>>24071347
Top 10:
1. Godzilla 1954
2. Invasion of Astro-Monster
3. Terror of Mechagodzilla
4. GMK: Giant Monsters All Out Attack
5. Shin Godzilla
6. Mothra vs Godzilla
7. Godzilla vs Hedorah
8. Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla (1974)
9. Godzilla vs Biollante
10. Godzilla Minus One

It's a significant step down from Minus One in almost every regard

>>24071347
Have a safe trip

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Bit the bullet and grabbed him. inb4 rotation.

Its a good movie but it very much felt like Avatar 3 where they reuse the same script and just change a few things here and there. They even reuse the bait and switch twist from the first movie, but this time the movie would have been better if the guy stayed the same. Also the proper G vs. KG fight is maybe 30 seconds at most.
I did like >>24071376 though

Do I need to see minus 1 before seeing this? I really just want to see it for King Ghidorah

>>24071391
Minus One is a hard requirement.

>>24071391
Yes. That's actually a very big flaw with the movie, they don't set up all of the returning characters.
Like all of the minesweeper guys are just there. "Lol, should have seen Minus One!"
I personally didn't have a problem obviously, but it'd suck trying to recommend this series now. "You must watch the first film to understand all films after."

is it worth a trip to the IMAX? Our local is dogwater, but I'll drive out if its actually worth it. Odyssey was kind of fucking nothing tier.

>>24071393
>>24071407
Fug, okay guess I have some homework to do

>>24071425
>noooooo I have to watch a good movie before watching another movie woe is me!!!
Humblebrag harder bitch

>>24071302
The fight def should have been longer. Kamazaki can tell a good human story but his monster battles need work.
>>24071423
One reviewer who watched both said MZ made much better use of it than Nolans pile of shit.

>>24071373
>>24071382
Yeah, but still a solid movie all around. Ghidorah's every scenes were glorious.

>>24071347
Minus One is easily in my top 5 but Minus Zero would maybe be my #6 or something like that. Incredible movie still.

>>24071423
It's very loud. Too loud in certain parts if you're unlucky

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>>24071423
I think it was worth it, but like >>24071455 said, it can be VERY loud in certain parts, so if you're sensitive to that, just be aware.

>>24071452
sexo

>>24071462
I saw Kojima posting the godzilla and a tiny yellow king ghidorah one. Would love to get them but I haven't seen them in my local hobby shop.

>>24071455
>>24071457
is it like GOOD loud or just obnoxious to the point where its just distorted. Like the sound was so shit during Odyssey that the cyclops was just a fucking loud screech. I didnt even know he was yelling for his dad until a different theatre kek. But I'm fine with Godzilla blowing out my ears. I guess I'm asking if they show MORE of the movie since that was the gimmick right?

>>24071488
The kiddo crying is exceptionally loud.

Biollante would be cool next

>>24071488
It's definitely loud more frequently than Odyssey was.

>>24071521
There is no next time

Toho said it wanted a Godzilla movie every 2-3 years. While this ended definitively, it was also bittersweet and I could easily see one more movie just to make sure the family has a happy (but also maybe a little bit sad) ending for good.
It can't just be "and then they evaded the government forever", and the same with Godzilla. Can't just be "and then he evaded the US military forever."

>>24071525
As long as it prints money they'll always be a next time. that and the ending is wide open for a sequel.

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>>24071525
He is open to it and the ending leaves enough room for a sequel. It also makes a shit ton of money
And while he is doing his original movie the spot will be filled by Shin 2

>>24071531
Shin 2 is the real "wtf is it gonna be about".
I mean I liked Shin 1, but at this point it seems like it'd step on Minus Zero's toes more than anything. Not with the Ghidorah part, the American part.

>>24071488
I was annoyed that I couldn't quite tell what Ghidorah was supposed to sound like throughout the whole movie, and had trouble distinguishing Godzilla's sounds in the fight. His main roars sounded distorted, and I didn't have that problem with Minus One in the exact same imax screen 3 years ago

>>24071529
>>24071531
pls no, no more sequel, they've suffered enough. I want to believe the movie ends with Noriko indeed being that one special case who is immune/ managed to fully adapt to the zilla infection and the trio just live out their lives in obscurity in some village out there

>>24071533
>Not with the Ghidorah part, the American part.
Maybe if the sequel focus on a new cast as the protagonists...

>>24071554
>Maybe if the sequel focus on a new cast as the protagonists...
It easily could, but the ending of Shin 1 was predicated on the fact that if Godzilla ever woke up, the Americans would nuke Tokyo in an attempt to stop it.
That's a hard threat to go back on.

Does final wars require watching any godzilla movies prior to it? I'm not unfamiliar with heisei godzilla, I've watched a lot of them on tv as a kid but I wasn't really conscious of which are which, just "oh it's that dragon monster on tv".

CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME MR. NODA

Watched it today, 7/10.

Going forward I can see them doing a time skip in the next film.

>>24071571
No, but it helps.
The list of 'it helps' movies to watch is really long, though. Final Wars is basically Toho's entire kaiju catalog, including non-Godzilla movies. What is or isn't canon when it comes to Showa Godzilla is iffy, but with Final Wars the answer is "yes."
It was a send off for that entire era, and was intended to be the last Godzilla movie for 50 years (Toho is constantly threatening to put the franchise on permanent hiatus), so it makes sense.

If I were to get right down to it, I'd say the best movie to watch before Final Wars is Invasion of the Astro Monster, since the aliens in both movies are the same.

So are there accurate fansubs for the heisei films out there somewhere? Or am I just fucked with dubtitles?

Getting into godzilla recent so im still a newbie but i enjoyed it quite a lot, still think minus one had a tighter narrative but stil was a good time 8/10
(i give minus one a 9/10)

>>24071582
i was also wondering where i can watch/torrent most of the godzilla films since im relying on streaming rn but want to know where to go when that well dryes up so any help would be nice

Shikishima if you're out there son this is GHQ just want to say fine work today. Couldn't have done it without yeah. Shame about Noda though. Great man. A fine man. Too bad he didn't make it. All of us here are pretty broken up. But he died. He died right after you fired that rocket. Big ol' blast. Crispy critter. He got turned into a cripsy critter when you fried him. To death. When you fried him to death. Dead. Just a spoonful of him left really. Oh say hi to Noriko for us. Does she even talk anymore or just kinda screech. Anyway thanks again buddy. See you around.

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>>24071589
https://archive.org/details/RecurringDinosaurInfestationFilms
These are all dubbed, but they're the """good""" dubs I grew up with so may not be to your taste.
I've actually decided to watch Astro Monster right now.

As an aside, some of the dubs actually add interesting elements. Maybe not interesting enough to make them must-watches, but still interesting little windows into American-Japanese relations at the time. Like Raymond Burr turns the original Godzilla into almost a war correspondent film, like a reporter covering the bombing of London, and Godzilla vs Kong has this strange global news and UN connection, oddly prescient of 24 hour news channels from later in the century.
I miss when Godzilla movies would have original dub segments. Maybe they weren't authentic, but they did make them worth watching. Like the Final Wars dub? Nothing to recommend about it, it's just a dub.

