the Tank Engine combo Voltes V one who's spammed his Super Sentai/Anime crossover and cinematic universe ideas across different reddits and websites. You'll know him by him combining different localizations' character names together for his re-imaginings, and mixing so many ideas with his own OCs it becomes incomprehensible alphabet soup.
>>24012310No, no, think of this guy as a multiverse crossover person where he mixes literally everything into a pot just to make something work... which doesn't if it doesn't conform to specific norms like different animation styles or extreme thematic clash.
>>24012316Oh, this type of person. The deviantart draw in MS paint crossovers autist. Yeah, I see it now. I think it's hilarious how Samurai Troopers has attracted such a diverse group of fans: this kind of guy, the faux intellectuals, the catty fangirls, the goddess wannabees, the OMG AMAZING basedjacks, the dragon fetishists. Muto has really outdone himself here
>>24012252They'll say anything to try to beg fans "please, watch" at this point.
our god could never have predicted such a melting pot
>>24012330Muto saw her eyeing the warlords, said 'Not on my watch' and had them piss off all the way to a foreign country
Running theory right now is that if ep23 is "Shin (Truth kanji)" then ep24 is "Shin (New kanji)". Usually Animage spoils titles ahead of time but there's been a tight lid on information like that because of the publisher's policies to what fans can and can't post about the issues.
>>24012398Did they name the last episode that also as a snarky way to say 'Nyeehhhh this is the TRUE sequel to troopers and you can't do anything about it!'
>>24012422That's the theory for why the sequel already uses "truth" in its title except now we see everything before is technically true except the failed 1992 project (to some dismay) and who the hell knows about Gaiden.
Rekka lady, who wants people not in Japan to respect their dislike of spoilers, is now talking about the leaks because she really wants them to happen guys>Sorry, this is just a fleeting thought on one point, but I really loved Ryo's little speech at the end of the episode, where he says that although there's nothing they can do to aid the others in their fight, they CAN at least protect the world and prepare it for their return. To me, that line felt like a clue for further story developments. I'm going to talk about some major spoilers, so please DO NOT READ if you don't want to be possibly spoiled...>Sometime last year, when some production materials were leaked, we saw that Gai actually has a last name: Sanada. As you all know Gai has been the only one without an actual last name... possibly until the end of the battle, in which Ryo might open up his home to him, adopting him in a way. Considering ALL of them are orphans... it might be super cute if the remaining OG Troopers adopt the others as well. haha A happy, extended Trooper family.>Also, this isn't really a spoiler but... I'm somewhat hoping that they make some deeper connection with Kaito's grandma since she's voiced by Kayura's original voice actress. Masako Katsuki. I understand that simply having her involved on the new show is likely just giving a nod to the OG show, but... it seems like a lot of effort for something that doesn't necessarily pay off in any greater way. I think it's still possible that Granny Uesugi is holding some deeper secrets that might connect directly to Kayura and the others. haha
>>24012449Has all the cares about Ryo when he's being Daddy, but tells other fans to stfu about troopers and warlords.
Too many Shins on the dancefloor>I believe the anime was meant to release during the 35th anniversary, which would have been 2023, I believe... I'm trying to remember when my friend in the industry quietly told me a reboot was underway, but I'm pretty sure that was PRIOR to when COVID hit, because we had a sort of get-together party then... I think it was around 2019 or so? So that timeline would pan out. I'm pretty sure the intended meaning for "shin" is right there in the title: 真 (true)... but I think the double meaning could also be 心 (heart)... so I kinda think it's gonna take the combined hearts of EVERYONE to beat Inmei, all of which will lead to a new beginning, which would be another "shin" meaning: 新 (new).
>>24012449Rekka alexiel is lying again. Telling non japanese people that the show and toy sales are a great success there. Will she also tell them how she got so mad at a negative review of the Blu-ray set on Amazon Japan to the point she made a long thread "debunking" their negativity? Or how she acts when japanese fans *do* critique the show? Even in that country, the fans have acknowledge how quiet it's been since the second season started.
>>24012542as long as we're discussing fandom drama in the stagnation, who do you think would win in a fight between her, the warlord goddess, and RyoLovesMe?
>>24012571>RyoLovesMeWho's this one?
Anyone have a favorite character? For the old and new show? Mine's Seiji and Sasuke
Finished the sequel manga, I wish this was continued. It was pretty cool
>>24012817Sadly, Takara blocking the anime it was to go along with meant any further chapters of the manga were killed. We may know some more if the series planning establishment is ever released by Sunrise.
