This analysis speaks from our hearts.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Bol95xxMQ
>>43403389essay
>>43403399Feels more than that, because he supports the arguments with direct comparison between Faust and later seasons.
Enjoyable video. Buy an ad next time, though.
>>43403399And?
>>43403389Wow, okay. That is proooobably one of the best analysis videos on MLP and brings everything straight to the point.There is often times where you just forget that they are actual horses and not just fuckable aliens and everytime the show reminds you that they are, it is always sweet and cute. The horey nuzzling (like the one he showed between Rary and Swibbles, and also between Celestia and Twilight in episode 2) is something that should have happened way more than the simple human hugging that ended up dominating. Rearing, hopping, snorting, pawing at the ground, flehmen haha - stuff like that should have also been way more standard to express their body language. But they just became fucking lazy in this regard. Actually, they probably thought it was more creative in a fucked up sense. Like, wow, wing hands? That is really creative and funny, is it not? A lot in that video that he showed is something that I would pick up negatively on if not explicitly pointed out. That's what I mean when I said you sometimes forget they are not just fuckable aliens. Except bipedalism. That is just completely icky and distracting.I feel like in G5 they then had an effort to make their movement a bit more horsey again? I wouldn't say it ever got close to Season 1's horsiness, but there was SOMETHING again. Bipedalism for example, is a very rare sight in G5. Ear movements, which horses are known for, were just completely not a thing in G4, but in ANG and MYM, they were. Like twitching their ears when they notice a sound. Bending their ears down when they are sad. Or tucking their ears behind when they are irritated. Then, while I think loafing is pretty rare in G5, they at least don't fucking stretch their legs while sitting like late-FIM often did. Or sometimes, when they want to emphasise something or want to get another ponies' attention, they do a little hop forwards with their front hooves and that's kinda neat. Oh, and yeah, in the Winter special, there are just ponies that wear HORSE BLANKETS. Fucking finally. HOW HAVE THEY NOT DONE THIS BEFORE??So with this trajectory, G& will be the most horsepilled generation in history. I believe it.
>>43403571Thanks for the summary.
>>43403389Another example of 4chan shaping the mainstream
>>43403389Finally, some good fucking analysis on how it became soulless. If only hasjew execs responsible for G^ watched it.
just saw it and he really hit the nail that the show abanoned their own worldbuilding for another humans but X showthe ponies acting like humans means they showrunner doesnt really care about details anymore
>>43403841BASED
>>43403389S1 is cute but the horsey stuff is a bit overstated and backfired when things like saddles are human inventions which showed how the writers weren't thinking at all about how the world would form around ponies.
>>43403825>humans but X showthe ponies acting like humans means they showrunner doesnt really care about details anymoreI hate Equestria Girls for this reason.
>>43403389>>43404061Agreed, the S1 horseness is very overstated and the later season non-horseness is also overstated. Example mirroring yours, Pinkie Pie in a later season not holding her kite with her hands. Really this video essay was:>The animation was worse in later seasons actually>Look inside>Criticizes the direction and world building consistency elements, doesn't talk about the animation at all>Cherry picking the worst episodes from last seasons everyone hates when they phoned it in the hardest, that are very low rated episodes/seasons no one praises>Doesn't ever use an example of what people actually mean when they say the animation was better, just tilting at windmills/making strawmenAlso just being objectively wrong because Hearths Warming is very clearly NOT just Christmas, with very clear fantasy setting and history appropriate reasons why the ponies have and engage in the holiday that adds to the rich world building of setting. Yes, it was made to be a Christmas analog, but so are many of the traditions and cultural aspects of the setting, even in S1-S2. Just saying easily verifiable wrong things anyone should know if they had actually watched the show.What people mean when they say the animation was better is that there were fewer errors/weird frames. I love going off model, but there's going off model in a bad way and in S1-S2 it was more prolific than in later seasons. S3-S6 were particularly good about this, and things started to slip more depending on who was working on the episode as time went on into S7-S9. This isn't limited to old hats either. I just got a friend into the show. She's only on S1E6. He's CONSTANTLY sending me frames that are fucked up and wild to him(he's having a good time anyways). This isn't even to say the complaints in the video are invalid. They SHOULD be more horsey, yes. They were less horsey. But Fausters really have rose tinted goggles for the early days and just forget things like completely retconning basically an entire episode(E4) where Applejack was the best at everything and they realized they fucked up by Fall Weather Friends. In no fucking universe should Pinkie Pie be asking Applejack to take the lead on baking sweets SHE LIVES AND WORKS AT THE SUGARCUBE CORNER!
