who's the worst Gundam protagonist?I vote this faggot
Kio Asuno is the absolute worst protagonist and was made by a company who supports AI. I have no sympathy for anyone who still likes AGE after Level 5 chose wrong.
>>24007515Who the hell even is that
>>24007538Fon Spaak from 00F manga
Banaji
>>24007521What company doesn't support AI?
>>24007515Did he fuck your imaginary girlfriend ot something op?
>>24007521Kio Yamato is a terrible protagonist, being a distilled version of the worst elements of Kira>and was made by a company who supports AII hate to be the bearer of bad news anon but Bandai Namco has been all on in the AI train the last two years. Their end of fiscal year report from earlier this year was very open about the use of generative AI in upcoming projectsThey've signed onto a number of AI related initiates, from text translation to programming to art.
>>24007515I would vote for Mikazuki, but I don't know if he counts since he's not even a character.Maybe the woman from Requiem.
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>>24007515Wow a neck even longer than a Yas illustration. Impressive.
>>24007638Kira or Banagher?
>>24007515Please, he's a fun psycho to have around.
It's obviously kio and he is in the running for worst protagonist of any mecha show, not just gundam. Probably wouldn't win, but definitely in the running.
>>24007515Kira Yamato or Banagher Links.
>>24007752>It's obviously kio and he is in the running for worst protagonist of any mecha showhe's better than Ichika, granted that is not saying much
>>24007515my criteria for the worst protag:boring to watch or worse, annoyingdoes not growhas no agency or chooses the dumbest choiceswho fits the bill?
>>24007515Banagher Links>steals super advanced weapon>refuses to give up said weapon and keeps piloting it>despite being a massive pacifist >flip-flops between two sides and ideologies, never commiting to either>sheer plot armour is the only thing preventing one side or the other slapping him and taking the giga weapon>his pacifism and indecision gets countless people killed>Banagher reacts by crying about how terrible war is>even though he could have saved most of them by just picking a side and acting>gets better and more interesting characters maimed and killed by his lack of action and constant blubbing>including one of the last Purus>ultimately ends the series by never picking a side or taking any real action>never gave his super weapon over to someone whom might have actually used it to stop/shorten the war and save livesIf the series is notably improved by the removal of the protag, he's a shit protagonist.
>>24007515Banagher LinksCries and screams most of the first episodes. Absolute pussy
>>24007607I bet the reason new Gundam designs have been reminiscent of chink designs with excess greeble is because they now use AI agents that if not make the designs then give advice what's supposedly going to sell with the plebs in anno domini.
>>24007861Again Kio. AGE is not a good series at all.
>>24007884I haven't watched AGE but all I know is that I like asemu
>>24007515>>24007861
>>24007880It's amazing how you manage to show your absolute lack of understanding of what you are talking about.
>Hathaway>Kio>Kira>>>power gap>>>Chicken How are You>KouTake your pick
>>24007928how is kou here
>>24007909Yup its her, no doubt about it.
>>24007909that does fit the bill
>>24007951teamkiller
>>24007909Please understand, she really wanted that hobo dick.
>>24007982women amirite
>>24007982Tsurumaki did his Tomino reps well.
>>24007515Fon is not even close to the bottom.
>>24007909I hate bobblehead characters without exception
>>24007867>>24007879People say a bunch of protags are whiney but Banagher was the only one in UC that was to me lol. Massive pussy. The only time I give him some credit is when he's stomping on that fat retard. What a pretentious movie.
>>24007861KioSulettaMachuMikazuki too, he just bored me with his flat character, but Barbatos at least looked cool in some action. Doesn't make up for his character, but the Gundam is at least cool.
>>24007861All of them.
>>24007889Kio honestly ruined the show. Gen 1 and 2 are alright, taking just them into account the show is fairly middle of the pack. But add kio's shit into the mix and it falls off a fucking cliff, so much so they largely wrote his parts out with the OVAs to focus on Asemu and Zeheart again, up to and including changing the final boss of the show.
>>24007928You aren't supposed to like Hathaway, you dense motherfucker. Not only his ideology is retarded; he's suffering from a literal mental breakdown (Quess isn't a Newtype appearance).
