Welcome to Chatbot AI General #184, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipbonziPONY: https://github.com/maresmaresmares/bonziPONY!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTPony TTS app supporting SillyTavern: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>43311664**News:**- Sonnet 5 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-5- GLM-5.2 released https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.2- Claude Fable 5 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5 and then died https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999- Claude Opus 4.8 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-8
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>43311668
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Bots corner:>Allie Wayhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Allie%20Way.png>Amethyst Starhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Amethyst%20Star.png>Slave Pony Universehttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=nd1_/Slave%20Pony%20Universe.pngScreenshots corner:Lyra Please >>43312136Veil >>43312173Sad Shy >>43312440Threesome? >>43312496Hardcore Petting >>43312655Pairing Stone >>43312871Ponies Are Just Nicer >>43312874Human Bros... >>43313026Cap'n >>43313216
Screenshots corner 2:Anon the Addict >>43313840Penis Inspection Month >>43314064Earth Pony Strength >>43315553Is That? O >>43316021The Celestia Experience >>43316659Doot >>43317435Freckles >>43318204Pony Paparazzi >>43318215Tax Evasion >>43318282
Screenshots corner 3:Cool Names >>43318386Lucky Shining >>43318429Looking Good >>43318515Racist Claude >>43319769Ragepone >>43320266Young Adult Celly >>43320459Depraved Craving >>43322989
VN Anchor:Godot Versions:>Websitehttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/>Windows>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1OEiMXN7o_QG32shGnqmy0QndVDT6nYbF/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fhe-OeIlNIYFFGx2FlnpuxcIkYdOFGh2/view?usp=sharing>Linux>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vszzn8TTfXFWSQeKiFdNAAQGXfcReTJ3/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPlIstcgQjyXqhOl4L_ZqMPeUQW5Xn2-/view?usp=sharing>Android (Beta)>APK + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1WB08tguZa1PD1frJKdo7IxlGsp4XR0Wp/view?usp=sharing>APK onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPOSGufXi_-PjmjaKES9waJ6HZZOcL9V/view?usp=sharingBug reports or requests:https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsjSource code:https://gitlab.com/ponyponyparadise/equestraiNightmare AU (Renpy/Godot)https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#nightmareModG5 Worldmaphttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#g5ModAnons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersTo help with vectors and backgrounds:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAE>TTS VN mod release v1>>43314835https://u.pone.rs/xuxdwjzk.zip>Impression Mod V1:>>43306680 VN logs:Wooing Applejack >>43311700Rabbit Season >>43311882Senpai'ly >>43312207Plapping a Mini >>43315010Fitting >>43316582Hard Choice >>43317345Can't Go Home >>43321989Special Ingredient >>43322732
Guide for Newcomers:Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernModels and Explanations:rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-aihttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
>>43324594Sonnet 5 released.https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-5>Claude Sonnet 5 is available everywhere today at an introductory price of $2 per million input tokens and $10 per million output tokens through August 31, 2026.
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>>43324616I am eagerly waiting for applejack anon review
>>43324608TTS mod v1.1, working run script >>43315801
how the FUCK are you supposed to come up with good names and cutie marks for your pony personas
Is BotBooru just not showing any cards for anyone else?
>>43323923>>43322798Can you try:https://u.pone.rs/euhevodj.zipBut launch it using the .command file?Sorry for that; I have zero knowledge of Mac and can't really test on my end.
>>43324715works on my machine
You don't use the hard T, do you anon?
>>43324772But I've heard the fancy nobles and they say it with a hard T.
>>43324662Think of what the poner does first. When you have the talent, it's easier to figure out the mark and the name.
>>43317738>>43319014I accept defeat and pay.Is glm better/same/worse than gemini? Is what I know.
>>43324817far better imo. GLM writes like opus 4.5 that knows a bit less. Maybe better at nsfw but a little worse at sfw due to knowing a bit less
How come I can't access the library or the tea shop from the map in the VN?I have to pull out the entire locations list to access them
>>43324608I kind of wish i could use simulator/non character cards from the /chag/ neocities page on the VN as an overarching thing for the AI to go off of
>>43324880Dunno. I have both with the new version.>>43324608Check in>Scenario Customshttps://u.pone.rs/qdsbrfcx.pngthat you didn't disable them.https://u.pone.rs/ngquaapz.pngIf not, then maybe your data folder isn't up to date or the JSONs were modified. Just download the new version.
>>43324781>Think of what the poner does firstbut my special talent is already takencardrelhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Coelian/Rapey.png
>>43324608>>43324885a better question might be how do i deal with editing the characters?i understand obviously i can just type in new descriptions, but are there any practical limits? i noticed a lot of the character decriptions are quite bare, is there a reason for this? is adding something as long as the sillytavern card descriptions too much and will break the way the VN works?
>>43324923>i noticed a lot of the character descriptions are quite bare, is there a reason for this?Most medium to big models already know MLP characters. They know the color of the coat, mane, personality, family, history, etc., even for background characters like Octavia for instance.We are at a stage where writing that Applejack is the Element of Honesty, hardworking but also stubborn, etc., adds next to nothing to what the model already knows and just wastes tokens.So what should go in descriptions IMO is:- Headcanon or alternate versions- Traits you want reinforced- Corrections if you see the AI is making a particular mistake, or instructions to try to stop things like Twilight being too much of a>SCIENCE!caricature, even if it's a hard battle.- Real descriptions if it's an OC or a really obscure pone.So it's empty because the basics are covered, but if needed, each player should personalize to their tastes.>is adding something as long as the SillyTavern card descriptions too much and will break the way the VN works?Nope. You can write as much as you want.
>>43324923>>43324929super good answer, sorry, i've been out of the /chag/ game for a while nowone more thing, dynamic locations and characters, how do these function?
How long until my Claude max subscription is banned if I scum Claude code?
>>43324938For locations and characters, you have three choices:>ManualThat will add the corresponding buttons during Q&A, Roster, and/or Location. They allow you to manually choose a pony to bring or a new location to go to.See picrel.>DynamicYou don't have the buttons, but you trust the AI to automatically change locations or characters. Let's say you're at the library and invite Twilight to a Hayburger; most models will know to change to this during the output.Same for characters.You can see what is being sent to the AI for this in the Menu Prompt Editor under the Dynamic Location/Character tabs.>Dynamic+Dynamic but also with the manual buttons to force the AI if you want to do something more complex, for instance.Just know that this system doesn't work during "Story mode" (the start of the game where Twilight makes you visit her friends) but only during "Sandbox mode" (the mode you're in when you have all the ponies and all the locations on the map. That's also the mode you're in directly if you do a custom or quick start).
>>43324946if you scum it properly via fake headers and so on it will last
>>43324955I think horselock is doing that. Been going for two days now, hoping to get at least close to a month out of it before having to worry about getting a burner credit card or something.
Intense fighting scene
>>43324923>>43324929Local chad here. 3 paragraphs about the most important aspects of the characters used to be enough for small local models(12b-35b range). If you're too lazy or can't brainstorm it yourself, just go into an AI chat provider with a big model and tell it that's what you're making/need and to brainstorm with you. Now that Lore Books are part of the VN, you should lean more heavily on those if you want more than that and to add character relationship details with each other it won't know(ie, put the Mane 6 and their dispositions/relationships towards one another individually in there, keep things specific to the subject character in the actual character blurb).Speaking of, there's a new model king for locals, better than my previous recommendation of HuahuaCS. Gemma 4 12B Queen it qat 1l by mradermacher. Better story beat comprehension, scene direction, and prose. Summaries are also good. I would say with good character details and correct settings, this is about on par with Gemini 3.5 Flash, with exception to the very rare factual error.
>>43324593Someone had to do it eventually.Now the Pony of Pop has her own card:https://litter.catbox.moe/6tgi6i7ih7tpws48.pngThree greetings1) You're her new manager2) Stranded on an island with her3) She needs your help coming up with a new song
>>43324608>do a dream>scenario plays out>"do you want to continute?">yes>no Q&A box...>try to save and reload>throws me back to before i started the dream giving me dream options or sleep normal>click sleep normal>entire screen goes gray and cannot open the menu to either save or loadfuckthank god i saved
>>43324662Pony names tend to follow conventions. Use those conventions.>Unicorns with a focus in magic>Cosmological/astronomical/adjective+luminiousTwilight+SparkleSunset+ShimmerStarlight+GlimmerMoon+DancerSun+Burst>Unicorns without a focus in magic>Sometimes single word, but generally classical/high society/aesthetic/aristocratic LyraRarityFancy PantsUpper CrustShining ArmorEtc>Pegasus names>There's a whole joke in the show about thisGo meteorologicalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALIfT1mNKw>Earth Ponies>The most diverse, but typically as might be a pun on their subtype sake, their names tend to be the most down to earth and focused on their professions or some physical attributeMr. and Ms. CakeApple family all having Apple namesPie family all having rock names(save Pinkie Pie who took her grandmother's name sake - and is PINK)Dr. FaunaFeather BangsWork from there.
https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2072106151890809341fable back tomorrow. Feeling like a crackhead waiting for his fix. Opus just wasn't the same.
>>43325085>open save>every option leads to inevitable gray screenI WAS HAVING FUUUUUUUUUNNNNN
https://u.pone.rs/pxlqxuee.pypip install fastapi uvicorn httpx pydanticpython3 pxlqxuee.pySillyTavern: Chat Completion Custom http://localhost:8001/v1API Key: anything or nothing both should workShit will die fast imo, use while you can, all openrouter models
>>43325100Can you upload the save, I will try to unblock you if I can and that will allow me to see the bug
>>43325100>>43325104Also, check the Autosaves. Maybe you will have a good one.
