When they made Twilight an Alicorn at the end of season 3 I think they had no idea, that they would make the show for 6 more seasons. And in my opinion making her an Alicorn that soon did end up hurting the show.So with the benefit of hindsight that the show has 9 seasons when should have Twilight been made an Alicorn? In my opinion very earliest should have been end of season 5 or 6 potentially even later. But what do you think?
>>43349375Never ever ever ever
>>43349390fippy bippy
>>43349390fbpb. Twilight would've been a better archmage or some shit instead of an alicorn that she didn't ask to be.
>>43349396>Twilight would've been a better archmage or some shitFunny you should say that.
>>43349390Well let's assume that higher ups at Hasbro say that at some point in the show you need to make her an alicorn. When? Season 9 finale?
>>43349375Either temporarily when she fights tirek when she has alicorn magic, but it might actually be cooler if she just used a bunch of spells to levitate and fight instead of just flying with wings and shooting lasers. It probably wasn't in the budget to make her do cool wizard shit though. I don't really think twilight having flight was ever that important except for some rainbow dash episodes maybe when it's a bit more convenient for her to go to cloudsdale or in testing 1 2 3 where her flying allows her to talk with dash 1 on 1. She could still just use magic for those cases but I think it could get awkward and make Pegasuses feel less special if unicorns can just do the same thing
>>43349375Why didn't Princess Celestia choose her nephew, Prince Blueblood as a alicorn? Is Celestia stupid?
>>43349423>Testing 1 2 3Just have Twilight walk on the ground while Rainbow is hovering next to her. Replace the dumb helicopter with any variety of other hazards she doesn't notice. Same results, just not high up in the air.>CloudsdaleThe cloudwalking spell is already established. Minor tweaks would make it work.
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>>43349375>I think they had no idea, that they would make the show for 6 more seasonswell duh Larson publicly stated multiple times that the writers expected S3 to be the end of the show
>>43349414See? Look how much better she looks. Now compare that to the fucking giraffe we got.
>>43349420>When?as a temporally super formlike imagine S4 ending but Twilight becomes alicorn only when she gets princesses' powersbonuspoints if her BUY OUR TOYS form is also an alicorn
>>43349423>I think it could get awkward and make Pegasuses feel less special if unicorns can just do the same thingTwilight's entire gimmick is being OP with magic, other unicorns aren't as capable as she is
>>43349375if they had to do it, it should have been after the third act lowpoint later in the series, after she's had her return of the king moment. >And in my opinion making her an Alicorn that soon did end up hurting the show.While I fully agree, I also want to push back on simplistic criticism. Sure, making Twilight an alicorn out of the blue was probably ill-advised, but the real killer is that they tried to play her off as totally normal for the rest of the seasons. That was until season 9, when there was a hard right turn into her ruling all of Equestria. It managed to make her feel small and pointless, which is a terrible thing to do to your main character.>>43349423>I think it could get awkward and make Pegasuses feel less special if unicorns can just do the same thingI got news for you, anon. There's a whole unicorn that can float around willy-nilly, and banish Discord by herself.
>>43349390>>43349414Lol
>>43349800Its for charity you monster
>>43349800>piece drawn for charity by request>proof of anything whatsoeverOk retard.
>>43349812>yet another screencap of "mom" lyingActions speak louder than words.
>>43349815>lyingThis is bait. Stop responding to bait.
>>43349831How is it "Bait"?
>>43349797>I got news for you, anon. There's a whole unicorn that can float around willy-nilly, and banish Discord by herself.I know that. I guess they don't need to fly around too much when they confront in cloudsdale since they do have the cloud walking spell. Still feel like the only meaningful use of her flying was when talking with dash. Could argue the movie scene where the balloon pops is another, but twi teleporting to the ground and catching one of the non pegasi works just as well
>>43349375If she had to be an alicorn no matter what, at the start of season 2 as a prank from Discord. Turned into an alicorn to undermine the status of the princesses but Twilight ends up looking the way she does (still basically a normal pony with wings/horn instead of big alicorn like the others) because Discord doesn't have the power to fully turn a pony into basically a god. Then they kill discord forever so he doesn't do it to anyone else.
