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Found this neat screencap from ~2012 saved from Pokehidden's blog. Got the old Windows and everything. Let's have a thread for ancient fandom stuff.
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>>43277121
Some context. EqD quickly took this down because of a small line in a certain area. He was “banned” from Equestria Daily.
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>>43277496
Huh, neat.
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>>43277496
>>43277637
To clarify, this wasn’t how the term came about. He was already complaining about his stuff never getting featured on the site (he also wanted EqD to cover nsfw content). That screenshot is a small victory for him.
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I miss all the old pony Tumblr blogs, more than half the ones I used to like are gone now
I'm scared to think of how many of them are lost media now
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>>43277496
What's that line, anyway? Crotchboob cleavage? Or frontgina?
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>>43279104
I don't think he ever does the former (except for a certain milk mare)
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I heard the old fluffy abuse site imploded due to drama or some shit. Anybody here know what happened?
Also, I find it funny that you can find compilations of the stuff on youtube that's relatively new. Some even have over a million views.
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>>43278546
Is there a pony askblog archive somewhere? Some of the stuff was obscure enough that it likely never got saved before a lot of it burned down
>>43279332
Oh, the classic
>give some mentally ill retard near-complete control over your booru functionality
>he obviously starts powertripping
>inevitably he spergs out over some basic bitch shit
>crashing_this_plane_with_no_survivors.png
>because other retards in the staff never bothered with some scraper archive/gave the faggot-in-chief control over it as well, backup is nonexistent and almost everything gets lost in flames forever
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>>43279779
Loonadventure my beloved
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>>43277121
>not even halfway through 2012
I'd almost forgotten just how fast Eqd folded to Hasbro's sfw approved paycheck. It was crazy in hindsight.
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>>43279789
He started equestria after dark specifically for nsfw stuff
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>>43279779
>>give some mentally ill retard near-complete control over your booru functionality
>>he obviously starts powertripping
Many such cases
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>>43279802
Seth did? I could have sworn EQAD was ran by a guy named Alex that couldn't afford to keep it up. It didn't last long at all.
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>tfw red light ponyville had more active in 2014 than /mlp/ does now.
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>>43279904
I think you underestimate how many anons there are here, also there are plenty of active gooners in this fandom, most are just lurkers on boorus though
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>>43279752
ADVENTURE PONIES!
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>>43279332
>>43279779
Good riddance. Its torture porn of the most despicable and revolting creatures one can imagine for nothing more than callous, chinaman tier desires of inflicting cruelty on something. The fluffy slop is probably one of the top 5 worst things I've ever seen on 4chan and I wish everyone who drew it a very painful, very fatal cancer diagnosis.
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>>43279904
What happened to the site? I can enter it, but there aren't any posts at all in the sections I click on.
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>>43280409
Did you log in? Some forums are login-walled now. Another example: https://www.roundstable.com/
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>>43279920
Makes sense. I lurk daily but often make only 2-3 posts a day.
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>>43280892
Pretty much the same as me. I used to post a lot but didn't get enough (You)'s so I stopped putting effort in
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>>43281483
Wrong imagae
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>>43279920
I've recently decided to adventure myself outside of the board and by checking chat backlogs and by actively asking about /mlp/ i've realized that a surprisingly amount of the 'normal' mlp dudes lurk the board occasionally but only post on twitter and discord.
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>>43280299
i like it.
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>>43281483
(You)
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>>43279920
>I think you underestimate how many anons there are here
Yeah there's like 2-5 anons here with some with a personality disorder so they're fighting with themselves
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>>43281619
True, i'm one of those anons.
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>>43279802
>>43279871
Need this confirmed as I was always confused between the two.
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>>43282693
https://web.archive.org/web/20140626035758/http://equestriaafterdark.org/equestria-after-dark-faq/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140617192720mp_/http://equestriaafterdark.org/2014/04/eqad-announcement/
It seems Seth handed Alexstrazsa the reigns, and then Alex moved EQAD to his own site after there were issues with Blogger.

There's this secondary source cancer too.
https://mlpfanart.fandom.com/wiki/Equestria_After_Dark
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This thread made me go searching for it again, but I finally found it. The meme that in the end got me into MLP. Posted on 2012-03-26.
