Preorders open from NOW until August 31st!>https://order.mppp.horse/>https://order.mppp.horse/>https://order.mppp.horse/$20.50 for the first plushie, +$12 for each additional filly>What is this?/mppp/ is the mass produced pony plushie project. ITT we discuss mass-producing inexpensive pony plushies so every autist can have a cheap cuddlable plushie of their very own.>The current situationSmall Horse Imports LLC has been registered in the USA to handle the bureaucratic, banking, and tax portions of this project. This is the company your invoices will come from.Preorders have opened! The current wave has surpassed 883 preorders, more than any other /mppp/ run EVER.Originally priced at $19.50 +$11 for each additional. But in order to comply with CPSC guidelines, plushies need to undergo certification, which will bump the price up by roughly $1 per unit.>How much?Estimated price of one plushie: $20.50Estimated cost of each additional plushie per order: $12All prices are estimates and may vary by 10% (or more if you live in a really hard to deliver to country) up or down depending on shipping to your country, fees, and if we produce over 1000 plushies or not.If you want to buy 20 or more you'll receive an invoice for the cost of manufacture of the plushies, then a second invoice for shipping. Cost of manufacture is $8.46 per unit if we order 500-1000 unit, it becomes $8.26 per unit if we order 1000+>What still needs to be done?Place the bulk order with Symbiote.Send out invoices.Ship the fillies.Want to help? Spread the word to other anons, or order some little green faggots for yourself and others.Questions? Put 'em in the thread.Previous thread: >>43268860
>>43343836don't give me hope, anon...
>>43343836>>43344267If they quoted $200 for a single plush, surely even a small run would be cheaper. Even ordering 10 or 20 is usually significantly cheaper than a single one-off. (Assuming they actually have mass fabrication capability and don't just hand-sew 10 plushies the same way they would do 1.)It'd definitely be more expensive with mane and tail, and especially embroidery if they can even do it. But it sounds realistic that if that anon works everything out and the pattern is good and works and all that, you could get lifesizes easily below $500, if not around $200-300 or so.Given this I think multiple LS runs for various ponies is unironically realistic. I bet there's more than 10 anons who'd want an LS of Luna for $300, or of Anonfilly or every M6 for that matter.The other thing is copyright which has so far been an issue for every /mppp/ run and is the reason only OCs have been done. Sounds like the LS anon wants to do ponk so maybe the shop explicitly doesn't care about copyright, that'd be really based.
What do we do if PayPal restricted our accounts? There's been a wave of bans going out lately. I was just banned a few days ago, and I personally know at least two people who've also been hit recently.Would the best solution just be to get with someone whose PayPal is still working, or is something like Zelle an option?
>>43344648The fuck is paypal doing now?
Thanks baker.>>43344510>sell "parts" of a plush (unstuffed skin, user installed mane, user installed zipper?)>don't infringe on character names (similar to adult companies)Should be fine. I don't think you can copyright strike someone for having pink hair and pink cloth in a box that doesn't explicitly state WE ARE INFRINGING! Might be a good idea to not indicate a completed product is being sold at any point. It keeps the project firmly in etsy/home project territory and not selling a product.
>>43344648I signed up for one recently and they restricted mine. You should get an email saying if you want to fix it upload your government ID.
>>43344886It's against their ToS to pay for adult goods or services using PayPal, and I suspect they might've recently implemented an AI to audit accounts for that or something. But I can only guess. PayPal is cagey about the reasons behind these things, and they refuse to tell you exactly why your account was closed, as a matter of policy.
>>43344920With yours, they're just putting a hold on it until they can verify your identity for fraud purposes. That's not what this is about.
>>43344922but i always use paypal at bad dragon
>>43344949ToS is selectively enforced based on how much money someone makes, and how much attention a middle mangement jeet hears about dragon dildos.
>>43344922>and I suspect they might've recently implemented an AI to audit accountsThis wouldn't surprise me in the goddamn least if this happened. Fucking kikes.
>>43344263Shouldn't CPSC guidelines only apply to US imports? How come the testing fee is tacked onto all Anonfillies?
>>43270842Seeing the new Batsy video makes me desperately want a Terri Softmare plush
>>43345516God, if only.
>>43345423Symbiote is a US company and trying to handle US and non-US orders differently would likely make things more complicated than just doing all the same way.
>>43345423They're not testing fillies at import. Symbiote has to pay $700 to the jews and pass a test. That adds to the overall cost of manufacturing which results in a higher price.
