>>43304826
First for no one is going to make another altbooru. Anyway have a great weekend I'm off to go clean up more tornado damage.

>>43304826
>Twibooru scraper published
Neat. Reposting another scraper since it's been a few years:
https://gitgud.io/mys_elf/Imp

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>>43305007
Neat. I was gonna point out how the filter you selected in the Ponybooru module wouldn't actually pull "Everything", owing to the site's institutional dishonesty, but that's a bit of a moot point now.

>>43304834
To be fair we never really needed 3 alts. All we need is up to date backups and the ability to spin up a new one if shit goes down.
Having triple redundancy was fucking cool but in reality PB rejected the role of archival from the very start so it was always more like double redundancy, with poner and twi being basically equal. We don't need a third/fourth booru any time soon.

If and when we get down to one booru, then keeping an up to date copy of the data will start becoming important, but even then spinning up another backup will be relatively low priority until the last one goes down and a new alt becomes necessary.

>>43304749
>You gonna just have one alt booru and that's it?
No, the plan is to have zero.

Why do you guys promote this?

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>>43305317
The Semiquincentennial is coming up, for one thing.

>>43305235
>To be fair we never really needed 3 alts.
Better 3 than none. Because if one two now drops dead, which hopefully won't happen but you never know, we're back to 1 again. And then we're back at critical levels.

>>43306121
Not really because Rome also has an entire Derpibooru backup, it's just not accessible via a booru interface, but the files and metadata are all there.

>>43306121
Yes more is always better but it's also not free, and not really strictly necessary. We could also have 10 altboorus and we'd be even more resilient, but then ten different anons would need to be spending big bucks on hosting (twi claims it costs like $3k/year) for very diminishing returns in safety.

What's needed at the minimum is a durable backup of the data, and at least one browseable booru at most times. The data being the source of truth is the most important, and if there are periods where one booru goes down and someone has to spin up a new one from the backup, it's suboptimal but not critical.
Having two boorus makes things even more convenient, and three already starts hitting diminishing returns IMO. Especially considering that a well-ran booru just completely dying is pretty rare - again, PB was doing its own thing basically from the start, and twi and poner have both been running for multiple years now with no sign of either of them being at risk of shutting down or going insane or whatever.

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>>43306121
Ponybooru repeatedly betrayed its promise to do better. It still existing is not worthy of praise, and relying on it for anything after all the shit Zizzy's pulled is suicidal.

>zizzy this, zizzy that
I'm out of the loop, what did he actually do this time?
And most importantly, is TPA compromised? Last I checked it was the biggest repository of backed up pony videos from youtube, among other things. And zizzy had always been a megafaggot and furfag but TPA was still being maintained fine for the purposes of pony preservation. Has that changed?

>>43306170
Not sure, the drama so far has only been about Ponybooru as far as I know.

>>43306170
Blatantly lied about purging loli/shota/foalcon off Ponybooru right after his furry friend got busted by the FBI. If you want to trust him with
>the biggest repository of backed up pony videos from youtube
That's your funeral.

>>43306179
Well, you won't find any of the objectionable content on Youtube. But maybe if one of his furfag friends wants a video "defaming" them removed...

>>43306147
I do have some concerns about Ponerpics, with their leadership being unreachable for the better part of a year. Lotus owns the domain and Megalith is the main codefag from my understanding. The only one over there who actually seems to be live is Gold Meddle.

>>43306179
This is what happens when you're friends with furries, people.

>>43306213
I don't go to /mlpol/ often but last time I checked in there, Lotus was alive and well. If they're disappearing and going MIA that's unfortunate, I liked the site and I liked how it was mostly comfy and just serving pony pics while staying out of basically most drama so far

>>43306216
I don't go to /mlpol/ often either, but I've ran the Porter importer since near the start. In the past I've been able to talk to Lotus. I'd send him a message and he'd get back to me reasonably quick. Usually just asking how the site's going every couple months, and usually the response was that it's going fine. But last August I believe it was, he stopped responding completely. Since then I've been sporadically trying to make contact just to make sure they're all alright over there. But I've not been able to do that. Even with the brief (and only) appearance of Lotus on the site during April fools on the forum, no responses to my messages. I've also tried reaching out to Megalith since he also used to be fairly active on there, but no luck there either. Though unlike Lotus I was not in contact with him previously. As I said, Gold Meddle is the only live one and the only thing I got out of him was that they rest have been just "busy". I don't know what's going on, and it's not even that I really want details, I'd just like to hear that they're doing alright. From the person in question.

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>desuarchive keeps removing more and more old pics
>still no /mlp/ alternative with all existing image bases imported

>>43306261
Wait what the fuck, I didn't realise they were doing that
Are they permanently deleting them or do they have some cold backups and they're only removing them from the live instance?

I have like 5TB of space I could dump shit onto, I just don't have much time these days so I can't set up a scraper myself (let alone host a server), but it's definitely important to try to do something to save that shit if it's getting deleted

>>43306281
No idea but some pics that were never reposted after 2017-2018 are already gone.

>>43306261
Yes, sadly they are doing that for years. Anything older than ~5 year is deleted.
Also the it is in a zombie state. No activity from the admins/owners at all for like 3+ years.
Even the scraper is buggy, because there is a specific string which you can use to hide your post from desu. It seems like a bug, because it breaks the scraper. I reported it to them like a year ago, but no response.
And they refuse to provide a db dump for mlp.

>>43306236
>mlpol-connected booru
They're probably in prison.
>>43306261
Probably a lazy form of CYA from all the cp that would inevitably get unintentionally archived from various raids and native bad actors on every board that desu archives.

>>43306281
>Wait what the fuck, I didn't realise they were doing that
AFAIK, they do that for storage reasons.

>>43306439
At one point I scraped all of /mlp/ from desuarchive except the images (for storage reasons). I've never heard anyone say the non-image data is at risk, but I could share it if people were interested. I'd have to find it again though.

There is a lot that's missing from the early years. I don't know why.