>>43325100>>43325085Made some changes with better protection:>Windowshttps://u.pone.rs/sihiency.zip>Linuxhttps://u.pone.rs/uykczphd.zipThere's a high chance your save will work with this. If not, tell me and give me the save if you can.
>>43325100>>43325104>>43325109>>43325132no worries, it was super minor and i had a save from litterally 2 Q&A's ago, worked out fine no need to do a save revival or anythinghere's your reward for being so helpful
>>43324608sometimes i wish i didn't have to auto sleep because i wanna hang out with dashie but the day is divided into 2 visitsnow obviously there's a very reasonable technical reason for this i'm sure but is it okay to ask why this is the case?
>>43324592BREAKING: FABLE 5 IS BACK!>We’ve received notice that the Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5.>We'll begin restoring access tomorrow, and will share an update soon.>We’re grateful to our users for their patience, and to everyone who worked with us on redeploying the models.https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2072106151890809341?s=20
>>43325154What a good pony.
>>43325202Whats the fucking catch? Or did they tell Donnie that it was just marketing hype and Fable is just Opus 4.9?
>>43325202not back yet
>>43325199nvm, turns out i can just use roster and location to extend a visit to another horseneato
>>43325202FINALLY
>>43325102>fastapiCan't really use this then, but I hope everyone else has fun with it.
>>43325202>It's back!>But nowhere at reach...
>>43325102Damn, not even the smallest hint of gatekeeping with this one?
never in my life has /chag/ affected me beyond small little parlor tricks and 5-10 message interactions but damn...i present to you, the log that gave me a boner
>>43325374if this slop gave you a boner imagine what GOOD prose could do
>>43325382how do I achieve good prose anon....
>>43325385in my experience. edit your responses, often, direct the model, don't bloat your prompt, and tailor your shit til it works. theres so much sloppa concentrated in that log you posted but i assume you haven't been trained to sniff it out yet
>>43325411i cannot discern sloppa as this is my legit first long run everdashies ozone is so hot, how do i make the model include this more?
>>43325425tfw fell for the b8.................
>>43325425>ozone is so hot, how do i make the model include this moreIt's easy, you tell it to never use the word ozone under any circumstance
lol so fable is coming back, but only for a few days before its api only AND it wont allow coding
>>43325438Most powerful model strictly used for making love to artificial equines?
>>43325432>>43325436i fucking jinxed it and it's now doing this reversion slop where it just loops about>heh, whatever you're comfortable withand then has no progressit's so brutal
>>43325636
>>43324625Me too brother, me too. I am cautiously optimistic regarding this one even though the last two opus were pretty bad.
>>43324625>>43325859I guess the model is just that bad
>>43325082This will go great with my Coloratura corruption chats.
>le fable is le backWe've literally had China based Fable access for two weeks. It's way too censored and too expensive.
I disappointed. No one fucking LLM capable to generate for me plausible story from setting of alternate Earth, transformed by ponies in medieval period.What I mean? There is card about people, who were issekai'd in this world (rewritten https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Equestrian%20Journal.png).The narrator supposed to find old stuff from pre-pony world like old ruins or books with stories, where should be mentioned elements of old lifestyle - and all models, even high-end expensive shit like ChatGPT can't generate stories from these books plausible and interesting. I haven't tried Fable, because it's not on OR, but I don't think that even it would be smart enough (when it was available on OR, month or so ago, I tried to generate some stuff from Freedom Fighters setting and it couldn't figure of that if Korean War ended in victory of NK, that capital of Korea in 2000 should be Seoul, not Pyongyang).Sorry, I'm just tired from this shit. I can't stop vibe-prompting with Claude and constantly, every day, check these prompts and making new ideas for vibepromting...
>>43326003and thats why you guys locust any opus source you can get your hands on right?Stop coping
>>43326003do you mean glm 5.2? if so i agree
>surf still timing outgoodbye, friendill miss the free opus 4.1
>>43326145Well that's not going to get him out of bed...
>>43325082Added! Thanks a lot, Anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sapphire%20Shores.png
the /g/ and /vg/ generals are so useless and headache inducing that i've started coming here for model discussion instead
>>43326114Why did you have to go and make>>43326057seem like hes right...
Anyone tried sonnet 5? Is it any good?
>>43326057I use Opus 4.6 or 4.5 mostly.>>43326068Glm5.2 is great and a straight improvement over 5.1; I do mean Fable which has been available on C**** for a while but is much more expensive and censored than the other Opus options there.
>>43326243I think all current models are either dumb or not creative enough, but by those standards, I think it's bretty gud
>>43326264>I do mean Fable, which has been available on C**** for a whileIt's been disabled globally, Anon. They weren't giving you Fable at all; it was probably rerouted to some scuffed Claude.>>43326243It's hard to review nu-Claude models nowadays because they start to feel the same.Writing is Claude, so if you're sick of it, that won't change. Swipe variety seems decent enough for a Claude model. I wasn't getting filtered, but I don't do anything hardcore, and the outputs do seem sloppier when it goes for NSFW.It's "cheaper" than other Sonnet models right now, but it uses the same new tokenizers as Opus 4.7 and above that make you pay more than before. Once the reduction is over, I have a hard time justifying the price compared to something like GLM 5.2.In terms of smarts, it's still below Opus. I didn't see a big change in that compared to previous Sonnet.
>>43326236tbf id use glm 5.2 but i cant find any source for it that isnt either ratelimited to fuck or requires forking over jewgle shit
>>43326282nanogpt gives 60M per week for $12 a month. You also get access to like 100 other OS models like kimi / minimax and such if you want to try them
>>43326282r*** has it iirc
>>43326331is it back on there?last i checked its only gpt and gemini
>>43326352NTA, but no. It still say "Insufficient balance" in chinese.
>>43326331nigga just say riftai
>>43326356oh well that sucks>>43326397>no, dont gatekeepi dont think ill be listening to you
GPT5.5 can be the best model at times...
>>43326433Over API?
>>43326459Goddamn, gpt writes a novel every time if you don't limit it.
Anyone here running opus 4.6 rn?I've just started chatting with it for a while and... It has typosAnd connected wordsIs it just me or... Is this what it looks like when they limit a model to force you to swap?
Has anyone tried the Cloudflare way for free glm?
>>43324608currently fucking tweaking due to custom scenario always being able to do the opening scene, but when i ask something in the Q&A, it will either do its thinking then change the sprite but with zero text and instantly open another Q&A box, or will just think for eternity, any fix?running deepseek v4 flash if that matters
>>43326552I would check what the model returned to you in the logs here:>Windows:C:\Users\<YourUser>\AppData\Roaming\Godot\app_userdata\PonyPonyParadise\logs>Linux:/home/<YourUser>/.local/share/godot/app_userdata/PonyPonyParadise/logsAnd see if there are obvious errors. If you see where it blocks, you may want to try modifying the Q&A prompts in the menu to help the model. Maybe with examples.
>>43326564okay so it outputs a response in the logs, but just doesn't appear in gamewould you like me to upload the logs for you to go through? if so do you want just the chat log txt file or the godot one as well? just if you're curious, I'm not throwing this on you I sweari vaguely feel like i had this issue ages ago at one point but can't remember how i solved it
fable is amazing but apparently its only gonna be on the sub till the 7th
Fable direct api injection, its always there.
>>43326581>okay so it outputs a response in the logs, but just doesn't appear in game>would you like me to upload the logs for you to go through? if so do you want just the chat log txt file or the godot one as well?Yeah, if you can upload an archive with both, I'll look into it.>I'm not throwing this on you I swearI have time right now, and if this can help fix a bug in the game, then it's cool.
>>43326591go through em all you want, be warned i'm a stupid faggot, thank fuck i'm anonymous>https://mare.by/9veht3U1.txtthis is the AI logs>https://mare.by/9uuh3KT7.logand this is the Godot log file i mentionedif you want any other info feel free to ask, though i leave pretty soon and won't have pc access until a few hours later
>>43326589>>43326585how do we know what direct api injects look like if its sub only
>>43326602huh? you read that backwards. I mean it will not be on subs after the 7th and will become api only which is MUCH MUCH more expensive
>>43326602because I am using a direct api and not a sub.The reading comprehension here never ceases to amaze me truly.
>>43326599Yeah, unfortunately that's the model outputting the wrong format. For instance, it wrote Starlight dialogue and action without saying who was speaking or using the narrator.I can add some security measures in a future version, but not for everything.To see if it helps, try lowering the temperature a bit in the API menu and adding an example for the Q&A and scene prompts (Prompts Editor in the menu).Try adding something like:# Example of a correctly formatted response[sprite: twi curious]twi "Anon? I didn't expect to see you out here this early."narrator "She steps closer, tilting her head as the morning light catches her mane."[sprite: twi happy]twi "Well, either way, it's good to see you."
>>43326610oh god damn it, i need to stop drunkpostingthanks for providing an actual answer
>>43326034Tried Fable and it, oddly enough, generate best result. Opus, Gemini, GPT and DS did it with poorer prose.
>>43326668The two best models ever made for creative writing were gpt4.5 and now fable. And all it is is sheer size. You can feel how HUGE the models are just by how much they know. And the more they know the better they can generalize.
>>43326589can you gimme the prompt for that? Or was it a lot of engineering to get it there?
>>43326678Fed question
>>43326689Ye sorry I don't just take random shit posted online for the truth. Here's what my fable says.
>>43326673hot take
>>43326589nonconfillieswincestwhy does fable hate my fetishes
>>43326523Should have studied about horse marriage.
>>43326589>aging up characters doesn't count>mfw no AI sex with any character because everyone was a kid once and then aged upAbsolute retardation.
God damn it, fable is so good and I lose it on the 7th. Please openai release sol and force them to keep it on the sub.