>>24071582 (me)
And how good are the criterion channel subs for the heisei stuff available there? (aside from Biollante which uses a similar script to dub IIRC)

>>24071452
I realized while watching Minus Zero; In the next movie, Noriko is going to have a connection to Godzilla without the transponder, so Godzilla is going to follow the Shikishimas everywhere they go.

>>24071456
The reprisal with the near Biblical shot of Godzilla blasting Ghidorah to oblivion was perfection, fucking goosebumps all over.

>>24071604
Aki-chan gets a kaiju uncle.

>>24071605
The behind/below shot of Ghidorah getting blasted looked a lot like a shot in KOTM right before Mothra showed up in Boston. Noda's death was so similar, too, and Kevin just can't catch a break

It was kind of weird how abruptly the movie stopped caring about Ghidorah. Once the shockwave hit, the camera never even looked in the direction where it blew up.

>>24071607
I don't know why a lot of people complained about that, I thought it just meant the double blast is powerful enough to vaporize ghidorah entirely. It's so fucking cool.

>>24071608
Yeah, but they need to show us the vaporization happening. Imagine if in A New Hope, you don't see the Death Star explode, you just see Luke shoot the torpedoes into the exhaust port, and then immediately cut to the Rebels flying away. We want to SEE the villain losing on-screen, we don't want to have to assume it happened off-camera.

Ghidorah growing 2 heads was a thing of beauty.

>>24071616
It implies ghidorah isn't even on godzilla's level if he got serious and I liked that

Was the fuel/air munition dud a reference to Enola Gay navigator Theodore Van Kirk when he recounted that over Hiroshima "After about 40 seconds...I was sure it was going to be a dud-it wasn't going to work".

Honestly? Ghidorah threw. He used his gravity powers on Godzilla once at the the start of the fight for a trailer shot and then immediately forgot he had them.

Noriko becomes Harugon's mom.

Godzilla +1 needs to have Manda and Megalon

Godzilla -2

>>24071619
The only way to show Godzilla is tough is to have important story events happen off-screen? The fuck are you talking about? Wouldn't it be better to SHOW us how quickly and thoroughly Godzilla's ray overwhelmed and obliterated Ghidorah?

>>24071619
I hate it when Godzilla is portrayed as the most powerful being ever and I hate the autistic powerlevelfags that suck him off like DBZfags do with Goku. I'm fine with Godzilla being an unstoppable threat to humans, but when other kaiju enter the picture, Godzilla should really struggle against them so there's actual tension instead of having him stomp them every time he gets serious just because of some "king of monsters" bullshit.

>>24071634
As much as I really liked the movie, it felt as if a lot of the CGI sequences in the finale didn't get finished by the ship date and so they had to leave those out and just have them happen off-screen. Like Ghidorah vaporizing and more of the American attacks hitting Godzilla. I'd absolutely be willing to bet that the BD will have them restored.

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>>24071635
Bizarrely, in an indirect way, it's the fault of the Gamera trilogy. And, as someone who's been watching it unfold in real time, allow me to explain:
>The '90s Gamera movies have the monsters getting TORN UP; Gamera gets sliced and impaled and dismembered every five minutes, the Gyaos get splattered everywhere, Legion loses legs, Iris gets his chest ripped out... They're more like giant animals than the impervious tanks of the Heisei Godzilla movies.
>Godzilla comes back with Godzilla 2000, which clearly wants some of the Gamera trilogy's critical success, and is seemingly aping the "serious consequences" of the trilogy, with Godzilla's ray shearing whole chunks of flesh off of Orga, which it has never done to an enemy before. In the next movie, Godzilla's ray is a one hit kill to the titular foe, Megaguirus.
>The next movie, GMK. Godzilla's the villain now. How do we up the stakes? His ray's even stronger! The most iconic visual from the film is the mushroom cloud that results from Godzilla's ray. Aside from that, whereas one could argue that Megaguirus was only a Kamacuras or Ebirah-level threat, Godzilla's ray is now capable of killing foes on the level of Baragon, Mothra, and King Ghidorah in only one or two hits.
>Godzilla doesn't do anything too crazy in the two Kiryu movies, but as we all know, they more than make up for it in the next movie, Godzilla: Final Wars. They go apeshit with Godzilla's unstoppable-ness, wiping out most of Earth's monsters with just a single move, and even "big threats" like Gigan and Monster X don't prove too much of a challenge before dying. I guess they had Keizer Ghidorah overpower him for a couple minutes cause I guess there had to be tension at some point before the movie ended.
>Shin Godzilla. There's no other monster for him to powerscale against, but the main attack sequence where he reduces Tokyo to a sea of fire just by sweeping his breath beam across the city... Goddamn if it isn't fucking apocalyptic.

1/2

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>>24071653
2/2
>The anime trilogy. I only watched the first one but even in that one he's a fucking three-thousand foot tall planet destroyer that no other kaiju can touch. I can only imagine what feats he displayed when dealing with City Mechagodzilla and Void Ghidorah.
>What's even stronger than a planet destroyer? A reality destroyer! Singular Point turns Godzilla into some weird Eldritch horror living supercomputer thing that will destroy all of reality just by existing long enough? Or something? Also he steals the Shin Godzilla "sea of fire" feat.
>The Gemstone shorts has him able to power up into a "white ray" form when pushed to his limit, which is so powerful it can destroy about as much city as Shin Godzilla, if not more so, in only a few seconds. It can also slice monsters like Megalon in half.
>While admittedly a necessity of the short run time, the live action shorts nevertheless have Godzilla beating Hedorah, Gigan, Jet Jaguar, Monster X, and Keizer Ghidorah without much effort after very short fights, with only King Ghidorah proving any noticeable challenge.
>Minus One. This is probably the "weakest" Godzilla has been since the pre-Final Wars movies, but his atomic ray is still presented as a devastating nuclear bomb-level weapon. It's probably only about the same as GMK's ray, power wise, give or take, but it LOOKS far more destructive. Minus Zero also shows us that he can double charge his ray when he really needs to, though we don't really get a decent idea on how strong this ray is other than it takes out Ghidorah pretty fucking quick.

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>>24071654
3/2 I thought I'd be able to fit this in the second post, but I was mistaken.

This is why, love them or hate them, I like the MonsterVerse movies so much. While he has his moments of strength, Godzilla's more or less as vulnerable as he was in the Showa movies. The MUTOs kicked his ass and needed to be separated in order for him to win, Ghidorah almost killed him and would have if not for Mothra's sacrifice, and Mechagodzilla whooped his ass pretty soundly and would've killed him if not for Kong's intervention. Skar King didn't seem to pose too much of a threat to him, but his main threat was his ape army, anyway. He was a leader, not a fighter.