>>43349812And what the original plan would have been if Twilight was Celestia's successor but not an immortal Alicorn? Twilight would just then die of old age and Celestia would just have to take the throne back after that. I guess nice 60 year vacation for Celestia then.Unless the plan was for Twilight to become first president of Equestria and for Equestria to become a democracy. But president's don't sell well for young girls while princesses do.
>>43350507>Unless the plan was for Twilight to become first president of Equestria and for Equestria to become a democracy.If the stuff about the Everfree Forest expanding and ponies learning to accept true wilderness is true then this is almost certainly what was intended, it thematically fits together. Going from careful management to allowing more freedom even if it makes things more complicated.
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>>43350507>>43350526yeah some sort of democratic council makes more sense when your show is about power of friendship (i.e. a collective)
Season 9 end
>>43349390>still crying about something that was prophesized in S1E1
>>43349375What the fuck, Twilight becomes an Alicorn?! Spoiler's much?
>>43351635When was it prophesized supposedly?
>>43349797>It managed to make her feel small and pointlessThat's how early season Twilight feels though, she doesn't go anywhere for three entire seasons since she's acting as the self-insert for the viewer. All she does is fuck around Ponyville and learn a random friendship lesson of the day. I wish she had more direction by having more focus on her education or ambitions or dreams, something, anything to provide some actual depth to her character but that would detract from her self-insert role.
>>43349375I think it would have been a neat twist if Starlight became the alicorn.
>>43353090who?
>>43353099>didn't watch the show
>>43353099How new are you?
>>43353100>>43353103Thanks for the (You)s
>>43353099>wHo?As if you don't already know.
>>43352868That would had been great. After couple of seasons, Celestia sees that she and her friends have learned enough about friendship and things are stable and doesn't require letters anymore. All of a sudden Twilight is at position she was when she learned about the prophecy and NMM, which we actually know very little of. What was she studying there? She had huge home, apparently one of the perks of being local solar deity's pupil. Was her studies finished, or did she meant to continue on something? All of that dropped when she moved to Ponyville. A gentle crisis of "what's next" would had been very interesting for character building.
>>43351635>>43352805>Still no answerI think anon was trying to troll or something.
>>43353323a while ago someone posted they wished the mane 6 lost to nmm and celestia had to save the day so theres a reason for all of them to be learning more about friendship and in twilights case its because its the first time she ever failed at something which makes her accept how stunted her friendship growth isshes still snarky but shes trying to grow as a pony after learning she cant do it all on her own anymore
>>43353336While as cool as it sounds, this scenario raises another questions:1. Is Luna saved and demooned by Sunbutt, like Twily did in original? (if yes, couldn't she do that 1000 years ago?)2. Is Moona banished again? (if yes, wouldn't that be a waste of one of the most popular characters in the show?)3. If Twilight failed, wouldn't that portrait Celly as even more incomptent than later seasons did? (the show made it 100% clear that Twily has severe friendless issues, sending her to operate an artifact powered by friendship sound like a bad joke)
>>43353613Not that guy (or guys), but in a better written show, Celestia 1,000 years older and able to handle NMM without the Elements would make sense. Unfortunately, the show we got makes no differentiation between past- and present-Celestia.
>>43353621Celestia is 1000 years older, so is NMM. She couldn't beat her without the elements back then, why would she do it now?>inb4 1000 years of trainingCelly has entire country to rule with fuckload of responsibilities, while NMM doesn't. By the word of Faust, Luna spent entire length of banishment in NMM form. It'd make sense to make her even more dangerous after a millennium
>>43353692Was she actually sentient while on the moon? That's kind of retarded if she was. It being a millennium is pretty retarded as it is but having Luna be aware for that long is mega retarded
>>43353694It's directly stated she was IN the moon, but nothing says whether it was physical or spiritual.
>>43353702so she was the moon?
>>43353694Discord too was sentient the entire time he was Sunbutt's garden gnome, so at least it's consistent
>>43349375never ever
>>43353692>>43353694I think she spent the whole time on the moon in sort of stasis, and continued the business back down on Equestria without missing a beat.
>>43353326yep