>>43306664
>they do that for storage reasons
They bite off more than they can chew. Since they started archiving more than just mlp, its a downhill.

>>43306673
So far its only images. But having a backup it is always good.

>>43306938
An archive that eats its own tail isn't much of an archive even when it isn't selectively censoring:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/post/38993240
https://archived.moe/mlp/post/38993240

>>43306976
Hey, so Desuarchive is also now deleting legal but "problematic" content? Looks like we really need a new /mlp/ archiver for more reasons than them purging old images.

>>43307013
Was this post ever available on desu though? Maybe their scraper just couldn't get to it before it was deleted from 4chan

>>43307095
No, it definitely was. The surrounding posts are all on desu, including the deleted, suggestive shimmerloli. It's only the one with the mega link that got purged.

>>43306976
Huh, this is new info for me. Seems like we do need a new mlp archive.

>>43307144
What's annoying is that there isn't all that much worthwhile stuff to argue from this board anymore nowadays, the best stuff is all in the past, on Desuarchive that holds the single and (as we now know) censored copy. We're not getting that content back ever.

>>43307151
Argue = archive

>>43307151
Well archived.moe has some apparently. Is there a dump of /mlp/ threads from yuki.la?

>>43307157
There's also still the b4k archive right? It has no pictures but it may still have the posts that Desuarchive censors.

Reminder that the oldest (and thus most valuable) images are still available in the Heinessen dump:

https://archive.org/details/heinessen-mlp-images

>>43307164
Actually, I take that back, that archive seems even less credible than Desuarchive: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/99446959 (brace yourself for absolutely pathetic behavior befitting an archive)

>>43307174
>uploaded 2015
That's pretty old.

>>43307518
Yeah it's ancient history at this point.

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>>43307650
haha anon don't be silly it was only
>11 years ago

>>43308091
It doesn't matter how many years ago it was; what matters is at what point of the show it was. The years with no show (or with G4.5/G5) are... well, not irrelevant, but certainly much less important. 2015 is Season 5, so the middle.

>>43308639
>2015 is Season 5, so the middle.
I really miss those days now.

Up.

We seriously need an mlp only 4chan archive. Just noticed that the archive page here only keeps archived threads for like 3 days.

>>43309660
What we need is an /mlp/ alternative that automatically imports threads and posts from this board, but also still lets you make your own posts (with images) and threads on it. I feel that's the only way we will ever be able to wean ourselves from this shithole. If the hack showed anything it's that an alternative /mlp/ cannot thrive on its own, because everybody here seems to have battered wife syndrome and always come crawling back no matter how shit the place becomes.

>>43309668
So basically desuarchive?...
The issue is if you reply on the alt site to a post made here, the people here won't see it. Just like desu.
So it is a bad idea.

>>43309668
And also auto-import from NHNB and /poner/ for good measure, so nobody needs to go anywhere else anymore. The Over/mlp/.

>>43309672
You can't make threads or post images on Desuarchive. There's also no board index/catalog.

>>43309668
Staying here, though, has the benefit of leeching off 4chan's resources. They pay for servers and bandwidth. They already have staff who handle raids, CP spam, doxxing, and so on (in addition to removing perfectly good content). A new site is going to need those. Look at what's eventually happened to every other pony forum: Either it's hosted by some a larger entity (Reddit) or it eventually shut down (pretty much everywhere else).

>>43309675
Desuarchive, NHNB and /poner/ all do perfectly fine dealing with those problems (/poner/ even better than /mlp/ because its software allows it to bring threads back from the archive after a raid).

>>43309675
>or it eventually shut down
Most of the time it wasn't because of lack of resources. The lack of content was the reason.
The main reason this board stays alive is because there are other boards. If suddenly all other boards (and their posters) disappeared, I bet 80% of the posters from here would be gone too. Then this alone with maybe 100 posts a day would quickly become boring and enter a death spiral of less posts, less content, less time spent here, thus even less posts, ...
Just look at mlpol or nhnb. Those are just alive due to stubbornness. There are maybe 10 posts a month on those.
The fandom is simply not large enough anymore for independent imageboards/forums to survive on mlp alone. Not to mention that the discussions moved to twitter/discord/etc.
We are pretty far from the 40k post a day peak. I'm happy if there is more than 2k a day (and half of those are bumps...).

>>43309681
>Desuarchive
It does not support image upload, as other Anon said
>NHNB
illegal content stayed up for more than half a day, Anon. That's not "dealing with it", that's "laying back and hoping the site won't be nuked".

>>43309688
>If suddenly all other boards disappeared
...then /mlp/ would be spammed to hell and back
>(and their posters)
It would be an improvement all around. Offboarders are the main problem why /mlp/ suffers, especially from underage boards such a /v/.

Sat down for a day to make a interface for my img-downloader. https://vcl.yerf.org/. Probably slow.
Since img-downloader is still at an early stage there is only a small set of files imported.

Features:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>43310251
>CP removed within half a day
>this is somehow far too long
Within 24 hours is fast enough, I don't care that you fall for three-letter agency tactics to change the narrative to shorter action times so only big corpo sites can remain in existence.

>>43310253
The worst overall diminishing effect to site discussion quality comes from /pol/, but we don't see too much of that effect here because /pol/yps don't generally have MLP as an interest (except for some nazifurs). For more generalized interests though, like /sp/ or whatever, its effect has been disastrous.

>>43310648
>not having any mods around for 12 hours at a time is okay actually

>>43311245
For a slow board like NHNB? Unironically yes.

>>43311245
Oh no! Who will moderate that 10 posts a month?! Someone must be 24/7 ready! That single post every 3 day might go unmoderated for many seconds!
LOL

>>43311267
>>43311373
Imagine a site so lifeless not even the people running it can be bothered to keep a tab open in the background.

>>43311434
Not everybody is stationed at a computer 24/7. A few of us even sleep.

>>43311686
Y'know that time zones exist, Anon?

>>43311876
Still, I don't see the issue. Shit has been removed within a day, so where's the problem?

