>year 2003 +23,>seed is finally forgotten
It just had a movie.
Speak for yourself, I see my heroes Shinn and Kira every time I close my eyes
>>24019884making out?
>>24019860Breed Cagalli
>>24019884Shinn is a true man that found true love. Kira is a crybaby bitch saved by plot armor. Plus Shinn gets 'bari-ism sword. But whatevs his sister and her crew does get a pink Gundams. You do you, I just don't like them being mentioned in the same sentence.
>>24019966Shinn is a loser with a “girlfriend” who would rather fuck Athrun.Kira is a chad with the best GF in the franchise.
>>24019966>Shinn is a true manHe's a retard that can't think for himself and constantly lashes out at the wrong people.>that found true loveNo he didn't. He fell for a mentally unstable girl that died, and then proceeded to guilt hookup with a worthless hussy who's sister he had just slaughtered (or at least they thought at the time)
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>>24019966>Shinn is a true man that found true loveHe got pussy-whipped even harder than Kira. And Kira is the guy he now looks up to.
Is this girl having allergic reaction to something?
>>24019997Who's got the Athrun one? That shit's hilarious.
>>24019989>and constantly lashes out at the wrong people.No, Shinn lashes out at the right people. The problem is that the story lets them off the hook.I detest this stupid blonde bitch so much it's unreal.
>>24020220Because the show keeps trying to paint Orb as this wonderful country that can do no wrong. Also, hating the OG cast is basically a death sentence in this universe that it's amazing the final battle didn't kill him.
>>24020232>it's amazing the final battle didn't kill him.My guess is that the execs didn't allow it. Shinn was sufficiently popular with audiences that they had to keep him around, if only to be a servile follower of "commander Yamato" during the movie.Also, we're talking about the same show that brought back two clear-cut KIAs later on. You think they would do anything to the nominal protagonist of Destiny?
>>24020237Considering by that point the show seemed to have given up on him as the protagonist going back to Kira. I think I read somewhere that Fukuda and Murosawa never wanted to make Shinn the protagonist and Kira taking the spotlight back from him was always planned. It's pretty obvious they have bias for the old cast as when Mu rejoins the Archangel, they just pretend his time as Neo never happened.
>>24019884>>24019885Yes, Kira loves Shinn
>>24019860Not even. SEED Freedom Zero officially entered production earlier this year and was reportedly due out by 2029 for SEED's next major Anniversary. In addition, Bandai straight-up stated they will be supporting expanding on SEED's universe via new content as their second major tentpole series besides UC.SEED is here to stay, thanks to GSF breaking records and bringing in an entire new generation of SEED fans.
>>24020258My favorite part in this game is when Kallen talks about how Shinn and Rey training hard to beat this one guy, but he ended up surviving, and Kira's all "Oh, that's neat. Who was it?"
>>24020241>I think I read somewhere that Fukuda and Murosawa never wanted to make Shinn the protagonist and Kira taking the spotlight back from him was always planned.I've read the opposite in interviews, actually, with both claiming to like Shinn and empathizing with his situation. Granted, I don't believe a fucking word of that, but the point is that it's very unlikely they had "planned" anything for the story beyond the 0083 rehash at the start. Remember that the original plan was for a movie, which Sunrise later changed into a 50-episode TV anime, with little to no preparation.
>>24019966and then he drowned that true love when she was unconscious just so he could blame kira for it and seethe more
>>24019966>>24019884Shinn is like the retarded son that Kira wish he always wanted. Since Lacus isn't pregnant for whatever reason, so Shinn is Kira's retarded son.
>>24020315The son that Athrun decided he didn't want so Kira took him.
>>24019860You wish. /gpg/ still cries about Seed almost every day.
>>24020322They still haven't gotten over it, how?
>>24020259>SEED is here to stay, thanks to GSF breaking records and bringing in an entire new generation of SEED fans.What "new generation of fans"? This shit was made for the same fujos that went crazy for the series back in the day. There's no new audience to be made with that movie.The same goes for Hathaway, by the way.