Noriko will become Biollante
Koichi will pilot Jet Jaguar
The Soviets will make Mecha Godzilla

>>24071654
1/?
I agree that this is the weakest Godzilla in terms of what we've seen the character do in the past, but id say the better choice of word/phrase is the most "realistic" Toho Godzilla.

MinusGoji is a mutated animal in these films and not an ever evolving creature. He's a natural creature forced into an unnatural form that he's still adjusting to.
Before being nuked we saw how agile, precise and fast the Godzillasaur was on Odo Island, now compared that to his final form where he stumbles around and is extremely slow. Unintentional or not, he moves like the Hiroshima survivors we saw in the film.

Aside from appearance, MinusGoji hasn't changed from the previous film. We can't even say his double charge Atomic Breath was new because there was never a need to do it before, unless you count him possibly "overcharging it" at the end of Minus One.

>>24071634
I could've sworn there's a big explosion at the end of the atomic breath scene, am I crazy?

>>24071635
That's just how it is now. The anime godzilla where the lead looked like gintoki is even some cosmic apocalyptic thingy.

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>>24071635
>Godzilla should really struggle against them
Did you even watch the movie?

I'm very thankful for this thread. The threads on /tv/ for Minus Zero have been atrocious. I don't get why because /tv/ had good Godzilla threads in the past.
>>24071571
I think a person will appreciate Final Wars more if they know its background (see >>24071580) and enjoyed several Godzilla movies before hand. Its a really fun movie, very entertaining. It was basically a love letter to the series as a final send-off (at the time). You can jump into it while not watching any of the Heisei era movies. However, a lot of Showa era movie monsters do show-up in it re-imagined, which is why it was kind of crazy at the time for audiences to see someone like King Caesar, last seen in 1974, show up in a 2004 movie.

>>24071582
Biorante. Though, they are only scrubs. Not full-on resubs.

>>24071608
because its like if the antag got shot offsreen. Really it felt cut-off. We should've seen king Ghidorah get vaporized or something. And why no rain this time?

>>24071598
Thanks these is super useful, Ive been mainly watch godzilla in sub and will stick to thank for my first watches but these seem like fun to check out on rewatches. i was mainly under the impression that most of the dubs would be shitty voiceovers like how most modern language dubs are lately so if there above average ill look in to them

also are the subs for these movies hard to come by or are they also readily avaliable in a single place if you know where to lookor atleast some torrent site has them?

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>>24071347
yellow fever chads... we won

>>24071619
>abruptly cutting away from the fight without showing the end of Ghidorah is good because Godzilla is better
Actually one of the most retarded things I've ever seen posted.
At that point just don't even make the fucking movie because Ghidorah is so beneath Godzilla it's not worth giving him screentime at all.

That Ghidorah scene is even weirder when you remember how many scenes there are of people burning and exploding in realistic detail

>>24071347
I'm working on quitting porn, and this chick makes me wanna look up Japanese girls spreading their assess.

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>>24071722
I within the past 2 years did picrel as the watch order to get someone up to speed on godzilla
Final wars is too much of a mess, but imo the humans are more watchable than the monsters since the monsters are borderline masturbatory
Also on that note biollante has the most "director was on uppers" pacing and the music was fucking nuts
Reminds me of
>Someone thought the most droning, annoying high pitched sound ever was an acceptable thing to do for minutes at a time in '84

All this to say most people's favorite/beloved godzilla movies aren't very pleasant to watch

>>24071871
This is fucking retarded.

Way too early to call it, but there's no way it's Top5, and even putting it in Top 10 I'd be suspicious.
Minus One was really good despite being a retread/homage/whatever to the original, Zero to me was everything Godzilla rolled up into a movie, so despite the inconsistencies it felt like a showcase of all the good parts and I liked it a bit more even if it is more flawed.
>show the American plan, then don't ever mention it again
>Grandpa does a 180º on his revenge on a flashback
>Ghidorah "dies" offscreen
>abandon girl, go back for girl, abandon girl, pick up girl anyway
All of that kind of sucks and I can understand it bothering some people more than it bothered me, I just felt like this was a few steps closer to the Godzilla movies I enjoy. That said, I don't want a third one, and I don't really want a Shin 2 either though. Unless Shin 2 goes completely off the rails with something like Shin Ultraman showing up out of nowhere.

I really don't understand why they bothered with the detail that Godzilla appeared "at the exact same time" as King Ghidorah's rebirth. As if the two were somehow connected. Godzilla didn't care about Ghidorah until he was baited to him with a hot asian waifu.

>>24071455
>>24071457
my hearing my have been damaged by The Odyssey because I didn't think it was as loud as that, just right

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Lol at operating costs like this Hollywood is a fucking racket

>>24071962
>20 million, maybe 40 tops with marketing
Hollywood is fucking over.

>>24071962
thats what happens when you dont have union workers or mega-stars demanding $20m each

>>24071962
I think Japan just has smarter more talented people in charge of these things.

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>>24071995
They know where to cut their losses, even if it means having PS2 crows and missing scenes.

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>>24072021

>>24072021
must be time for your meds yes?

>>24071580
>TOHO wants to kill the IP

None of that is true

>>24072015
>PS2 crows and missing scenes
oh it's this retard bitching again

>>24071347
The crying and self-victimization of the japs over the nukes is hilarious.

They massacred and raped their way across Asia, started a war with someone they couldn’t ever hope to beat, got BTFO 6 months into the war, died in massively lopsided battles for 3.5 more years, had to get nuked to cut the shit then got rebuilt by a powerful more merciful than them and STILL 80 years later act like they’re the victim

They should show some gratitude towards the US for building Japan into what it became. Even pre-war Japan was an impoverished shithole run by maniacs. Japans HDI in 1939 was worse than Egypt or Turkey or any country in Latin America

Fuck this sob story garbage Ghidorah did nothing wrong

Someone didn't like the dream sequence it seems.

>>24071962
The reason it’s cheaper in Japan is:

1.) lower cost of living (caused by manufacturing based economy, everybody working, low rate of welfare usage, declining population)
2.) they will work harder and grueling hours for little pay
3.) minimal unionization

Granted this is being reversed slowly in Japan as well. This movie had a significantly higher budget than Minus One, almost entirely because the staff demanded better working conditions and shorter work days. This is the same reason you have years between anime seasons now and the standard season is 8-13 episodes now instead of 26-50 like it used to be 20 years ago

The rot that has consumed Hollywood is already in Japan and is spreading, just slower. Compare the talent and efficiency in Japanese productions 15 years ago vs. today and it’s obvious

>>24072015
Doomsday will definitely break even and more. The latest Spider-Man made over 1.5 billion. I can see it hitting $2 billion and then having an over $500 million profit

The MCU is not dead. People all over the world will still flock for capeshit. They just don’t care about anything outside of the phase 1-3 era or literal who streaming characters (hence why spider man did well)

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>tfw you lived long enough to see godzilla nuke manhattan

>>24072047
god i'm glad my media literacy is competent enough to not make posts as retarded as this

>>24072057
Already did it in 1998 more or less

>>24072059
there is a lot of woe-is-me stuff with Hiroshima (as if it wasn’t deserved and necessary) and the US plays an overly antagonist role in the film while IRL in 1949 they were spending the equivalent of hundreds of billions in today’s dollars rebuilding Japan into a model society far better than it was prior while the rest of Asia languished under communism

>>24072052
>This is the same reason you have years between anime seasons now and the standard season is 8-13 episodes now instead of 26-50 like it used to be 20 years ago
This doesn't even make any sense
Macross 7 was fucking 50 episodes and nothing happens for 36 of them
And with the new reliance on CG you don't even need action animators for mecha

>>24072057
>>24072060
And '98 wasn't even the first time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edcOnAMczas

>>24072060
The army did more damage to the city than godzilla did
Lest we forget the subs torpedoing themselves

>>24072063
not a nuke. you know what i mean stop trying to flex your goji knowledge.