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>>43304749
>all of the people causing trouble left
Behold, NO TRABBLE:
https://archive.is/06d9y

>>43312042
>nooooooo, illegal words!

>>43304749
Simply remove censorship, and Ponybooru will be re-added to the OP. Why are you blaming people in this thread for your own mistakes, Z?

>>43312042
This reads like a shitty pasta.

>>43312143
/s

>>43312429
No.

Anons, I might end up buying an additional ~10TB of storage. What should I archive which is not archived by many?

>>43312452
Every Catbox file linked on /mlp/. Could disappear at any time and there are no backups.

>>43312452
All the desu /mlp/ images, starting from the oldest ones, as discussed earlier itt. Might even be worth getting in contact with the fags running it to see if they have offsite backups that can be mirrored
And this too >>43312498

>>43312498
this and also pone.rs and mare.by

>>43312498
It is too late for litter links, tho

>>43312503
You're right, the Desuarchive full images are more important, because we know they are actively being removed. Considering Catbox has been up for a while now (/mlp/ links started appearing in 2016, but the amount of links absolutely exploded since 2024) there's less of a pressing need. I was actually busy backing up Catbox files linked on /mlp/ (got everything up to 2020 backed up so far) but had planned on getting new storage to back it up to first (I'm out of storage space right now). That was until the AI hype inflated prices for the drive I was planning to get by literally fucking 100% and I'm not a cuck willing to fall for such assraping kike shit.

Anyway, if anyone wants to back up Catbox links, I have compiled lists of all links found on /mlp/ via Desuarchive by year. Just say the word if you want me to post them.

>>43312590
post them, they'll appear under archive/mlp/catbox when I'm done.

Alright, so there might be a more pressing need to backup Catbox links. I just did a retry downloading the links I dumped for 2019 as a test and instead of five 404 errors that I got last time (back in February), I now get 48. So whatever the reason may be, Catbox is actively deleting some (older?) links that got posted to /mlp/. I checked some of the files that got deleted that I managed to catch last time and did not see anything objectionable (not even loli or anything) so I have no idea what the reason might be. It seems to be mostly MP3s, MP4s and WebMs that now give an error, from a quick look.

>>43312615
Okay, I'll upload the files later today, I first want to doublecheck the list to fix any obvious typos and the like.

>>43312696
2020 went from six 404s to 157. This is terrible.

>>43312702
It seems some files may still be recoverable using the Wayback Machine. https://web.archive.org/web/20201112021131/https://files.catbox.moe/f4sy3d.png still contains this link that gave a 404 last time also (I also don't see anything objectionable in that image at quick glance, so I have no idea what the deal with all these 404s is).

239 errors for 2021, and this is just a fraction of the total amount of links (there's over 10,000 in 2024 alone).

>>43312714
>(there's over 10,000 in 2024 alone
How did that happen?

>>43312739
For some reason the amount of Catbox files linked on /mlp/ absolutely exploded in 2023, going from a couple hundred links each year in 2019 to 2022 to over 5,000 in 2023 and more than 10,000 in 2024 and 2025 (a large part of those numbers are duplicates however - this is the amount of posts where a Catbox file got linked on /mlp/). Was that around the time that smutty.horse shut down? I don't remember, but maybe that's the reason.

>>43312753
It might be.
>back in the day pomf enjoys some partial popularity, shuts down, "pomf clones" come and go for a while
>people just post on imgur or random shitty filehosts, I remember anonfiles was used a good bit for a while
>catbox starts up and seems reliable but it's still early and doesn't have mass adoption
>smutty.horse is made and is so convenient, nice, ad-free, "just werks" that people start using it all the time
>being able to just upload any file at any time for sharing becomes the norm
>smutty dies
>everyone's used to uploading shit for free and with zero effort now
>catbox is the only alternative
That's my armchair explanation

>>43312753
I would guess a lot of those are also duplicated on the boorus, too

>>43312773
And it won't be for long, not as long as the sharty keeps attacking it for the "crime" of having anime girls on the home page.

>>43312987
Nah, catbox is at least as old as modern /qa/, and older than the sharty. It's survived for years despite being relatively well-known and therefore guaranteed to be attacked and used en masse by genuine pedos, not just soiteen wannabe justice warriors.
It's either got glowie connections or the owner is really damn efficient at moderating it and keeping it in the good graces of hosting providers, but whatever he's doing, it works.

>>43312995
I think catbox became an ISP like we did to keep ponybooru online. It's a lot harder to get booted from hosting, but if you don't do any moderation you'll still get flagged and possibly talked to. Usually they'll sit you down at an unusual time that isn't convenient and go over what you need to do to avoid being destroyed. But if you're knowingly hosting things and not doing anything about it, that's when you get rekt.
This is why TPA's file host only allows 24h uploads - discourages anyone seeking malware or illicit content distribution from using it, and it means the virtual disk space it uses is always refreshed every 24 period. Not that I can see anything to begin with, it uses on disk encryption that resets on every reboot.

>>43313097
>TPA's file host
what now

>>43313245
TPA runs a temp file host for sharing archived things back and forth / makes it piss easy to add new content when someone says "I want to upload but don't have dicksword nitro"
I appreciate rome's upload box more though this ended up working and now people use it all over, especially on the cytube during annis.

>>43313097
>Not that I can see anything to begin with
If users can download the files, you can see their contents. And the fact you felt the need to say otherwise implies you definitely do look at peoples' files.

>>43313313
I definitely could if I wanted to, it would be as easy as disabling on disk encryption and rebooting the server. (The on disk encryption only encrypts the virtual disk so that the host system can't read it.) The contents remain readable within the container that runs the service at all times. I don't bill it as a secure service anyway lol, people use it to share memes and zip files of ponies. If you want secure - encrypt before uploading - always.

>>43313097
>>43313285
>>43313343
And why would anyone trust you at your word that encryption is actually being used on your server, or that you delete anything?

