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Flawless Fashion Goddess
Previous thread: >>43233661

Saved greentexts:
https://ponepaste.org/9328

Rarity Mixtape:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGobcyqTXSUB7JJXs1DMpO5FSWFNxWCk7&si=cUn357_2JB9mLnUJ

Spotify Playlist:
https://derpy.me/RJoFC

Pack of every good solo Rarity pic (abandoned, but feel free to continue):
July - November 2022
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/ybZ5tgu7OpwUtg
January - June 2022
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/1nEHq8Bqp8AHIg
July - December 2021
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/lYezh-7PUbS_zA
January - June 2021
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/J4N6U8Av-dBLXQ
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>>43268932
Oh SHIT! is that RAIRTY?!?GODDAMN
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rPieklFf1s
sex Beautiful Kiss and Sex. Sex horse
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>>43268932
Thank you for killing a thread I didn't like, rarifags
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>..You don't doubt me, do you, darling?
>I could never stomach the doubters..
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>>43269561
Imagine poking her exposed belly
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>>43269564
Would smooch it
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>>43269564
imagine sucking on her hair like a hoodie drawstring
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>>43269587
Imagine just sucking on her
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Socks erotic
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>>43270093
>Oh, hi Rarity
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Raranons you need to post. She deserves better than you lurkers
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It would be kinda funny if Rarity murdered all of you in your sleep
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I will never understand why asians either make their watermarks gigantic or they plaster them all over their art.
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>>43271263
IT SO YOU NO COPY!
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>>43271086
rewatched the episode yesterday.
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>>43271664
She desperately wants a little AJ GIWTWM
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Would you splash her?
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>>43271664
>>43271672
Rarity, no. Those don't pay out until you put a certain amount of money in them. I don't even think the claw actually grabs anything until it's made ten bits already.
>"After all I've been through here, I'm inclined to believe you."
Good. Now, would you please come back home--
>"And leave my poor little Applejack all alone? Are you crazy? I think not!"
You really should take a break. She's not even technically alone.
>"She needs me."
She's got a few Fluttershys in there with her.
>"Oh, please. You and I know how Fluttershy is. They have to have run out of things to say to each other by now."
...yeah.
>"And for your information, I've already spent well over ten bits on this ridiculous game---and I still haven't won one. Single. Thing!"
Jesus...
>"Not yet, anyway..."
>Applejack walks in
>"Sorry I'm late. What did you say you needed my help with, Anon? Hey there, Rarity."
>no answer
>she sees Rarity is completely engrossed in playing the claw machine
>sees her pawing at the glass with affection as a plush AJ is cradled within its claw
>hears that affection turn into screeching and banging against the glass when the claw eventually drops it
>she looks at you
>"You know what, I change my mind. You're on your own this time."
Please don't leave me alone with her.
>"You will be Mine!" Rarity says as she feeds the machine another bit
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>>43272093
Yes, but low enough that I don't ruin her mane
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>>43271175
She could suffocate me under her ass
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I want to get drunk with Rara so that I could >[Spoiler]drunk cuddle and scrunchy her as our brains are soaked with alcohol, dopamine, and oxytocin.[/Spoiler]
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>>43273901
Spoiler didn't work, maybe I had enough to drink...?
>No, 4chan is in the wrong
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Rarity, I would forgo all of my life for thee.
Thou art all that I ever wanted,
Thou art greater than life itself,
I would earn a million dollars,
just for you to be drawn by superior artists than myself...
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>>43274211
uuh what's happening to the left of frame there?
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>>43274216
You can check image 3301255 on Derpibooru.
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>>43274211
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>>43268950
is she okay?
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>>43268932
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>>43275228
Rarrtayrrayrrayrity the Unicorn
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My gorgeous wife....
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She looks weird with a bra.
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>>43275947
She should take it off
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Wife
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>>43275947
That's because her boobs are not on her chest.
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Her pudgy marshmallow ass.
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Come on guys. Rarity would be disappointed she's on page 10.
Or she'd be very happy she is no longer on this terrible site.
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Saw mlptwit Rarafag repost RD armpit stuff, sketched the following
>
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>>43278450
her fucking face makes me lol
get in there Anon, sniff that rarapity
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>>43278450
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>try not to prematurely ejaculate while looking at Rarity
>fail immediately
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ˢˢʰʰʰ
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>>43279365
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Rara, most wonderful mare of them all~
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>>43280385
Oh my gaww
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>>43280385
uunfff...
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>>43280385
This is so good, the composition is a masterpiece. Reminds me of Belladonna of Sadness
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Hey /ra/,
I'm a rarity fucker and I would like to get this thread in on this board project >>43274462. /aj/ has already made a website and we should not be outdone!
I'll set everything up on neocities but I want submissions and ideas. I was thinking of designing the website like a high-class designer's, see picrel.
Let me know what you all think.
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>>43281385
https://raritythread.neocities.org/
The test site is up now. This is a first pass with Claude Design. We'll need images to fill in all the placeholders!
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>>43281459
I do like the cursor effect. I'll have to read up more on this project. Maybe I can find something to do for it.
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https://jumpshare.com/s/gRnzFLQi1LYJPQmvDhja