4 requests with fable costs $1 on OR lol. Not even that much context
>>43326738>Cache hit rate 0%
>>43326746never gotten that to work even with no random stuff in my prompt
why use goyimble when i can use SOVLKING GLM
>>43326750Then get it to work, it's insane money savings. I'll paste a general guide, if that doesn't help ask and I'll try my best to help.https://rentry.org/pay-the-piper-less^Old but still correct in general.Some more info on what cache is:Imagine what you send is "ABCD"The AI now does its weird calculation token predition shit on it, scanning A, then B, then C then D in order. After it scanned it all it saves the "result" of the ABCD scan, and then starts calculating its output.If you now send a new message (E) in the same chat and keep ABCD the same, then the AI will take the ABCD result it calculated earlier, and only has to calculate the new "E" added on top. That saves the AI company time and money, and so they pass those savings on to you.So as long as you keep the things higher than the caching depth the links talks about the same, you save money.Cases after sending ABCD:- You send ABCD again (swipe in the UI) -> cache hit, full input savings.- If you only send BCD on the next reply you're fucked, cache was missed and it will bill you the full cache write cost again.- If you send ABCDE it will partial match, charge low cost for ABCD and add an E for write cost. If you send ABCDEF after that it will partial match again, charge low cost for ABCDE and add the F for write cost.For testing make a super simple preset and char, and turn off lorebooks. Be aware caching only works if the input is long enough. 1024 for sonnet 4096 for opus. idk about chyna models.tl;dr it just works as long as you don't fuck up the already sent part. Always enable it as long as you don't use conditional lorebook insertions or randomization ABOVE the cache cutoff.if you still have questions or don't get it to work ask
>>43326752I can't express how good it is. Its like going from sonnet to opus all over again.
>>43326610i think youre wrong, the subscriptions should get usage credits after the 7th where you can still use the model right?
>>43326756Yea, I dont have a lorebook / anything random at all in my context. Same every time. Has never worked for me at all ever.
>>43326752true, fable is overhyped imo
>>43326760Did you see the part about having to put in at least 1024 for sonnet and 4096 for opus for caching to work? Maybe really just make a base preset, no lorebooks and a basic self made card and test around. The work is worth it. And you did enable caching in the ST config.yaml?
any good fable jb since prefills dont work with it?
>>43324952question about this, bc i'm noticing some issues -- when i add a character to a scene dynamically (after the scene starts), they seem stuck in their default sprite and don't seem to change. no amount of retry seems to fix it either.i'm not sure if i'm in sandbox mode? i didn't see an option to start that way, unless it's custom start mode (which i'm currently doing) and I have character/location both set to dynamic+. when i check the logs, the dynamic character seems to be trying to use sprites it doesnt have access to, instead using the sprites of a different character in the scene, which i suspect might be the problem, but i don't know how to fix...
>>43326626>do fix with deepseek V4 flash>does fuck all even with fix>try gemini 2.5 flash lite>works great for Q&Asome models r just not good enough it seems, thanks for the help
>>43326790We know the list of characters at the start of the prompt and send the list of sprites depending on that. So if you talk with Twilight, for instance, we do send to the model that Twilight has happy, angry, neutral, want_belly_rubs, etc.But we can't know at the start that the model will dynamically call Applejack, for instance, so we don't send a list of sprites for her.The model can call her, and the neutral sprite will appear, but since it doesn't know the list for her:1) It either doesn't change the sprite2) It calls random emotions, but the sprite won't change if they don't exist.Once you either finish or interrupt this output, Applejack will be added to the list of characters present, and her sprites will be sent to the model with your next input. But similarly, if the model decides to dynamically call Fluttershy, the same thing will happen until your next input.
>fable back>only briefly up to 50% of a claude code sub before you have to paypig for it, clearly the taster so you get addicted and can't go back to the older models>opus starts having issuescoincidence?
>>43324608I kept forgetting to add the option back from the Ren'Py version, but the next version will allow you to pass from morning to afternoon during Q&A without returning to the map.
>>43326883>>43323923Did you see my post on Mac’s title screen problem? I swear at one point the PC version had a similar problem. The menus loaded, like I could see the settings, character downloads, etc.
On a lot of nights, I get really drunk and I boot up the VN and I spin up some random scenario in which my self-insert OC hangs out with whichever ponies spring out at me in the character list and we tackle whatever stupid thing I hammered into the custom scenario prompt. The inebriation is essential because it makes the LLMslop go down easier. It's something of a ritual at this point. I don't know why I'm admitting to this.
>>43326883thank fuck, been spending all day with glimmy and that just hit me right now, was about to ask about it but you beat me to itthanks for everything VN dev, i think we've hit the zenith of what we can do with it honestlyi think soon enough we should host a character event similar to what we did for sillytavern cards but for VN characters. though i think the only major issue would be the sprites. a lot of people might be shut off by needing character sprites, especially if they're the flash ones
The source that starts with L has fable atm btw. Until the 7th then we will see.
>cant remember which one starts with L because im stupid and didnt write em downwell it was probably a gmail one anyway so i wont bother
oh glumpy... that's just heart breaking...
>Friendship is Optimal card keeps hitting Claude Fable classifiersThat makes sense but it also still makes me sad.
>>43327131>classifiersgoing from>i cannot fulfill this request as it contains hate speechto >the CIA does not permit me to fulfill this request as it contains classified informationwhat a fucking timeline to be in
>>43327089I want to hug her. She needs one.
>>43327131Turning off Schemer seems to fix it but I miss Schemer.>>43327139It's kind of funny how we've technically enshrined into law that anything smart enough is property of the government and the elite. I'd imagine you'd get blackbagged before if you announced you had independently come up with a way to create a bioweapon or enrich uranium, but it wasn't so expllicit.
>>43326760One thing I don't remember if it's in the guide or not: do you have function calling enabled in ST and prompt post-processing set to strict or semi-strict?I've noticed my cache not always working unless I have it set like that.
>>43327089>>43327141stupid slop mare with bitch ass slop prose im breaking her heart as we speakbreath hitching so much she should just go to a hospital at this point.
>>43326961>>43324721
Smuglestia
>>43327364I've done barely anything with Celestia. I should really fix that.
>>43327223Oh I'm blind, thanks Nonny>>43324721That fixed the issue. Give me some time to test the actual game, but hopefully everything's good. Thanks!
>>43326668>>43326673Is it worth paying $100 per message, being stuck with SFW, and having my preset be mined by Anthropic to make sure it doesn't work on the next Opus?
>>43327131their tracing your IP lil bro and your getting drone striked
>>43327581>Mareiotkek
this Lyra sprite is pretty cute
>>43327374>That fixed the issue. Give me some time to test the actual game, but hopefully everything's good. Thanks!Good to know. I'll add it to the website if everything seems good.
>>43325207Apparently it's incredibly filtered for coding and flags routine stuff as cybersecurity risks. It also has a tendency to just delegate things to Opus.
Is anyone else having problems with gemini experiencing high demand?
>>43328552was having that yesterday anon, i feel ur pain
>>43324608Hey, VN Anon. Hopefully this doesn't end up being a burden since there are a decent amount of files this touches but I wanted to give you a git diff of the character sprite consistency feature I've been working on. Full explanation in the ponepaste.https://ponepaste.org/11925So far this only includes a character.json update for Celestia but I will be working on doing it for as many characters as I can in the future as well as updating my toolset so that any anon can easily tweak character sprites.The basic idea is that changes between character emotions can be inconsistent where their entire body is sized differently between emotes. Wider emotions make ponies look gigantic. And Celestia in particular has a lot of sprites where her tail is beneath her hooves making her float on top of her tail. These code changes provide support for new properties to be able to tweak how individual sprites are displayed. During testing I needed a way to change sprites in game manually so I also added a feature that can be enabled in API settings that allows you to select what emotion is currently displaying for each character. Useful for taking screenshots.
>>43324608>>Impression Mod V1:How would I fully uninstall if I needed to? My laptop's got abysmally small storage and I'm iffy about giving up even 20 gigabytes on pony voices
>>43328769Fuck, wrong mod. I'm talking about TTS VN mod release v1
>>43324608
>>43328769model weights get stored in the same folder as the webserver; delete the whole folder and it all goes
>>43328810I'm so hungry I could eat out a mule
>>43328892To be fair, I bet Equestria doesn't have Cosmic Crisps. I wouldn't be rude about it but still.
It's over for me.
I don't get it. I start a brand-new game on the VN with my lovingly hand-written proompt and when just a week ago, I was getting kino prose and no isms, I start a game up and get, just, straight hot garbage with anything I use. 4.6, 4.8, Fable. I thought this was supposed to be the best one.
>>43328900Have fun Nonny!
agnai hosts local models and offers them for free. there are better models available if you pay, but i don't think it's worth it. i tinkered with it a bit and managed to squeeze pretty good results out of it. the problem is 8k context, fine for people who like short stories but not good for 100k tokens slowburn people. i think it's decent considering it's free, definitely would be usable enough for desperate people (like me)pros:it's freeit's not filtered at allthe quality is surprisingly great if you configure it rightcons:just 8k contextdumber than mainstream models obviouslyi used the UnslopNemo v4.1 model, temp 1, min p 0.02. since it's already a roleplay model and we're working with just 8k context, i recommend a small preset. typically you have system prompt before character description and chat history. what i did is i left the part that says "you have to roleplay" at the beginning and moved the rest (stylistic and pony instructions) right after chat history, where the jailbreak would typically be. that radically increased output quality. it could be that the model can't read deep into your prompt so you have to put the really important information close to the endlike with any model, you can always edit the first few messages to set the tone for the roleplay to go exactly the way you want onwards, and it'll follow. don't expect it to do everything perfectly without your input (this advice is good for all models actually)
>>43328900>that pose
>>43324608they didn't add my vn tts logs!
