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Welcome to Chatbot AI General #184, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
bonziPONY: https://github.com/maresmaresmares/bonziPONY
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
Pony TTS app supporting SillyTavern: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>43311664

**News:**

- Sonnet 5 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-5
- GLM-5.2 released https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.2
- Claude Fable 5 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5 and then died https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999
- Claude Opus 4.8 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-8
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Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
Previous >>43311668
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Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
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Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
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Bots corner:

>Allie Way
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Allie%20Way.png
>Amethyst Star
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Amethyst%20Star.png
>Slave Pony Universe
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=nd1_/Slave%20Pony%20Universe.png

Screenshots corner:

Lyra Please >>43312136
Veil >>43312173
Sad Shy >>43312440
Threesome? >>43312496
Hardcore Petting >>43312655
Pairing Stone >>43312871
Ponies Are Just Nicer >>43312874
Human Bros... >>43313026
Cap'n >>43313216
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Screenshots corner 2:

Anon the Addict >>43313840
Penis Inspection Month >>43314064
Earth Pony Strength >>43315553
Is That? O >>43316021
The Celestia Experience >>43316659
Doot >>43317435
Freckles >>43318204
Pony Paparazzi >>43318215
Tax Evasion >>43318282
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Screenshots corner 3:

Cool Names >>43318386
Lucky Shining >>43318429
Looking Good >>43318515
Racist Claude >>43319769
Ragepone >>43320266
Young Adult Celly >>43320459
Depraved Craving >>43322989
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VN Anchor:

Godot Versions:

>Website
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/
>Windows
>Main files + Data folder
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OEiMXN7o_QG32shGnqmy0QndVDT6nYbF/view?usp=sharing
>Main files only
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fhe-OeIlNIYFFGx2FlnpuxcIkYdOFGh2/view?usp=sharing
>Linux
>Main files + Data folder
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vszzn8TTfXFWSQeKiFdNAAQGXfcReTJ3/view?usp=sharing
>Main files only
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPlIstcgQjyXqhOl4L_ZqMPeUQW5Xn2-/view?usp=sharing
>Android (Beta)
>APK + Data folder
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WB08tguZa1PD1frJKdo7IxlGsp4XR0Wp/view?usp=sharing
>APK only
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPOSGufXi_-PjmjaKES9waJ6HZZOcL9V/view?usp=sharing

Bug reports or requests:
https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj

Source code:
https://gitlab.com/ponyponyparadise/equestrai

Nightmare AU (Renpy/Godot)
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#nightmareMod

G5 Worldmap
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#g5Mod

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

To help with vectors and backgrounds:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAE

>TTS VN mod release v1
>>43314835
https://u.pone.rs/xuxdwjzk.zip

>Impression Mod V1:
>>43306680

VN logs:

Wooing Applejack >>43311700
Rabbit Season >>43311882
Senpai'ly >>43312207
Plapping a Mini >>43315010
Fitting >>43316582
Hard Choice >>43317345
Can't Go Home >>43321989
Special Ingredient >>43322732
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Guide for Newcomers:

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Models and Explanations:
rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
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>>43324594
Sonnet 5 released.
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-5
>Claude Sonnet 5 is available everywhere today at an introductory price of $2 per million input tokens and $10 per million output tokens through August 31, 2026.
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Lovemaking with AI mares!
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>>43324616
I am eagerly waiting for applejack anon review
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>>43324608
TTS mod v1.1, working run script
>>43315801
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how the FUCK are you supposed to come up with good names and cutie marks for your pony personas
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Is BotBooru just not showing any cards for anyone else?
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>>43323923
>>43322798
Can you try:
https://u.pone.rs/euhevodj.zip
But launch it using the .command file?
Sorry for that; I have zero knowledge of Mac and can't really test on my end.
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>>43324715
works on my machine
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You don't use the hard T, do you anon?
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>>43324772
But I've heard the fancy nobles and they say it with a hard T.
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>>43324662
Think of what the poner does first. When you have the talent, it's easier to figure out the mark and the name.
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>>43317738
>>43319014
I accept defeat and pay.
Is glm better/same/worse than gemini? Is what I know.
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>>43324817
far better imo. GLM writes like opus 4.5 that knows a bit less. Maybe better at nsfw but a little worse at sfw due to knowing a bit less
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How come I can't access the library or the tea shop from the map in the VN?
I have to pull out the entire locations list to access them
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>>43324608
I kind of wish i could use simulator/non character cards from the /chag/ neocities page on the VN as an overarching thing for the AI to go off of
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>>43324880
Dunno. I have both with the new version.
>>43324608
Check in
>Scenario Customs
https://u.pone.rs/qdsbrfcx.png
that you didn't disable them.
https://u.pone.rs/ngquaapz.png
If not, then maybe your data folder isn't up to date or the JSONs were modified. Just download the new version.
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>>43324781
>Think of what the poner does first
but my special talent is already taken
cardrel
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Coelian/Rapey.png
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>>43324608
>>43324885
a better question might be how do i deal with editing the characters?