I used to browse Memebase a lot, and they would occasionally post pony memes. After seeing this meme, mostly in shock after seeing something else in the meme, I decided to finally Google why MLP was so popular. I then read what I think was this article:
https://icrontic.com/article/why-grown-ass-men-love-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-so-much

After reading that the show was created by Lauren Faust, the creator of Powerpuff Girls and Foster’s, shows I liked, I decided to give it a shot. I then binged the show until I was caught up 2 days before the S2 finale. I would download episodes off YouTube and then watch them in my room on my PS Vita.
I continued browsing memes mostly switching to My Little Brony. Looking back at them now the memes are super cringe but also a time capsule of what was happening at the time. It's neat to the see excitement of upcoming episodes and the memes spawned from them.
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>>43280299
I mean yeah, absolutely nothing of real value was lost with Fluffybooru's death but fuck me if it doesn't feel like a devastating blow to have your sole archival site be destroyed so suddenly. Think some faggot admin on pre-altbooru Derpi having a melty and deciding to pull the plug on the site, and all the pony fandom's legacy up to that point gets erased.
And in the end they kinda got what they deserved, with their entire fandom now becoming completely and irrevocably subjugated by the worst kinds of furniggers
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>>43278546
Names?
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>>43282865
Faust didn’t create Powerpuff Girls, retard. And at best, she only co-created Foster’s.
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>>43279779
>Is there a pony askblog archive somewhere?
https://iwiftp.yerf.org/Pony/Tumblr%20archive/Blogs/
https://archive.org/details/@iwiftp?query=tumblr
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>>43282865
Interesting. I'm a newfag (joined the heard about 4 years ago) but I've been wanking to ponies since 2012, I had so much pony porn on my PSP back in the day.
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>>43280299
Based. High time someone said it.
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Damn. Nu-/mlp/ really is all newfags. Only a handful of images here.
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>>43285253
So?
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>>43279752
Is this archived anywhere? I want to play this.
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>>43277121
Ancientbump
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>>43285342
https://arcade.equestriagaming.net/2017/06/adventure-ponies.html
https://arcade.equestriagaming.net/2017/06/adventure-ponies-2.html
Took a little flash hacking to not have it try to fetch data from a defunct Hub server.
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>>43279752
>>43285342
>>43286340
And here's a MEGA folder with archived games from The Hub: https://mega.nz/folder/gQ0kVaKb#unF9M8Ut1K7hbJ6UA6C54w
I don't know which ones are missing (if any)
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>>43281613
Thanks
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>>43285445
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>>43280299
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>>43278539
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>>43280299
Based. Snuffags need to implement their fetish on themselves.
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>>43287932
I never had a handheld, kinda get FOMO about it. Except a Leapstart lmao
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>>43288620
I missed out and I feel bad about it. Handheld consoles are barely a thing anymore, and I missed out on a lot of old kino like peak pokemon and everything.
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>>43279332
gaylittleroommate or something like that, right? yeah their youtube channel has their videos deleted like all the time, it's really weird

>>43280299
based
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>>43282884
A fitting and deserved end indeed. They were always one of most disgusting threads on /b/.
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>>43287932
>>43285015
Wow more anons who watched porn on PSP? My first orgasm was when i watched some DeviantArt shit that i had transferred to my PSP since i was worried that watching porn on our old slow shitty PC was going to get me caught, especially one time when my brother came to my room and PC froze a bit when i was trying to close the windows. Finally just when my brother is about to come to check out what i'm doing there, the window closes thank god.
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>>43289484
>not thank Celestia
one job anon.
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>>43282865
This is similar to my story. The memes sold me on the artstyle, and I binge watched up to MMMystery and completely fell in love, then a few weeks later the S2 finale aired. Caught a bit of S3 but trailed off. I look back and can see why, S3 was where it felt like a different show, thr spirit wasn't quite there. Didn't finish the show til later, wish I didn't honestly. I just wanted to understand the conversation here kek.
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I remember all the episodes were on YouTube. They still are I guess. But it was different because they were recorded from the Hub, so you'd have the logos and stuff.