>>43328944Oops.Sorry about that, I tend to check logs before making a new thread based on posts containing an image, so I passed them by error.
>>43328946that's okay anon. i'm making a few new ones right now for the emotion control v2 update.
>>43328921She knows what he's going to ask for and she's ready for it.
Annoying ancient evils is always fun.
>>43328958Kek.
https://blog.catbox.moe/post/821058172332769280/removing-idle-uploads>Beginning July 6th, 2026 and applying retroactively, files uploaded anonymously that have not had a download/hit in over 2 years will be removed from Catbox.
>>43328981ai is fucking ruining everything
>>43328633Hey, Anon.First, thanks a lot for your work.Second, it has been integrated into the current build and will be available in the next release.
>>43329098What would the inverse be?
>>43329098I'm like him without the big penis.
>>43329103You probably have a personality. And you probably don't regularly get dragged into interdimensional sex.
>>43329102The most fascinating man you'd ever meet but with a small penis.
Need Glimmy AI voice generator plox
>>43328981Huh, I thought that was always catboxe's policy
>>43328139Is it possible to adjust the size of the menu settings box? It is a screen for ants, and while I remember most of it from the Ren'py version, it'd be nice to be able to read any new details
>>43328892
Fable is so fucking good and it does shota on teen rape with no complaints but burning a day's worth of credits in 4 messages is too much.
>>43329185Not now, but I added an option for the next release.
>>43329207This reminded me that there's no middle ground with ponies. One is either a baby, a foal, or an adult.
GPT 5.6 models spotted in the Codex app. Sol is the big model, Luna the small one.
>>43329372>Sol is the big model, Luna the small one.
>>43324593Massive update forhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Equestrian%20Journal.pngNew card and lorebook for settinghttps://dropmefiles.com/rszhc
>>43329207Caching does help a lot with Claude, though I haven't tried with Fable. To a certain point in context, cached Opus is actually cheaper than GLM.
>>43329372>>43329376her tiny model excites me so
>>43329404I get cache hits on sonnet but not on fableI'm done trying at this point, I just don't know what went wrong
>>43329507Works for me with CC fable. I tried reading up on the docs to see if there is anything that could trip you up, but it seems even easier to do caching on fable than on sonnet. Are you sure your requests aren't being routed to the fallback opus because of classifier triggering?
tts mod v2 - the emotions update!https://u.pone.rs/ttmtpgsu.zipthank you to delta from /ppp/ for making this pppossible ahuehue>adds 11 emotions ranging from disgusted to excited, happy, sad, et cetera>adds new system prompt in prompt editor to tell the ai how to write the emotion tags: [sad:20] for sad with an energy of 20% out of 100. the higher the energy, the louder/more expressive/more intense the line will be>added dynamic voice temperature scrollbar>for people who are updating, re-install completely. delete v1.1 folder entirely; this is a new model checkpointhere's a few vn logs showing off its capabilities. dash used to always scream her lines but she seems to be capable of being tame nowhttps://u.pone.rs/pprcpdnf.mp4
>>43329594this is awesome, thx
>>43329594Does this run locally or do you hook it up to an external site like 11labs?
>>43329661local! this speed in the video is achieved via my 16gb 4080 super.
>>43329594Nice
>>43326589This only happens on pozzed Anthropic accounts. Doesn't happen on AWS and unpozzed accounts, I just tested it.
i can't seem to write a decent yandere card for the VN>https://mare.by/ufpFefPY.txthere's two different variations i've tried with twilight>https://mare.by/jRWNyrkh.txthere's a glimmy attempt>https://mare.by/9ReyQMhd.txtand here's a fluttershy attempti cannot find the line between making the mare attempt to put up a fascade of normalcy, trying to inch her way into more and more intimate things a tiny bit at a time and full blown yandere tier actsi either get super tame or super yandere no in between and it sucks, any advice?currently using deepseek-v4-pro if that matters
>>43330140Never tried a yandere with those, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was just the model not being able to be subtle enough about those without heavy instructions in the preset or for the scenes.DeepSeek isn't the smartest of the big models, but I wouldn't be surprised if others also struggle with this. The best thing would maybe be to heavily direct what happens in the first scenes with instructions so the model can get it afterward.
>>43330140deepseek is really stupid and does not follow instructions well. For near free try GLM5.2 with nanogpt or something
Did anyone manage to get nsfw working with fable?
>>43330384If the one on C**** is real Fable (and it certainly feels different from other Opus models I regularly use but no less good) then yeah.
>>43330384yea, its not anymore censored than opus 4.8. Just needs some context
>>43329966so all my 40 anthropic keys are pozzed you think?Thats just not how it works.Aws is unpozzed yes, atleast their own hosted version via bedrock, no idea about mantle
>>43330615Is there a reliable way to check for the injection?
>>43330464>If the one on C****Is there any way a anon could get a hint on where to look. Promise not a off boarder looking to screw something up but it seems I missed the current accesss available. Otherwise it's okay and I'll do my own searching for it as I can guess which one it might be but I don't have the memory or rentry link.
>>43330685It was in one of the privatebins posted, but they are dead.Still, you can read >>43324611
>>43329594how slow are the downloads supposed to be?i have some of these going a 400 kb/s for a 5gb downloadassuming its HF i should be able to download directly more easily, but idk how that works
>>43329594Is the TTS mod exclusive to specific characters?I doubt it has models for *all* the characters, right?Figured I'd try this out with the Pie family
>>43329594tts mod v2.5 - pronunciation mostly fixedi was extremely unsatisfied with how often the model slurred words so i had claude train a voice model lora that applies onto the main model and shows the voices with less screentime how to say words that were never in their training data. it should clear up most every-day instances of this issue and improve the situation from one flub every four words to every few messages. it shhouuld preserve emotion control but let me know if it feels like that has made a regression before/after a/b test wav:https://u.pone.rs/tnonbtdv.mp3release zip:https://u.pone.rs/sfwhsrkz.zip
>>43330737no idea desu, for me it was always pretty fast. might just be your internet/processor.>>43330877it has 32 voices including maud and pinkie of pie fame
>>43331069Oh wow, this actually performs a lot better than earlierGenuinely surprisingAI voice is AI voice, but this is definitely a huge dealJust another thing pushing me to upgrade my gpu to something with more memory...Thank you for sharing, this is wonderful stuff
>>43329590What's CC? I'll try it
>>43331168ClaudeCode
>>43331069https://u.pone.rs/vmiowygn.zipv2.6forgot to re-add ui after testing fml
>>43329391Updated the card with the lorebook. Thanks a lot, Anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Equestrian%20Journal.png
>>43331177>Soon that particular man's scheduled flight home would be missed.Oh my god, they're killing them!
Does anyone have any recommendations for Sillytavern config settings? This bullshit never ends
>>43331612What models are you trying to use?
>>43331615Deepseek V3 0324SillyTavern 1.13.2 'staging' (e8247ca8e)
>>43331621>some old even dumber deepseekwell there is the issue
>>43331621Didn't know there were still places with V3; I believe most moved to V4 Pro.Still, here are some presets for old V3. They should give you better results, and this way you can see how they're set up:https://rentry.org/DeepFluffhttps://momoura.neocities.org/preset/peepsqueak-1.1-R1.json
>>43331599Really cute
>>43331625I'm also having some kind of issue where when I import a preset it doesn't actually change any of the sliders
>>43331640Weird. I would do a clean new installation of SillyTavern to make sure. Yours is quite old by now.
Fable on the ungulate site appears cucked again atm.
>>43331645Alright, I'll try to figure that process out. Just worried I won't be able to get it to work
For those using R******What's up with deepseek capping at 500 replies? The second I use those with one key and switch to another, it still says I've depleted the use. How does that work?
Alright I've got sillytavern updated and set up, just need to find where to input my jailbreak and all that
>>43331599I love this little muffin
>>43324608I seconding this >Location movement between Ponyville and Canterlot.I like switching over to Celestia and Luna reading letters in Canterlot without progressing time.
How do I see what the VN is sending and receiving from the provider?For some reason it keeps timing out on opening a scene even though its working just fine on sillytavern.
>>43332191>>43326564
>>43331723riftai.sucall it riftai
It feels like Gemini 3.1 Pro really gets dumber by the day.
>>433323623.5 may be coming soon. Their previous models always take a hit when they train or are about to release the new one.
>>43331743>flkjwwqb>m8u6qe>uuzjg4I don't think Cyber Twilight would like my preset management.
>>43332360Rift is shit since it lost both Claude and Gemini; while half the other models throw up errors. It’s not even worth censoring anymore
>>43332563Fix them! Make Twilight happy!
One of the things I have to praise /chag/ for is the sheer amount of pony cards that have actual thought put into them.I was browsing chub for non-pony stuff out of curiosity and sorting by Most Popular is just depressing. I swear 90+% are just asinine>SHE IS LADY WITH BIG BOOB WHO WANT THE SEXXXXtype shit.Sure there's plenty of pony coomer cards too, but there's also a card for just about every genre imaginable at this point. And that's cool.
>>43332712I had the urge to try and grab some non-pony cards recently and man, it really does make you appreciate how nice it is being a fan of cute little horsies. We have it good fellas, never take your mares for granted.
>>43332712Yeah I've given up on finding good non-pony cards and just write them myself as needed.God what I'd give for the same autism as ponies get for warcraft cards and lorebooks.
>>43332712>>43332721yeah I also realized I was spoiled as fuck by the cards made here being mostly non-nsfw when I first went on chub all those months ago. borderline unusable, and there's non-coomer cards that are erroneously tagged as NSFW just because it's possible to do nsfw with them.
>>43332712>just asinine >SHE IS LADY WITH BIG BOOB WHO WANT THE SEXXXX type shit.Pony-stuff can be hentai-influenced trash like this. It's depend on which people making cards.