>>24012605Some bat named Brienna that's in the FB group. Things she's known for:> hating the villains, Shuu, and Jun, some might think based but others may get pissy>liking to angrily spam and flame slash fanfiction she'd hate seeing, especially any with Ryo or Touma>starting sitewide flamewars with Rise of the Guardians fans who shipped Jack Frost with Elsa>spending her adulthood in general attacking other autists on deviantART and Twatter>eventually got some crazy just as obsessed guy A-logging her in turn and her begging people to report him
>>24012982This fandom is full of lolcows. Good or bad? Nobody knows. But entertaining for sure
>>24013140I literally had no idea Samurai troopers even had such fans, I only watched the original series because one I thought it looked good, two power armor is great, three it’s sunrise the mecha anime studio. Although then again with a large Fujo fanbase there are bound to be lots of catfights.
>>24013148Reminder: the women doing this are between 40 to 60 years of age. Mostly married and have children. They're the miserable adults you usually see as villains in kid's tv shows
>>24012773Those are good choices. Like the Nyuudo brothers in the new show, wish Braves got more in general. Could stand to know a little more about Seiji or the rest these days, but who knows if that'd be worthwhile.
Demon General bros, the Anubis figure I ordered back in January finally came today!
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>>24013344It comes packaged pretty nicely. Articulate too. Lots of individual moving pieces and detachable parts. Though head articulation goes out the window once the cape fixture gets attached. But overall a really nice figure. Stands about 6 3/4 inches tall (with helmet on). Would like to have other figures, but this was damn near $300 (including tariffs).
>>24013338Glad to see an update, he looks good!
https://x.com/Akira_alva7/status/2097343556063273035Japanese staffer caused a ruckus by saying to unimpressed fans to try to stick with YSST to the end.>We in the entertainment industry hold dear the principle that our worth lies in delighting and captivating people, yet we have also etched into our very bones the understanding that satisfying everyone is no easy feat. While I am sure there are many varied sentiments out there, the staff as a whole pours our all into this from each of our respective positions, so we would be truly grateful if you could stick with Yoroishinden Samurai Troopers until the very end.One QRT:>It's pretty harsh coming from someone who worked on the first season's ED, huh? Especially since the core fanbase that loves Yoroiden is pretty much all voicing negative takes and dropping the show—that's gotta be a big factor, right? It's been over 30 years since then, so yeah, the times and mindsets have shifted with a sequel... but more than anything, with so few episodes, fans who were hoping to see the original cast in action with those gorgeous visuals probably felt totally betrayed when they saw the timeline, y'know? But still, there's no helping it. From the perspective of something as close to a god as life itself, it's just dust and merciless... and even right now in this moment, blood is being shed in actual wars and conflicts. The concepts of justice and virtue might be changing too, but the creators really did such a great job making something so original like this. It's just that the density of the gags and the timeline makes it feel disjointed and tightly packed in the writing.
>>24013160>rewrite of YSST that puts Yashima No Sagume as a middle-aged fujoshi version of Suzunagi>Ramaga is the grown-up version of the young boy audience who specifically killed Mirei because she wasn't as cute as his old waifu Nasti
>>24013391There was nothing for months. Got to a point where I thought I was scammed. Then got an email saying it was just shipped back on the 2nd. Also, I just realized I misspelled "Anubis" in the filenames.
>>24013397B-But Rekka lady said everything was great! And we're going to get a season 3!
>>24013411Season 3: Shion isekai story where he and the other lost troopers are sent through space and time to find out where the demon generals are.
>>24012982Ah, so an entitled femcel. They're pretty common, unfortunately.
Ryusei and Shion second generation armor designs. Shion's weapon is a harpoon for some reason
Yatogodragon. Ryuk decided to humor himself with humans gain
https://youtu.be/8NIs7B6FtwQ?si=AwNjwbn38cgZdS2VOkay, I'll shut up again.
>Episode 23 "Shin">Synopsis & Preview Cuts Released>Inmei, having absorbed the final crystal and reached its final form, ruthlessly stole away the precious reunion time between Kai and his mother Sagume.>Haunted by memories of his own origins and his mother's love, Kai equips the Shield of Ambition, completing the True Overlord Emperor. Inmei revives the god of destruction, Yatogojin, and the curtain rises on the final battle over the True Overlord Emperor.>Though Kai and his allies fight with all their might, just as they begin to falter before its overwhelming power, a voice reaches them from somewhere
>>24013656I swear if that voice is Shion, this show is going to lose any credibility. How many times are they going to kill off and revive a character? My guess is he'll give them words of encouragement and maybe even power them up. He has a different element than the other troopers right? So Shion comes back as a spirit battery to boost Gai's armor into becoming the ultra super true Haoutei
>>24013660The upgraded Haoutei is just the same thing with a shield added. So they probably need Shion ghost powerup armor for it to become the true Haoutei.