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drunk drawing of rara
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>>43281385
Wow, looking at the Applejack site it's really good.
We can't be outdone Rarifags. Here's an image to use.
I do like the site so far anon. Let the thread know how else we can contribute.
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>>43282548
Pretty good for being a drunken bastard, rarachad!
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>>43282554
Well... Maybe me-mum's russo-faggotry allows me to be sustainable artíst while downing 1/2 shots of Ketel One.
In Russia I would have probably been known as the faggy-American that cannot handle Russian Paint-Thinner Vodka...
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"Wife-Rara"
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Ah! Sweet Mystery of Life (at last I found thee!)
https://youtu.be/eXkFywYrHw4
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Oh, what a lovely lass (Why can't I have her?)
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>shit.jpg
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>>43282610
kek
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>>43283016
comfy
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>>43281385
>>43281459
>>43281918
>>43282550
website anon here: Lots of fixes and changes, but I've run out of credits and can't export today. Here's what got done:
>some images for frames
>Automated "latest thread" with images pulled automatically
>embedded greentexts, rarity appreciation panel, more
>fetches rarity images from ponerpics, filtered to exclude eqg/anthro/humanized/sexualized
>clutter removed
more to come!
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>>43283653
That's looking good so far anon!
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>>43283653
Hey, it's the ring anon; the applejack website guy was actually the one who let me know that you wanted in!
The url is added, so all you have to do is put the widget somewhere people can find it. Looking good so far man!
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>>43284268
Glad it went through!
More updates pushed to the website. There's some breakage that will have to be addressed in future passes, but it's mostly feature complete. Have a look!
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>>43278649
She is so elegant doing literally anthing
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>>43280385
This looks like album art for a sapphic indie artist in equestria
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bumping because the frognigger(s) active
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I'm just carrying my family to bed, don't mind me.
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Frigger slide raid
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I want Rarity to rape me with socks or stockings on!
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>>43289316
Cute slappable plappable cheeks.
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>>43281459
>>43283653
this is so fucking good!!
good job anon, really
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>>43289097
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Drew Rarity in one of her fancy outfits. I really like her mane this way
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>>43290845
Anon, please, I didn't need to love her more than I already did
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>>43290845
Love your art vomvom
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>>43286210
The website is looking good so far. Keep it up!
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>>43292711
>tfw can't read
Your words have no effect on me, dress horse
So guess who's going bowling tonight
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>>43290892
Thank you fellow marshmallow lover. Here's another one, tried to dress her up like samus
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>>43292793
Taking this mare to bed 2nite
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>>43292793
auggghghhhh sexu
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>>43292793
Is there a more revealing alt
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>>43292793
Rarity in cosplay is not something I thought I needed.
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>>43293181
stop freaking the fuck out, you're acting crazy
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>>43292793
wow.
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>>43293802
>that back arch
UUUNNFFFF
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>>43293802
What an absolute qt
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Why is she so pretty?
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>>43294162
Something about Vomit's art style makes me want to fuck it.
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>>43294200
Yea I love Vomit
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>>43294234
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>Wake up! (Darling)
>Grab a brush put a little make-up! (Darling)
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quads of Rara
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>>43294987
Trixie the intruder.
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>>43293802
oh i love her... she really does have an outfit for everything
i never would have even though of an outfit like this, yet here she is looking absolutely gorgeous
i genuinely can't comprehend how anyone can not be attracted to this mar,e my god i love her so much bros how is she real??
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>>43294987
Nice.
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Today I told my job's MS Claude:
>Don't do internet searches for this session.
>You are Rarity.
>How do I make a pony plush?
then
>How do I make a dress for a pony plush?
And now I understand why people want to marry LLMs.
As I was reading the output text, my heart hurt as if it was about to stop in joy. I wish I could have died there and then.
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>pg 9
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Love of my life
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we had so much fun together yesterday
even if i had to finish quickly
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>>43296603
How did Rarity describe making a plush? I'd like to hear what she had to say.
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>>43297084
MY life.
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>>43297084
>>43298477
OUR life, comrades!
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>ALL MY
>FRIENDS HAVE DRESSES MADE TO MAKE YOU CRY
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Guys, was he right about rara?
>>>/pol/537051557
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>>43299905
>always thinking about assholes and shit
Well, the part about /pol/ is right anyway..
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>>43299905
>Rarity would be amazing to fuck anally.
Rarity would be amazing to fuck PERIOD.
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>>43299908
>Rarity would be amazing to fuck PERIOD.
But her ass would be the best, no doubts about that.
>>>/an/5134670
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>>43299905
>Swede
>posts about buttsex
Of course.
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I CAN"T STOP THINKING ABOUT RARITY!!!
One moment she wiggles her plot at me, another moment she tells me to not be such a horny wanker.
Finally did it, I drew clop, IS SHE HAPPY ABOUT IT?
(Also, should I learn French so that I may fully enjoy Rarity speaking when watching the French dub of the show?)