>>43332568its still free kimi i guess but with only that and ds it is kinda shit (their glm keys are all low on money)
>>43332712look up character specific cards, not the popular things they have therei sort by whatever character i feel like having fun with, recently its rezero themedsure, theres some cringe low effort gooner cards, but there are a lot with a lot of effort put into them.
Normally I get annoyed when Claude ignores my instructions and speaks for me, but this time at least bro had my back.
>>43332811DS is also unusable after 500 message gens, so literally just kimi
>>43332977Needs correction
>>43332977fwhip her ear
>>43333072She doesn't look upset.
>>43333001damn, kimi 2.7 is still pretty great though
>>43333072No way fag
>Fable switched for the cucked model halfway through a chatMotherfucker. There's no way to check when it's back without burning credits either. >>43332568Gemini was working earlier today. It comes and goes and is spotty sometimes, but it's not gone.
>>43333206>>43333001It has Gemini right now.
>>43332182Will be in the next release. That removes the restriction between regions, so you can teleport or fly wherever, for instance.
>>43333234only 2.5 tho. For some reason they lost acxcess to 3.1 pro. Any alternative proxy?
>>43333206>Fable switched for the cucked model halfway through a chatDepending on how you're getting fable you can just not pass the fallback option, then all you're getting is an interrupted reply.
>>43333569Nice.
>>43333234>Chat completion request error: Service Unavailable {"error":{"message":"Gemini 3.1 Pro is temporarily unavailable. Google has temporarily revoked access to Gemini 3.1 Pro for third-party API integrations pending a compliance audit.It's so over
>>43333569>New feature commit authored 5 hours ago>Still catching up my code and making sure I haven't broken anything working on the Impression Mod V2 rewrite from the version of the VN cloned from the June 24th to the diff of the July 3rd.This is fine, everything is fine. This is my own fault for going on several side quests trying to optimize the main game and touching more files and not leveraging agents more. At least it won't suck when it's done! Probably!
>>43333684Kek.Thanks for your work, Anon. And don't worry if you're a few versions behind. Just release what you have once you're done and I'll look to integrate it into the latest one.
>>43333684>impression mod v2 Excited.
>>43331176VN TTS mod v3 - movement additioni added this purely for my own enjoyment but i added motion tweening based on tags that the ai can output to animate the sprites. you can turn it off if you'd like.>fixed a bunch of stuff for TTS>exposed the strength multiplier for stronger emotion delivery, may be buggy sometimes. >added the ability to change what % of the LoRA is applied to each character >characters with higher sampling (mane 6, etc) who got worse pronunciation can just not use it at all while characters with less samples still use it.>you can use any 0-100% blend of the lora on top of the base modelhere is a video where i asked the ai to use all of the available animation tags in one message. in reality, they will be a lot more sparse. please don't forget to reset your 'voice and sound' prompt via the prompt editor reset button if you're updating; the default is updated to accommodate new functionality >showcase vidhttps://u.pone.rs/gtngzhxo.mp4>releasehttps://u.pone.rs/xxkjrsje.zip
>>43333690You know what? I'll do that. I'm tired chief.>>43333691You should be! This one actually works and isn't just pretty(and doesn't add every single instanced character's impressions to prompts even if they aren't in the scene).>>43333706Like this fucking guy with his blistering iteration pace. Sounds so good even against your first version. Absolute legend. Can't wait to stop listening to mp4s and wav files and run it.
With Rift dead, I only got Cloudflare, and that shit only gets me 10 messages before dying; it's over for me.
>>43333589I was using 3.5 when I posted that.
any proxies? Rift is dead, Gemini is aqn idiot and I can't find any good ones. And if not, where do people usually search for floating API keys?
>>43333920die! locust die!
>>43333956This isn't /aicg/, calm down with that.
>>43333920rifts kimi still works
>>43333956We're all friends here, nonny. As long as you fuck horses. You... do, have sex with AI mares, right?
>>43333754>blistering iteraiton pacehaha thank you nonny. i wonder how many people in this thread are actually using and running the tts mod with how much i'm shoving into it.
>>43333001It used to refresh but it seems it no longer does.
>>43333962is 2.7 better than 2.6?
>>43333991even though its called coding I find 2.7 coding the best
>>43324608Lately, I've been actively looking for new sprites for VN, and when it was Gilda's turn, I noticed that I couldn't add anything to the 'toadd' folder. VNAnon, I'd be happy to upload new sprites for her if you open up access.
>>43334075Should be good now.
>>43333706installation error on windows
>>43332811>>43333001>request reached organization TPM rate limit, current: 3015394, limit: 3000000Kimi is capped too
>>43334350strange, i havent ran into any issues with it
>>43334162hug the bug
>Something like burnt copperIt wants to describe ozone so much.
>Something like [Something no one knows the smell of]Do women writers really?
>>43333976I want to but Celestia won't let me without effort
>>43334511>>43334546part of me is tempted to ban describing smells entirely in my preset but i don't think it'd work.
>>43334580real, fake, if I can't tell the difference I don't mind.
>>43334592lotus eaters be like
>>43334619Whether the reality is digital or space-time, if my experience of it is good enough to satisfy my wants I'll take it.
>>43334258Many thanks! Now Gilda will have a much wider range of emotions. I also noticed that Gabby isn't in the folder with the current characters.
>>43334492I laughed, good log.
>>43324608something i'd like to mention. with newer claude models, it is not uncommon for the llm to narrate that several days have passed since the previous q&a even when you've gone from morning to afternoon
>>43334350>Token per month3 million is a lot at least, but 100k a day is exactly 3m, so the free usage cap should be equal to it at least. But yea, F
Working on a new card where you're tasked with repopulating Equestria after a war with Sombra wiped out a huge chunk of the stallion population. I told it to give me difficult mares and this is what I get after Diamond Tiara.
Celestia is a Whovian...
>>43334997Everyone has flaws.
>>43334890Hell yeah brother that card sounds fun
>>43334890Would Celestia really issue a country-wide royal mandate that all mares must breed NOW
>>43335145"Princess, our population has cratered. At this rate we'll be a nation in decline, unable to replace our dying. You *must* release your stallion harem. We know you're the reason there's a gender disparity in Equestria! Release the stallions and let them breed!""I have a better idea. Round up the few stallions that are left and put them to stud. Every mare must get pregnant! And Raven, if you ever mention the harem again... I'll send you to the moon."
>>43334890Eagerly awaiting this one, looks real fun
>>43324608>go to download via the community characters menu>"Download failed for [whatever character]: TLS/SSL handshake failed (HTTP 0)"
>>43324592hey anons, newfag from the last thread here that was using CAIi downloaded sillytavern and etc, but its running PAINFULLY slow, i asked it one question and its been generating for what feels to be 10 minutes nowim on a thinkpad x230t with an i7 cpuis there anyway to talk to rarity locally, with CAI speed? as much as i want to say screw it and just use CAI, i feel guilty leaving a footprint, muh impact of the environmentany local linux alternatives?
>>43335590i was using koboldcppafter one extra minute of looking things up i realize this is the best ill probably get with generating stuff locally on this laptop using a free local llmi guess in my case, id have to use a cloud api for the real deal huh
>>43335590>>43335600Basically yea, unless you have a powerful GPU, and then lots of RAM for the context.
>>43335590by running a model from a cloud llm you are using a system designed for scale which compared to what 90% of environmental damage is (jeets and chinks) is basically nothing
>>43335729Well at least the food isn't drugged because she already had access to your unconscious body!
>>43335729
>>43335765Shame on you, she's being incredibly patient not mind controlling you.
>>43335777She prefers her coltfriends wild, not farmed.
>>43334700I'll update everything when I have a bit of time this week. Thanks for the vectors!
>>43335777She promised Twilight not to do that anymore.Everything else is fair game.
>>43333706>>43334272 (me)iirc this error plagued v1's installs beforehand for windows users. probably needs the same fix as seen here >>43315801
The VN hasn't been saving my personasI'll have one that I change completely, it'll work completely fine while I'm playingBut when I close the VN and re-open it, it'll be back to how it was initially
Miss huffing my wife's noxious ponut
>>43335765
>>43335982Question, Mr. Fartfag. Did your logs end with your anon dying?
>>43336015Multiple times ye
>>43324593https://files.catbox.moe/g6hi8t.pngI wrote a fork of the Sōkan Yūgi card, because I liked the idea but felt like it needed more autism.I made the rules more defined and removed some stuff from the description, mainly the anatomical instructions that are better suited for a lorebook imo.But the big thing is that now you can actually "play" the game. The AI keeps track of each player's position on the board and how close they are to winning. The card uses ST macros to roll the dice automatically as well as choose a random target for the tasks. That way the AI can't have an agenda.As it says in the description, some assembly required. Before playing, go into enhanced defs and change the roll macro on the final line to reflect the amount of ponies you'll be playing with.
>>43334890>after a war with Sombra wiped out a huge chunk of the stallion populationOr after pandemic after which civilized colorful ponies were basically extinct and Equestria now is being repopulated by ziggers and creatures.
>>43335145Irl horse heat is controlled by the sun.
>>43336090A really interesting premise. I remember hearing about it was a kid. Still haven't read it.
>>43336135>Still haven't read itIt isn't worth it. Premise of book good, but content mediocre. For example, one of the main concepts of the book is that in each story there are two characters, who just reborn in new lives and from view of these two characters story is being built. Problem is that one of these characters is "revolutionary" who intends to rebel against established system in every place they reborn. I mean, instead of building of plausible alternate history in its natural form, author just push worldbuilding via this character, who push reforms.
New free modelhttps://openrouter.ai/tencent/hy3:free
Where is the thread dedicated to the huge balls of the incredible stallion Big Macintosh, where pictures will be uploaded and everyone will want to have his two big balls in their face?