>>43313396
>If you can't meet my arbitrary and unreasonable standard, then you're a nigger spic wetback beaner greaser dago wop fob yellow redskin raghead limey nip ginger gringo uncle tom cracker mick paddy chink coolie coon jigaboo jeet cotton-picking pikey hillbilly christcuck kike dyke kraut nazi goyim snowflake faggot DEI Hasbro executive

>>43313396
>trust me at my word
My 4chan anon mongolian basket weaving poster, I just told you if you want true security encrypt before uploading. Not sure what to tell you beyond that. It's a temp file service for shuttling files and showing stupid memes in a cytube chat, it ain't mega upload.

>>43313475
>arbitrary and unreasonable standard
Not deleting stuff that's legal but not kosher is unreasonable for an archive now?

>>43313097
>discourages
Don't you mean encourages? I never seen those temporary upload sites used for anything legal, it always ranges from something shady to all the way to "lifetime in prison"-tier.

>>43304834
Literal Derpibooru behavior. "Create your own booru if you're so triggered by our censorship lololol".

>>43313886
Based on what corp shared when smutty was being taken down, basically pedos use filesharing websites to post links to their material on their forums. Presumably they actually care about having a durable link to let it stay up in the forum post; they're not just sending it to each other during a chat where the link is only needed for 5 minutes.
Obviously some people use it for the latter but there's tons of ways to do that easily when chatting with someone directly (including just sending stuff over whatsapp or whatever, since apparently enforcement is near nonexistent in private chats, hence the EU using it as an excuse to drum up hysteria for all these spyware laws requiring constant real-time scanning of your phone and shit). And also pragmatically speaking, as a website host it's a lot easier to not get in hot water if you're not hosting anything objectionable long-term; while I've never hosted a filesharing site myself, from everything I've seen talking to anons who did, as long as it's gone in a reasonable amount of time they're not gonna hound you. Maybe if there was evidence of continuous and egregious abuse they might pay more attention but that's just speculation on my part.

>>43314017
I don't argue that it is safer to quickly delete everything*. I'm just arguing that it is not as "clean" as TPA owner believes.
*in some countries deleting metadata and logs from the last X months/years is illegal

>>43314032
It's easier to hide all the shady shit people get up to on your sites than actually cooperate with law enforcement.

>>43314032
>in some countries deleting metadata and logs from the last X months/years is illegal
That sounds like a serious flaw to me in this context. Unless that problem has been implemented on purpose. Then it's just bad.

>>43314810
>Unless that problem has been implemented on purpose.
You have to wonder?

>>43315310
Sometimes it's deliberate malice, sometimes it's pure idiocy. Those are very hard to distinguish.

>>43315412
Zizzy's law states that any sufficiently severe stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.

>>43314810
I assume it's not a problem where zizzy lives

>>43312995
Anon....
https://blog.catbox.moe/post/785233399498555392/important-catbox-needs-your-help
This was just a year ago. The sharty were bragging about it on /g/ because they were involved in getting it kicked off funding platforms.

>>43315989
Yeah they got kicked off of Patreon, which is known to be hyper ban happy on anything that's not extremely advertiser friendly. Sharty very well could have been the ones who reported them but getting anything kicked off of patreon is not exactly an epic achievement.
And catbox then proceeded to instantly get back the same amount in donations on its own self-made storefront.

Twibooru importer stuck.
REEEEEEE
REEE
REEEEE
REEEEEEE

>>43315996
If anything, Catbox is financially healthier now that is no longer relying on corrupt sites like Patreon. So, thanks shartroons!

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>>43316004
I checked and they're not on Substar either, which is good, both it and Gaytreon are absolutely terrible. Is Ko-fi really trustworthy, though?

>>43316258
IMO, none of those crowdfunding sites are really trustworthy since they're all run by merchants, but some of them are just exceptionally bad.

>>43316258
As far as I'm aware substar is the only one literally catering to porn and thus the least likely to sperg out. I've seen some stuff on kofi but it seems to be mostly don't-ask/don't-tell type of stuff, especially since ko-fi isn't primarily used for content distribution directly, but just for "tips" and then the author can send you stuff separately afterwards (or at least that's how I used to use it, it might have changed in recent years I dunno).

Catbox is doing its own thing and directly accepting payments from Stripe though. As with becoming your own ISP, the closer you get to the payment processors the less scrutiny you fall under, because you become a very small fish in comparison to all the big sites on your "layer" so it's a lot easier to not draw attention provided you're not doing anything utterly egregious.

>>43316004
It's rare enough that something like this happens.

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how can you run a filehost for over a decade, and still have it be shit compared to mare.by or pone.rs?
>ugly anime mascot
>tiny uploads
>can't even upload shit to it on the main catbox domain since it'll stall or refuse me, have to use litterbox with files that expire 1hr later, since 3day uploads stall constantly
>owner is some california tranny
I dunno, that and seeing anons still use it is annoying, I guess catbox will eternally be shit next to shitty "discordcdn.app/yourshittymetadatastreamandcompressedimage" solely because of people overusing it.
Neither seem stable either (pisscord has a encryption key in direct embeds that ensures it goes invalid over time and breaks the file, since pisscord hates embedding content).

>>43317107
>sperging about catbox
>seething about anime
>outing himself as a proxy user because only proxies and datacenter IPs are blocked by catbox
No sympathy for the sharty.

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>>43317117
>sperging about catbox
valid because they're nuking old content left and right to make room for new useless shit, while older domains still have links up to this day (fimfiction, ponepaste, etc.)
>seething about anime
if you're going to have a anime mascot, at-least choose something that isn't a eyesore, because https://64.media.tumblr.com/e78ddebb7eaa1952f14cb52d2c3c22bd/d577899f69cf4b95-1b/s1280x1920/0edff688b31627f03ba95d9cd0e68f3b31c21e91.png just looks retarded. Same with whatever https://catbox.moe/pictures/bloglogo.png is.
And even if you find a image that looks half-okay in the bottom right corner, catbox has no way of going to that source (unlike pone.rs which does).
>outing himself as a proxy user because only proxies and datacenter IPs are blocked by catbox
Lol lmao, residential IPs are rate limited heavily too, not in the obvious sense but in the literal "file will get stuck uploading" sense if you approach near the limit, bizzarely enough this only happens with specific files i try to upload (that aren't rulebreaking).
If you go through the FAQ they oddly refuse "entire episodes of anime, or full length episodes of TV shows", and refuse to release the source because "they don't like competition" (aka are trying to consolidate control),
There are also multiple ISP's that block Catbox because of how stupid popular it is (since it looks like catbox gets thrown onto website blacklists frequently, and has multiple DNS/IP level blocks).