>>43344648Do you even need an account for anything? I've always just paid using Paypal the same way you would use Stripe, just put in my card details and pay, without logging in or whatever.
>>43344510LUNA LS MENTIONED BY THE BAKER HOLY SHIT!
>>43346245There is a nonzero possibility. I'll keep you posted. They may charge more based on complexity.
>>43344510>I bet there's more than 10 anons who'd want an LS of Luna for $300Oh, anon, you have no idea...
>>43346245What no I'm not a baker of anything
>>43344510 >I bet there's more than 10 anons who'd want an LS of Luna for $300It's me. I am those 10 anons
>>43345919I imagine bans would fall under the "purchase history" here
>>43346434Interesting. I had no idea it was controlled on the paypal side, I thought sellers could choose between allowing guests or notWorst come to worst it's probably possible to set up Stripe. AFAIK it takes some paperwork or whatever but it's entirely possible for an individual to do it, so it'd be annoying but very much within the realm of possibility if push comes to shove.
Update. The company does indeed do embroidery. I've been quoted $240 per unit, unstuffed, with shipping and embroidery costs included. Prototyping will run $150, so I'm looking at an initial production cost of $390. Assuming the body works out, that wouldn't need to be prototyped again. They will be providing me with the pattern after the prototyping is complete, which means I'll be able to distribute the adjusted pattern if any adjustments are done. Looking at a 3 month production time right now because they've never done this before and they're booked a month out, but after the initial one is complete they'll have a significantly reduced production timeline.Material would be minky for the body and either 3" pile faux fur or minky for the mane/tail. They didn't say there would be any difference in pricing for materials or for colors (that means you, Dashfags), though I would factor in maybe $50 just for differences in labor and material just in case. The pattern includes a pocket, so I'll talk to them about putting in a zipper internally as well as under the tail for stuffing.They take PayPal, crypto, and bank transfers. Considered facilitating orders for anons in the future, but probably will only do that if it's requested.If anyone has embroidery files or mane and tail patterns for any pony, whether or not they're the correct scale, I would be grateful if you could email them to me at srganon@protonmail.com.I'll probably be moving forward with this in the next month or so. I have a lot going on.Any questions, ideas, or considerations?
>>43346862BASED BASED BASED god tier anon.I was thinking about accessories, but tey can always be made later. Minky lower bits, crotchboobs, socks. Probably socks will be the only ones made due to the simplicity and lack of pattern for the top 2, though I'd really like the top 2 as add ons somehow.I'll let anons send embroidery files if they have them. If you dont get any shout out and ill make some. I'll definitely buy one at that price point.
>cadence lifesize sold for $5000Extremely high quality, but still smoking crack if Chinese can do it for under 10%.>>43345189
>>43346862You're a saint. From all the poorfags out there, thank you.Can't wait to see the prototype. Are you still doing Luna for the first run?
>>43346407m m a r e e glimmy
>>43347403>inb4 LS glimmy first
>>43346862>The pattern includes a pocket
>>43346245WIFE??? I CAN FINALLY SEE AND HUG AND CUDDLE AND KISS AND LOVE AND PET MY WIFE??? I AM ONBOARD FOR SURE
>>43347393You misunderstand, anon. Pinka is my wife. I never mentioned Luna.>>43346940Maybe after the first one is done I'll reach out about clothes and stuff.
>>43347565>that means you, DashfagsI'll pay you extra to do 5 Dashies for myself & 4 other anons.
>>43347570Now THAT is something Dashie would approve of!
>>43346862God speed Anon, I'll be looking forward to your progress. Few questions: Which company? Is there a minimum order amount we have to fulfill? After doing Ponka, which pony is next? or will there be a vote?
>>433475704 other anons, as in your personal friends, or 4 other anons as in random Dashfags?
>>43347637The latter. Anons in this thread.
>>43347646Celestia bless your generosity, anon.It'll be interesting to see how the Ponk turns out. A company making affordable lifesizes that also look good would be a dream come true.
>>43344267see? see why I say this? sure, give me hope, then tell me I have to wait for the ponkfags and the dashfags to get theirs first. why not.and sure. I'm happy they get to see their wives in proper lifesize. but don't make me think we're doing luna first.... it's just cruel...