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>>43282865
Oh and I was obsessed with Equestria Girls hentai throughout high school kek
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>>43289742
I did too. Dad didn't know it had a web browser. I did everything on there in 5th grade. On my iPod Touch I only played mobile games. Oh yea and I chatted with people on OpenFeint. I remember spamming rape at this fat emo chick when I was 11 or so and she always responded like -_- or something.
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>>43289742
>>43289883
All I had was a windows mobile PDA with no wifi or internet access on it when i was like 7, it had this metal hinged case and a tactile plastic keyboard
Eventually the charger brick blew up or something and the PDA had to be thrown away.
All I really remember doing on it was just playing this bubble pop game that came installed on the device, just letting rows of bubbles pop.
I guess you two got lucky with ignorant parents letting you expose yourselves to horsey porn at a young age, I only got my first exposure of horse porn at like 12, it wasn't pony though and was just furfag feral shit.
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Having unsupervised internet access used to be cool. Nowadays you just get groomed by some Discord weirdos.
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>>43279779
>>43279783
So speaking of loonadventure and the still ongoing askloona
I remember finding a separate loony luna themed blog that only had a couple of posts and felt a bit like askloona. However, that blog's posts existed way back in late 2011, which would put it at the same time as loonadventure and not askloona which was 2014. I don't know if anyone else remembers the link to it. I found it once a few years back by just casually looking through the posts and archived threads so it's got to be in there.
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>>43290841
I should've spent a bit more time. I found it: https://aaa99sk999l00u-u000n00n0a-blog.tumblr.com/
It was hidden in one of the original loonadventure posts according to this: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/32337626/#32341062
I was hoping that it might've been some hidden blog created by askloona mod from years earlier but it's clearly from loonadventure.
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>>43277121
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>>43282792
>Luckily, most of the blog’s posts, up to late January 2014, had been archived on a test website.
Any info on this test website?
>The original iteration of Equestria After Dark was run by Sethisto, creator of Equestria Daily
>Sethisto also advertised the current Equestria After Dark on the old site of the same name.
Is this original iteration up somewhere? What was the URL?
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>>43290114
I met many groomers back then. I was in middle school during the brony craze. There was even a brony rapper who sent me a WIP of a "Proud to be a Lolicon" song.
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>>43292150
Sure, kid.
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Bump
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>>43286278
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>>43292150
Receipts?
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reupload of the very first youtube upload of the show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpON8f0Mqrw
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>>43294420
>commercials right after the intro
I thought this only involved transitions to black
Americans are fucked
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>>43279752
Why does this look like Web 2.0? Everything should have been astroturfed by this point.
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>>43280299
You're a man after my own heart. I hate and despise that filth to a degree that can't properly be expressed in words. It takes a very special kind of freak to take something nice and befoul it in such a meanspirited, sadistic fashion. These are the same people who tear the heads off their siblings' stuffed animals just to see them cry. I hate HATE people who intentionally destroy beautiful things.
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>>43290855
Pony Ayds?!
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>>43294885
That's just Hasbro being extra jewish. That isn't super common over here. Or at least it wasn't back when I had cable.
>>43294900
You sound like a faggot. I bet Smile HD hecking "traumatized" you.
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>>43294900
>beautiful things.
>fluffy ponies
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>>43294885
It’s always like this when the show aired there. See the uploads of the live chat reactions.
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>>43282884
>the homestuck artstyle gif
God just fucking take me back already
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>>43278546
2012-2014 ask blogs were such a great model. If you were a passable artist all you had to do was a 20 minute sketched out panel answering to whatever and you got more views than deviantart people with high resolution pieces.
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I'm glad its over.
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>>43295821
>you
>reading comprehension
Fluffy ponies (and all the implied horror) are a corruption of ponies. They are a corruption of a beautiful thing. How dense are you?
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>>43297169
I agree. Abused ponies should be beautiful.
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No response was necessary friend, it was a rhetorical question. You've obviously a complete moron.
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>>43297189
Who are you talking to, newfag?
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Good thing your question goes unanswered, my sensitive friend.
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countdown to g4: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/33518760/
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>>43292151
>>43293685
I still have it oh yea. I don't want that song to haunt the guy though. But it was a shitty pop-rap song.
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>>43280299
Frankly i just don't get the appeal of hurting small animals, fictional or not. Especially when they're apparently retarded like fluffies are.