I dunno nigga, the site looks like shit to me.

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>>43317138
>nuking old content
*nuking content spammed to it by datacenters, proxies, and aislop "programs" because they were raping storage space with garbage
>waaah the mascot is ugly because I don't like this chibi logo and this one piece of fanart
Don't care.
>And even if you find a image that looks half-okay in the bottom right corner, catbox has no way of going to that source
Right click > open image in new tab
How do you not know how to internet?
>they oddly refuse "entire episodes of anime, or full length episodes of TV shows"
Because it's not supposed to be a pirate site and it's a basic CYA so DMCA-hungry corporations don't consider them a pirate source?
>and refuse to release the source because
Because not everything needs to be oben sores just to sate your childish autism. Nothing stops you from spinning up your own file host btw.

>>43317145
>nuking content spammed to it by datacenters, proxies, and aislop "programs" because they were raping storage space with garbage
NTA, it would be fine if it was just this but as >>43312696 shows it's happening willy-nilly. I'd say keeping valid, legal files up would be the first most important aspect of a file host.

I don't really care about the other arguments.

>>43317173
https://blog.catbox.moe/post/809324731954266112/missing-files-blank-uploads-commercial
Already covered. The site is still under attack from (You)r friends so shit happens. I'll bet you never tried contacting the catbox admin and asking about 404'd links either.

>>43317177
What boogeyman are you using to reinforce your argument now? The missing files don't just exist in the time period mentioned in the blog article, which you could've known if you had followed the discussion.

>>43316693
>the least likely to sperg out
still controlled by (((visa/mastercard))) and thus still deplatforming people over fiction:
https://baraag.net/@satori/116218631368288965

>>43317750
>The UK also very recently passed a law making fictional/simulated incest illegal there.
>
>Canada passed a "visual bestiality" law that might impact human x anthro furry drawings and make them illegal because of how vaguely it is worded.
The absolute state

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>>43317775
As far as Canada is concerned, Bill C-16, which'll come into force next month, specifically targets imagery that is "likely to be mistaken for a photographic, film, video or other visual recording of a person committing bestiality" as part of a broader clamping down on deepfake pornography. While anthro art definitely wouldn't qualify, the case could be made for photorealistic depictions of man-on-mare action running afoul of this section.
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/pl/c16/

>>43318229
There's a reason Canada got nicknamed Banada on /b/ when they were the first Western country to explicitly ban loli, way, way back when (20 years ago now?)

>>43318229
Makes sense, but honestly haven't multiple countries already been prosecuting photorealistic AI generations as if they were real, even without dedicated bills? I'm pretty sure I've seen news about that at least regarding pizza specificially.
Anyway
>photorealistic man-on-mare
Is this even an issue for pony boorus? I genuinely can't think of the last time I saw photorealistic generated horse porn. There's some horsey artists that draw basically bestiality with hyperrealistic horse proportions and body anatomy, but those are very clearly drawings, the actual rendering is never photorealistic in style and cannot possibly be mistaken for the real deal.

>>43318402
From the linked web page, it sounds like Canada wasn't able to prosecute these kinds of cases at all. So if I acquire nude photos of someone, and if I tell her, "I'll post them unless you let me assfuck you with no lube," then I can't be prosecuted for making that threat. If she agrees then everything is legal. It's only illegal if she says no and I post them. Which is a crazy way for the law to work, so it needed to change. Whether this is the right change or not, I don't know.

Dear Twibooru, could you add the tags "pony" and "mare" to this image:
https://twibooru.org/201958

Tag edits seem to be locked. Was going through and updating some tags.

>>43319327
Done. Thanks for your contributions!

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>>43318382
Someone should tell that to my lolifag leaffrens.

>>43318467
>Whether this is the right change or not, I don't know.
in 99 out of 100 cases, it isn't the right way. Rule of thumb.

>>43321088
The goal of the legal system, at all times and in all places, is to assfuck you with no lube. The only question is the style of assfuck. Is it girthy? Long? Does it go all the way through? How many times does it happen? Do you get an incurable disease? These are all important questions.

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>>43312452
450€ / $515 for 4 used 6TB drives. About between 1000 and 1400 days of runtime each.
Fuck I hate the EU market. Hamburgerfags can two brand new 12TB drives for this price....

bump

>>43321782
*can buy two

>>43319334
Could you add "pony" and "mare" to this one too?
https://twibooru.org/67097

Was doing another batch of edits tonight.

>>43319334
>>43322213
Found another:
https://twibooru.org/3797425

Please add "pony" "mare" "stallion"

>>43322213
>>43322231
Certainly. These tag locks arise as a result of edit wars and vandalism, the latter of which is exceedingly common on featured images.

>>43322749
Thank you.

So nobody is planning to archive old Desuarchive data?

Lol they took down the clop Czu pic. It's over.

>>43323056
And nothing of value was lost.
+ they removed the tranny OC from the article too

>>43323067
>spoiler
which one was that?

Why are we talking about Wikipedo like it matters?

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>>43323056
The paper-thin excuse for that was the article being featured in a frontpage "Did you know?" entry, though there seems to be no rush to reinstate the image(s) now that that's done with. The talk page is a trip I would not advise embarking on without first drafting a will.

>>43323092
>inappropriate adult-child relationships
Gotta love how they keep it as vague as possible so they can ban you for literally anything whatsoever.

Underage user messages you with an editorial question and you respond? Banned for life!