>>43347705the plight of the moonfagat least licensed lunas existand symbiote makes lunas
>>43347730Yeah, but they make dash and pinkie too. They even made laying dashies and pinkies. You used to be able to get 90cm dashies on aliex and you still can get 90cm pinkies, for cheap. But luna? Biggest you'll find is a BaB. Nobody gives a fuck about Luna. Nobody ever does.And nightmare moon? forget it. All there is of her are those tiny chink bootlegs. Same for chrysalis. I don't know how bugfags do it.
>>43347770>But luna? Biggest you'll find is a BaB. Nobody gives a fuck about Luna. Nobody ever does.Fuck you, I am personally interested in at least 10. I know other Moonfags are as financially irresponsible as I am>And nightmare moon? forget it. All there is of her are those tiny chink bootlegs.pic related
>>43347770>Nobody gives a fuck about Luna. Nobody ever does.YOU WILL BE RAPED TONIGHT
>>43347792>>43347810I'm complaining you reta-actually no this is fine wife can rape me this is good actually
>>43347820No FUCK YOU I NEED HER TO RAPE MEEEE
>>43347570If the body goes well, all that needs to be prototyped is the mane/tail, which may be cheaper. The M6 all have the same body type with the major difference being wings and horns. It's not like the first run is a waste - I'm seeing if it's viable.>>43347579Company is hydoll, whom up to this point have only manufactured silicone and plush humans. There is no minimum order, and they have yet to get back to me as to whether a bigger order will lower prices. Even if it doesn't, I think their asking price is firmly within the realm of acceptable - it's just a matter of putting down the starting capital and effort for a first attempt.As to who is next, I think if anything I might make a form and split prototyping costs between groups, assuming it's something people want me to facilitate. There's also the possibility that it's just no good, or that prototyping takes a long time, or whatever else.>>43347705I'm not sure about this one, anon. Seems like there's a lot of moonfags and dashfags. Luna wouldn't benefit from a prototype of the regular pattern, so maybe I'll cook up a form for her, too. The good news is that even without a pattern being sent to them, the company is willing to make an attempt. Plus, we can keep the pattern after the plush is manufactured. There's a lot in the air right now and I don't even know how this is going to turn out. This first bit is just going to be me going back and forth with the company and updating you guys on whatever progress is made.
>>43347705>sure, give me hope, then tell me I have to wait for the ponkfags and the dashfags to get theirs firstThe guy in charge of this hasn't mentioned Luna or Dash once, except to shoot both down because he wants Pinkie first. There is no queue beyond Pinkie, so stop with this whining and guilt tripping and just let the man prototype his wife.
>>43346862Legendary work, anon.Will we have the option to get her without a pocket? I was super eager to get one until the pocket was mentioned.
>>43347705>but don't make me think we're doing luna first.... it's just cruel...Genuinely where did you get the impression that Luna was going to be first?
>>43347907Anon, you can literally just put funny or important stuff in there instead. Stop being an autist.
>>43347900has he bothered to ask the maker of the pattern about permission to use it for mass production? I thought its intent was for single anons to make single ponies
>>43347918i saw >>43346245 and got excited ok
>>43347896Not much changes between the m6 other than wings/horn/mane. I think they will be glad to make future patterns.>+5" size>smaller plot for Luna, bugger for celestia>slightly longer neck and legsIf you have a PayPal I'll be glad to send you a small amount to help with prototype costs. >>43347980Nope. I assumed its OK? Want me to email? I figured they wouldn't mind as long as we aren't profiting. This is still technically in line with their intentions.
Confirmation of what the pattern looks like complete.>>43347607And it does have a great plot>>43348025Sorry for hogging the shit out of your thread, anonfilly bro.
>>43348039>smaller plot for Luna, bugger for celestiaNO NO NO STOP GIVING HER A TINY ASS>>43348039>technicallyIdk, it's what I'd do to keep a clear conscience, but then I wouldn't know what to do if he was against it.
>>43348097Emailed them asking.
>>43348025>there will be a smaller flank version in the future due to... demandWhat colossal faggots requested THAT?
>>43347980I've been meaning to do just that myself but I want to make a stallion...
>>43348025My only gripe is that I highly prefer minky mane/tail to faux fur
>>43348132I was thinking detachable or user installed mane is a good idea. It guarantees this is not a complete product (avoiding import problems) and allows you to pick. It also helps the argument that "technically this isn't pinkie pie its a pink fur horse and you can choose the pink mane or purple one."
>>43348128Based stallion enjoyer. I would do anything for a stallion lifesize.