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>>43280299
>melodramatic pearl clutching tantrum
>xitter meme
Get out zoomer
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>fallout equestria
>the original cupcakes video with the samurai jack OST that's now deleted off youtube
>banned from equestria
>ask princess molestia
>all the cringe videos spawning on youtube like mold
I'm so glad all this retardation was part of my preteen years. Shit was so sovl.
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>>43300116
you know you can type soul and not "sovl" right
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>>43300116
>that's now deleted off youtube
https://youtu.be/4oaYkYcYadU
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>>43300119
You know you can use correct grammar and punctuation, right?
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>>43300139
You can shut up now
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>>43300163
Yes, because you've been defeated.
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>>43300120
Guro Penkino, whoever chose that music track for it was a genius
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>>43297125
I saw a couple of attempts to bring the format to twitter a few years ago. I think it could work, but the newer fans didn’t seem to be interested enough.
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>>43300878
What do newer fans even like? I'm such an unc I have no clue. All I know is that they're offended by everything.
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>>43301031
Edgy horror AUs, apparently.
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>>43301033
It's hardly edgy, it's the most mundane shit ever. Babby's first horror.
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>>43301033
Oh yea. That stuff is cool even though, like the previous Anon said, it's baby stuff compared to the OG creepypastas.
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>>43301031
Infection AUs or some shit, you can blame chinkvid for mindraping zoomcattle into liking disease-oriented horror
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Preserving your relics bump
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>>43277121
I was a fan of sand-filled-scarecrow's stuff at one point. No idea where they're at now.
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>>43300116
Don't forget the .MOV series
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>>43300258
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Time flies...
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>>43285445
I actually printed this one out and stuck it onto the dormitory's toilet back in 2011. It stayed on it for like a year.
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>>43277121
Boop
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I'm so sleepy bros
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>>43306475
Kek
Physical ponyposting is nice, but rarely done.
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>>43306475
I still have to check if this sticker I superglued to my locker is still up.
Celestia almighty keep it on for the decade to cum.
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>>43309071
Epic. When did you do the deed?
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>>43309071
is it there?
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I remember back then when a certain MLP creator visited here. Those were good times. I sorta miss the 2010s.
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>>43310549
Our lord and saviour, Josh Haber?
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>>43297125
Thing that made them so good was a combination of things. One of which was the fact that a good askblog is basically a /qst/ with the prompts styled in question format.
I think this is something alot of people are missing out on when they try to do one. They're taking it too literally.
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>>43301142
Seconding this. Horror modernly in fandom is very tame and materialistic.
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>>43310549
>when a certain MLP creator visited here.
>I sorta miss the 2010s.
Anon, Larson visited in 2020.
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>>43277121
take me back
I hate this globalized normalfag web
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>>43280299
Fluffies are a great metaphore reality and I got off as a child imagining myself being one and being tortured haha I wish I didn't but discovering pony and 4chan lined up with puberty in a real fucked up way 4 me
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>>43307364
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>>43300878
The ecosystem just isnt there. Before you went on tumblr or your RSS app and you had 30+ pony blogs updating daily. There was no burnout on someone doing a bad arc or taking too long or going on hiatus because we had so many new horse stuff every day we needed to have multiple summaries a day. For a couple of years there you could spend all day consuming pony stuff and still miss major releases.
Now since no one does it no one is going to bother checking. No one is going to go and open tumblr to read your ask blog if you're the only one. You need a constant, consisteny schedule of variety releases for people to stay. Youtube's main attraction is you being subscribed to 150 channels so you always have something to watch, plus the recommendation engine feeding your sidebar.
When artist webcomics were at their popularity peak some years ago they figured they needed to make aggregators like hiveworks otherwise people were not going to come back for weekly releases. This extended their staying power by a good three years.
MLP having an extremely early, extremely active aggregator (eqd) and two major forums already set up before the fandom even started is 30% of the reason it was the dominant fandom for 5 years.
You couldn't make an ask blog now because you'd be the only one making an ask blog. Im not going to remember to check your webcomic on your website every other thursday, sorry.
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>>43311662
Someone must always be the first in order for others to follow. Also, they're checking their Twitter feed every day anyway, are they not?