>>24072061
Shut the fuck up dude the only guy in the entire movie to truly hate America isn't even painted as morally or ethically in the green
Which you would know if you had checked your /pol/ at the door
You're a fucking embarrassment for posting that during peak non-american hours as well so it has to be non Americans thinking Americans such as yourself are fucking dumb

>>24072062
Not him, but anime takes far longer to make now. Something like FMA Brotherhood or HxH 2011 that was released continually over a year without much pause would now take like 8 years to make like attack on titan was. There’s a reason one piece aired weekly from 1999 to 2025 but now takes 6 month hiatuses to give you 13 episodes

A lot of this is due to younger staff demands for better conditions (infamously boiling over into quasi riots for jujutsu Kaisen season 2) as well as excessive outsourcing to Korea and India (yes, anime studios are starting to use Indian VFX companies to save cost)

>>24072068
i knew yanks would get their knickers in a twist about it by completely ignoring everything else in the movie and only focusing on the very few scenes that could be seen as anti-american out of context

i can see the youtube thumbnails from grifters now

>>24072072
Is the carnage of that scene gratuitous? Yes
But in context it makes perfect sense that Japanese Dr hell man would cream his pants at the americans being obliterated
The movie is 2 fucking hours long and of all the things the movie makes sure to include it's the motive for that man's fantasy
It just makes sense
I fucking hate political extremists because regardless if the quality of something the second something appears that upsets them all logic and reason goes right out the door in order to frame some bullshit narrative justification for being upset
It's not even media literacy at that point, it's just pure stupidity

I knew americans would hate the movie when the fat guard at the army base showed up

I'm American and I loved the dream sequence and the soldiers speaking engrish. I wish the scientist didn't turn good so the final battle could have been Godzilla and Ghidorah leveling NY.

>>24072082
>Yes let's logistically inexplicably have an unprecedented weather front that baits king Ghidorah to new York
>Let's also have literally the only established ethically ambiguous character somehow pull a pilot out of his ass to fly the float plane all the way to New York
You fuckin wot

>>24072085
1. Just rewrite it so the resonance machine attracts both of them or just have Ghidorah chase after Godzilla.
2. Have the bomber pilots defect because all the fighters that died in the Ghidorah attack were using repurposed American planes.

>>24072089
My honest problem is Godzilla isn't taking the suez fucking canal to nyc
San Fran or Hawaii (lol) makes more sense

>>24072082
>engrish
Retard.

I found it unsatisfying on all fronts. The drama fell flat and there was far too little kaiju action. Magnitudes worse than Minus One.

>>24072099
They were stilted as fuck and it was very clear they were being directed by someone who didn't speak English as a first language.

>>24072104
Retard.

>>24072104
Ive seen mechagodzilla 2 and shin as a basis for what I'm about to say:
The wypipo sounded fine
Noda was incomprehensible though compared to kayoko

>>24072079
Japs coping that their own government starved them so they could keep raping kids in China

>>24072052
>>24072070
>This is the same reason you have years between anime seasons now and the standard season is 8-13 episodes now instead of 26-50 like it used to be 20 years ago
>A lot of this is due to younger staff demands for better conditions (infamously boiling over into quasi riots for jujutsu Kaisen season 2) as well as excessive outsourcing to Korea and India (yes, anime studios are starting to use Indian VFX companies to save cost)
Neither of these statements are true, though. The working conditions have gotten worse than what they used to be, not better. Some of the big companies treat their employees worse than what they used to, not better. MAPPA and Madhouse got fucked because of getting too cocky and treating everybody that worked for them like shit, demanding impossible results from unreasonable deadlines. The same thing happened with old anime except then you'd get an episode that looks like South Park.

The outsourcing part is real, but you need to remember anime doesn't get made out of thin air voluntarily, the nature of the contracts signed with distributors, publishers, and everybody else has changed significantly. They need to PAY for the anime to be made and that includes the schedule, timeslot, TV station, or if it's a Netflix deal where they get shafted.

There are still plenty of anime that air for 50 episodes straight mostly without interruptions save for holidays or broadcasting days off, they didn't cease to exist. They don't make 50 episode mecha shows because it's not something anybody wants to watch. You go back to those old mecha shows, and you'll immediately notice most of them were cheap as hell because they needed to use the time wisely, so there's a lot of repeated animation, detailed backgrounds but simple colors on moving things, etc.

None of these factors have anything to do with Minus Zero having a tighter budget, that's them running a tighter ship.

>>24072118
That doesn't even make sense
There's "families of soldiers" groups that lay the blame squarely on the Japanese government

>>24072119
Saging to add this because I forgot, the vast majority of shows 20 years ago were still 12-13 episodes and not 26-50. Those are the shows you remember. It's the same argument as "man they don't make them like they used, to back in the 90s everything was as good as Bebop, Evangelion and Outlaw Star!" when that is not even remotely true.

>>24072119
Cue the gif of the ultraman film crew hurling dirt at the actors to simagr earthshaking action

>B-BUT TRUMPPPPPP
Rent free.

Surprised it took this many threads for it to devolve into this kindergarten faggotry.

>>24072109
but not a liar

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>>24072104
This is fairly common. When I went to see The Eight Hundred (which is a fucking damn good movie) the limeys and the amerifags just sounded odd. Like a cross between Indrid Cold and Mr. Rogers.

>>24071962
By conversion is 2.8 billion yen which is a lot in japan

>>24072119
>The working conditions have gotten worse than what they used to be, not better
Animators used to drop dead during Tomino's days, that would be inconceivable nowadays as it would be a massive PR disaster for the studios.
>There are still plenty of anime that air for 50 episodes straight
Not nearly as many as there used to be, most of the current long-runners are either legacy shows or stuff with a big franchise behind them like Doraemon, Conan or Precure. Even the big popular shonen series, which used to have uninterrupted 50+ episode runs as the standard, are coming out in that "one 12-episode season per year" release format now.

>>24072130
>Alright now, you miserable little people of Tokyo...

>>24072166
He was so polite. "News item coming up".

If there ends up being a third film, would Yamazaki have the pull do go with an original monster? people's reasons for having a third movie be about Hedorah or whoever is solid but I feel like if he's confident enough doing writing/directing he'd like to have his own monster story.