>>43347980I didn't see the other anon post a pattern, so I deliberately chose a public one. I also have no intention of profiting from this anyway, and this hardly qualifies as mass production. On top of that, we'll probably be modifying the pattern.I've never had a lifesize, but it's apparently a life changing experience, and I want that to be accessible to people. Not everyone can afford three grand and wait two pregnancies.>>43347907I'm going to have them add a zipper on the inner end of the pocket to make stuffing easier and an invisible zipper just under the dock for pocket access. Helps to keep it modular. If you don't want to use it to store your wallet, then use it as a way to stuff the plush. The exterior of the plush, assuming you don't add a wallet, will be completely SFW. If that still doesn't sit right with you, I'll be posting any embroidery files, patterns and order information so that the rest of (You) can do it yourselves anyway, and you can order one without a pocket. If all goes well, I'll try and facilitate the order process for those interested.
>>43348039I don't, anon, but you can email me if you'd like. I would only feel comfortable accepting assistance after the project is completed, though, if at all.>>43348048I originally sent them the one from mares dot horse. Is this the same one? I quite like it, but if it got posted, I missed it. Can someone spoonfeed me for a moment?>>43348132I confirmed with them that they can do either material for the mane and tail.>>43348139Interesting idea, but how would we go about attaching them? Velcro? Have anons do some stitching?Like the other anon said, apologies to cosmic for blowing up the thread. Sorry for the double post, too. Spam filter.
>>43348442/mppp/ stands for Mass Produced Pony Plushies, so I don't see why we can't scheme about the plot to produce lifesized mares here. We've already finalized the fillies, after all.
>>43348438>I'll try and facilitate the order process for those interestedWill it be possible to make single-pony requests in the future? or are we stuck waiting for our waifu to eventually come around to being made? looks like right now it's going to go Pinkie, Luna, Dash, and assuming each one takes a few months it might be years before (you)r wife gets made. Or mine...
>>43348523Hold yer horses. This is very exciting. Let's focus on getting the first prototype developed. Anonfilly is smaller, cheaper, and more margin/volume focused on the production side. Lifesize has enough breathing room and low volume, that it's completely possible this sticks in their catalog of products. 1 Lifesize is around 40 anon fillies, and that's still 70% cheaper than a commissioned one.
*1 Lifesize is ~25 anon fillies.Sorry again for hogging your thread :X
btw this probably isn't the right thread for this, but I'm gonna wait until thursday to make a thread for the convention itself...during testing of the plush badge system, I "ordered" ten badges that say Anon Filly and then WE ARE LEIGON on them, but I don't even own ten fillies, I have 3 from the 2nd run, and 2 from the 3rd run, and I'm probably only gonna bring one or two with me. Maget Filly (this picture is not sideways!) will be there for sure.so if anyone here is coming to sunshine ponycon, bring a filly with you, and I'll hand out the remaining 8 or 9 badges to whatever green goofballs I can find, probably at the plush meet.
>>43348523>single-pony requests>>43346862>I've been quoted $240 per unit, unstuffed, with shipping and embroidery costs included.>Prototyping will run $150, so I'm looking at an initial production cost of $390.It sounds to me like this whole thing will operate on a system of "first anon to get a particular mare pays prototyping cost" and then they can make additional ones for 240.So the moonfaggiest moonfag pays 390 for theirs, and then the rest get one for 240.>>43348675>Maget Fillykek
>>43348048Are you willing to share your pattern?
Did i miss the deadline to get a symbiote filly?
>>43346862I think my biggest question would be is this a factory who will ignore/isn't strict with copyrightThats what I foresee being the biggest issue since most people want a LS of their wife, not just a fandom OC they only like
>>43348442>>43348707Because of this and other factors I'd heavily recommend against doing this in this manner, especially for other people. We should focus on a life size Anonfilly, Verity, Ary etc. with Olyfactory. They already have an old life size pony pattern too that is bigger than filly life size. Then there wont be any struggles or ugliness with the detachable hair and copyright issues from Hasbro, just customs issues. The minimum is probably smaller for a large product at Oly. I remember what happened to /mpp/ and two online friends who fucked around with doing plush preorders for others. They got raped and gaped by taxes, a cease and desist and customers charging the funds back when delivery was slow. I think Oly was sued over the official characters but cant recall. The new customs laws make things so much worse for the shipping and customs clearance of bootlegs of copyrighted designs. Sometimes authentic and inauthentic cartoon and game toys/merch/items are referred to as "2B" (or some variant thats an equal label or name) products in China, it means popular, recognizable IP. Since at least 2024 2B items are more expensive to ship in general, some shipping lines refused to carry them. As of July 2026, the new satanic customs laws make this impossible to do safely, 2B (authentic and not) and plush toys (ANY kind, dakis too, unstuffed or not) are put under an ungodly amount of scrutiny, even from valid anime companies. If you touch money, you'll be on the hook to refund everyone who had their mail away brides stolen by customs! I hate to be a neighsayer but you are sticking your neck out so much anon, holy shit. I'd feel bad not warning you and I'd wanna be warned by someone who was familiar if I missed some oversights on doing something new and risky.By the way, I'm not just saying that because I want one of these OCs to be first or anything. I don't have space or money to get any life size. My roommate would probably lynch me over a life size plush.