>>24020061so sorry you never seen it, but sure, let's keep it that way
>>24020271>>24020241Fukuda is the same guy who claims Cagalli is the heroine of Destiny, he changes his authorial intent with every breath>>24020320Athrun continued the cycle of abuse caused by his father pointing the fallout plasma pistol at him. Kira is truly the father that stepped up
>>24020432Having a dad like Patrick definitely explains why Athrun sucks with communication. Even with Kira, they spend most of their time trying to kill each other.
>>24020432>>24020443What daddy issues does to a fucker like Athrun.
>>24020400You must have missed Bandai's and Fukuda's own statements when GSF broke so many Gundam records in the first month of showing. Fukuda tweeted that he didn't expect entire sold-out showings full of young people during the premiere and subsequent showings, as he was only expecting old fans and smaller crowds. Bandai for their part ran a demographic poll and said they were glad to see a new generation of fans take to the series given that there was a major rise in a younger audience in addition to plenty of legacy fans.
>>24020259>Can't resolve the main conflict of Coordinators v Naturals because then the series wouldn't exist, but also because Fukuda would rather you didn't think too hard about things like eugenics or ubermensch and untermensch and would rather you be amazed by the stunning story direction of "racism bad">Can't pull off a CCA and kill off your leads to shake up the status quo, let alone bench them as a precedent has been set that they will strongarm themselves into the story>Immediate follow up to GSF and all its record breaking sales and drawing in of audiences is a prequel that jumps slightly back in the timelineHow can Bandai meaningfully expand SEED when it's perfectly content to be the same shit as always?
>>24020259>was reportedly due out by 2029 for SEED's next major AnniversaryAwww, not 2027 for Seed's 25th anniversary.
>>24020986Because SEED fans don't care about that they just want to see their favorite characters beating up bad guys.
>>24020993How sustainable is that, though? Gone are the days of going all in for a 50 episode length series, and while Seed has spin-offs and side material - they're never allowed to do any major shakeups and Fukuda hates them.Unless the plan is to just release movies every half decade or so and edge/milk Seed fans with a totally new mobile suit that's just Strike Freedom with a different adjective in front.
>>24020986The answer was there all along - invading space whale army
>>24021017Now now, there's room for words on the back end, too. Can't wait for Strike Freedom Omega in 2035.
>>24021046Space whales are fake.Glenn was a liar who needed to discredit religion to spread the coordinator plague.
>>24020986They could do a Mwu spinoff, since he's almost on the same level as Kira/Lacus/Athrun when it comes to how much the writing bends over for him, just make up another squad of supersoldier crackheads for him to fight and make Murrue's bazongas jiggle a bit
>>24019860Bro this series sucks. Like actual fucking garbage. Now... as a disclaimer I only watched the show recently. I tried multiple times to get into it years ago but It didnt keep a hold of my attention. I heard many memes about how horrible this show is over the years and got damn were they right.But... I feel like the me in late 2000s would have enjoyed this show. Seed is a show you have to watch during your teens years or its fucking trash. Its cringe as hell all the time. Like why the fuck is this racist ass bitch suddenly going full yandere for main protagonists dick. I swear if I wrote this in a fan fiction you would all make fun of me. But because its official and money was put into it you give it a pass. I am not done with the show yet but I dont even know if I want to continue. Im 62 episodes in right now and its been cringe as hell for like 50 of those episodes.
>>24021077It's the same with Code Geass to be honest. You have to be the right age for it I think. I can't imagine getting into either of those shoes now that I am almost 40.
>>24021079Lol I typed shoe instead of show. My bad.
>>24019860insane how in retrospect Cagalli's character would have been better off getting fridged in Destiny episode 1
>>24021084Imagine if Athrun got killed in the first episode as well.
>>24020787>You must have missed Bandai's and Fukuda's own statements when GSF broke so many Gundam records in the first month of showing. Fukuda tweeted that he didn't expect entire sold-out showings full of young people during the premiere and subsequent showings, as he was only expecting old fans and smaller crowds.>Bandai for their part ran a demographic poll and said they were glad to see a new generation of fans take to the series given that there was a major rise in a younger audience in addition to plenty of legacy fans.You could've cited any of those things from Twitter or whatever, because I will certainly not take either your or Fukuda's word for it.From my end, at least, I have not seen anything resembling a significant surge of young fans towards SEED from the common places. They're still obsessed with gacha games and shonenshit. Even Quuuuux did better with the zoomers.