>>24013660Probably, unless they also throw in a ghost Mirei too for just one last reminder of her being the self proclaimed heroine. Throw in Kaito's granny for the hell of it or the orphanage guy too.
>>24013842Don't forget the Ten braves and Ramaga. Everyone's ghost will appear and give Gai the power up.
>>24013856Didn't everyone love it when it happened in ZZ Gundam?
>>24013856The ep.1 troopers briefly appear too, but nobody remembers or cares who they are. But what if the voice/s are just the old guys still on Earth giving them last minute morale boost kek.
>>24013862That would actually make their presence matter somewhat. Even Ryotaro Okiayu made a joke about how Seiji didn't even have any lines in the last episode so he didn't have to show up to work
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>>24013842>unless they also throw in a ghost Mirei too for just one last reminder of her being the self proclaimed heroineI wouldn't be surprised. I could've sworn I saw that her voice actress was credited for season 2.
>>24013940Yes, they had Lynn in the PV credits with everyone else.
>>24013660It'll probably just be Sagume.
>>24013937Why couldn't we have a sequel with the second gen characters and those armor designs? They look way better than the gundam suits we have now
>>24014122Kind of agree. The 2nd gens don't really have much of an impact on the series anyway so it might've just been better to go with them instead of the 3rd gens if only just because their armor gears look much better designed. Plus we would've got another female character out of it that doesn't look boring. Might even could've explored her potential relation to Rajura given they're very distant kinsmen.
>>24014142We can only hope of a prequel. It could even soft reboot the sequel to where the events didn't happen
>>24014122If we'd gotten the planned 90s sequel with the original second gen, the villains would've all had the ability to assume the forms of different element dragons and the dragon fetish guy would be more than satisfied.
>>24014160>We can only hope of a prequelWith the timeline that was posted, there's lots of shit they could make if they wanted. I, for one, want to see shows, or even OVAs, about the other guys, Mabira and Garyuto, who tried to become the new Demon Emperors in the void of Arago and how they got beaten. Definitely with Mabira because I want to see the Demon Generals again and to see the OG Troopers resolve their issues with the Kikotei and get their original armors back. >It could even soft reboot the sequel to where the events didn't happenI would not count on this happening.
>>24014195Mabira scenario means merch of Purple Kikoutei and the new general armors too.
>>24014195Dude I think they put up that timeline and precisely because they aren't going to show the 1998 and 2008 events. They were probably rejected when pitched the first time. Hence why it's hastily included in a timeline in a "There, Kayura tachi are alive. Stop asking us" sort of way
>>24014202That's what some of the Japanese fans are figuring, that it's only lip service to the old fans. Still isn't stopping others from coping that staff should make those projects if this does well. If this does well, it'd just probably mean more Gai.
>>24014202>Dude I think they put up that timeline and precisely because they aren't going to show the 1998 and 2008 eventsI don't doubt that. Doesn't mean I still wouldn't like to see it anyway.
>>24014207Unfortunately, Bandai shot themselves in the foot and are rolling on dominoes, LEGOs, and all other bristly objects that basically means "it's beyond saving." They want to retire Samurai Troopers for good to the point where they won't celebrate anniversaries anymore because the VAs are also bound to retire. Well, Takeshi Kusao could be fine for as long as he can, but I don't think everyone else is fine at this point.
>>24014217If the revival fails, the suits will think "See? Samurai Troopers is obsolete. The fans are at fault for not supporting it so we're going to ignore this series" When in actuality, they're the ones who hired incompetent people to be in charge of the revival. Maybe it was part of the plan; make a half assed attempt in the hopes they don't have to do more.
>>24014220"See, this is proof Gundam is our #1 profit!" and then another GQuacks happens.
I want to see people talking about the original show and characters on the reddit but there are none. Just the stale cookie spamming it with repetitive theories. Where are the pics of the sentinel or 30 Minutes figures? Does nobody over there collect them?
>>24014314It's stale cookie and show police territory all right. Even a few fujos could at least make it amusing. Or memes about the old vs new toys, how Ryo had a fat face briefly in concept art, or such and such.