>>24072171
You'll get Mechagodzilla and you'll like it.

>>24072165
>Animators used to drop dead during Tomino's days
Fairly sure that's still happening, but in an outsourced studio in God knows where, and those were still extreme cases. I'm not really denying that people are asking for better work conditions, but that's a byproduct of it getting a worse baseline.
>Even the big popular shonen series, which used to have uninterrupted 50+ episode runs as the standard, are coming out in that "one 12-episode season per year" release format now.
That's down to profit and how the new contracts work. Anime is more profitable than it's ever been, more popular than it's ever been, world-wide.
Less "constant" work in favor of more "focus" work on less episodes, to make 2-4x the profit they would otherwise with a higher quality product. Why would you approve a 26 episode 4/10 show if you can approve a 13 episode 8/10 show for less cost, higher quality, easier negotiations with TV stations/Netflix and make even more profit?
There's a couple of studies and reports on the economy of the whole thing and this is simply the best way for studios to work with licenses and licensees, and everyone is happy except the consumer (and animators at MAPPA).

>>24071423
>>24071423
its worth the hearing damage but also
>>24071493 is right, that kid has some pipes on her and its louder than an Incantation concert

>>24072171
It has to be Bagan as others have stated. Its the only thing that makes sense and would be a hell of a send off for the Minus series.

>>24072146
They sound better than when americans put a random chicano to play a native spanish speaking character.

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Will Toho keep with this Minus one-zero continuity with or without Yamazaki for future movies? Or do they make Shin Goji 2/another 1954 timeline sequel in the meantime because it seems Yamazaki is doing other movies now

>>24072208
The opposite is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oatJFHekMcA

>>24072256
This was the dream of an old Japanese schizo

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>>24071452

I legitimately thought I somehow zoned out or fell asleep and missed a scene when the military gave the order to attack Godzilla. The whole time I'm just wondering why they're attacking now when the plan was to pick off the winner and Ghidorah was still going. But I guess they just forgot to include the scene where Ghidorah died.

>>24072354
The bombardment started after Ghidorah was dead. Aoyama says "It's starting" and then it cuts to everyone looking solemn and Akiko praying.

I took my normalfag sister whose only exposure to godzilla was the 1998 movie to the cinema and she had no trouble following or understanding the plot, I think you guys might just be a little retarded.

>>24072052
>he doesn't know about the difference between white companies and black companies

>>24072171
I would be happy with any direction after how he handled Godzilla and King Ghidorah. Original monster would be cool, but I think someone like Destoroyah or Hedorah would be sick too.

>>24072390
dude after what King Ghidorah did to poor Godzilla. I fear for his life if they pick Gigan or fucking DESOTORYAH kek.

>>24072187
>but that's a byproduct of it getting a worse baseline.
But these modern Japanese animators are not actually under worse working conditions than their predecessors, they're just more willing to speak up and their plight reaches more people than it did before because of things like social media

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my normie sisters liked -1 and -0

>>24072368
when you enter a tokusatsu thread you should've expected to deal with people under 90iq

>>24072368
The problem isn't the plot being hard to follow. It's just bad.

nobody outside this thread complained about how the movie is edited, not even the troll engagement accounts. it's literally just you retards

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>>24072207
Honestly, Bagan and Destroyah are the same kaiju concept. I know this might be a completely out there opinion, but think about it. Both are heavily devil themed, and both are allegedly Godzilla's ultimate opponent. Destroyah just benefits (and is the reason why his movie got greenlit) from the Oxygen Destroyer connection, while Bagan is just "he's super powerful because he is".

>>24072492
There's been mixed reviews that criticize it for poor pacing and editing. That's the real problem here. It isn't impossible to understand, it just needed maybe one more week in the editing room.

>>24072498
>poor pacing and editing
Watch more godzilla movies.

>>24072501
>showa was bad so it's fine to have bad editing
Weird argument, but okay.

kek of course the tourist hates godzilla in general

>>24072501
Minus One, you know, the prequel to this movie, was extremely well done with its pacing and editing. This one wasn't as good in those respects, so people are going to notice and compare

>>24072494
>while Bagan is just "he's super powerful because he is".
If anything, that describes Destoroyah. Bagan is usually portrayed as either a corrupted Earth guardian (Mothra vs. Bagan) or an alien weapon infused with Godzilla and Ghidorah DNA (Super Godzilla). Sure, neither are particularly ground-breaking, but they're still a bit more interesting than Destoroyah's "And then there's THIS asshole..."

>>24072360
And before that the last you see is Godzilla and Ghidorah firing off their beams before cutting away and never seeing Ghidorah again. Sure, Ghidorah got hit. But without seeing a body, or hell, even him falling over, my first thought isn't going to be "well that's the end of him". Really kicked the wind out of the finale. As much as these movies get off on showing the aftermath of destruction, not showing how bad Godzilla's double heat ray mangled Ghidorah is really freaking lame.

>bagan
This is why you can't discuss godzilla online, it's just a bunch of retards that spend all day reading wikis and youtube videos.

>>24072508
Your post reads like bait. No, I'm serious. Destroyah's entire concept is "a monster made from the weapon that destroyed the first godzilla". Of course he's going to be powerful, and he also has the Hedorah "multiple creatures make up one body" angle.
Bagan isn't even "infused with Godzilla and Ghidorah DNA" (which arguably we got in Minus Zero anyway), he's basically a weird Chinese chimera who, again, is powerful because he is.
>>24072511
My thoughts exactly. I only know about him because of the Super Godzilla game, and nobody cares about that in 2026.

>>24072510
Well watch the entire cast after that. Unless Ms. Aoyama said "Fuck it nobody even look or pay any attention to that King Ghidorah running around over there.... Just ignore his ass" off screen they are not in any way acting like he is still alive or present in any way.

>>24072510
>>24072535
no that is a actual fair critique. Its like they forgot a small scene. I'm going to assume we all were supposed to just remember minus one's heat ray is a literal fucking nuke so yea ghidorah was vaporized and the blast was him dying. It just would've helped to see him get fucking literal melted. Maybe they didnt want to copy the kotm's death? It also pissed me off that they cut Goji's victory roar pre maturely.

>>24072541
I'll be honest. When I first saw it and then just LAZORS BAM GONE I was like "ahhhhhhh" he dead?

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>>24072404
>Godzilla's face when humans keep tricking him back on land to fight super aliens and giga demons for them

>>24072470
im not surprised

>>24072404
He'll just use his Serious Atomic Breath to vaporize them instantly once he's had enough of their shit.

Watching minus 1 again before seeing zero... I feel like the parts at the beginning where t-rex godzilla is picking dudes up in his teeth before throwing them is some weird mandate. Like some higher up went "what, we can't have godzilla biting a guy in half!" so they had him toss them away instead.

Which reminds me how they made fun of american godzilla for eating fish... does he just not eat anything lmao. You'd think they'd be at least ok with eating krill like a whale or something.