>>24020986>Can't resolve the main conflict of Coordinators v Naturals because then the series wouldn't exist, but also because Fukuda would rather you didn't think too hard about things like eugenics or ubermensch and untermenschI mean, you can, but that would require the writers to think a bit harder this time around to make a story, rather than literally repeating the same thing they did at the end of Destiny, except with a "new" cast of characters:>blue cosmos AGAIN!>destiny plan AGAIN!>requiem attacks AGAIN!>"elite" squad that gets killed with ease AGAIN!>SF and IJ style on everyone with little damage AGAIN!It seems like fucking nothing was solved at the end of the show.
>>24021295Wasn't Destiny's final battle just SEED's final battle except TSA was on new game plus. Why else did Kira fight Rey other than the connection to Rau?
>>24021297>Wasn't Destiny's final battle just SEED's final battle except TSA was on new game plus. Why else did Kira fight Rey other than the connection to Rau?Plus Mwu tanking a positron blast and saving the Archangel. It's also why they got rid of Shinn pretty quickly during the fight.One thing is creators with bad ideas, but Fukuda doesn't have any fresh ideas, period. Even Messiah was copied from Dendoh, a show on which he had Morosawa working with more experienced screenwriters like Yasuko Kobayashi.
>>24021305That just makes me bad for Shinn more. Not only was defeated quickly but he's also completely forgotten about until Athrun remembers he exists and goes back for him and that was only in Final Plus. In the original ending the last we see of him is crying on the moon. They didn't give a shit about him at all.
>>24021310>Not only was defeated quickly but he's also completely forgotten about until Athrun remembers he exists and goes back for him and that was only in Final PlusThat only makes it worse. Athrun "remembered he exists", so he's only worthy of pity and later, becoming a lackey to Kira. You do that shit to a treasonous character like Agnes, but not your fucking protagonist.Even the indifference in the original finale is less insulting to Shinn's character than having him cry to Kira in fucking Final Plus. Does he even care the guy killed his parents?
Looking at this board, I can say without a shred of doubt that mecha's fanbase has become so thoroughly corrupted and sick by the worst people imaginable that this board no longer has a justifiable reason to exist.
>>24021321You're goddamn right. Now, what are you going to do about it? Write to Hiroyuki or RapeApe so that they pull the plug.Even if you did, you're discounting their inertia. They are so indifferent and incompetent at running the site that they won't care.>thoroughly corrupted and sick by the worst people imaginable I dunno. This isn't the kind of place that has a semi-permanent pedo thread.
>>24021297>Why else did Kira fight Rey other than the connection to Rau?Did Kira ever face Rey before the battle in Orb? There's an obligatory flashback to the Providence when he sees Legend, but I don't think they had been matched earlier on.
>>24020220>Shinn lashes out at the right peopleWhen his autistic girlfriend died, he lashed out at Kira instead of the guy who LITERALLY promised him that he wouldn't send her out into battle again.
>>24021602Legend attacks SF during the battle of Orb alongside Destiny right before IJ arrives.
>>24021079What would you consider the right age for it?I watched SEED for the first time this year and really enjoyed it, and I'm 28. Destiny was hot garbage though, I expect Freedom to disappoint as well when I get around to it, since I'm going through Gundam in release order.
>>24021946I think your 20s is a good age for it. Also not having already seen 0079 probably helps a lot.
>>2402194614-23
>>24020258Disgusting.
>>24021946>I'm going through Gundam in release orderCan I ask why you're treating watching anime like a homework assignment?
>>240219540079 was the first Gundam I ever watched.>>24021958I got curious about Gundam in 2017 and didn't know where to start so I just went to wikipedian found the title for the original, and looked that up and watched it, I enjoyed it much more than I would've thought, so then I watched Zeta since that was the sequel, then ZZ, then CCA, then by that time I had already decided I wanted to watch everything and I was already going in release order, plus it was nice to see the animation slowly evolve and get better over time.
Happy 56th birthday to TM Revolution.
