>an overman is so exceedingly rare that there are only two known overmen in existence>one overman is born per hundred million people >the setting literally bends over backwards to make Chirico’s existence somewhat reasonable albeit once in a generationThen Oshii says “lol what if we made another against every established rule of the setting because if there’s one thing mecha needs is another insufferable female mc”
>I'M MAD>I'M MAD AT A MOVIE I DIDN'T EVEN WATCHif there’s one thing /m/ needs is another insufferable thread
is she actually an overman
>>24052350Early signs point to yes, but I'm betting no. It won't be super explicit but I bet there'll be a bunch of clues that heavily imply she's a regular human or maybe another botched PS.
>>24052350No, OP is having a melty over Oshii, probably not the first time he does.
Is the movie out?
>>24052367nope
>Well, Anno is much more talented than Oshii-san. Oshii-san's works are nothing more than student's films. I think he has a repetition's compulsion. I don't know how he still can get a sponsor (laughs)
>>24052292 just be glad he has his filthy fucking mitts off of EZY so at least that'll turn out good
Not a fan or Oshii's latest work. His only watchable work in recent years was Blood Friends and I said watchable rather than good
>>24052292Why did they make her look like Chirico with a wig?
>>24053128Imagine it’s just Chirico’s disguise after leaving the Red Shoulders. But they will probably make a female overman.
>>24053128>>24053136Yeah, the plot is about the other protagonist investigating her due to the rumors about her often surviving what should be death missions. So, it's clearly at least meant to make you think about Chirico, although he could pull a twist in a different direction.
>>24052292>>one overman is born per hundred million peopleThat's fairly frequent for something like an overman, isn't it?
>>24053137He could.He might.He probably will.
>>24052945His Lupin episodes were good.
>>24053128I mean there was that Veela woman and Teitania that also looked like Chirico in a wig.
>>24053302 HEEEEY DO YOU LIKE THE KILLERS BY ANDREI TARKOVSKY DO YOU LIKE OBTUSE REFERENCES TO OTHER MEDIA WITHIN MY ALREADY OBTUSE MEDIA REFERENCE DID YOU SEE THE THING BEING REFERENCED IN THE REFERENCE how do these people not feel the bars of the cage they're putting themselves into by being hacks that whole generation of people are fucking idiots
>>24053241Paraphrasing slightly but I remember wiseman saying once in a billion or something like that. So rare to the point that one only appears every millennia if they aren’t murdered at birth because of their association with Quent. Remember that they are rare because of an intergalactic pogrom.
Overman?
>>24053342It really makes you mad doesn't it.
>>24053403 you're damn right i'm gonna make wholly original art, get a shitton of cash and then draw myself ritualistically killing these old fucks with a circular saw
>>24053414You won't do shit.
>>24053374I thought Chirico was born in a space baby tube.
>>24052292I hate men.
>>24053448no, that's a red herring, the twist is he's a naturally occurring atavistic mutant which the space nazis are trying to copy
>>24053449YWNBAW
>>24053453Forgive me for being a theoryfag but I honestly kind of wonder if this lady will end up being Chirico's mother, or at least egg donor for Wiseman's eugenics. In another thread people mentioned it seemed to take place earlier in the war because of the presence of the primitive Blockers, and the woman's hair color is sorta close to Chirico's. But I'm just rambling.
>>24057391As one of the biggest Votoms fans, are you looking forward to this Gunlord? What do you think of the trailers and plot synop so far?
>>24052933He was talking about Oshii's live action films here. And I'll be honest Red Spectacles and Avalon are equivalent to Anno's best Love & Pop and Cutie Honey>>24052936Meh it's just been slightly worse modern episodes of the TV show so far with much worse production values. At least if Oshii directed it, EZY would probably visually look better.
>>24057391>In another thread people mentioned it seemed to take place earlier in the war because of the presence of the primitive BlockerI am one of those people. I mean, while we were told in the synopsis that "the Hundred Years' War is nearing its end", they were not specific as to what they meant by that. "Near the end of the Hundred Years' War" could mean before or in 7212 (the year Red Shoulder Document starts as Gilgamesh and Balarant started to negotiate for an end to the war after that OVA)?
>>24057464Very much so! Like a lot of anons I think the redesigns are a little worse than the originals generally (I guess I'm just attached to the sort of stocky, if thats the right word, proportions ATs have generally had), but not enough to be a dealbreaker for me, and from the trailers the AT action looks very good so that's good enough for me. The plot seems like the sort of thing Oshii might do a good job with given his previous works so I'm looking forward to that as well.>>24057478Yeah. I mean literally speaking "close to the end" of the hundred years war could be the last 20 to 30 years of it (i.e the last third or fifth of it), so thats well before 7212, depending on how long the Blockers were in service, which escapes me right now. It would also allow for the protag to be Chirico's ancestress in some sense, since he was pretty young when VOTOMs tv started (despite his appearance, haha), thus why I was hypothesizing she might end up singled out by Wiseman for his breeding program, in whatever form, if she does have Supreme Survivor traits.
>>24057391>kind of wonder if this lady will end up being Chirico's motherGoddammit they're going to do that aren't theyPure slop
>>24057492>Yeah. I mean literally speaking "close to the end" of the hundred years war could be the last 20 to 30 years of it (i.e the last third or fifth of it), so thats well before 7212, depending on how long the Blockers were in service, which escapes me right now. It would also allow for the protag to be Chirico's ancestress in some sense, since he was pretty young when VOTOMs tv started (despite his appearance, haha), thus why I was hypothesizing she might end up singled out by Wiseman for his breeding program, in whatever form, if she does have Supreme Survivor traits.That could work, though it'll be sobering to know that if Ash is the one who gave birth to Chirico, she'll most likely die at the hands of the Red Shoulders as Yoran Pailsen would have that facility where Abnormal/Supreme Survivors were born and raised torched.
>>24057770Seems like the exact opposite of something Oshii would do lol
>>24057909Yeah.I could maybe see it, but only if she gets impregnated in a lab while in cryostasis and remains frozen forever.
>>24057909 it depends on whether oshii will respect the OVA version of chirico's godhood being genetic or the original show's version of that godhood being a mechanically created illusion like i feel the second version would line up with his previous work with christianity but he could still go with the first version if he's THAT type of votoms fan
>>24058180>original show's version of that godhood being a mechanically created illusionwat
>>24058190Watch the fucking show.
>>24058193No you should watch the fucking show.
>>24057466Fun fact: Oshii wanted to direct a big kaiju film in the 90s but the opportunity never came. Meanwhile his collaborator Kazunori Ito wrote the Gamera trilogy and Anno made Shin Godzilla.
>>24058193>>24058180No, Chirico is a genetic freak in the original show as well. I don't remember any hint that it's an illusion. The part that's bullshit is the whole Chosen One role he's expected to fulfill, not the fact that he's got super reflexes and stuff.But what you're describing could easily be what Ash has got going on for all we know, but it doesn't apply to Chirico.
>>24052292Knight of Faith > Overman
>>24058538He isn't.
>>24061714okay, can you point me towards the episode where it says he's a normal guy, then?Cause from what I remember, the twist isn't that he's normal, the twist is that he's naturally super-awesome instead of being a product of genetic/jijirium manipulation like the other PS.
>>24061736The twist is that you need to watch the show.
>>24053381Is dat sum Another Century's Episode???