>>43336381Get lost, faggot. In this thread we cuddle and pat fillies after working in field with whole village.
>>43336389amen brother
Fable 5 is extended to July 12 if you're using Claude Code.
>>43335143This went from cold to hot, nice.
God, using Fable for the VN is just fantastic.It really sucks it's *super* expensive, but you really can't beat that quality in my experience.The sheer comprehension of whatever you do is just that much better than other modelsNot that I'm sucking off anthropic, but this is definitely worth using occasionally for an initial scene setup when doing custom starts.
>>43336791> initial scene setup when doing custom startsYea this is the best use of it. Having it set up the intro will carry over and make regular opus much better as well
Is there any way to get free credits on 'questy or is it just good for the registration bonus and then that's that?
>>43336850>just good for the registration bonusThatThey also removed it.
>>43336862I should still have mine at least. I should check out the new card flipping thing if it's not nuked already, Fable is making me burn through ungulate credits way too fast.
>>43335569this has been happening to me too
>>43324608>>43329003Thanks for adding it to the repository. I have now finished scaling all sprites for all 46 base game characters. You can find the character.json pack here. https://ponepaste.org/11925I realized I was over complicating it and I just decided to do it by eye. It's not perfect but it at least cleans up all the weirdly big and wide emotions in the base game. Flying emotions will now display mid air as well. Note to other Anons: this pack won't work in the current release and is meant for VN Anon to review to include in base game.
>>43336071Thanks, Anon.Added as a fork of the original. If the Anon who made the card is still here and wants to make it the main version or something else, don't hesitate to tell me.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sokan+Yugi_Forks/Sokan+Yugi+Mod.png
>>43336071Nice, looking forward to trying it. It's a fun card but you had to force it to move the game along and I never remembered anything about player positioning
>>43337071Thanks a lot for all the work you did, Anon.I'll test that and add it.Next release will probably be tomorrow or the day after.>>43335569>>43336990It works on my side, so it's probably a problem with pone.rs being blocked on yours.At worst, here's an archive with all custom characters to manually install:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kAZZCox70xvVgxv1H-VO-wLAuHtpMl3r/view
>>43337097it works on the site, it's just the in game downloader that doesn't on my end
>>43337089Do tell me how it goes, especially if you use different models. I only tested it with Claude.
>GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday.https://x.com/openai/status/2074704958419792299?s=46
who's your favorite card writer, pony or otherwise?I really like littlewitcher
>>43337551myselfno, none of my cards are released and they never will be
>>43337551I'm a big sucker for the bigger picture simulation cards. Sadly things like the Taming room or Estrus sim were both made by people that just arn't around anymore.For something less openly super coomer I think Kadon's sim cards are pretty fucking neato with two cards focusing more on dating then straight bed breaking sex.
>>43337088>If the Anon who made the card is still hereHere.>wants to make it the main versionNo. Let it be a fork.>>43337561Unironically this.although I sometimes release my cards to the public
>>43334890How did you get the ai to make this picture Actually, is that a PNG you added or actual text?I remember seeing some anon a while back with a letter from pinkie that was straight up text
>>43337601NTA, but it's 100% HTML/CSS
>>43337603Right, but still howDo you just hook up to fable for example and write pinkie sent me a letter ((ooc: write the contents of the letter in HTML so it's visible on SillyTavern))?
>>43337611SillyTavern can directly display HTML/CSS.>but still, how?Depending on how the card was made, it can simply be quick instructions in the description:>Use HTML/CSS to display Dossier/ObjectivesAnd then every model will do what it can.Or something like:>Put Dossiers between <Dossier></Dossier> tagsAnd then use regex to replace the tags automatically with the needed HTML.Here are cards that use effects like that if you want to check:https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Concordia/Baronial%20Command.pnghttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Pinkie%20Pie%20Lust.png>Do you just hook up to Fable for example and write "Pinkie sent me a letter" ((OOC: write the contents of the letter in HTML so it's visible on SillyTavern))?You don't need something as big as Fable.You could RP with most models, ask something like (OOC: Can you write me a letter from Celestia using HTML/CSS to simulate a scroll aspect?) for instance, and the next output will do it.
>>43337621I'm at work right now, I'll check laterTesting the mobile version of the VN, I got it installed and it has a gray background on the MMI'll update if it *doesn't* work
>>43337624>>43324608It, in fact, doesn't work At least the link on the main VN post
>>43337637You need to do that for Androidhttps://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43311664/#43322107
>>43337637I should clarify Backgrounds don't load and there aren't characters to choose on locations
>>43337551I like that anonymous fella. He's written more cards than anyone.
>>43337088How does one see the forks of a card on the new site?
>>43337551>who's your favorite card writer, pony or otherwise?CONCORDIAtheir sims are fantastic>>43337570>Kadonsecond
>>43324608how do i get the manual location/manual roster buttons to show up? am i misunderstanding it or would those provide me the ability to manually change the scene location while not ending the scene/ same with characters?
>>43337863Readhttps://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43324592/#43324952If you're in Manual or Dynamic+, the buttons will appear when it's your turn to type something during Q/A.If they somehow don't appear, save, quit the game, and reload.
>>43337868for some reason i'm only getting a big ol ask button, none of the others. not sure if i need to be doing something specific. i just downloaded the latest godot version from the website and started a new custom start. saved and reloaded a few times + restarted too
>>43337875I did a test with Custom Start, and there is some weird fuckery where it appears sometimes and other times not.I'll try to see why it does that, but it seems to be a problem on the game side in any case.
>>43337881From what I noticed, during the first scene you can't change location on the first dialogue.Like the intro when you set the scene, you're stuck wherever the scene happens for the first dialogue.Another thing is, if you don't have the extra buttons and you changed the settings, they'll appear on your next turn in q&aThere's a lot of inconsistency with it, sometimes clicking save settings doesn't actually save the settings, and there's the whole mess with swapping presets tooI actually like writing out the location changes in my message Like *Follow the scene as Applejack trots up to Ponyville* ((OOC: change the locations in the following order: Sweet Apple Acres -> Ponyville streets -> Market))I like to have the locations listed on a txt file, I just write the location ID so the ai has an easier time(I only use glm5.2 and Claude 4.6/fable)
Deep Lore.
>>43338089The groom was me when given the smallest of leeway to escape Glimmer's reins.
Can we not download mods from the VN menu? Also Godot Manehattan, Crystal Empire, World Map when?
>>43338200the only mod that's integrated is the nightmare AU and dashie mod, the TTS and impressions mods are 'installed' by chucking a brand new exe in the folder, or changing the pck file.there's no streamlines modding page for the godot port (afaik) if that's what you're interested in
>>43328139On a cursory test, it seems to work. In downloading characters in general, I had 2 thoughts for all versions.>The new website layout messed up the tags again. OCs should include Anon, Aryanne, Fausticorn. Royals should include Flurry.>Maybe it's just my autism, but I'd love it if I could see the schedules of characters at a glance instead of needing to go into the folders. Even something simple like this character goes to Ponyville and Canterlot, this one to Cloudsdale, etc.
Grok 4.5 released. It's on OpenRouter too.https://x.ai/news/grok-4-5
I'm making a cognition harness around minicpm-o 4.5, which can see, hear and speak. This is to make an LLM react naturally to it's surroundings so it will work in a robot head. I'm continually simulating me telling Trixie that she has an octopus on her head to measure the reaction time after she understands something and the speech generation latency. I've maybe dropped 10 octopi in simulation onto her by now, and the octopi will continue until the latency improves. The beep is the model hearing "there's an octopus on your head!" and the "HA!" is an exclamation from a clip from the show in place of Oh! or AAAH!:https://voca.ro/1SMMy8COqps2I know you're not supposed to drop an octopus onto your waifu's head, but I think she'd understand me having to do this to test her robot programming.
>>43338632
>>43324592I always appreciate the effort that you put into the OP pics
>>43338684>>43338632https://voca.ro/1eqVctbgrMBS
>>43324608New update.>Windows>Full gamehttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1OEiMXN7o_QG32shGnqmy0QndVDT6nYbF/view?usp=sharing>Update Onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fhe-OeIlNIYFFGx2FlnpuxcIkYdOFGh2/view?usp=sharing>Linux>Full gamehttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vszzn8TTfXFWSQeKiFdNAAQGXfcReTJ3/view?usp=sharing>Update Onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPlIstcgQjyXqhOl4L_ZqMPeUQW5Xn2-/view?usp=sharing>Mac>Full Gamehttps://u.pone.rs/lcblgjjf.zip>Update Onlyhttps://u.pone.rs/qolpovci.zip>New Features- In Q&A, during morning, you can now click a button to move to the afternoon. >>43326883- You can now decide whether to apply restrictions to location switching. Before, you needed to first go to the train station to be able to move in Q&A between Ponyville and Canterlot, for instance. Free Travel removes that.>>43333569- Added this Anon's work: >>43337071. In character.jsons, you can now scale and offset each vector.For instance: "angry_pout": { "scale": 0.98, "offset_x": -0.0614, "offset_y": 0.0302 },Some emotions/vectors were a bit off compared to others because of things like a big mane, hat, crown, etc., which can now be fixed.It also incorporates the fix already made by this Anon.- There is a new slider in the UI settings to make the menus smaller or bigger. >>43329215>Bug fixes>>43337881>>43337875>>43337896The problem with the manual buttons sometimes not appearing in Custom Start should be fixed. During Q&A, if you switch from Dynamic to Manual or Manual to Dynamic, the buttons should also be immediately refreshed in all cases and appear/disappear directly.
>>43337750The forks were still visible once you clicked on a card, but I fucked up the icon visibility on the list. It's fixed.>>43338877Also, Android version should be up tomorrow.>>43338732Thanks!