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>>43311685
Nope
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>>43311604
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>>43311685
Networks effects are real. You need many firsts at the same time so people bother checking you out. People check out things because people are already checking it out ("social proof"). Historically most of our content was produced by fans of the fandom rather than true honest dyed in the wool 2011 Vrony pvtriots.
The opposite is also true, if your content loses fans it will start to lose fans faster, its called a death spiral. The anni brings in several thousand people every year and that traffic slowly tapers down because /mlp/ doesnt have enough consitent content to trap them. And they're the same people every year so you _know_ its retention rather than brand. In business terms we have fantastic acquisition and terrible retention.
People are social and tribal whether they like it or not, you want to be where the people are. People are also, in general, followers. They wait for "someone else" to make the things they'd like to see made. We call this a collective-action problem, where everyone would be better off if everyone did a little work, but no one does because of self interest, social effects, or because they expect low reception (see death spiral).

Pony twitter is very insular. Likes are anon so it mitigates the shame effect, but your normie account cant repost pony content. You can have a second account just for pony stuff but its a hassle. It limits reach and visibility a lot.
From a networking pov this is hard to solve.
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>>43300116
Don't forget Luna Game.
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>>43313897
Sorry, but I don't buy it. It sounds like you're trying to recreate the viral numbers of the golden years instead of answering whether it's possible to have enough eyes to sustain an ask blog. As long as you have a dozen openly pony blogs following you, and five of those asking questions, it can work and re-inspire the trend. Unless you believe all artists require the dopamine rush of 5000 followers now. Askblogs are basically AUs, and Infection AU would be a small ask blog revival if those artists asked for questions to answer in story.
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>>43314166
>Unless you believe all artists require the dopamine rush of 5000 followers now.
That might be true though considering (You) aren't just making one yourself.
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>>43314166
>anyone can just make a blog with 12 followers so its possible to just have an ask blog.
Artists can make anything with no following at all. Many people stream for months on twitch to zero followers before they quit.
It doesnt really matter how passionate someone is, it sucks if you spend 30 hours on a piece and get two likes. There's only so many hours in a day. Ask blogs are easier because they're require maybe one hour a day. But would you do it for years to 5-10 followers?
>five of those asking questions
You can even do it solo, just ask yourself stuff. Most ask blogs abused the anon feature to move the plot forward or do funny bits.
>all artists require the dopamine rush of 5000 followers
It obviously feels better if you have a large following that loves your work and all your posts hit 10K likes on twitter, yeah.
If an artist didnt care at all they wouldn't post it online. You dont need 300k followers (would be nice tho) but everyone wants recognition.

Especially when instead of busting your ass for 15 likes on pony comics you could do some skindentation art of the sexo rat from ZZZ or whatever other hot anime girl and hit 3k after 3k for very little work.
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>>43280299
Based. It's barely pony adjacent and it's audience is not bronies. Similar to a current astroturfed poop fetishist.
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>>43314350
>would you do it for years to 5-10 followers?
No, but I would for a month at least. If my art, chosen characters, and story gimmick lead to success, then I should have 20-30 bronies following me by then. If the trend spreads, then I might get 100 and be widely known after a few years. 100 people is a community. Artists that helped pick up the trend will want to crossover or collab. Your blog might even meme a lasting impression of a character better than any individual art could.
>instead of busting your ass for 15 likes on pony comics you could [draw nonpony porn] and hit 3k after 3k for very little work.
Like you said, an ask blog answer takes only about an hour and is no different from drawing sfw pony art for a handful of likes for years on end. You'll get recognition. It's only a matter of getting over warped expectations.
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>>43314350
>everyone wants recognition.
You are not an artist.
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>>43314514
>only bohemian starving artists doing it for free with no expectations of recognition ever, count as artists
I guess, man.
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>>43314482
>Id try for a month and if I dont get a very solid following by then I'd quit
That's what I'm saying, artists try, find no real audience, and quit. Especially with something more audience-involved like ask blogs, you really need to have people consistently showing up.
Very optimistic follower retention too, 100 followers doesnt mean 100 views, views dont mean interactions and interactions dont mean "rates" (reblogs, likes, whatever). I follow webcomics I havent read in 6++ months and scroll past updates on twitter because I dont feel like reading.