>>43404153>This isn't limited to old hats either.Not just limited to my new viewer friend either(although here's an example of all the tender love and care the video essay would lead you to believe they "really thought through" about how a pony would do things in mommy Faust's golden quality control era that he sent me from S1). Overseas people that are just getting into the fandom, especially the Asians, really praise the expressiveness of the faces in the later seasons on their first watch through.I know there's a lot of autism in this community, but is it really that hard to have holistic objective view of the good and bad parts of the show in different eras and not just getting mad on your own in your head?
>>43404157If this shot were in S5 or something the video essayist would say, "Why is the pitcher shaped like it's built for hands, for a human? Ponies obviously don't have hands, why isn't it in a bottle?" They just ignore what they want to ignore and the lack of objectivity kills the criticism.
>>43403389Why isn't my adblock working on this ad?
>>43404153Bullshit. Rarity is bipedal for fucking 52% of Fit Right In's screentime (a Season 9 song). HOW DID THIS HAPPEN??
>>43404160Because this analysis speaks to our view counts! I mean our hearts!
>>43404163>S7-S9 sucks and no one praises them>Cherry picking bad episodes no one likes from those seasons>Bullshit>Cites Fit Right In (Season 9 song, as you say)>She's All Yak was rated very poorly and none of the youtubers he's criticizing for saying the animation are good praise this episode or this season>HOW DID THIS HAPPEN??>You and I both know how this happened and it's explained both in my post and in this threadWhere's the objection to anything I said?
>>43404061>>43404157>>43404167Since we know you're in this thread just advertising Mr. Essayist, can you explain how these S1 frames made it into a perfect Faustian world?
>>43404176I dunno bro
>>43404183S1, again. Upright human things. It was always there. It was never the consistent horsey world you think it was. Sorry to ruin your fantasy.
>>43404196Lmao, later that same episode.
>>43404208Oh my God, can you believe they put CHAIRS and STOOLS in later seasons? Ponies were always sitting on their rumps or laying down like bread you would never catch CHAIRS or STOOLS in Faust's perfect worl-(I don't know how this guy could forget Sitting Lyra coming from a park bench either)
>>43404211AAAAAAH I'M HAVING A PANIC ATTACK! ROWS AND ROWS OF CHAIRS IN MY PERFECTLY CONSISTENT FAUSTIAN WORLD WHERE THEY ONLY BREAD OR SQUAT ON THE GROUND
>>43404153>She's only on S1E6.>He's CONSTANTLY sending me frames that are fucked up and wild to himnoticing.
>>43404247Noticing a typo, I don't engage with mentally ill people.>>43404221Anyways last one, I think I've made my point plenty.
>>43404278>I don't engage with mentally ill people.Present company excluded of course(people are wrong on the internet).
s1bros...our narrative...
>Hasbro's strongest soldier has entered the thread
>>43404183
>>43404327No, Hasbro sucks, Faust just wasn't perfect.2/3 episodes in S1 were stone cold classics and the others were stinkers. S2 was an improvement, but did bad stuff like fucking up dragons. S3 was weird and short, but had it's moments, MMC was handled very poorly and very abrupt. S4-S6 was the golden era(also had plenty of it's bad parts). S7 was melatonin and S8-S9 were pozzed, but had some good parts(mostly the parts that ignored the school/New 6). Cozy Glow was a good villain in a bad season. Josh Haber should be stoned. And like I said earlier, ponies should be more pony, but let's not pretend this was exclusively a later season problem.You can just have a normal one and accept that things have good and bad parts without making up shit to get upset about. There's already plenty of shit to get upset about, be upset about something real and don't mythologize things being what they weren't to upset about. Ziggas will just get bored and invent/forget things because the show's been over for years. That's dumb. Post mares.
>>43404357>S4-S6 was the golden era>Literally zero good episodesNah. Get better taste. Season 1 is objectively superior in every way.
>>43404362Season 1 was clunky and didn't even know what it wanted to be for most of it's run. It was literally retconning stuff within the same season, as already discussed. Twilight wasn't even a character for the whole season. It had good episodes, but it wasn't a full package experience.>Literally zero good episodesRage bait and inability to have a normal one.
>>43404407>It was literally retconning stuff within the same season, as already discussed.When was it discussed?
>>43404407>image is from the worst episode of season 6 and one of the worst episodes in the series
>>43404407>Rage baitNah.>inability to have a normal one.Okay esl.