>>24007521>Flit was peak gigachad, unleashed after losing his real waifu>Asemu was also peak gigachad, being the best despite not being a Newtype>then comes Kio, who shat on his entire family's legacy to save Martians who started the war ages agoKWAB
>>24007521>>24012337It is really unfortunate how much of a disappointment Kio turned out to be as a character. Rather than just being a relatively normal kid, Kio should have been Desil 2.0, only with Flit having conditioning him into a Vagan killing machine. Like have him so detached from the reality that he is killing actual people that Shaunala, a full blown Vagan spy, would be jeopardizing her own cover to try and restore some humanity to a child conditioned to be a living component for the "Gundam".
>>24012337>Flit was peak gigachadFlit was a faggot who tried to bring military plans to school like a retard.>Asemu was also peak gigachadWrong. He was fucking lame and most of his kills were because of the gundam.>then comes KioThe capstone to how utter shit AGE as a whole was.
Kira's shtick of not killing grunts ruined modern GundamAt least 00 and IBO remained gritty
>>24009546Yeah at least mika aurafarmed in barbie
>>24007928>>Chicken How are YouWho?
>>24012405>Kira's shtick of not killing grunts ruined modern GundamThe problem is Kira doing it with ease. If we saw him actually struggling to do his no-kill bullshit, it would pay off. But no, he lets Freedom do the aimbot shit and maybe take down an arm with the beam saber. Shonen power fantasy horseshit.I honestly think AGE was mocking Kira's bullshit with Kio.
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>>24007909>>24012562I totally forgot about these shittersI apolagize to Fon, he's miles better than these two
I won't abide the kino asuno slander in this thread.It's either between Machu Pichu or whats-her-name from Requiem for VengeanceSuletta at least grows as a character in that she wants to build a schoolWhat does machu do? Let's chase the guy I had no romantic chemistry with 'because that's what the Gundam would say'. Nyaan was at least always in it for the money. Machu was bored one day because her career goal of being a jellyfish wasn't realistic.For for sidecut girl, she abandoned her son and his violin to fuck around in the desert like its apocalypse now. Though to be fair it could be a reference the main uc timeline how zeon refuses to accept that they lost and try over and over again to best the federation, never accepting they were the reason behind their own failures. I think she is worse because she hates the federation for using child soldiers but give it a few years and the whole puru situation would give her an exesistental crisis if she managed to live that long.
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>>24013701I still really don't like Kio but Atleast I can remember him because he does fucking develop in the show.I honestly forget Machu exists whenever I don't see her face or name.
>>24012562I hate this fucking character so fucking much.
>>24013826More than banagher?
>>24013843Yes. I didn't drop Unicorn.
kio ruined ageboth /m/ and /a/ dropped the 3rd arc when he became UNDERSTANDING pacifist bullshitfor the record /m/ and /a/ did watch g-reco even if it was lolrandumb and the mc can't have sex and cum inside his sister
Bro is a psycho I love him so much
>>24007909At the time I couldn't imagine someone worse than Suletta
>>24013843Unicorn laid the groundwork of shit that Gwitch and Gqux expounded uponBanagher crawled so that Suletta and Machu could writhe in the dirt
Banagher at least had a motivation and Machu was just kind of inoffensive to me. Suletta actively pissed me off with her lack of agency and stuttering. "TEE HEE HEE I SQUISHED SOMEBODY IM SO CLUMSY XDD" is actually bad character writing because Okouchi has confused plot twists and shock value with actually writing a plot. Things just happen to this stupid ugly annoying cunt. She is just a stuttering annoying useless piece of shit the plot just happens to. I'm so sorry that this was anybody's first Gundam anime that is so sad.
>>24014640We know you didn't watch the show, you don't have to keep posting the same thing over and over again.
>>24014641I can't even hate watch this show I respect myself too much.