>>24019860Imagine how satisfying it would feel to take Cagalli's virginity with no intention of marrying her afterwards.
>>24021893That is literally what I said, you fucking moron. I am asking whether they had faced each other BEFORE Orb.
>>24021946>I watched SEED for the first time this year and really enjoyed itTo this day, I don't get what enjoyment people get from SEED. Pretty much every issue Destiny had came from the first series.
>>24022067Early 2000s charm.
>>24022072Shows like SAC and Monster have that charm. Not this shitty attempt at copying the original Gundam.
>>24021602Does Kira shooting off his Zaku's arm count? Because that's it.
>>24022011Why does he sound like that? Does he do estrogen injections? Last song I heard from them he still sounded like an old female enka songstress.
>>24022067I like that its basically a reimagined 0079, I like the uniqueness of having two best friends on opposite sides of the war, I like the romance drama stuff, and I liked how the main cast seperates from the Federation and basically becomes a lone military power against both major sides of the war.
>>24022126>I like the uniqueness of having two best friends on opposite sides of the warThat lasted for like 20 episodes until the story brought them back. And, while it is a very interesting plot element, it comes at the expense of Kira not really being a friend to the Heliopolis kids. He cares more about Athrun than the people he is allegedly "protecting".>and I liked how the main cast seperates from the Federation and basically becomes a lone military power against both major sides of the warThat has been done in Gundam before. SEED is especially bad because both factions are portrayed as irredeemably evil, while our gaggle of heroes can mantle themselves in (self) righteousness.
>>24022090>SAC and MonsterRead that as SAO at first glance and wondered what the fuck you were on putting those two in the same sentence.Also isn't it funny how Kira got dethroned in character polls by Kirito from SAO, the ground zero of the self-insert slop that's plagued anime for the better part of a decade now?MCs like Kira really laid the groundwork for that.
>>24022138>Also isn't it funny how Kira got dethroned in character polls by Kirito from SAO, the ground zero of the self-insert slop that's plagued anime for the better part of a decade now?>MCs like Kira really laid the groundwork for that.Yep, I've noticed that specific development. Audiences in Japan adore their hollow power fantasies
>>24022139Which isn't to say power fantasies can't be entertaining, but when sneed is doing it and trying to be an 0079/U.C for a "modern audience" the result is such utter chuuni dreck that I begin to understand where old man micheal zaki was coming from with the "anime was a mistake" quote.
>>24022137>it comes at the expense of Kira not really being a friend to the Heliopolis kids. He cares more about Athrun than the people he is allegedly "protecting".That comes from him being naive and thinking it can eventually work out without him having to sacrifice either side. Its more that the Heliopolis kids aren't that great of friends to Kira, they don't check in on him enough, two of them outright don't really trust him, and he ends up feeling isolated.>That has been done in Gundam before. SEED is especially bad because both factions are portrayed as irredeemably evilThe only similar examples I can think of off the top of my head are Zeta and Turn A, though Zeta is a sequel series and the AEUG is your protagonist faction from beginning to end with Zeon being the third wheel, and in Turn A Loran is pretty opposed to both sides the entire time.Either way, in both instances the antagonists aren't anything you can root for, anyone who makes and uses Cyber Newtypes is always portrayed as evil, and for Turn A the leaders of both sides are ludicrously fight hungry.Honestly almost every main antagonist in Gundam is just irredeemably evil, its par for the course. You can have your not so bad grunts and colonels and stuff, but the people at the top are almost always corrupt.
>>24022163I feel that's what makes it hard to take anything seriously. You can never the sense that the characters are in any danger because they'll always be fine afterwards and treat it like nothing. It becomes formuliac. Like how many times has Kira or anyone else survived shit that would have killed a lesser character?
>>24022186>That comes from him being naive and thinking it can eventually work out without him having to sacrifice either side. Its more that the Heliopolis kids aren't that great of friends to Kira, they don't check in on him enough, two of them outright don't really trust him, and he ends up feeling isolated.This cuts both ways. The story never makes even the attempt at creating a relationship between them, of trending a bridge. I honestly do not see any real friendship there.Because of circumstances, I don't have the novel at hand, but Kira thinks he will never be part of the group with his Natural "friends" because he was born a Coordinator. >You can have your not so bad grunts and colonels and stuff, but the people at the top are almost always corrupt.That is definitely not the case with the Earth Alliance, especially in the second half. Zero attempt whatsoever to paint them as anything but irredeemably evil.