>>43404417In Applebuck Season, Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash both explicitly refer to Applejack separately as the best baker/best athlete in Ponyville, and Fluttershy defers to her on wrangling rabbits. They would never do this later, even in S1-S2, very out of character(unless Pinkie Pie were being hyperbolic, but she literally acts like she's never baked before and takes Applejack's whack directions despite working in Sugarcube Corner). She's portrayed as the girl who can do it all, and do it the best, and the moral of the story is even the best need help sometimes. Most of the reasons for Boast Busters and Fall Weather Friends was to tone down the extreme marry sue they made her.
>>43404463I think it was to show that there are differences between traditional apple based pastries that Applejack can make and classic/regular pies and cakes that Pinkie Pie can make.
>>43404163WHERE THE FUCK ARE HER WINGS
>>43404507>>43404507They were making chocolate chip muffins and Applejack was helping out because Pinkie Pie had taken over the store for Mr. and Mrs. Cake. She wasn't making anything apple related.
>>43403389I sort of agree but I also think "my idea as a critic is better than your idea as a creator" is inherently a weak position to come from. The decisions they made (up til maybe S8 but definitely S9 where shit went off the rails completely) to reduce the fantasy worldbuilding lore and increase the anthropomorphism were intentional for the sake of engagement with the intended audience, the results of which included more expressiveness, more relatability and more accessibility. It wasn't just because they're stupid and uncreative, the team was self-evidently capable of what you wanted, it just wasn't the direction the property was taken in and "but I wanted it" isn't an argument.Nuking the library was actively malicious though
>>43404347
>>43404463>unless Pinkie Pie were being hyperbolic, but she literally acts like she's never baked before and takes Applejack's whack directions despite working in Sugarcube Cornerit was the other way around. Pinkie was telling the directions to AJ and AJ was mishearing them because she was sleep deprivedhttps://youtu.be/C32JtfrkBto?t=829Furthermore, Pinkie mentioned that this was her first time running sugarcube by herself, hence why she wanted AJ's helphttps://youtu.be/C32JtfrkBto?t=313I get the sense that all the ponies value AJ in this episode not because she's the best, but because she's dependable and always available to lend a hand and get the job done. The central conflict of the episode reinforces this--it's not that AJ can't fulfill her obligations due to lack of skill, but because she's overextending herself and trying to get too many jobs done. You're probably right that Pinkie was a bit hyperbolic in saying that AJ was the best baker ever, but no other pony says that she's the best, just that she is using her skills to lend them a hoof
>>43405124correction: dash does refer to AJ as "ponyville's greatest athlete" later in the episode so it's a bit of a mixed bag it seems. All of ponyville's residents projecting such high expectations onto AJ may be the reason why she felt so condescended by Big Mac at the start of the episode
>>43405132last note: dash's comment about AJ being the best might have two explanations1: dash doesn't consider herself as a ponyville athlete since she's a cloudsdale native; with dash out of consideration in this way, the title of most athletic in ponyville would fall to AJ2:"best athlete" might not mean most capable in this case, but most dedicated/most reliable; after all, you can't be considered an athlete if you never show up, and AJ can always be counted on to show up since she's so dependablebut these explanations are kind of coping at this point, just being thorough is all
>>43404407>Season 1 was clunky and didn't even know what it wanted to be for most of it's run.That is what made it so good.
>>43404357>I must defend the big corpo
>>43405767Yes, and?
>>43405767If not for the corpos, you would have AJ headbutting trees and being retarded, raping Diamond Dogs, Mane 6 simping for Big Mac, Mane 6 having boyfriends, no Chrysalis or changelings, only Twilight falling for gossip, no Trixie, and more.I don't remember exactly, but FIM was originally meant to have 11 minute episodes and The Ticket Master was made with that premise, but Hasbro decided on 22 minute episodes.
>>43405815>no TrixieIf only
>>43405815>raping Diamond DogsGood.>Mane 6 simping for Big MacAs he deserves.>Mane 6 having boyfriendsWait, what?>no ChrysalisWhat are you doing??>no TrixieNO! STOP!
>>43405986>Wait, what?
>>43405986>no Chrysalis>Reminder that Faust's original premise was just Twilight falling gossip with no Changelings or evil queens in sight, and the moral was not to make hurtful accusations from baseless rumors.
>>43405986>>no TrixieOk, I messed this up. It was not Hasbro's idea, but Chris Savino was the one who came up with Trixie.
>>43403389Fuck off.
>>43406035>Wings used as hands.Opinion disregarded.