>>43348695... Are you talking about what this threads about or something else? Because read the fucking OP if you're talking about the OP.
>>433487271. Ideally this will be parts of a plush and not a completed plush, so it should sidestep import regulations on plush toys.2. He won't be taking orders. He is working with the factory to prototype. When orders are made everyone will order directly from the factory I'm assuming. No liability or tax burden on him. 3. Nobody has confirmed if they are fine with copyright, but this can also attempt to be sidestepped with customization options and removable manes.To defeat the griffon you must think like the griffon.
>>43349246It sadly doesn't. It really blows. Customs took my buddies unstuffed life size lucario and it was last month before these new crazy rules. He says he knew of a few other similar cases so he had them mark it as a gift but that it didn't help. They took my anime figures too, from a legit company that I previously never had issues with. Felt like blowing my shit off after losing 400 in figures. I think more people need to harass our senators to fight to remove these bullshit rules. Twitter and Facebook say that customs is more inclined to steal fandom shit because it's worth money and this new law/rule covers their ass, and that NSFW items are at an even higher risk but they straight up throw them away and try to fine or even jail you if you're in a shithole like Asshole-stralia that has its motherfucking own set of rules. I hope to get out of my tiny apartment and get a LS one day. I just really hate the idea of the detachable hair. Symbiote has talked about selling life size mares. I feel like we'll start seeing that in like a year or so and we'll get our wives through them eventually for no risks for copyright problems (which still leaves customs issues even if the rules reduce or drop because they're bootlegs) or current high scale customs theft. I like how symbiote said they really want to cover every character that got a speaking role. While i dont expect that range for life size plushies i think they'll give us every popular mare and in the maximum best quality. I want us to do this right, with oly or symbiote. Oly can do ocs if symbiote wont but i think symbiote did the marefair plushies. While this project here is a neat idea if no one supports them when it comes around they'll pull the plug on the whole thing and we lose our biggest chance for great looking cheap life sizes. I really dont trust a company who only makes faceless human plushies to make a good looking quadruped with so much detail or customs not to fuck us any time throughout 2026 in the current climate. Oly will share issues that I mentioned but they've at least made a life size pony once and it had attached hair. Just sharing my 2 cents.
>>43348727>My roommate would probably lynch me over a life size plush.You know what you must do anon. Bite his faggot balls off.
>>43349426they took an unstuffed plush? why?
>>43349511I feel like he's coming in here to spam walls of text and FUD. What are the odds a plushmancer or 3 would try to demoralize/sabotage a project that makes them obsolete? They also really want to steer us to using symbiote and oly which increases our burden of development due to administration and the legal side, vs my preferred strategy. Also strange they randomly throw in they hate detachable hair in the middle of saying customs is strict. It reads like someone intentionally trying to fuck us over.
>>43348442>>43348694It's this one allegedly. I got the $200 estimate from this pattern. >>43347008
>>43349573man I didn't even think of thatI figured the people getting a 250 dollar chink made LS were never gonna afford a 5000 dollar QT anyway so why does it matterthe commissioned ones are always gonna be better quality...
It is a plushmancer lol.
Holy demoralization campaign. Let the anon at least see what this company is capable of. All these wordwordswords really does read like some plushmancer trying to convince anons they have no choice but to rely on them for a big plush of their wife to cuddle with.>maybe symbiote will save you poorfags someday, teehee, until then I heavily recommend stop trying to make plushies affordable and instead fork over $5k, goy
>>43348727Appreciate the warning, anon. I'll read up.Minor update; they said if ordering multiple units, they can quote a new price, and if the order is large enough, they can ship by sea freight instead, which would reduce shipping costs further (and presumably increase shipping time).So I guess you guys are free to argue amongst yourselves, but to be clear, I'm still doing this, I'll work out whatever needs to be worked out, and I'll post updates as they come. Probably won't participate in the back and forth. Again, if you guys have any embroidery files or patterns for different body types, please shoot me an email.