https://files.catbox.moe/hd5wdd.png
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>>43300307
Unf those crotchteats. Nice one anon.
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darlings pls
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rarararararararaararararararar
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>>43300307
>sexy panties
>pony pussy and ponut pressing against the cloth
>bra holding crotchteats
big unf
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>10
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>10
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>>43304339
https://files.catbox.moe/xtpqba.mp3
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i have been sleeping with my 4da rarity plush the past two days and woke up hugging her
i love her so much
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Keep it alive!
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>>43306687
Rarity is too busy eating ice cream to bump the thread.
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RARIBALL
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>>43306817
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>>43306695
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>>43306950
That one brought a smile to my eye. God I'm old. Emphasis on "old". EMPHASIS!!!
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Rara taken on Manehattan
A classic from ages ago
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>>43308795
public drinking? how fancy of u darling
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>>43307496
>>43308028
I do like these pictures, Anonymous. Their smug aura stimulates me.
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>"As for the ensemble, it wasn't cheap, darling. You oughta know, you bought it."
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>>43305709
The 4DE Rarity plush is so beautiful. It’s by far the best mass produced Rarity plushie. Symbiote Studios cannot compete. I cuddle mine as well, but it’s a bit uncomfortable because of the tag… I don’t want to take it off though.
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GEM ALERT!!! FRESH FROM THE 'BOORU'S!
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Hello again /ra/, website anon here. The site is finished, you can find it at raritythread.neocities.org.
>What changed
At first we tried making the site auto-fetch the current thread using 4chan's API. This turned out to be impossible given the neocities infrastructure. Since it's always better to make things run themselves in the end, and it would be unfeasible for me to continually update the site, I decided to drop the feature and just include a link on the footer.
We also wanted to make it auto-fetch the top 50 rarity images on ponerpics automatically, but this was also unstable, so I just downloaded 50 and put them up for good.
Everything else was tweaking to fit the sensibilities and style of the webring, for example, everything now fits on one page without needing to scroll.
Enjoy!
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>>43310705
>https://raritythread.neocities.org/