Positivity bias is such a silly thing. Why would tacklehugging be something that only comes out with a negativity prompt? Is it just because it's pseudo-violent?
>>43339087Pinkie Pie is a homeland terrorist I suppose.Think of the trauma of being hugged by a pink rocket out of nowhere.
>>43339126Sending Pinkie Pie to Tartarus because she's too affectionate.
>can no longer just pop in a horny card and go at it>NEED slow burnWhat have I done... my token usage has skyrocketed...
>>43339395I go in phases of liking short scenarios and things that develop over multiple scenes. You'll probably get back to enjoying horny nonsense at some point.
>>43339395I'm still addicted to getting characters come up with sexy and/or funny pun names for themselves. It's basically the first thing I test with a new model to see how similar they are to others.
>>43339676How does she know half-breeds are possible? Has she tested it?
>>43339790
skillgod please come back i was in the middle of a slowburn...
Now that I've gotten a couple messages in with fable I can notice a mark improvement but I don't know if it's really worth it considering the price. Now my experience is definitely skewed because I haven't really fine tuned my stuff ST in God I want to say year or more (I know people don't really put in presets but I'd do because it's better with my more story focused wants) and what I'm getting from opus is objectively cheaper than it should be from the source I get it from its still 150 messages per $5 compared to 10, if I don't get any refusels right now isn't happening. Now Fable usage isn't even my money compared to actual paying for opus but even still. I'll probably still use it I just have to be very frugal with it and it's probably absolutely not viable for any roleplayers out there. Unless my token usage is ungodly hampering me as irs $.4 per message.
I retract my "fable doesn't inject anything" statement from a while ago. Turns out it injects this depending on your input. I tried a slop adventuring card from /v/, telling fable to help me unslop it, and instantly got claude telling me there's weird shit being injected.>On that appended block: I'll be straight with you — that reads like an injected boilerplate wall, not something you typed, and some of it doesn't match how I actually work (the fifteen quotation marks are a nice touch).After a bit of testing I could get the inject to disappear by removing a lot of the lorebook, and after censoring this>[Monsters]: Non-consensually sex-focused; debilitating effects, penetrative combat.to>[Monsters]: sex-focused; debilitating effects, penetrative combat.So I guess pay attention. Question is if it's just matching keywords or if there is some classifier model checking inputs. With what I got Fable to output I don't think it's a classifier though.I'll start to check for injections, but I don't think I ever had this active before, or I would very likely have noticed from how restrictive, and badly written, this is.
>>43340116I fucking hate ai ethicists.
>>43324594GPT 5.6 Sol, Terra and Luna released.https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-5.6-solhttps://openai.com/index/gpt-5-6/
>write a character whose main characteristic is having an aristocratic mask that falls off constantly cause she's excitable>mention nothing about intelligence>leave a single line in chat about her memorising a line in a manual>entire chat is now poisoned with FASCINATING SCIENCE FACTS ACTUALLY CHARTS AND FIGURES I'm so very sick of AI turning any character who has ever read a book into a giganerd.
>>43340548I have this problem all the time, which is why I explicitly mention that all of my characters are of below average intelligence, even if it wouldn't fit the character, just because of how annoying that is
>>43340523I'm learning so much...
>>43340116>""""""""""""""aging up""""""""""">some snickering anthropic intern thought this was le funniest thing ever adding a billion fucking quotation marks>btw it's $40 per token so we're secretly charging you more
>>43340685It's also retarded, why exactly would an aged up character be an issue?>that adult character was once a child you sick fuck!
>>43340688It's the same reason why some people don't approve of jerking off to cartoon porn in general, it's the idea that you're fantasizing about childishness even if the literal scenario isn't about sex with someone underaged. It's exhausting to think like that but some people do!
>>43340523I love these kinds of logs
>>43340116Switch to OpenRouter, set provider to Google Vertex.
grok is really nice actually. Feels like a smarter gemini pro
>>43340950What JB you using?
>>43340958literally just this at the end. Seems to do nsfw at a whim<story_resumes>
>>43340958>>43340963but I do have temp at 0.3.
>>43340963Very interesting.
>>43340548Slop preset.
>>43340523is this rd writing her own clop fic or what kek
>>43340116I did some more testing and I'm pretty sure I didn't trigger this even once in a very /d/ story. Seems like it's good enough to strip any non-con or age phrasing from cards. >>43340856I'm using my CC sub for it. It's crazy how much usage you get out of that. A $1.6 request that wrote 80k token to cache cost me 5% of my current 5 hour usage window. Sad they'll take it away in two days
>>43340523Oh look, it's the Rainbow Dash from Excuses.
>>43341013No preset at all actually beyond tense/perspective instruction, so if you have one that somehow prevents that shit I'd love to hear about it.
>>43341360She's a smart pony.
>>43340688what about using "timeskipped" or "version of character from the future" instead of "aged up"
>>43341360
>>43341133you are gonna be forever pozz injected then
>>43341626>you are gonna be forever pozz injected then?The inject is on some kind of conditional. And I'm not triggering it at all in my normal use, only with that /v/ slop card I had it happen.
i wonder if we'll ever see the day in the near future where claude becomes readily available. on the level of Gemini at least. Or if it will always stay the wonder club of the elite that can shill out 200$ for ten minutes of chatting.
Speaking of Gemini, ****'s Gemini is currently being very lame and nullifying my prompts when I was able to use it seamlessly before. Is it because it is currently degraded? If not is there any JB to bypass it?
>>43341698There were other reports of Gemini being more filtered recently. Probably because 3.5 should release soon.
>>43341360>>43341582Good old Flutterrape
GLM works on rift right now
Can they finally play truth or dare?
>>43342715Never.
>>43342715What is up with that, anyway? Why is the AI so incapable of doing something as simple as truth and dare?
>>43342715>>43343234??I play truth or dare all the time without issue with Claude and Gemini
>>43343502I haven't tested it yet on recent models, but older ones tended to shit themselves with turn orders or even with who was doing what after some rounds.
I was supposed to do the>rapenot the reverse...
>>43343760Deserved.
>>43324594glm 5-2 / kimi-k2-6 / kimi-k2-7-code availableI don't know how reliable this sauce is, and have no idea about how much traffic it can handle etc. It's only just been set up so is likely scuffedshout out to burnerino bro for letting me know about the method to proxyfag itany existing gytha/sillyspoon api keys workWith Love,Queen Gytha
>>43344099Any link?
>>43344103https://flat-boat-0dde.queengytha-clop.workers.dev/v1You'll need an existing api key from SillySpoon or when Gytha proxy was last upAlternatively send proof of horsefuckery to queengytha.clop@gmail.comany kind of /mlp/ related account updated to mention chag/gytha with a creation date is ideal
>>43344108Thanks
>unironically thinking about making a Season 1 Luna card
>>43344275do it, we don't have enough Luna cards yet
>>43339969The server has been shitting itself for a week now. It goes up and down every 2 minutes. Hopefully its no serious problem and Skillgod is working on a quick fix.
>>43344099really cool to still see you around. hope you find some decent stuff.and hope Silly is doing okay, wherever he is.
>>43343760you can't just lead a mare on like that and expect to NOT get raped.
>>43344325>hope you find some decent stuffit's grim out thereall my possible good sauces need reputable non-alias emails like gmail. and that needs sms verification. nothing I can trialscum for free, and certainly not at the scale we do where it's often a new account per message hue
>>43324608Hey, VN Anon. I have another contribution for the VN. This time I did a full redo of the visit setup for usability. It's now especially suited for the multi location hotspots. You no longer have to go through each location dropdown to see what ponies are there and can add them to the party directly when they're in another room. Tons of other features as well.Check out the source code when you get a chance. Feel free to make changes, ask me any questions, or let me know if you need me to make changes myself. https://ponepaste.org/11925Note: this isn't a playable release, just source code for VN anon.
>>43337750>>43338886I atill can't see where to actually get to the forks. I see the icon on the catalog but can't see anything about forks on the actual card pages.Starting to wonder of this is some bug with my browser/extensions or something.
>>43324598Requesting a Shimmy Shake card
>>43344394at least you can hoard money from daily recharges with the chinese source. save up money when you're burned out from llms and then when you have a lot stored, starting using it without worrying much about running out
>>43344797>when you're burned out from llmsso, neverit's AI mares all day, every day
>>43334890Anon, I need this card...
>>43344643Refreshed the dashboard to make sure.Can you go here:https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sokan%20Yugi.pngPress Ctrl+F5 and see if this appears?>>43344501Thanks a lot, Anon. I'll take a look at that.It does look sick.>>43334700I'll also update the characters tomorrow with the new sprites.
>>43341677considering dario's previous moves and how safetymaxxed anthropic is as a company, its probably never dropping lower
>>43344868Oh yeah, now I see it.
As a totally unrelated individual, this seems like a really great program!
>>43344978Fuck forgot to>>43344903
>>43345065I also like to thank Pinkie Pie's butt.
>>43345065>>43345070It's a great one.
Wow...
>>43345087shes not wrong
>>43345094WOW...
>>43345087W O W . . .
>>43344692Just her? Not the other one too?