>>43350058I dislike the idea of a bulk order, and lean towards people order directly off their site. Less likely things get seized and helps sidestep copyright issues if they happended. Whatever you want. Found ponka eyes and cutie marks in hireshttps://www.deviantart.com/kaitlynd34/art/Pinkie-pie-eyes-340116083https://www.deviantart.com/lite-sparkle/art/Pinkie-Pie-s-Cutie-Mark-264930660
>>43350058If you could make a derpy one my life would be yours
Burger test subject reporting in. After a bit of a delay due to some change-of-address shenanigans, I can say that my package arrived all beat up to shit, but the plushie is fine, similar to the other test anons. Shame though, the dressed-up vector box art is actually pretty nice.
The plushie is cute and the fuzzy fabric is super soft. AJ has a muted color palatte which I found interesting. She is ever so slightly smaller than a Symbiote. I was able to squeeze this outfit onto my Symbiote Derpy but it was a bit of a trial. And unlike my Derpy and her big heavy noggin, this plushie easily stands on all fours without tipping forward.
>>43350155>that Fluttershy outfitunfa wunfa
>>43350155Don't know if this is the original upload, but see this for the probable reason why shipping fucked your box: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxjgKlCPs80
>>43344263So what happens if an anon orders under an email without an associated PayPal? Like do all orders have to be validated manually before the plushes are made?
>>43350409I'm assuming the invoice gets sent to said email and either you pay with your account or as someone unregistered the way other services do it. But uh, it would be good to get an official answer on this ahead of finding out the answer at the last minute.
>>43349482Sounds way too gey>>43349511American demoralization, they wanted it/the $, fursecution, it was a bootleg, a combo, take your pick>>43349573>>43349693Gigakek at the accusation because I was too retarded to even properly close the hole on my build a bear twilights back when it came undone. As for the hair comment yeah the hair being anchored with likely weak velcro or magnets or some shit does not sound appealing and I don't think the hair being seperate will deter post july usa customs or copyright issues whatsoever so itd be a pointless implement that makes the plush be crappier quality.>>43349770Nah, I dont agree with overpriced life sizes. Im worried about fan projects eating symbiotes lunch then we trade off best maximum quality for a small discount in price. If i knew enough people would be around to support that line too then that would be a relief.
>>43351141Shit was always niche. I cant afford an LS any time soon, especially with the US going the way it is. But I still want nice things. Symbiote is a good middle ground ao I can have something at all rather than nothing.
>>43350409You just get a PayPal invoice and then can choose to pay with your actual account or unregistered just like on any other website that offers PayPal.
>>43351141>I'm not a plushmancer, I'm the opposite, can you give up? Jewish plushmancer trying to FUD
>>43350058I maintain a repo of public plushie pony patterns here, if interested. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1piwF9h_rXBmWkcHXxtr54drnD1eKJfiWh66x8nu_CQw/edit?gid=0#gid=0
>>43350058I spoke to the anon who made this >>43349576 so far he has refused the use in this project. >>43352273King! I think qtpony is the best starting point if anon's chosen pattern doesnt work out. I'm sure the factory will also be happy to make requested adjustments for a fee. I'm sure they will also like the instructions for doing stuff they have never done before, like the mane.
>>43351141>Im worried about fan projects eating symbiotes lunch then we trade off best maximum quality for a small discount in priceThis is either disingenuous or ignorant. All claims of poor Chinese quality are pointless now. Where do you think symbiote manufactures? Its not america. The only difference is their pattern quality (previously made by a taiwaneese guy iirc), and licensing. Its also not a small price decrease. Its up to 90%. Worst case scenario we develop a product, the manufacturer says no due to copyright, then we approach symbiote (who already has a license) with a completed product. Only thing symbiote would refuse is the pocket, unless they pretended it was a service port like tripgod suggested.
I want my fillies RIGHT NOW!
>>43347770It’s your lucky day
>>43352273>Verity pattern by Anon is not in this listGrim.
>>43353605It's MY filly, and I need it NOW