>>43317182
It's not catbox just deleting things on a whim, no matter how much you want to disparage the site for having anime mascots and images. Storage space and hosting costs forced one of the servers to be temporarily taken offline.

>>43323250
>responding only after several days
>still bringing up his boogeyman to try to add weight to his argument
Go be a retard somewhere else.

>>43323271
It's literally the truth, cunt.
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43316838/#43317276
Catbox's owner already addressed the situation and he is absolutely not randomly deleting pony content just because you want to spread bullshit.

>>43323279
Yeah, I'll believe any random anon's post too. If you care so much, email him to ask him if that post is legit. Either way, I'm making backups of the data, which I don't see your sorry ass doing. So unless you actually have anything to add to this thread, kindly fuck off.

>>43323282
No. YOU email him. YOU are the one claiming he's in on some conspiracy to delete pony content.

Halfway done with 2025. For some reason a ton more 404s for this year than 2024 (1320 so far, compared to 75 for 2024). A lot of PNGs missing for this year too, besides the media files.

>>43323329
Just piss off already if you're not willing to do anything for this thread but complain.

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>>43323370
>blame catbox for files disappearing
>it's not actually catbox's fault, a server had to be temporarily taken offline
>get proven objectively wrong by the owner of catbox
>start throwing a tantrum and trying to chase people out of the thread for not falling for the sharty-led CATBOX IS LE BAD NAO psyop
Blow it out your ass, retard. You don't get to spread lies about a file host people have used for over a decade and have a tardout when exposed for lying.

>>43323412
>>get proven objectively wrong by the owner of catbox
Hey, Anon... my uncle works at Nintendo. Just so you know.

>>43323412
How is "taking the server offline" not Catbox's fault, retard? Thousands of files are missing, some of them hardly even old at all, as >>43318087 confirmed. It doesn't matter what the actual reason may be, that makes it an unreliable file host.

>>43323465
>it's le unreliable because payment processor attacks and datacenters spamming the storage drives to death
Why do you insist on dying on this hill?

>>43323472
yes, who could possibly benefit from drowning this thread in fake drama?

Got 2025 done in total, or what's left of it anyway. Another 953 missing files.

>>43323472
Make yourself useful and email the owner. Or don't, and keep filling up this thread with pointless bullshit nobody cares about.

>>43323484
YOU email the owner. YOU are the one claiming the site is randomly deleting files and claiming the owner posting in another thread is lying.

>>43323484
2026 has been backupped, until February 15th at least, which is the date of my last link dump. I'll dump the rest of the links for this year later, Desuarchive's search is currently down.

All of these files will be uploaded to the Internet Archive, which is going to take a while, because the IA's software is a horrible piece of shit (it took me over 3 days to upload the Lain.la backup with all the timeouts, and that was just roughly 20 GB, and this is over 153 GB so far).

>Lots of new posts
>It's 95% drama
Ugh.

>>43323484
Did you backup any of the previous years ?

How much of the cost is the egress traffic when running a site? If bots make up 95% of the traffic, I assume it is pretty bad for boorus.

>>43324207
I have all years (Catbox links started appearing in 2016 on /mlp/) backupped now up till Feb 15th of this year. Unfortunately, Desuarchive's search doesn't seem to be coming back anytime soon and arch.b4k.dev doesn't have search enabled on /mlp/ so I can't grab the rest of this year's links right now.

I'll retry every year that had 404 errors (2019 and later) in a few weeks. Assuming >>43317276 is legit, part of the broken links could come back at a later time. If that happens, I'll also check if any of the remaining 404s have by any chance been indexed by the Wayback Machine, and try to fix some errors where the link contained a typo (I managed to retrieve one 404 by changing the URL from .jpeg to .jpg, for example, but I can't comb through thousands of broken links, I'll only do this if the amount of errors returns to a handful like it was before).

>>43320907
Last time I checked the law said "realistic" so most loli work would be legal.

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>>43324469
If you are paying a significant amount (or, any non-fixed amount at all, honestly) for egress traffic, you are getting scammed. There's nothing else to say about it, really. Every server that's ever been involved in hosting Twibooru has either had unlimited traffic, or an absurd cap like 50TB/mo for some amount in the neighborhood of $20/mo, which has never been exceeded.

>>43324942
Is it time to panic now?

>>43324942
I think the funniest part of this is that they initially made the announcement italicized but forgot to add a closing italics tag so the whole site became italicized.

>>43325546
Kek. At least it caught people's attention.

>>43324582
Desuarchive's search is back up, so I managed to grab the remaining links for this year. Going to download them in a bit.

Also backed up all haystack.yerf.org links, because why not? Zero broken links here, your loli AI slop is safe. (Not sure if I'll upload this to the IA though.)

twiboorus derpi importer is broken again
it only imported 10 images from the past 4 hours

>>43326372
Derpibooru turned up their anti-bot to 11 today, I need to write a workaround and I don't honestly know if I have the energy, but I will try.

>>43326047
Update: 2026 has been downloaded in full, only 36 broken links this time (again, with some duplicates). I still need to download the Catbox album links though, and also search for those for earlier years (I only searched for "files.catbox.moe" links last time, apparently). Also need to adjust the script to download those albums, so that's going to take a bit longer.

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>hurr durr catbox is le deleting content
meanwhile

>>43327652
What exactly are you trying to achieve here?

>>43327652
It looks to be up, but for whatever reason I've never been able to load the site from my home ISP. I have to use cellular to be able to access it.

>>43327758
>pointing out a site isn't loading is suddenly a conspiracy

>>43327769
Conspiracy? You've been openly shitting up the thread for days now. Are you the Catbox owner? If so, fix your shit if you want people to keep using your site. If you're not then I have no idea why you care so much what file host people choose to use.

>>43327789
>pointing out that (You) are lying is "shitting up the thread"
Sorry you're not allowed to slander web hosts without being disputed.

>>43327803
Slander is spoken. Defamatory statements published online (including anonymous posts) would qualify as libel.