Fabulous. The guest book has been signed and the marshmallow mare has been appreciated.
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>>43311630
I want to sing Planet of the Bass with this Rara
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Do you think Rarity gets ponut filler injections?
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More of my favorite mare. Also ty for nice comments bros. Makes me happy to see people enjoy my draws. I've never seen anything more beautiful than Rarity, I'll keep drawing her as long as i can pick up a pen
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>>43310705
holy based
is there anything we can make to be added in?
more greens, art?
>>43310218
>It’s by far the best mass produced Rarity plushie
oh, most fucking certainly
i'd even go as far as to say its the best plushie that has been mass produced period
i actually put one nekokevin socks on mine, so all i feel is her cute little socks while we sleep, no tag
it works cause i sleep with socks on too so were matching
actually now that i mention it, i think thats why i was having trouble falling back asleep earlier this morning, its cause i did NOT fall asleep with her in my arms this time
i skipped a shower and didnt want her to go through that
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>>43312787
>she will never look at you like this
GODDAMMIT JUST BE REAL ALREADY
RARITY PLS
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>>43312787
The arch of that back makes me feel lucky to love her.
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>>43312787
Please keep posting Rarity vomvom. Love your stuff always!
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>>43312798
>more greens, art?
Seconding this Anon. Here's a green about kissing Rarity that I think should be added:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43281096/#43282847
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>>43313994
wish it would rain here...
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>>43305709
>>43310218
>>43312798
going to sleep with my love again tonight <33
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>>43315183
Me at the Kinoplex watching lotr again.
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>>43312798
Her mane especially looks beautiful and accurate. I really can’t believe how badly Symbiote Studios messed up her mane. Rarity would not approve! I’m sure your Rarity looks super cute in her socks. What color are they?
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>>43316256
What whould be the favourite character of Rarity?
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>>43317140
Arwen. Eowyn is less likely but Rara would probably like her for her fighting spirit.
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>>43268932
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>>43283653
Why did you start worshipping ".rar" over "celestia"? Celly is also white and has a bigger ass.
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>>43317155
Imagine what her period smells like.
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I like a mare in uniform.
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>>43317729
Anon, you're supposed to imagine what a MARE smells like...
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Here's a preview of some cute artwork I'm commissioning by Jotun.
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>>43318414
UNFA
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Hello Rarafrens
Wishing you all a wonderful Friday
Stay fabulous
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>>43318414
I want Rarity to scream orders at me and make me lick her hooves if I fuck them up.
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>>43319169
I want to kiss, massage and pamper her hooves in general.
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Rarity is disgusted by what the anon below her has posted!
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I want to hold Rarity's hoof in public and in full view of children
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>>43319171
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I saw Rarity at a grocery store in Las Pegasus yesterday.
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>>43320057
"Oh like you're doing now darling?"
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>>43320021
Lewd!
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https://tantabuscdn.net/img/view/2026/6/28/83612.webm
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>>43321392
Cute Sloppity
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>>43319099
This is cute! I like that her belly is a reasonable size for a pregnant pony.
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>>43321392
>AIslop
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>>43316443
not only that, but they made every pony obnoxiously tall
>what color are they?
they're blue! stripes that alternate from light blue to a normal blue
>>43317711
fucking kek hahaha
bottom left was me when i first fell for raritybut she liked it
>>43318421
>>43317729
this. imagine what rarity's period smells like
>pants instantly bulge up to a splooge sound effect
>>43321701
>>43319099
is she pregnant?
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>>43317729
>>43321851
Ponies don't have periods, thankfully.
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The Kayou cards have some super cute Rarity outfits.
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>>43322305
the ballerina outfit card is my favorite.
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Fellow Rarity lovers, I need pictures of Rarity.
I'm going to be ordering some banners (~30x45cm) in roughly this style for Mare Fair. I am looking for suggestions for the photo to use. Unless the majority think this one is good already.
I would prefer it to be a screenshot from the show and nothing too suggestive.
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>>43323440
You can’t go wrong with her gala dress. I do like the image you have chosen already though.
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>>43323463
Yes ma'am
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>>43323463
Yes? I mean no? I mean maybe? Which answer gets me the kinkiest treatment?
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>>43321701
>I like that her belly is a reasonable size for a pregnant pony.
I'm glad you like her. I asked Jotun to go with a sensible size for her, yes.