>>24072681
Okay, any other groundbreaking ideas?

>>24071456
That got me hyped. The plane zooming into the camera sealed it as the most exciting Shikishima moment in the film

>>24071871
>Someone thought the most droning, annoying high pitched sound ever was an acceptable thing to do for minutes at a time
But enough about Akiko.

Square Enix helped with the mocap of the Minus movies.
Interesting how Square was pioneering mocap in Japan.

They were one of the first to do mocap, specifically for Final Fantasy VIII, and they made Parasite Eve so they could experiment with mocap and prepare for FF8.

>>24072685
>>24072681
Heisei was the only timeline to explicitly confirm Godzilla's species is carnivorous or omnivorous

>>24071937
The only actual bad thing on that list is the prof changing his mind after an asspull flashback. The rest are just autists being autists.

>>24072743
>asspull flashback

>>24072124
Lol don’t look up child marriages in muh Palestine

Also Japan didn’t even have an age of consent until the US installed government and hundreds of thousands of Korean and Chinese and even Japanese (via being sold into debt slavery) kids were used as sex slaves by the Japanese army

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>>24072789
good goy

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>>24072681
The Japanese ONLY hated 1998 because of nationalistic reasons and realized they put Godzilla on hiauts after Destroyah for no good reason. There is absolutely nothing in 1998 that isn't found elsewhere in the Godzilla catalog (Godzilla being a 'realistic for the time' dinosaur was in 1954, bad dialogue and comedic actors is found throughout mid-to-late Showa, Godzilla's atomic breath not being a big deal in 1954, 'if we don't stop them now they'll overrun the Earth' was in Hedorah and Destroyah and even in Shin), and even Minus One heavily implies that Godzilla eats fish. It's really his only option. He can either eat fish or whales, and functionally there's not much difference other than there's far more of the former and he'd quickly run out of the latter.

I tire of 1998 slander. It wasn't the absolute best movie ever, it wasn't my first exposure to Godzilla, it wasn't anything. They shit on a perfectly entertaining 90's disaster flick, but say nothing about the bores that are Ebirah or Revenge. Even Heisei and Millenium eras never fully gets criticized for their constant reuse of Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla to the point where both monster's origins are now detached from their original concepts. I really like the Black Hole apemen aliens, but too bad I guess I have to sit through another "humans made Mechagodzilla" movie devoid of ideas.

>>24072841
bro, it's a shit movie

>>24072841
>The Japanese ONLY hated 1998 because of nationalistic reasons
Most people hate 1998, it's trash.

>>24072841
That's a lot of bait.

zoomers really think 98 is some kind of hidden gem huh

>>24072751
googled it for you
>An asspull (or ass-pull) is a slang term in storytelling and media criticism for a plot twist, power-up, or narrative detail that is introduced suddenly and without prior setup, logic, or internal consistency

>>24072859
good thing it's neither of those things

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>>24072848
>>24072852
>>24072853
Notice you have no arguments for why it is bad or why anything I said is wrong, just "well a lot of people think this way so therefore it is so". And if there are complaints against it, it can be summarized as "Simpsons actors (nothing to do with the film itself), Godzilla doesn't look right (wow, we got a whole new kaiju out of the movie, how terrible), Godzilla doesn't have atomic breath (something so irrelevant that the original 1954 movie never mentions it), and the climax has baby Godzilla which are just raptors from JP (and the Destoroyah juvenile forms are just Aliens from Aliens, so what?)". It's always the same braindead parroted critiques, nobody actually goes into anything of substance like the change from American atomic tests to French atomic tests (which on one hand robs America of responsibility, but on the other hand adds a French international element that I think is a good idea in some respect). You don't hate 1998, you're told to hate it.
Try watching Godzilla's Revenge and tell me 1998 is bad by comparison. I actually have reasons to hate that movie, unlike 1998 where the worst thing about it is that it's a disaster movie from the 90's.

>>24072871
I'm not gonna bother refuting anything of what you said because your entire thesis is "well this happened before already (kinda, if you skew your eyes a bit, see?)" which you decided to list again one by one for some reason, nobody cares if you like one of the shittiest godzilla movies, it's a franchise full of subpar entries and retarded fans so you fit right in, you are not special

Does anyone have a picture of the leaked Playmates Spacegodzilla? I missed it, I only saw Galactic Godzilla and S&M Kong.

>>24072929
I doubt it's very good looking. It's probably some neon vomit overtop an existing Godzilla model

>>24072871
I like 1998
Ironically the only time it's shit is when Godzilla is on screen and imo a movie where Godzilla is an ever present but elusive threat somehow seems better. Godzilla just looks terrible in 2026

What if Ghidorah is the progenitor of the other monsters to come, due to his alien cells and the G-cells? He is patient zero, or monster zero?

>>24072171
it has to be one that would look good in the hyper-realistic style he goes for, so that rules out most of them. Best fit would be Biollante imo

>>24072681
>Gojira eats a person
>brain chemical make me happy
its that simple

>>24072492
nah a few of my normie friends i saw it with mentioned it almost immediately after leaving the cinema. There's definitely a few odd editing decisions in there but nothing too egregious.

needed moar kaiju noriko and that sexo eye

>>24072492
>I'm going to lie on the internet to defend me liking this movie instead of accepting a fun movie can have flaws, and nobody will notice

>>24073054
>hyper-realistic style
americans just say anything at this point

What were the figs in the ad before the movie started? Burst or something?

>>24073073
youre outing yourself as a retard because hyperrealism is a very real style.

So was Monarch season 2 worth watching or nah? I thought the first was kind of a slog to get through so I never bothered with the second

>>24072503
>showa bad
kill yourself

>showa good
Grow a brain.

>Showa has its ups and downs
Kill your brain.

>>24073093
Monarch is genuinely awful.

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Did you like the tease for Shin Evangelion ?

>>24072743
I disagree, the American plan is completely forgotten about and changes at the end with no explanation or even a hint to it. Ghidorah gets pushed offscreen, there is no body, and then everybody says "oh well time to attack Godzilla now", and the thing with Akiko was needlessly melodramatic when they could've just picked her up in the first place and ran. Which they did eventually do anyway and wanted to do in the first place before the operation, so what the fuck?
All of these are valid complaints and not just autism. Well, maybe the thing about the plans are, but I genuinely thought that was leading somewhere.

>Pros
Better Fight Scenes, more tense and better directed action.
>Cons
Human drama is a bit much this time around. Constant repetition and wonky development.

Is this around right? Watched it recently and honestly I just want to watch it again just for the first Ghidorah fight with the fighter jets. Loved it better than The Odyssey desu.

>>24073141
Another retard that didn't pay attention, I wonder if americans just got really botched subtitles.

I get the point of the "american" acting, I actually don't mind it (i love RE1 voice acting) but I think it would've been better if they're a more "mysterious" force. Like it would've been better if they talked more about the americans rather than shown them. Dunno if it'll be "realistic" though. Just them being "sorta" evil and a diabolos ex machina was kinda lame.