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>>43328352

Speaking of Desu"""archive""", there are a lot of /trash/ pony threads buried in all the other garbage on there. Would it be possible to create something akin to https://www.ztarchive.com/, but catering to ponyggers instead?

>>43328979
/trash/ pony thread is just one mentally ill tripfag spamming nearly indistinguishable aislop pics until bump limit.

>>43328993
You're only thinking of "official pony thread" (which I think has at least two mentally ill tripfags, not just one). But there's also /clop/, /malp/, and occasional other pony threads like fat fetish ponies and gay ponies.

>>43329234
You want that stuff backupped?

>>43329265
I'm not >>43328979. Those other threads do have discussions, and I guess those could be archived. Maybe there are some AI gens that aren't available elsewhere? But I don't have a strong feeling about it.

twibooru error 1033

>twibooru is down
>again
>>43329265
Are you opposing it because they don't involve your trash fetish?

>>43329426
I'm not opposing anything, go ahead and make a backup if you want. I simply won't be the one doing it. (Also because I have zero interest in making backups of frogs, jaks and other image board blights.)

>>43329473
What do redditjaks and facebook frogs have to do with the fatpone and gaypone threads?

If you are the owner of this website:
Ensure that cloudflared is running and can reach the network. You may wish to enable load balancing for your tunnel.

So when is the next site coming out?

>>43329694
Kikeflare must be purged from existence.

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>>43330513

>>43329234
don't forget /striped/ and /bpone/!

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>>43331132

>>43331132
Gee, thanks, Anon. I omitted those threads completely by accident last time. I did want to remember them. Who would want to forget about them? Nobody would ever want to forget about threads like that. Not me, that's for sure. I could never be accused of intentionally forgetting those threads.

>>43331132
>>43331212
I already thoroughly despise the concept of Blacked, but pairing ponies with niggers always seemed like a special kind of evil to me.

Intentionally omitting to archive pony content you personally dislike is boxless behavior

>>43331324
Nobody owes you anything. If you want it backupped, go ahead and make yourself useful. Otherwise quit whining.

>>43331324
Why would I want to archive Moonatik's art?

>>43331324
Even ATF considers you vermin. Quit rocking the boat lest you fall out and no one reaches out to catch you.

>>43331324
To add to my point here >>43331327, it's only a problem if someone has agreed to blanket archive something. If someone says "I'm going to make a Derpibooru backup" for example, then you shouldn't exclude content just because you don't like it. If I wanted to archive /trash/ pony threads, it would be hypocritical of me to not include the ones that don't cater to my fetish. But I don't want to archive any /trash/ pony threads, so your argument doesn't concern me.

Same reason why nobody has stepped up to create a Tantabus archive yet: the majority of people that care simply don't care for AI slop (I do, but only when I make my own, so I don't care about archiving it either).

>>43331359
I think it's fine to archive selectively as long as it's clear what is and isn't being archived. I think it's fine if someone announces, "I will archive /trash/ pony threads, except for anthro threads and the autism dumpster of 'official pony thread'." They don't have to archive /malp/ because they never said they would archive /malp/. But they also can't later say, "I don't archive /striped/ because nobody who matters likes that shit." That's wrong even though it's objectively true that nobody who matters likes that shit.

>>43331400
Yeah, the most important part to me is that someone is clear about their objectives. Otherwise people will rely on you and have the rug pulled under them at a later time when they find out you weren't being honest with your claims. See poneb.in for example.

How do the mares archive all of their humie fics?

>>43332234
Big-ass shelves.

>>43331424
Did ponebin ever deleted anything?
Your comparison is wrong.

>>43332389
It artificially restricted access to only those it deemed worthy, which is just as bad.

>>43332653
As I said, your comparison is wrong.

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>>43332234
They send copies to the mane library.

>>43332889
Kill yourself, retard.

>>43331340
What does the alcohol, tobacco, and firearms bureau have to do with pony content?

Are there any good compression tools/sites for compressing large videos? Trying to post shit to Twibooru but it's too big.

>>43333202
I remember there was some "WebM for brainlets" program posted around this site for a while in the past, but I forgot the actual name.

>twibooru is broken
>again
FIX IT

>>43333202
Handbrake. It's all you need.
>but muh weebum
Twibooru supports non-meme codecs so you don't need webm for retards or any of its soi'd renames.

>>43333252
>this retard again
Stop shilling your ISO patented garbage.

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>>43331340
why would anyone care about the opinions of those cucks?

>>43333202
Use ffmpeg command line and manually tune the compression parameters (bitrate).

>>43331324
Archiving everything on /mlp/ but then excluding everything you don't like is evil.
For /trash/, things are more complicated. Most of it is just duplicate files from boorus of with no actual text.
IMO, Anons who are archiving a bunch of arbitrary /trash/ threads are not really contributing to anything, and are likely to miss everything important, just like how enormous amount of stuff was permanently lost back in 2010-2011 when Anons archived /co/ threads manually.
Archiving entirety of /trash/ would be more useful (and in-scope for both big MLP archivers), but it would be out-of-scope for this thread, despite immense usefullness for MLP content.

>>43331340
What an odd thing to say.

>>43333363
Nobody cares about patents, retard. Webm is outdated and trash. Ideally we'd be using fucking AV1 but then you freetards and turdies would be bawling because your 10 year old phones and 15 year old thinkpads couldn't handle it. MP4 is just better and has access to better codecs. No reason to shill it over something superior and with GPU encoding abilities.

byte[] is planning to add JPEG XL support to Philomena once FF and Chrome support leaves testing phase, btw.

>>43334632
>implying furpi will last that long

>>43334357
>Archiving everything on /mlp/ but then excluding everything you don't like is evil.
I disagree. I think excluding the daily frogshitter threads and other garbage spam is perfectly acceptable. In fact, I think an archive is improved by excluding such noise. I wouldn't exclude legit content like Barbies or something though, even if I don't care for it.