>Tell us what interacting with the cookie person is like will ya.Replies with an 18-paragraph essay, 3/4ths of which has nothing to do with the original two-sentence comment they are replying to.
>>24014659Not to mention getting angry when their AI art posts are taken down due to reports and calling it bullying
>>24014691He also talks about people making false accusations about him, and seems on board with the flame emissary about calling critical show watchers "ANTIS"
>>24014708Can't wait till these glazers start eating each other alive. The minute one of their own go against the cult, stale cookies and fire emissary immediately start questioning them and turn hostile.
Happy 29th birthday to Yamato's voice actor, Shunsuke Takeuchi.
The japanese streets say Shion is supposedly dead for reals. Do you think we get his funeral in the finale, if they haven't already burned him up?
>>24014776Weren't they coping with it by saying Shion is "actually" alive or coming back?
>>24014821Maybe he gets to be the Zabiru
https://twitter.com/takeshun81/status/2098429193763864880Takeuchi's (Yamato) 29th birthday post.I have turned 29 years old. "Thank you all for your continued support. As I reach the end of my twenties, I will strive to create even better works, so I sincerely appreciate your ongoing support."
One guy speculates of other Kikoutei existing, based from prototypes Takara once showed of other armor toys they planned to make. It may be giving Muto too much credit.>"If they mention the Purple Kikoutei, then there must be a Gold and Silver Kikoutei too, right! …(*ﾟﾛﾟ)ﾊｯ!! …Wait, hold up, no way, are you seriously factoring that in too?!>The Golden Kikoutei・Raijin, the Silver Kikoutei・Fuujin. Long ago, these were part of Takara's Choudandou Campaign Phase 2. If they're taking all that into account, then the scriptwriter is truly terrifying...https://twitter.com/SamTro_G/status/2096204089596235916
>>24015193I think this could also be based on, if I remember right during the planning phases of Yoroiden, that they originally intended the Kikotei to be able to be summoned by each of the nine armor gears as a power up of whichever respective armor gear that summoned it and that the Kikotei we saw Ryo wear was basically the powered up (kikotei-d up?) version of the Rekka armor.Or was that a bunch of bullshit I read somewhere?
>>24015197There's an interview (but obviously machine translated) on the infamous wiki where a producer or someone says the other troopers would've been able to use Kikoutei if they had a fuller broadcast length, demon general versions would make sense too.
Too bad the kikoutei is only used once in the new show. Maybe one more time in the last episode.
>>24015276Could see the Kikoutei power being used to give Haoutei a boost, if they have the uncs do more than stand around in shock
>>24015287This whole show is centered on the haoutei from the very beginning. Every other armor apart from kikoutei (maybe not soon) is just used to power it up. I chalk it up to Fujita being unfortunately very uncreative with what armor can do.
>>24014511It's as if Cookie and Rekka are the only people in the sub. They are shitting up the thread without realizing they are doing so.>>24015193>>24015197>>24015233FUCK NO! That idea is so stupid, good thing they did not go through with it!Anyway, here are two shows that could join Shin Den in the dirt. Yeah, both of them got their main PVs with clearer grasp of their concepts, and are coming out on the exact same week but in different days.https://youtu.be/JqjXaJysS5w?si=ZjJbAMzGCOCyCJzQhttps://youtu.be/ihJfkOT_0wU?si=CJ1sV8gOKB8Owr7U
>>24015539>It's as if Cookie and Rekka are the only people in the sub. They are shitting up the thread without realizing they are doing so.There are a few others but they bend to cookie and rekka lady's will. I'm sensing a second goddess cult incoming. That does beg the question though, why AREN'T there any other people posting to that reddit?
>>24015548There was one that got banned for dissing the new show and invoking that others were shills if I recall. They also got hit up by one of the goddess friends asking if their translations could be used for the wiki, but then they started poking at the weird edits on the wiki.
Personally got sick of being talked at and dumped on for not liking the show.Shouldn’t have been surprised, I was in the Discord briefly and left that because they’re all fucking crazy, too.
Sorry, meant not liking the new show.
>>24015610Doesn't the Mezu not like the new show too?
The voice of Yamato.
>>24015548>That does beg the question though, why AREN'T there any other people posting to that reddit?Volunteer as tribute anon, we'll be right behind you.
Genuinely don’t know who “the Mezu” is outside of what I’ve seen said in here. I don’t see any username with that in it on the subreddit. Don’t really care, either, as I assume it’s probably another rabid middle-aged white woman who still has a crush on cartoon characters from the 80s. Only ones that stand out to me are “I think I’m better than everyone because I live in Japan” Rekka, 18-paragraph essay replies and nine posts in a row Cookie, the chick who constantly talks about how the new show affects her headcanon, and the guy who responds THIS EPISODE WAS PEAK SUGOI!!! or whatever that shit is to every single episode thread.