>>24073157
They are not "evil", just playing 4d chess against the soviets and japan and godzilla are pieces in the board.

I honestly thought they should have went even harder with the character scenes. Noriko and Koichi seemingly were married out of circumstance in the first movie so it would have made a lot of sense to have some romance scenes to really cement their relationship. Maybe they were thinking that's not normal for a 50s couple though.

I wanted a scene where Noriko makes out with her freaky monster eye

>>24073151
Enlighten us anon

>>24073165
In the paradigm of the movie, the US is definitely "bad". They're trying to use Godzilla as a weapon and they're "hunting" down our MCs. I just felt they would've been more threatening if we just didn't see them and if we didn't have that scene of "mwahahaha we're holding one thing back from the japanese mwahahahaha godzirrra will be oursss mwahahaha". I think in general the movie could've had a few cuts and would've been better for it.

>>24073151
Nta but correct me if I'm wrong
>Continuing from minus one the Americans have zero desire to kill godzilla
>PlanB was in effect all along, maybe the FAEB/MOAB was faulty experimental tech but it was definitely consistent with US interests
The US limit testing with Godzilla in -1 was possibly an allegory for weapons testing

>>24073171
>I just felt they would've been more threatening if we just didn't see them
Yeah but they already did that in minus one

>>24073141
>they could've just picked her up in the first place and ran
It's basically a melodrama version of will they wont they in romcom, for some reason westerners really hate these but I thought they provide interesting tension as long as they don't span years.

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>>24073217
Time to arson your nearest 7-eleven.

>>24073151
Anon they are literally not present in the movie after the scene with the plan all the way until the end. It's not a matter of paying attention, they are not there at all.
>>24073157
>>24073171
For what it's worth, the US did actually treat Japan that way after the war. Helping with a big smile while working to fuck them over behind their back, which they did a few decades later once Japan got good a little too fast. I just don't think those scenes should've been that early in the movie. Having some dudes that look completely average do that instead of something like having a comically evil looking Major raise eyebrows at them in the distance is more realistic.

>>24073253
>It's not a matter of paying attention
It is because the characters keep talking about what the american's involvement is.

>>24073257
Are you confusing what they said at the start with the "America will bomb whoever's left" thing?

Bottom line is nobody thought the fuel-air would Kill Ghidorah. Even when he was just lounging and taking a nap. Noda was like "Ahhh fuck we need a plan b" and the dude at command was like "THEY BOUGHT IT HEHEHEHE" and then Major Gilbert busted out the folder hoping for his chance to use the leftover nuke.

>>24073093
2nd season was worse. Dropped it half way through. Was an utter chore to watch and even less monsters than season 1

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>>24073137
>Shin Evangelion
Already exists

>>24073315
Fuck off duel.

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>>24073318
Total misfire /m/an. Like when Goji fired the first blast at Ghidorah. I don't know what you were aiming for, but you missed it.

>>24073299
All that kept me going through the first season was the Keiko and young/old Lee dynamic, and that seemed resolved after the finale, I didn't give the second a chance because from a distance it looked like something being made when they didn't actually expect to get picked up for a second season

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>>24072043
List of Toho statements of "we're putting Godzilla away for the next few decades due to low profits/out of ideas":
>after Terror of Mechagodzilla
Low profits.
>after Destroyah
Out of ideas.
>Final Wars
Out of ideas.

The whole "Showa/Heisei/Millenium/Reiwa" is not some autistic deference to the Emperor. It is a very real marker of the highs and lows of the franchise. Every time an era ends, Toho puts out a statement saying "yeah, Godzilla needs to sleep for like 50 years", and every time an American makes a Godzilla or kaiju movie and makes a billion dollars, Toho says "Nevermind, the KOTM is back! Only Toho knows how to do it right!" And it's not for no reason, because usually Toho does get in a rut and then Hollywood introduces some new idea or technique and Toho decides to fire off a salvo in response. Like Shin for example was Toho dipping their toes into CGI effects (after trying once before in 2000 where they dipped their toes in and decided the water was too cold), which then allowed Minus One to fully embrace the technology. But all this was after 1998 and 2014 used the technology.
It's give and take. Up and down.

>>24073093
No.

>>24073132
It's dumb how the writers are addicted to adding pointless drama that went nowhere. The whole cheating thing could have been cut out entirely to streamline the plot and still keep the fundamental drama.
>dad who was never around the family
>kids find out it's cuz the dad was working for a super secret org
>usual sibling arguments
The entire 'dad has an entire secret family' thing was not necessary and nothing was really resolved. The writers just seem to throw that in for dumb POTTERY "theme" about how it turns out his mom cheated on his dad with the kurt/wyatt russel's character as well. Which ruined the trio's dynamics in the later season. We already know Bill Randa had a shit end in the movies, there's no need to dunk on him even further in the TV flashback.

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>>24073132
What's hilarious about Monarch is that a Youtube analog horror channel does it better, and all because Toho ensures rights for specific monsters are expensive so all the show can do is spend time on irrelevant new ones.
>GUESS WHAT! IT'S TIME FOR YOUR FAVORITE KAUJI! ICE MOLE FACE LIZARD!
Hurray!

Monarch was such a wasted potential. They had a nice premise with the flashback portion, just a couple friends going around studying kaiju. That should have been the entire show, a monster of the week style. If they don't have the budget for new monsters per week, then maybe just do like 3-4 ep arc for each kaiju.

>>24071554
She's mutating dude. Its only going to get worse for her and harder to hide. Their living on borrowed time.

>>24073414
That's not how they make streaming shows. The formula is
>episode one: introduce characters, inciting incident to grab attention
>episodes two through six: HUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRR
>episode seven and eight: "and now for the two part epic finale of season 1 of your new favorite show..."
They're basically movies.

Came back from the theatre and DAMN I can't stop listening to this track now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sxrC8O8iKk

>>24071391
Yes. Minus Zero hinges a lot on your knowledge of the events and characters of Minus One. It's essentially an epilogue for some of the loose hanging threads in Minus One like the fact I love shoving cucumbers up my ass lol hahaha I'm gay and random so zannnnyyyyyy :D

I will never watch it again solely because of Akiko. If you you don't know how to write a child character as anything more than "(obnoxiously loud) crying plot device" don't include them in your film. Just some advice in case any hack writers happen to be reading this.

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>>24073396
really? fuck I should have paid closer attention to her twitter, but I really don't remember a good point in the movie she would have been an extra. One of the hospital scenes?

>>24073456
So no Ifukube remixes this time? also yeah, why not gettin the Ghidrah theme mixes or even the Godzilla vs Rodan theme?

>>24073548
The Godzilla theme comes back, but yeah, that was one disappointment I had from the soundtrack. After the Mothra vs. Godzilla theme had such a triumphant return in Minus One, I was looking forward to some classic Ghidorah-related theme making a similar comeback here.

>>24073414
it isn't uncommon for TV series to have budgets of up to $20m per episode. If they made it in Japan instead every episode could look like minus zero.