i understand obviously i can just type in new descriptions, but are there any practical limits? i noticed a lot of the character decriptions are quite bare, is there a reason for this? is adding something as long as the sillytavern card descriptions too much and will break the way the VN works?
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>>43324923
>i noticed a lot of the character descriptions are quite bare, is there a reason for this?
Most medium to big models already know MLP characters. They know the color of the coat, mane, personality, family, history, etc., even for background characters like Octavia for instance.
We are at a stage where writing that Applejack is the Element of Honesty, hardworking but also stubborn, etc., adds next to nothing to what the model already knows and just wastes tokens.

So what should go in descriptions IMO is:
- Headcanon or alternate versions
- Traits you want reinforced
- Corrections if you see the AI is making a particular mistake, or instructions to try to stop things like Twilight being too much of a
>SCIENCE!
caricature, even if it's a hard battle.
- Real descriptions if it's an OC or a really obscure pone.

So it's empty because the basics are covered, but if needed, each player should personalize to their tastes.
>is adding something as long as the SillyTavern card descriptions too much and will break the way the VN works?
Nope. You can write as much as you want.
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>>43324923
>>43324929
super good answer, sorry, i've been out of the /chag/ game for a while now

one more thing, dynamic locations and characters, how do these function?
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How long until my Claude max subscription is banned if I scum Claude code?
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>>43324938
For locations and characters, you have three choices:
>Manual
That will add the corresponding buttons during Q&A, Roster, and/or Location. They allow you to manually choose a pony to bring or a new location to go to.
See picrel.
>Dynamic
You don't have the buttons, but you trust the AI to automatically change locations or characters. Let's say you're at the library and invite Twilight to a Hayburger; most models will know to change to this during the output.
Same for characters.
You can see what is being sent to the AI for this in the Menu Prompt Editor under the Dynamic Location/Character tabs.
>Dynamic+
Dynamic but also with the manual buttons to force the AI if you want to do something more complex, for instance.

Just know that this system doesn't work during "Story mode" (the start of the game where Twilight makes you visit her friends) but only during "Sandbox mode" (the mode you're in when you have all the ponies and all the locations on the map. That's also the mode you're in directly if you do a custom or quick start).
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>>43324946
if you scum it properly via fake headers and so on it will last
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>>43324955
I think horselock is doing that. Been going for two days now, hoping to get at least close to a month out of it before having to worry about getting a burner credit card or something.
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Intense fighting scene
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>>43324923
>>43324929
Local chad here. 3 paragraphs about the most important aspects of the characters used to be enough for small local models(12b-35b range). If you're too lazy or can't brainstorm it yourself, just go into an AI chat provider with a big model and tell it that's what you're making/need and to brainstorm with you. Now that Lore Books are part of the VN, you should lean more heavily on those if you want more than that and to add character relationship details with each other it won't know(ie, put the Mane 6 and their dispositions/relationships towards one another individually in there, keep things specific to the subject character in the actual character blurb).

Speaking of, there's a new model king for locals, better than my previous recommendation of HuahuaCS. Gemma 4 12B Queen it qat 1l by mradermacher. Better story beat comprehension, scene direction, and prose. Summaries are also good. I would say with good character details and correct settings, this is about on par with Gemini 3.5 Flash, with exception to the very rare factual error.
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>>43324593
Someone had to do it eventually.