>>24012562I agree. Stuttering retards annoy me to no end. We really don't need an 'inclusive' Gundam with a mentally challenged MC. >>24014640>Banagher He was a blank slate for self-inserters, but that's pretty much it. Forgettable, but not giving me an aneurysm when I watched. >MachuI don't get hate for her. Actually, she was too tame and should have burnt more bridges. >Suletta actively pissed me off with her lack of agencySO MUCH THIS
>>24014640Suletta's lack of agency is an actual thing acknowledged in the show though. It's not like it's there due to incompetent writing unwillingly leading to it there.The part you might criticize is how season 2 handles her developing past that.Well, you can also just not like her character type at all, of course. No one is forced to like every character.
Characters aren't just things the plot happens to. A good character should be the one making decisions and their decisions should be the thing driving the plot forward. Also:>B-b-but muh TempestChar is a better Hamlet than anything WfM did. He even has a fencing match lmao.
>>24014653You couldn't pay me to sit there and watch a MC with no agency. I'm not wasting my time with a character you didn't bother to write.
>>24014642Background watched the whole show, actively pic related to when something interesting happened, which wasn’t often. The school shooting was the best part of the show
>>24014653>Suletta's lack of agency is an actual thing acknowledged in the show though. It's not like it's there due to incompetent writing unwillingly leading to it there.Writing a character badly on purpose is still writing a character badly.Agency is something important for a protagonist so making a character purposely lack it is not inherently good just because it was on purpose, especially if you don't write it well.
>>24007909Who even does dumbass character designs like this. It doesn't even look like typical anime or anything artsy. It's like a little kids stick figure.
>>24014939It's the guy who works on Pokemon.
>>24014941I thought the guy who did Pokemon was the one who did mega Man legends.
>>24007867>>never gave his super weapon over to someone whom might have actually used it to stop/shorten the war and save livesWhat war? Unicorn's story was just a bunch of guerrilla incidents that were relatively easy to cover up.
>>24014949There are more than one Pokemon artist
>>24013742Don't post that ridiculous garbage here, shartynigger.
>>24014640>>24014921>because Okouchi has confused plot twists and shock value with actually writing a plotTo be fair, that's something Okuichi has done repeatedly, usually involving massacres against civilians.
>>24007515OP
>>24015031Do people really confuse plot twists with good writing? I thought we as a society stopped doing that after The Sixth Sense.
>>24012562Came here to post this
Toss up between Machu and Mikazuki.
>>24016657>and Mikazuki.
>>24007515Fon is honestly a decent protagonist/character in 00F, but only 00F where his skills and competency were manageable and not OP and worked as a foil to the other 4 gundam meisters. Everything 00F racketed him up to 20 and made him more of a gary stu.
>>24022405>Everything after 00FFixed
I don't understand how someone can shit on Suletta for not having any agency but then like Machu or think she's inoffensive when she has even less agency than Suletta.
>>24022455Because Machu is straight.
>>24022455I want to fuck machu, I do not want to fuck suletta.
>>24007515Asemu has to seal the deal with that title.
>>24022405Yeah, 00I and the Extreme manga really uped the gary stuness.
>>24022455trannies cant relate to a character that looks like a woman hence why they gravitate towards the pokeslop
>>24022405He's even worse later? There's no way, the way they write him is already terrible, he comes across as a magician, because most of his deductions are boderline magic.
>>24024297He solos 3 Garozzos in the base Astraea in 00I.
>>24024287The irony of a witchfag saying this.
I never realizes how superfluous this character was till I checked out his series via the G-Gen Eternal event. He was just hiding in the background in every big mission from 00 S1 and retroactively saving the day without anyone knowing he exists?Was this like a reactionary decision based on the SEED sidestory manga having too much of a life of their own?
>>24024456I think it's more due to the setting. You could only have another "Gundam" early in 00s story if it were part of the Celestial Being. It'd make no sense if there just was some random unrelated mobile suit running around with the Gundam name.
>>24024456>retroactively saving the day without anyone knowing he exists?No, he was just doing his own missions.
>>24007515i've seen this "choker on a male" a couple times now, and it looks 10,000% faggy every time.
>>24024495It's a bomb collar, but also you aren't wrong.
>>24024446not really, if you like the pokemon art style I really dont know what to tell you