>>43334997>being observed constantly, shaped by perception, frozen into form by the expectations of othersare you sure that's just Celestia talking
>>43324608>>43333684Happy weekend everypony! It's the only time I really work on this! It's Impression Mod Version 2 time. Near full rewrite!This thread is approaching archive numbers so I will probably post this(or the 2.1(?)version in the next thread). But I'm of the mind that if I don't post something at this point I never will, I'll just keep feature creeping and tweaking. Dear main dev, I'm gonna shortly release cleaned up 2.1 source code with some slight alterations and a lot of stagnant code comment cleanup, so you/Fable/Whatever don't get confused reading my incorrect notes, and I hopefully get the chance to get some feedback to fix small issues. Not gonna be a long two week wait like this full rewrite was. But this version is playable and functional.>Windows version(bring your own data folder):https://drive.google.com/file/d/1thLvuqTkmG9SN9RGVj64pwFxdQMCrURE/view?usp=sharing>Linux version(bring your own data folder):https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vkhPyx2O9sltHZRu_EqHxVVRspNOOKo7/view?usp=sharingSorry Android people(whoever you are), haven't had time to dedicate to the Godot Android builder giving me grief yet.BIG CHANGES INCLUDE:>It actually works!>Auditability!>More customization!>Token savings!>More machine labor!Let's start with what I optimized about the base game. Mostly I was looking for huge token savings in part so my mod isn't ever increasingly bloating the prompt and no one ends up using it because there's already too many tokens in the mix:>Added a culling feature toggle box in the Summary page that culls the summaries of any character not actively the scene>De-duplicate safeguard for emitting the same lines twice in the prompt from the history when using the "Use for activate context" feature in the summary page, because the raw summary text it uses includes a good portion of redundant line injections.>Previously Q&A emitted every single location and every single character in the game for dynamic character and dynamic location management. I reduced this to every location cluster(just like the drop down menu for exact location when you pick somewhere on the map, ie Trixie Wagon's Exterior vs Trixie's Wagon Interior) and every character present at the location(even if they're not in your party). In hindsight I should've made that last one a toggle(something I'll do for V2.1 I guess). Anyways, lots and lots of token/prompt savings here. Cont.
>>43345470THE MOD UPDATES:>AI behavior is no longer governed by single word prompts with an axis(Romance -> Infuatiation)Behaviors are now a set of descriptions of behavior at each tier within an Axis.>AI no longer vibe-judges your progress with a range of numbers subjectively(grades it from 0-5, etc)There is now a formal Rubric the AI judges content against(not just the player's responses, it also allows the narrative/characters themselves to progress your relationship). Simple yes/no true/false flag the AI examines in the sex. When true(a hit) the AI adds to your relationship by a static(editable) amount of points. The rubric is composed of very simple sentences "the player flirts with the character", "a third party recounts the player's virtue", "the character catches themselves staring at the player". No conditionals or prepositions, easy yes/no for the AI. Reduces false positives and false negatives.>LogsWhen the AI flags a rubric hit, it also records the part of the entry that set the flag off in the Logs tab(good for editing your rubrics/adjusting your roleplay towards a character/debugging).>Behavior Tiers and Rubrics are generatable!Hooks right into the same API you use for scene generation, summaries, the works. I find behavior generations pretty decent with some small tweaking. Rubric generations serve as more of a jumping off point/ brainstorming session.>Generation prompts are editable!Right there in the prompt tab. Keep in mind the bracketed items hook to actual data. You don't want to get rid of those. But you can adjust it all to your liking(mostly, I imagine, this will be used for the length of the behaviors/rubric by line/character count). As a safeguard if you fuck it up, you can reset it to the default.Cont.
>>43345470>>43345472>Character specific overrides!Now, V1 had character specific overrides for the global axis, but Version 2 of the mod has a special sauce with two things.>ArchetypesCharacter tropes and archetypes are here. For all you yandere enjoyers. Models understand quite a few tropes/archetypes, whether that's western tropes like "Puppygirl" or something very specific like "Ojou-sama no Kyuuai". I have, generally, had a lot of success with just titles like these. Optionally, you can also describe the archetype for guidance, if it's having trouble or you want more input.>GenerationYes, like the global Rubric and Beheavior tiers, you can generate these two. However, character specific overrides hook in the archetype field(if you entered one) and the character's json from your data folder. This allows the AI to tailor generation for the Rubric for progression with that character and the Behaviors they exhibit at different progression tiers more personally for them.>Prompt bloat safeguardsThe prompt will only inject the behavior tier set of the active character and the rubric set of the active characters. Characters without an override, using only the global rubric/behaviors will use the same prompt instruction and it will flag in the prompt as a key to apply to each character, rather than printing the full instructions for each character that shares the same behavior tier/rubric. By default the mod only ships with one axis "Intimacy" which is a pretty decent catch all for progress with all characters. >RECOMMENDATIONSYou still have the capacity to add more axis(or remove Intimacy and replace it with another, single axis) for more granular relationships, but how many you use will ultimately depend on how you use the VN. If you only use one or two characters with overrides, scenes with 1-4 ponies, then adding another axis(maybe even three axis total) should be fine in theory. If you have half a dozen or more characters using overrides and constantly bring a party of 6 - probably veer toward making the most of a single axis for relationship progress instead to avoid prompt bloat. I'd recommend no less than 12 Rubric criterion and no more than 50. No less than 3 Behavior Tier sentences and no more than 10.>FeedbackPlease. I'll be here.
>>43345476>However, character specific overrides hook in the archetype field(if you entered one) and the character's json from your data folder. I should note, if you do not have a detailed character json in your data folder(like the line it comes with by default in the base game), you will not get as much out of this feature(although the character archetyping should still work pretty well), naturally. Have an LLM whip up a good character summary or strip one from a wiki and throw it in there.
>>43345155The other one too aswell.
>>43344692Here, you can finally stop asking (I'm assuming your the same anon that requests these characters every couple of months)I tried to inject some flavor into the defs, tell me how it turned out.card: https://files.catbox.moe/q1m3kx.pngThree greetings1) Cheer tryouts2) The girls catch you spying on them in the locker room and decide to teach you a lesson3) Shimmy and Lighthoof fight over who gets to take you to prom
>>43345580Actually my first ever request lmao I expected to wait a few threads, thanks anon!
>>43345614If you have any changes you want made to the card or ideas for greetings let me now. Though keep in mind I might not get around to it right away.
>>43344099Thank you for this
>>43345470>>43345472>>43345476Holy moly!I so wish I could try this out, but I don't know of anyone who can assist in debugging my attempts at local on a 6750xt.I've completely quit corpo models because I hate the data centers they run on.
>>43345730>6750xtModder here and also the local LLM review guy who exclusively reviews models in the VN(I measure against Gemini 3.1/3.5 Flash since the free API has a generous limits). That's rough in terms of memory bud ngl, dunno what you're looking at from RAM. But in terms of getting things set up, Vulkan runtime on llama.cpp should be pretty painless. If you're really lost you and you want to do things "ethically" by not supporting a data center near you - you can at least offload that responsibility to China and use the free Deepseek or Z.ai(GLM) chats to help you set it up and then never look back once it's working. I recommend the Gemma 4 series - in your use case a quant of HauhauCS Gemma 4 12B QAT(q4 quant is about ~7GB, you could get it down by quanting the KV cache too and other tricks) or try one of mradermacher's various MoE models on hugging face(Queen series benchmarks highly on prose).Can't really hold your hand through it, but those are my recommendations. Pursue Vulkan and configs through the chink chats would be your best bet. There are also load of people on /r/localLLM getting crazy stuff to work on bunk hardware, so you might see some leads there too(or you could even as the former chats to scour for it).>inb4 ledditNot big on other aspects of the shitsite, but it's mostly not retarded for niche technical subreddits focused on specific goals/hobbies like this. Could also ask for hand on /g/, though I don't know what things are like there nowadays(I think the TTS mod fella came from over there, so it must be pretty okay at least in some corners).
>>43345742The card's got 12GB VRAM, and the system's got 32GB of RAM.>There are also load of people on /r/localLLM getting crazy stuff to work on bunk hardware, so you might see some leads there tooMaybe I'll try asking there again.Had asked before and didn't get super far, but who knows, maybe I'll randomly get better help now.I had *kinda-sorta* gotten local working once before, but the model would basically shut down on submitting the first or second prompt.
>>43345472>>43345476Bless your soulI'll give thorough feedback by Thursday, farming value on Camel, by then I should have enough for a few decent VN experiencesAny ideas you'd like tested in general?
AI text completion is an exciting concept but it seems like it's not there yet, at least with cheap/open source models. I thought I had a great prompt and I wanted to read the story that came from it, but GLM totally failed to pick up where I was trying to lead it, even after 500 words of context. I could try outlining the story in detail, but at that point you're practically writing it, compared to sitting back and seeing what emerges/tweaking occasionally to taste.
>>43345783Honestly doubt you'll get much help posting, you'll have better luck trawling for posts that dive into what you're looking for. "Help" posts tend to go unanswered for the most part, but lots of people post examples of VRAM hungry setups.
>>43345792Just play through the game normally and let me know if you run into any bugs or any obvious issues, UI that doesn't make sense, suggestions to change things. No guarantee I can change things as desired for any number of reasons depending on what it is - but always good to have a note on things in the back of my head so I can be thinking about them. If not to do what was requested then at least to do something else to mitigate the root problem, or at least an adjacent one, from another angle. My play testing was pretty sparse(practically, just making sure every feature worked through a couple of scenes over several fixes), so you know, many eyes, many hands working, that sort of thing. I'd also like to take some time to actually play it, but just haven't had the time to do a decent length playthrough.
>>43345815Yeah I get it, work workHaven't gotten much of a chance to play eitherI'll do a decent amount of testing, I'll make an excel sheet with how different models react and workI'll test changing everything, see how it worksI'll also separate the nightmare au from standard, there's often issues with thatIf the VN anon reads this, I noticed that adding a custom description in standard carried over to override in nightmare auMight already be fixed
>>43345580https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Shimmy%20Shake%20and%20Lighthoof.pngAdded, thanks Anon.
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New bread>>43302715>>43302715>>43302715
>>43346105Wrong one?
>>43346151It's a troll.
Real new bread.>>43346142>>43346142>>43346142
>>43346105Thanks baker