>>24022189Yeah, well, that's what you get when the writing puts the main characters before the story.As the other Anon said, it's the same shit as SAO.
>>24022324STOP SAYING SAO I WANT TO FUCKING FORGET IT EXISTED HOLY FUCK SPOILER IT OR SOMETHING FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCK
>>24022334>I could feel my hot sperm gushing deep into Asuna as she trembled in yet another climax. Two years worth of semen made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into Asuna. Every time my penis twitched, fireworks would go off in my head
>>24020259>SEED Freedom Zero officially entered production earlier this year and was reportedly due out by 2029 for SEED's next major Anniversary.I thought it was just a small prequel OVA?
>>24022348They upgraded it to a movie.And no, I have no idea how they are going to fill two hours of footage with such a barebones plot. SF gets stolen in transit, a couple of Murasames are destroyed, Black Knights defeat it. Is there anything else, considering Fukuda cannot be assed to develop the world outside his pet protagonists?
>>24020400new generation of japs. it's why seed does so well cause it's the most jap gundam there is.
>>24022334Calm down, dude.
>>24022372Reminder that the motherfucker claims watching Infinite Stratos scarred him for life. He treats the show like it's his archnemesis.
>>24022443drool?
TM Revolution's roles.
>>24022011>>24022454Enough already. Are you paid to shill or something?
>>24022454When did he voice Silver Samurai?
>>24022357Supposedly, it's going to dive into the politics following Lacus' temporary stint as Chairwoman of the PLANTs, the formation of COMPASS, and then the theft proper. Basically fill in a bit of what happened between GSD Final Plus' ending and GSF.
>>24022465>source: my assFukuda has not said much about the movie's plot, other than it's going to be about the theft incident. And Lacus was never chairwoman.
>>24021079It's truly one of the great depressing feelings when you watch something and find it just okay, but just KNOW had you gotten to it half a lifetime ago it's be in your all time favorites
>>24021079Code Geass is still great, I rewatch it once every 2-3 years. Recommended it to one of my 40 years old coworkers and he and his kids loved it. He smoked weed throughout whole thing though. Guess you need altered state of mind to enjoy things like that.
>>24022597Honestly I thought I was a big Gundam fan back when I was a kid and all I had were the Gunpla, Super Robot Wars/G-Generation games and story synopses on MAHQ to engage with. Then I actually watched the shows during lockdown and found most were a huge disappointment. Zeta, CCA, Turn A, etc were all pretentious and boring slogs.To me, the only Gundam shows that held up are the 0079 compilation films and 0080 and so now that's where my investment in Gundam starts and ends. I see a lot of shittalk about SEED in here but quite frankly the so-called Tomino masterpieces share the same cesspit.
>>24022680Yeah, I can't imagine enjoying Code Geass sober.
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>>24021079>I can't imagine getting into either of those shoes now that I am almost 40.Seems like a (You) problem. Entertainment has no age.
>>24022948>I see a lot of shittalk about SEED in here but quite frankly the so-called Tomino masterpieces share the same cesspitElaborate. There are many things off (and some that are fundamentally wrong) with Tomino's shows, but you can't say they are the "same" cesspit as fucking SEED.
>>24022971Sure. I'm going to go watch Blue's Clues now. Fucking idiot.
>>24021297>Why else did Kira fight Rey other than the connection to Rau?Rey confronted him, he knew about Kira and had this mentality that it was written on his genes to do it. It's not like Kira went out of his way to do it.
>>24022975Quod erat demonstrandum.If you enjoy it, who the hell cares? Sometimes the biggest fans aren't in the age demographic.
>>24022982What's Latin for "suck my dick"?
>>24022982>If you enjoy it, who the hell cares? Sometimes the biggest fans aren't in the age demographic.Fuck off back to >>>/mlp/ horsefucker.
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>>24022454The bard is his best role.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkkyFNNaNH0