It can be done though. It's a tiktok friendly format so it CAN work, that's where the majority of the fandom is today.
Tumblr is dead. You need it to be on youtube, IG or Tiktok. All of these have ask features so its not that bad.
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>>43314596
An artist is someone that does art. Anyone that does art in any capacity is an artist. Someone that just posted their first piece on BALE is an artist. How you feel about art or why you do it doesnt matter.
>Illustrator
What if im a musician or a do claymation, am I also an illustrator
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>>43314580
I'd rather have a handful of followers that like my art and I actually talk to about it, than a thousand likes from strangers.
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>>43314609
>An artist is someone that does art. Anyone that does art in any capacity is an artist. Someone that just posted their first piece on BALE is an artist. How you feel about art or why you do it doesnt matter.
This is right. This anon: >>43314514 & >>43314596 is just being contrarian. Trying to paint being an artist as an "either-or" thing, or some sort of "black-and-white" deal, when in reality, almost everybody is an artist at some point in-time in their lives, is silly. You can scribble shit on the underside of the toilet-seat in the public restroom(and it doesn't matter if someone paid you to do it or not, or if you "loved" the final result/outcome of your "creation" at all), Congrats! You're an artist, now.
Anyone making a knot in their shoelaces to keep 'em tied-up nicely is an artist. Anyone who talks is an artist of 'speech', and anybody who does Tai Chi for five minutes is a martial artist, along with anybody who knows how to do one karate kick, or one Wing Chun punch (even if they are not very good at it). The list goes on-and-on. The term(noun) artist simply refers to someone who is a practitioner of any of the branches of artistry, no matter how good they are, or whether they get paid for it or not. To be an arter you must do art, but it does not matter if you do art for the sake of art and because you enjoy it, or for any of the multitudinous other reasons that one may desire to embark upon a creative stint.
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>>43314601
>artists try and quit.
Have good ask blogs been attempted recently on Twitter or TikTok that I'm unaware of?
>I...scroll past updates on twitter because I dont feel like reading.
Weird anecdote. Burn out from audiences and artists with ask blogs is usually due to overly ambitious plots and detailed multi-panel comics, and that happened all the time during peak tumblr. Shifting the numbers that matter around is unfairly pessimistic.
>You need it to be on youtube, IG or Tiktok... that's where the majority of the fandom is today.
Lol, well the idea was noble one anyway. Twitter is the only site remotely close to Tumblr. Guess I'll keep waiting for the next big social media site for artists till I'm dead.
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>>43314685
It's hilarious that you consider this a good argument, especially with the examples you made. Yep, anyone who murmurs "what are we even living for" is a philosopher. Anyone who shitposts on 4chan is a "writer". Kek. Sure bro.
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>>43315312
Not him but if you put in some modicum of effort in writing a greentext on /mlp/ you're a writer. Probably not a very good one but a writer nonetheless.
You can be a bad singer and still be a singer. A bassist that would very much rather be doing jazz but has has to be on some sabrina carpenter-esque nu-pop band because it pays better, is still an artist even though they dont like what they do.
All of The Greats did it for money so unless you propose anonymous keygen musicians are more of an artist than Saint Michelangelo, your argument doesnt have legs.
Absurd pedantry that you wouldn't apply to anything else.
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>>43315539
Normal people all expect a certain level of proficiency in the subject matter before you call yourself anything. Maybe not in your snowflake Twitter sphere but that is how it works in the real world.
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>>43315587
>"Im a pretty shit writer, I just started"
<"NOT a writer, buddy. Maybe 'someone who writes' but I better not catch you calling yourself a writer until youre published."
I guess.
This has little to do with the other anon's original point thoUGH ("If you do it for payment, even attention or "dopamine", then you are an "Illustrator" not an artist. An artist does what they do, for the love of the art.")
Clearly you CAN be an average pianist that does it for money, its fine. Again most people we consider the peak of artistry across history did it for the money.
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>>43315616
I agree that the money argument is a moot point.
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>>43315539
>unless you propose anonymous keygen musicians are more of an artist than Saint Michelangelo
If we knew Michelangelo wanted to paint horse cocks all over the Sistine Chapel, but got paid to do apes instead, while the keygen musicians are making pony references for the love of the game, yeah, I propose it.



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