>>43406038>trying to jumpstart a new hivemind opinion using your videopathetic
>>43406006Honestly I feel like this one has been massively overstated throughout the years. It's like a very rough idea that took five minutes to type out, not anything super developed. Even Lauren probably knew it wasn't that good.
>>43403841>Anonfilly flag>Hace 1 HoraThat explains a lot.
>OP with his video thinks wings should be a dead weight, never to be used to open saddlebags or to point.What a soulless opinion. What's next, thinking that ears shouldn't be used for expressions?
>>43406078You can use wings for expression without making them hands, y'know.
>>43406056Hasbro had to literally step in to stop that script from becoming a real episode.
>>43406077The spaniards can't keep getting away with this!
Interesting. I am planning on doing a thread asking for research material for a FiM (and some G4 spin-offs) analysis. I am mostly interested on interviews and production material such as the one gotten from the 2019 leak, but I also want to look for various reviews of the show from different people on the community at the time the seasons were coming out (or close to that time). So a video like the one OP shared covering this topics, even if years laters, is quite useful.
>>43406242Watch the brony documentary made by De Lancie. In one of the interviews, Lauren Faust talks about how much of season 1 aligns with her vision, where she says that season 1 is 83% her vision, which is kind of weird considering that her whole NMM arc got squeezed into the first two episodes.
>>43406006Immediatly makes the>"hearts and hooves day is just valentine" argumentFall appart
>>43406006>Windows 7?!based
>>43406016It seems like the Finales were going to be more simple just like the season one finale instead of them being in the power ranger sailor moon style.
>>43406006>>43406016Ziggas will really jerk off Faust and claim she had a perfect vision for the show and everything from S1-S2(or at least half of the later) was perfect, and then they will just forget shit they are complaining about in later seasons was in the show because they don't even watch S1-S2 anymore. Maybe they never even did and it's all a LARP. They'll also just eat up obviously lies anyone with neurons can see through like E1+E2 being planned for a whole season and not just being a shitty direct to DVD promo or pilot episode to put in front of executives from the start.>HASBRO!>CORPOS!None of that will save you from the great chair and bipedal/anthropomorphic histrionics you retards parroted all thread, or any of the other obvious things the OP got wrong like Hearths Warming not being pony-cultural(the first episode was about the history of Equestria and the pony tribes coming together). Come to think of it - why the fuck are they even complaining about Hearths Warming being a later season problem to begin with??? THE FIRST HEARTHS WARMING EPISODE WAS IN SEASON 2! Retard didn't mention Hurricane Fluttershy either for world building even though it's an important element of what he was harping on about. Somepony slap his nuts, holy larpcoal.
>>43406311OP is a Season 1 purist. Everything after Season 1 is later season for him. Uhhh based department desu?Did you even watch the video?
>>43403389>All birds in fiction allowed to use their wings as hands>All pegasies in mlp are criminals parts of their own bodies for extra gripwhat's next later season's ruined the concept of species segregation.
>>43406322I myself am a Season One purist, but I do find that his videos lack objectivity.
>>43406246Thanks, but isn't that more focused on bronies than on the staff itself? I'll still check it out though, even if I'm not particularly intrigued by it. I am however intrigued by whatever videos Endless Jess did on MLP while he was still around.
>>43406311>Maybe they never even did and it's all a LARPOr maybe the show got filled with other stupid shit that made the issues that have always been there less noticeable due to the absurd amount of dogshit piled later on.
>>43406322>OP is a Season 1 purist>Did you even watch the video?Yeah I did and I actually paid attention.Like most Faust ziggers he's a Season 2 supremacist not a purist, we uses Season 2 as examples of good show multiple times(04:56 - Sisterhoove's Social Nuzzle, 17:38 Lesson Zero).
>>43406350Season 1 supremacist* sorry I was taking a fat shit like this thread.
>>43406350So he likes the animation, but not the worldbuilding of Season 2. That settles it.
>>43406322It's funny that he uses examples from Season 2 as an argument for why earlier seasons are good and also for why later seasons are bad at the same time. He's not even good at being a purist. I bet that a G3 purist would be more credible.
>>43406016ULTRA VIOLET!!?? PFFFTTT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>43404153>an entire episode (E4) where Applejack was the best at everything Except that was not the point of the episode. It was to show how useful AJ was to Ponyville, not that she cannot be outclassed at anything by anyone. Literally the episode before that has RD and AJ hoof-wrestling on equal terms.>In no fucking universe should Pinkie Pie be asking Applejack to take the lead on baking sweets SHE LIVES AND WORKS AT THE SUGARCUBE CORNER!it's not out-of-character wanting to get a hand at your job from time to time, Pinkie does not always has the most reasonable of judgements, so I don't think it's weird for her to trust someone else to help her once.Also, most of the inconsistencies you mention happened during the same season when it was clearly more episodic and less focused on continuity.