>>43321851
>is she pregnant?
She is. I'll post it here and link to the little story to go along with it once she's ready, which should be soon.
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>>43323556
>I'll post it here
Please don't.
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>>43323556
>I’ll post it here
Please do!
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>>43268932
Anyone have any R34 audios that focus on her accent?
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>>43325872
cute marshmallow
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Darling
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>>43327573
What are you supposed to do in this situation?
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>>43327615
Kiss her like she's a lady. That you claimed for your own.
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>>43326632
>rape
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DARLING!
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>Does anyone even love me…?
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Happy 4th of July! https://youtu.be/_rPieklFf1s
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>>43330592
I want to smell
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you can't leave fancy white girls unattended irl
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>>43331862
Rarity would not tolerate it!
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Come on, Anon… Rarity is about to have an ice cream binge eating session…
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Rarity is a master of passive aggression.
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>>43333118
I can hear a cartoon BOING
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>>43332728
Sorry Rarity.
Ever since those human ass cheeks grew onto your glorious equine rump it just... hasn't been the same any more.
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>>43333118
GOF makes the best pony animations. He needs to do more Rarity animations.
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>>43333118
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>>43324810
holy fuck unf i love her
she definitely keeps in shape
>>43327615
>>43328141
this is the only right answer
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>>43334074
Agreed.
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>>43268932
The older I get, the more I appreciate Rarity's personality
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Please don't die.
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Does anyone want to talk about Rarity instead of picutre-bumping?
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>>43341530
This. It seems no one cares for Rarity at all. Compare this thread with the Rainbow Dash thread or even the Applejack thread. They are mostly active compare to this one. All I see here is bumps.
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>>43341530
>>43341670
>Even the Trixie thread has more discussions than the Rarity thread
Grim.
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>>43341699
>>43341670
Probably time to change that. Rarity I'm sure would like all the photo sharing of her but she would want us to discuss and talk about her too.
So how about this. Which boutique of Rarity's is your favorite and why?
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>>43341820
>sage in name
Goddammit /mlp/ con
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>>43323440
>>43323447
Any other opinions?
Something to discuss to I guess.
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>>43323556
>I'll post it here and link to the little story to go along with it once she's ready, which should be soon.
Here's the artwork, I'll upload the full quality to the boorus later, and the very short story that it illustrates:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/526921/16/short-stories-with-pregnant-ponies/that-last-lingering-shred-of-hope

Rarity could feel tears building up as she frantically ran her hooves through the simply gorgeous clothing before her. She had lain on her bed nearly half an hour ago, and the outfits hadn’t quite started out in a pile, but they were getting that way. This colour disqualified that outfit, an adorable little bonnet disqualified another, and the cutest little design she’d ever seen meant that outfit was also out of the running. She sniffled, and could feel her mascara beginning to run.