>>24073473
Would rather hear a child crying in a movie than read a neckbeard cry about it online.

>>24073591
...and so you thought spending your time on 4chan was a good idea?

>>24073456
mfw playing this in ace combat 8
hell yeah

>>24073054
More realistic/naturalistic monster designs than Ghidorah (or Biollante) from the top of my head
>Gorosaurus
>Zilla
>Anguirus
>Titanosaurus
>King Kong
>Mothra
>Manda
>Varan
>Kumonga
>Kamacuras
>Ebirah
>Rodan
That said any monster design can be scaled to a more "realistic" style and you lack imagination

>>24073610
lol

>>24073744
no shit, anything can fit a different style if you change the design. Point is King Ghidorah was barely changed and looks great because the design fit.

>>24073890
so no existing monster would be ruled out then

>>24073972
Not him, but I think there is a big difference between "this is a standard ghidorah design, with no changes" and "this ghidorah now has gravity beams and is basically The Thing/the Gryphon". Ghidorah in Minus Zero did undergo serious design changes, they were just under the hood.
Like if you were going to have a Minus Anguirus, he'd need some serious changes. Not to his overall design, but to what exactly IS Anguirus in order to make him interesting enough to be included. I want him there, but I don't want what's basically a big dinosaur because there's nothing there that could drive the plot forward.

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>>24073975
>I don't want what's basically a big dinosaur because there's nothing there that could drive the plot forward.
That entirely depends on what the plot is, doesn't it? They could return to his origins in Godzilla Raids Again/Gigantis the Fire Monster and make him essentially a second Godzilla of sorts, make it much more of a "these two are equally matched and may die trying to kill the other" (in comparison to Ghidorah, who was just flat out a more powerful monster).

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>>24073093
Nah. Not even Anna Sawai makes it worthwhile. In fact, she is given almost nothing to do in most of season 2.

>>24073366
The funny thing is Lee is getting his own spin-off for some reason leaving season 3 of the main show to have even less going on.

Seeing it for the second time, about to try DBOX seats for the first time lol

>>24074052
I'm just saying give Anguinus an upgrade. Like in your example, if he actually is a second Godzilla then he needs to have comparable (even if not 1:1) abilities to keep him in the fight and not get one shotted.
Which ironically he basically does in Raids Again.

>>24074109
The DBOX seats would have been too distracting for a first watch, but made a fun gimmick for the second watch

Loudest fucking movie I've seen ever.
That shit was so loud in my local imax theater, the surround system wasn't probably handling it well and it like popping every once in a while.
The moment the movie started and the "filmed in Imax" thing popped up I went like "Man, this can't be healthy"

>>24073217
Glad that movie bombed.

>>24073217
Letting indians have access to the internet is one of the biggest mistakes of modern net culture.

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>Noriko, tonight eyepatch off and full eyes contact...

>>24074454
HAYAKU ! SHOW IT!
GET IN THE ONSEN

>>24074234
Oh, sure. Give him the same level of regeneration Godzilla has, and then projectile spines or something.

>>24073217
Do people even look at imdb rating for currently showing movies?
Everyone already decided which movies to go when the trailer dropped. Funnily enough I didn't even know that indian movie was a thing until I saw it in a theater commercial right before minus zero lmao.

>>24074498
>I didn't even know that indian movie was a thing until I saw it in a theater commercial right before minus zero lmao.
Oh hey, me too.

>>24074454
>Freud: "And as ve can see zee patient is symbolically triumphing over zee source of his trauma by fucking zee female infected with zee G-Cells."

>>24074454
do you think while theyre banging he starts to feel like he's having sex with godzilla

>>24074446
Oh yeah? And what are you gonna do about it?

>>24074539
she SKREEONK when she cums

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>>24074454
Koichi and Noriko's child

>>24074539
That would involve them to be banging. Which they clearly aren't.

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>>24072510
Didn't he fucking explode? I'm quite certain I've seen him explode

>akiko gets taken along at the last minute
what did they mean by this

>>24074668
>R-rated Godzilla
Why didn't they?

do you think koichi plapped noriko during the 2 years or nah

Yamazaki’s films walk a fine line. They are critical of the government and the leaders responsible for the Second World War. However, they valorize the soldiers, who are often presented as true patriots. The Eternal Zero ends with Miyabe finding peace dying for his country. The Great War of Archimedes suggests that Vice Admiral Tadamichi Hirayama (Min Tanaka) deliberately sabotaged the battleship Yamato in the hopes of forcing a surrender and thus saving Japan as a nation.

>>24074815
Family matters. It's better to be with your family in a bad situation than abandoned by them into a moderate situation.

>>24074842
honestly the whole scene felt silly to me not because akiko wouldnt stop screaming but because why the hell didnt they just take her with them in the first place? why even consider abandoning her? they'd be on the run sure but they wouldn't really be in danger.

>>24074844
>being a fugitive in a spook infested country
>not in danger

>>24074454
>They havea son. As he gets older the g-cells overtake him turning him into a monster. Before the military can capture him for research, Godzilla appears to take the child as his own.
>This begins the character arc of this Godzilla becoming a hero.

>>24074836
Koichi strikes me as being low-T like Shinji.

However, from the way that Noda and the people around him talk about it, it seems more likely that he feels guilty over the loss of Japanese lives, implicitly his involvement in the kaiten program, the suicidal human torpedoes. Perhaps the reaction to Godzilla Minus One and Godzilla Minus Zero might be different if they were set in Europe, featuring a group of former Wehrmacht soldiers and a German scientist who knows a lot about creative ways to kill things as they form a militia to defend the German people after Hitler’s suicide.

>>24071347
Worst Godzilla movie, saw it in Imax and gave it a 2/10. Terrible movie, King Ghidorah scenes are the only good parts.

>>24074986
Fuck off duel.

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>>24074837
>The Great War of Archimedes suggests that Vice Admiral Tadamichi Hirayama (Min Tanaka) deliberately sabotaged the battleship Yamato in the hopes of forcing a surrender and thus saving Japan as a nation.
This is one of the most retarded assessments of why the Japanese naval strategy failed I've ever heard.
They did their decisive battle doctrine, and lost at Midway. That's what happens when you pin everything on "one big battle".

>>24075009
whatafuckman

Koichi and Noriko's relationship is platonic. They don't even kiss.

>sexless friendless zoomers can't fathom two people slowly falling in love and living together in the face of adversity

>>24075125
>>24075130
I did get the sense they did love each other but I do also wish they kissed. But desu I didn't see much between MC and his "daughter" Akiko. I was so distracted when Akiko and his wife is crying near the end and he's just like :I until they do the group hug.

I will be keeping a clip of NYC being nuked on speed dial as soon as it releases digital

>>24071407
Cinematic universes are all the rage, and besides Minus One is really easy to recommend because it would still be a solid normie movie if it didn't have Godzilla in it

>>24075125
>sexless couple in the 40s
lmao anon
the reason akiko doesn't have a sibling is probably because of the godzilla cell