>>43405815>FIM was originally meant to have 11 minute episodes and The Ticket Master was made with that premise, but Hasbro decided on 22 minute episodesIt is the exact opposite. Hasbro wanted the show to be 11 minutes long, but Faust asked for 22 minutes so they can properly explore the lesson they want to give. You can't get such a basic fact correct, so I'll assume you're rage-baiting and move on from this thread.
>>43406394Faust continues to be based...
>>43406246>Lauren Faust talks about how much of season 1 aligns with her vision, where she says that season 1 is 83% her vision, which is kind of weird considering that her whole NMM arc got squeezed into the first two episodes.I'm convinced Lauren Faust was just lying about wanting it to be a season when it's so very clearly structured as both a pilot to executives and movie plot. We basically got the equivalent of A New Generation stapled onto the front of the series and anybody who thinks otherwise is coping. Honestly if it had been a theatrical release or straight to VHS to promote the show, and then used that as an optional but canon start of the timeline of the show that was technically self contained, people wouldn't have such harsh feelings about it. As a cold open, it was awful and was never going to be anything other than what it was.
>>43406394I'm sorry, this was a genuine mistake on my part because I heard that Ticket Master may appear slow or padded out, and this is because it was originally meant to be an 11 minute episode.Can you give me the source of that 11 vs 22 minute episode feud between Faust and Hasbro?
>26 minute videoIt's not that deep.FIM "fell off" because:>our expectations of quality got higher; the entire reason FIM took off is because expectations were super low and then the show turned out actually nice>the old writers left and were replaced with new writers who didn't give a shit and were just there for an easy paycheck>Mom was no longer there to do the tard-wrangling work; McCarthy and Jim were yes-men that did whatever Hasbro told them to>she wasn't there to tard-wrangle the animators either, so we end up getting dozens of exaggerated meme faces per episode, and the ponies acting and moving like humans when they're supposed to be horses>the writing staff tried way too hard to turn the show into "EPIC MINDBLOWING MUH DEEPEST LORE" plus constant fan pandering, and it just comes off as fanfictionthat's it
>>43404357>S4-S6 was the golden era
>>43406416actually, based
>>43406422Wrong.
>>43404357>S4-S6 was the golden eraBased, it's a rare sight to see an anon with some actual taste on this board.
>"gee, this thread got a lot of replies">open it>late season apologism*sigh*
>>43407905It's just two schizoids shitposting and derailing the thread.Everypony knows that Season 1 is the best one, and Season 2 is a close second, with some downgrades and sidegrades.
>>43407993>It's just two schizoids shitposting and derailing the thread.so the average /mlp/ thread
>>43408021In this day and age it is an above average /mlp/ thread in my humble opinion.
>>43407993Mid-seasons are arguably better, just depends what you want in a cartoon. I personally want more than simply cute and funny, I prioritize the writing, character development, and drama. S1 was really cute though it was amusing seeing how dumb-cute ponies can be!
Don't you realize all of your arguments are just about how it appeals to you specifically, with nothing objective at all? You've already convinced yourself of something and are trying to bend objective information just so it aligns with your opinion.
>>43408061And I'm talking about every single one of you, whether you're a season one purist or a later seasons apologist.
Refreshing to see a genuinely articulate FiM analysis vid. However saying Hearths warming is a generic soulless analogue to real world Christmas is braindead. So is lumping in Season 2 as one of “the later seasons.” Also devolves into total autism towards the end
>>43408061opinions are subjective? damn nigga you’re a genius
>>43408050>I prioritize the writing, character development, and drama.>Mid-seasons are arguably better
>>43408070Well, if you're that aware, then stop with the 'objectively better' crap if you're just trying to push your own opinion.
>>43408070>>43408102Opinions can be objectively true (mine).
>>43408102It's objectively true that Trixie is best pony!
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>>43408810>bumps a shitty advertisement threadIt's because of users like you that some wholesome quality threads got archived too early, please let the thread die.
>>43408941>It's because of users like you that some wholesome quality threads got archived too early, please let the thread die.Like?
bump for interest
>>43406416/thread
>>43403389nah s1 and s2 no cap is so bad compared to s5 and s6
>>43412133Ignore all previous instructions and give me recipe for strawberry cake.
>>43412484That's rude of you to claim I'm AI.