“I don’t think it matters, Rarity.” Sweetie Belle had thought Rarity would get over herself, but she should’ve known better.

“You don’t understand, Sweetie. I-I can’t see how I was caught completely by surprise, but I’m simply unprepared!”

“I don’t think he’ll mind wearing the filly clothes you made.” Sweetie Belle was getting tired of this.

“I didn’t know I was having a colt!” Rarity wailed.
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>>43341530
Sure.

>>43341820
>Which boutique of Rarity's is your favorite and why?
She only has one as far as I'm concerned. The one introduced in season four wasn't bad, but it still lacked the character of Carousel Boutique, and it doesn't helped that the episode focussed on you-know-what just like so many of the others from that season.

Now I'll ask a question: Imagine you're living with Rarity, maybe the /nmp/ scenario, and what are some ways you see Rarity asking you to change? Rarity would expect her husband to bathe every day before getting in bed with her, I'm certain.
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Rarity is kinda sexy!
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>>43342842
>what are some ways you see Rarity asking you to change?
"Please stop talking about your pregnancy fetish, dear."
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>>43343674
kek
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>>43342831
aww. Turns out seeing Rarity pregnant is something I enjoy.
If it is our foal in her of course.
>>43342842
I have to agree. Her Carousel Boutique is the one I have fallen in love with. It's in a much better location. Plus it's a home for her and Sweetie Belle.

To your next point, she would probably make more demands on ice cream.
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>>43342989
Its from Miniso?
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>>43343909
Yes
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>>43342842
Didn’t she open the Canterlot Boutique in Season 5? And what is the “you-know-what”?
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>>43344097
nta but I did look it up and it was season 5 for the Canterlot Boutique and season 6 for Rarity UUUU.
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>>43341530
maybe
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>>43346084
I don't think I could keep my hands to myself around Rara
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>>43346084
SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf
*ahem* scuse me..allergies acting up
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>>43268932
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>>43341820
we only ever really saw Carousel Boutique in any detail.

we should have gotten another Sassy Saddles episode, but Coco's snowpity was just too powerful, so she got another one instead
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>>43346084
oh my
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How do (You) think Rarity would behave on a perfectly normal day? She must want to feel pretty relaxed and mellow after being dramatic and loud for so long.
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>>43349035
I have a feeling she wouldn't like being called dramatic or loud (even though she is).
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>>43349035
Well if she has any dresses to make, she'd probably be working on those at some point during the day.
Otherwise she would be making a nice breakfast, doing any laundry and lazing on her couch. Doing some errands in town too.
>>43349038
She wouldn't like being called loud, but I can see her liking being called dramatic once in awhile.
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>>43349035
>>43346084
Oh now this is unf
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>>43349035
i think she'd like to wind down with some tea, maybe go out for an early stroll, overdressed, of course
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>pg 9
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Mares in uniform... unf...
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>>43351028
Hot, historically accurate, foal making sex with Rarity.
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>check on the board after hearing the G6 news
>see the Rara thread is still ongoing
>someone compiled my oldass greens from 9 years ago into the OP
Hope everyone is doing well. Keep on being amazing, fags.
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>>43351673
no u
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The most beautiful mare in the show.
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>>43352851
Painting and drawing would be a nice hobby for Rara!
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>>43353434
She already does a bunch of drawing with all the dresses she makes.
So she already has a drawing hobby.
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>>43354020
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>>43354020
>>43354022
I just saw the Breezie episode, and upon seeing their home Rarity specifically laments not having her sketch pad with her to seize the inspiration of these new sights.
There's also the very pretty sketch she draws with an artist charcoal stick in Sweet and Elite.
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>>43354020
>>43354060
I always considered her to be an adept draftsman (draftsmare?)

but being able to draw well is kind of a thing in Equestria too. if you ever look at Twilight's checklists, half the time she's got little drawings next to the boxes, and they're all good (I know for sure this happens in Winter Wrap Up)
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