>>43334632
Doesn't JPEG XL allow you to losslessly recompress original JPEGs? Might be a good idea to do that to all JPEGs and then send a JPEG XL or JPEG version depending on the user agent. Might save some bandwidth. Would be important to not strip additional metadata fields though, like comments or whatever, but it could be that Derpibooru already does this in its "optimization".

>>43334491
>sharty lingo
>"Nobody cares about patents"
Thanks for proving that you are a clueless idiot. Now stop shitting up the thread.

>>43334632
Please no...
I'm already fed up with the gazzilion different file formats. These days you can't just save an image from the web because the only software which will open it is the web browser.

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>>43333363
>>43334764
Why would sites that laugh at the concept of copyright care about patents?

>>43334782
Other boorus already support webp, byte[] is based for outright refusing to add that outdated format.

>>43334788
>supporting less features is good actually guys

>>43334764
Nothing said there is "sharty lingo", asswipe. Go back to slandering catbox.

>>43334790
>bloat is good
The case can be made for JXL and AVIF, but webp is completely useless legacy format at this point, same as TGA.

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>>43334823
No objection, though it still leaves the question of what to do with images that have already been converted to WebPiss. Instagram is particularly awful about this, with certain uploads only being available in high resolution as .webp files.

>>43334790
>not having to deal with random compatibility issues is actually good guys

>>43334838
Most of the time you can use http headers to force CDN to spit out PNG instead

>>43334811
You still at this? Please provide your evidence of Catbox NOT removing all the files I mentioned before, otherwise shut the fuck up. No, the anonymous poster claiming it's just a server that's been disabled is not enough (and I've already proved it's many more files than just the ones he talked about).

>>43334880
Thanks for confirming you're the sharty-aligned shitposter projecting your guilt unto others.

>>43334886
All you confirmed is that you're intentionally shitting up discussion. If there's anyone associated with the sharty it's you. You're not getting a single more responses from me. Fucking end your life.

>pointing out that catbox is NOT in fact deleting pony content and that the owner of catbox has clarified the situation is "shitting up discussion"
Blow it out your ass, strawberryfag-tier shitposter. This thread isn't for you to LIE about websites to push some retarded agenda and pretend you're the savior the board needs.

>>43334782
Any image viewer that's competently made will support image formats, even modern windows' default image viewer.

>>43335037
>modern windows' default image viewer
that would require it to function in the first place, anon

This thread has more drama than every other general I visit combined.

Bump.

>>43335254
It literally does, retard. It opens files. It opens webp, jxl, etc.

>>43336150
>retard retard retard

>>43336297
You don't need to sign your posts here, certainly not in triplicate.

>>43336300
>hurrr durrr

>>43335362
Ain't it great?

>>43335362
Tragedy or comedy dramas?

>>43337769
It's comedy until I remember it's not fiction.

>>43335872

>>43338032
a big chunk of the claims made in this thread are fiction.

>>43339328
>vagueposting

>>43338850

>>43304826
iwiftp.yerf.org has been ragewiped lol

>>43340769
>ragewiped
source?

>>43340770
It came to me in a dream.

>>43340769
Webdav is down too

>>43340769
Looks like it's back up.

>>43341832
Down again.

>>43341981
Works for me.

>>43341832
yay

Up.

>>43342930

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>>43331340
>I can be a pedophile but at least I'm not a nazi argument

>>43344224
How is your archival effort going?

>>43344224
Zackerybooru was never part of the hydra.

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This Chinese Derpibooru mirror was apparently launched back in June: https://picpony.top/

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>>43344884
>horse racing

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>>43344916
I think it's probably a wordplay that doesn't translate well or something. Like "brony" for us
https://www.equestriacn.com/

>10

>>43345937

Is Twibooru slow as shit for anyone else? It's gotten so bad I'm falling back to Ponerpics.

>>43347530
Late night it was really bad, going unresponsive every 15 minutes or so.

>>43347535
The index loads for me (slowly) but full images fail to load entirely.

>>43317750
didn't realize baraag was in trouble. Haven't really been on there lately. Sometimes, it seems like the payment processors are winning with cleansing 2D of anything they deem objectionable.

>>43347530
Still extremely slow.

>>43348628
That's because they are. The agenda to enshittify the entire internet is slowly but surely pushing on, identity verification is up next. There's no future for the normienet, and I doubt there's much of a future for the "darkweb" either. And the plans don't stop at the internet either.

>>43349438
Fuck, yeah, I don't know why I can't just draw what makes me happy and share it with others. Do we really need to get Palantir and the government involved? And it's the lowest hanging of fruit, just look at the rape report out of Britain.

>>43347530
Yeah, I usually upload there but I wasn't able to upload new stuff and it never showed up once I did.

So are all the alt-boorus unstable now?

>>43347530
I'm going to start raping anons at random if this site isn't fucking fixed. Also,
>pg 8

>>43350661
Just Twibooru for me. What problems are you having with Ponerpics (or Ponybooru even if it can no longer really be considered an alternative)?

>>43351104
Lots of internal server errors with Ponerpics lately.

On twibooru is there a shorthand for "derpibooru_id:xxx"? Something like "did:xxx"?

>>43351917
No, and every time i've bitched at the faggot about it he's done exactly nothing to implement one.

>>43351921
Just suck him off at Mare Fair, that'll do it.

>>43351964
That would require me to both suck him off and also tolerate going to Fur Fair, i will be doing neither.

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>>43352023
I do not believe for a second that Strawberryfag would be able to resist the fillycock.

>>43352132
Your aim is also bad.

>>43346440

>>43351917
Just write a userscript for it or something

>>43350661
Poner works fairly well. When you get the occasional server error, a usual refresh will do the trick.

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In less than a month, it will have been one year since I've been able to contact Lotus.

>>43353460
Wait, what happened to Lotus? How ponerpics and /mlpol/ is even functioning without him? Doesn't he pay for domain and such? Also physical hardware is literally in his home

>>43353923
I checked, and April 1st this year had an event as usual on PonerPics, so your post was just FUD.