Now the Pony of Pop has her own card:https://litter.catbox.moe/6tgi6i7ih7tpws48.png

Three greetings
1) You're her new manager
2) Stranded on an island with her
3) She needs your help coming up with a new song
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>>43324608
>do a dream
>scenario plays out
>"do you want to continute?"
>yes
>no Q&A box...
>try to save and reload
>throws me back to before i started the dream giving me dream options or sleep normal
>click sleep normal
>entire screen goes gray and cannot open the menu to either save or load
fuck
thank god i saved
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>>43324662
Pony names tend to follow conventions. Use those conventions.

>Unicorns with a focus in magic
>Cosmological/astronomical/adjective+luminious
Twilight+Sparkle
Sunset+Shimmer
Starlight+Glimmer
Moon+Dancer
Sun+Burst

>Unicorns without a focus in magic
>Sometimes single word, but generally classical/high society/aesthetic/aristocratic
Lyra
Rarity
Fancy Pants
Upper Crust
Shining Armor
Etc

>Pegasus names
>There's a whole joke in the show about this
Go meteorological
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALIfT1mNKw

>Earth Ponies
>The most diverse, but typically as might be a pun on their subtype sake, their names tend to be the most down to earth and focused on their professions or some physical attribute
Mr. and Ms. Cake
Apple family all having Apple names
Pie family all having rock names(save Pinkie Pie who took her grandmother's name sake - and is PINK)
Dr. Fauna
Feather Bangs

Work from there.
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https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2072106151890809341
fable back tomorrow. Feeling like a crackhead waiting for his fix. Opus just wasn't the same.
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>>43325085
>open save
>every option leads to inevitable gray screen
I WAS HAVING FUUUUUUUUUNNNNN
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https://u.pone.rs/pxlqxuee.py
pip install fastapi uvicorn httpx pydantic
python3 pxlqxuee.py

SillyTavern: Chat Completion Custom http://localhost:8001/v1
API Key: anything or nothing both should work

Shit will die fast imo, use while you can, all openrouter models
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>>43325100
Can you upload the save, I will try to unblock you if I can and that will allow me to see the bug
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>>43325100
>>43325104
Also, check the Autosaves. Maybe you will have a good one.
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>>43325100
>>43325085
Made some changes with better protection:
>Windows
https://u.pone.rs/sihiency.zip
>Linux
https://u.pone.rs/uykczphd.zip
There's a high chance your save will work with this. If not, tell me and give me the save if you can.
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>>43325100
>>43325104
>>43325109
>>43325132
no worries, it was super minor and i had a save from litterally 2 Q&A's ago, worked out fine no need to do a save revival or anything

here's your reward for being so helpful
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>>43324608
sometimes i wish i didn't have to auto sleep because i wanna hang out with dashie but the day is divided into 2 visits

now obviously there's a very reasonable technical reason for this i'm sure but is it okay to ask why this is the case?
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>>43324592
BREAKING: FABLE 5 IS BACK!

>We’ve received notice that the Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5.
>We'll begin restoring access tomorrow, and will share an update soon.
>We’re grateful to our users for their patience, and to everyone who worked with us on redeploying the models.

https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2072106151890809341?s=20
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>>43325154
What a good pony.
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>>43325202
Whats the fucking catch? Or did they tell Donnie that it was just marketing hype and Fable is just Opus 4.9?
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>>43325202
not back yet
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>>43325199
nvm, turns out i can just use roster and location to extend a visit to another horse
neato
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>>43325202
FINALLY
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>>43325102
>fastapi
Can't really use this then, but I hope everyone else has fun with it.
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>>43325202
>It's back!
>But nowhere at reach...
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>>43325102
Damn, not even the smallest hint of gatekeeping with this one?
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never in my life has /chag/ affected me beyond small little parlor tricks and 5-10 message interactions but damn...
i present to you, the log that gave me a boner
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>>43325374
if this slop gave you a boner imagine what GOOD prose could do



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