>>24015885>THIS EPISODE WAS PEAK SUGOI!!!Excuse me, it's peak YOROINEMA!!!11
>>24015885>the chick who constantly talks about how the new show affects her headcanonThere's at least two people in there that fit this. Do I want to know which one you're referring to?
>>24015885>Genuinely don’t know who “the Mezu” is
>>24016648Alright which one of you submitted this?
>>24013656>>24013660It heard it could be Ramaga. Top kek if it turns out to be him. Seeing everyone who thought Shion or Mirei or whatever start crying would be funny as fuck
>>24017234That would suck for then to do that TWICE. Him being in the sword was enough.
>>24017287Wouldn't it be the third time? First is when he body hopped into Gai, then the sword, and now Gai again (presumably he's still in there, Sagume just shooed him away)
>>24016770I'm really wondering who all from what sites gets up in this thread too. Think I recognize some of yous from the Reddit, and I figure at least one orf you must lurk that Discord or wherever else the goddess of Buddhism roams.
>>24017340It won't be the last time if there's a Shin Yoroishinden Samurai Troopers: Ramaga Just Won't Fucking Die
>>24017234It'd only be worth it if he pulls some cliche sacrifice to die and then take him off the table, then Muto gives us a "really dead" montage of how he was such a wholesome guy until he got corrupted and Gai and everyone cry but must go forth.
>>24015885>>24016369And this M3talk H3r0naru guy is that flip I was telling you about. He's an autist who also loves to shit up threads on just about any hype franchise, being anything Super Hero Time, Digimon, or even any HoYoverse game.
>>24017559He should partner with the Voltes flip and they spam a "Samurai Troopers Cinematic Universe" idea where Nasti is named Nasti Mia Ambra Sandy Yagyu Koji Yang Leux and everyone else's names are such strange compounds and they go as far as to list the voice registers all the characters should have but not why the plot would be compelling.
>>24017570That's why the fandom wikias exist. Didn't he make up a whole sequel idea that he also claimed the show took inspiration from?
It was Yuu Minazuki (mangaka for YSST) that spilled the beans that Shion's dead for good, but it caused a big backlash and she had to delete the tweet. She's also told fans to not bother theorizing about the show as it'd only disappoint them if something happens that doesn't match their theories.
>>24017574Sure did, linked to a page about a "2018" fanfic idea but the page was made in 2026 right when the show started. Like everyone on the Reddit was born yesterday and couldn't read.
>>24017575The what of what? Was there some drama going on?
>>24017590Japanese side. She tweeted to fans that she was sorry Shion wasn't coming back to life but hoped everyone would support the staff's work on the anime.
>>24017595So she just leaked it? That's honestly funny. Did she say anything about the ending of the show?>She's also told fans to not bother theorizing about the show as it'd only disappoint them if something happens that doesn't match their theories.This is hilarious
>>24017597Not so far, well anything she does talk about she has to disclaim now that it's only her opinions. She had a main and a side account, and it seems the side was where she leaked things like that then deleted everything after Shion fans got super upset.Are we still even in the days where fujoshi could have enough power to get some Shion OAV like they did with Godmars and his brother Marg? I doubt that.
>>24017607>anything she does talk about she has to disclaim now that it's only her opinionsNot who you replied to but do you have a link to where she said this? Since she deleted the initial tweet. I find it hard to believe anyone working with Sunrise would just reveal something like that.
>World resets or doesn't reset, but day is saved at heavy cost of no Shion>The five reflect on how his sacrifice was necessary for them to live and have a beautiful world>This is done over them passing bits of his skeleton to each other with chopsticks, Yamato fumbles and Musashi cries at the hyoid bone falling on him>The DST cremated Shion on a friend pulling day by mistake and Ryusei was nearly raptured in a strange event, with the others having to grab his feet and denying fujos their RyuShi reunion
>>24017627Inb4 anon is just Rekka lady disrupting the thread again. The Reddit gets talked about and that person posts that all of a sudden? Come on
>>24017627Nvm, I was able to contact the actual person the information came from. The anon who reposted it left out a lot of context.
This series is so boring I'm happy it's about to end so I don't have to drag myself everyweek to watch it. Not that the older one didnt have its ups and downs but man, this one is BORING AS FUCK.
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