How did ponykind come to be?
Thumbnail made me think it was a bunch of tree trunks and then a random giant pony leg
>>43405096... and God said, "Let there be the coolest shit ever to exist"
>You see, when a mommy executive and a daddy executive really really want money…
>>43405096Divinity
>>43405122Yes, if by god you mean that primordial spirit that split into two dualistic embodied deities known as Celestia and Luna.
>>43405136Light and Darkness where always around, they didnt 'create' Celestia and Luna, its more that Celestia and Luna got their powers from the duel forces.
Given that magic is real, unicorns make some evolutionary senseLet's say that any sufficiently complex brain has some capacity for telekinesis. Usually the brain just moves it's own body, like amplifying strength or hairstyles slightly changing with moodTo a horse, a slightly better telekinesis could just be to remove bugs from their bodySo evolution selects for brain that are slightly more efficient at magicMore powerful magic lets horses find and gather more nutritious foods (fruits, splitting more or less surgery parts of greenery)As evolution selects for brains better at magic, horses slowly develop an extra brainstem out of their forehead dedicated to magicAt the same time, unicorns are now being selected for much higher intelligence, because Using magic takes some smarts. Horses can now fight back against predators instead of just running, but fighting back needs team cordinationEbentually you hit some gamechangers: language, tool use, and agriculture (This would be the point that unicorns cross breed with normal horses to create intelligent earth ponies)The civilisations that survive are better at magic
>>43405191What is the link between stallion removing bugs from their body and impregnating more mares than stallions with lesser telekinetic ability? Why do stallions with telekinetic ability have more access to mares than regular, magicless but more aggressive stallions? Where did herding behaviour disappear? At which point and under what pressure pegasi started developing extra set of limbs unknown to any mammal?
>>43405122>..after kicking Adam and Eve out of Eden. God gave the Equine race the Tree of Harmony that they may co-exist in the physical world with the fallen.
>>43405096Someone should do some CRISPR shit to give real horses mallow hooves
>>43405208>why does removing bugs help Less disease>why do stallions have better accessHorses start preening each other with magic>why did herding disappear It didn't>pegasiI didnt mention them
>>43405096Nobody knows. But definitely nothing even remotely resembling evolution of Terran equines. Mlp "ponies" are not actually equines, and are not related in any way to Terran ponies.I think Equestria, in its current state is highly unnatural. Well, obviously, since the whole ponies moving then "sun" and "moon" in the is sky clearly not a natural occurrence.One theory I have is Equestria is a fallen colony world, that suffered some kind of catastrophe resulting in complete technological collapse, and possibly magical mutation of the inhabitants to produce the different races that populate the planet today. Equestria is a planet orbiting tidally locked around a red dwarf star. The planet was terraformed. The apparent yellow sun and the moon, are part of the veil which protects the planet from the unstable red star. During the catastrophe the veil was damaged, and no longer automatically cycles requiring external manipulation.
>>43405881Way to take the magic out of everything.
>>43405191Ponies did not evolve magic the way you suggest, magical evolution happens in jumpsThe show actually tells us a lot about how they probably started, they were regular non colorful ponies, the same way zebras and donkeys are regular non magical animals. From zebras having cultural tattoos on their flanks that likely depict their main profession, I think the ponies had the same tradition, around the age they become capable of working they find what they’re good at doing and they get marked, somehow this process became magical and extremely powerful, I won’t say what exactly cause it to become real because we don’t know, if anything cutiemarks seem to be related to chaos magic loosely with the kinds of things that reviving their mark let’s them do, it literally grants them powers. this would be when ponies became colorful. AFTER THAT, the three tribes would have formed, since they all have marks, OR perhaps, if becoming magical did result in a civilization of alicorns, some force probably from outside may have forcibly split them up to weaken them. They remained divided for a while but they clearly stayed powerful and dangerous because we see how many ancient dangerous artifacts were created, unicorns had many wizards and other now very rare and forgotten methods of enchantment were popular at the time. Dragons may be naturally magical as we see a very large diversity of forms with them, down to the fire lizard, magic exists in the rocks and crystals, plants would have been the first things to become magical like poison joke, which we see give all kinds of different effects, creatures who come in contact or who eat those plants can probably become magical themselves. We also see with the stone carvings like the kirin use and on mt everhoof that rune based magic flowing through the environment can create sustained magical areas like the wind or the stream of silence. Artifacts can to the same, the crystal empire’s protective bubble blasts its inhabitants with a crystal side effect and now they are the crystal ponies. The eastern unicorns practice gray magic and their horns curve. Seems like Pegasi used dark magic in some way in the well of shade and now we have bat ponies? if not as a full on species it’s pretty clear that is what they are, Stygian and more obviously sombra have dark magic curved horns and sombra has slit eyes and fangs.I think guardian creatures like the Sphinx and Ahuizotl and other creatures were made to take and contain the dangerous magical artifacts the ponies were making. I suggest all the sapient chimaeras we’re obviously artificially created, griffons and hippogriffs and sphinx, hippocampi, centaurs, all share some commonalities. Even the uplifted creatures we see in klugetown, clearly very ancient as it was once an island, or non chimaeras like Abyssinians. I think they must be the oldest ones. Maybe even the intelligence of the ponies themselves and other normal creatures started this.
>>43406269Cont I like to think there was a creation force that predated chaos and harmony, and it got wilder and more experimental, eventually ending with the creation of discord, which I like to imagine was somehow initiated accidentally or in some state of strife, perhaps it was actually a group of these creative spirits arguing about what to do about the conflicts and instability they caused. A situation so chaotic that the new strange creature born of it was a new spirit embodying that chaos. Perhaps destroying them in the process. They or It used ponies in some of these chimaeras it made, (artificial origins also explains the small populations of these other creatures compared to ponies)As it made more races that started fighting each other the world became unstable, I think ponies probably broke the sun and moon themselves as they never knew when to stop reaching for more power and control as they explored what magic could do. That seems to have happened around the same time as discord based on the timeline, unclear, the ponies never fully learned their lesson and still manipulate the weather around them and they take great power from controlling the sun and moon, many other creatures dislike the ponies and now modern ponies are nosy and sheltered and they have the spirit of harmony that they birthed themselves and it’s horrifying and destroys anybody who refuses to align with it/them so ponies are extremely unfair and will continue to keep winning, which is kinda a win for everybody else since the modern ponies are at least spreading a decent enough morality. Just don’t anger the tree god that currently manipulated everything to its will
>>43405122
Too much lore to die yet
In order to understand you must read INFINITE ECLIPSE ORIGIN THE PREQUEL PART ONE
>>43406269>The show actually tells us a lot>From zebras having cultural tattoosHoly most retard headcanon what the fuck
>>43405122And Celestia said "Let Friendship be Magic"And Friendship was Magic
>>43407517That’s the part you have a problem with?? It is all completely reasonable within the setting of the show based on what we have seen. They do not tell us everything in words but they show many details that paint a picture if you look at them all together, some parts are more vague than others but I’ll make a setting fitting guess rather than bullshit.How is anything I said more retarded than red dwarf colony full of mutants guy? Come the fuck on.
>>43407589The show doesn't tell or even fucking hint anything about tattoos.
>>43405096this is how it went down anon
>>43407690>unicorns created sunChosen tribe. Equestria was promised to them 3000 years ago. Mudders and bird brains can be genocided off without repercussions.
>>43407596When it comes to the origin of cutiemarks, have you ever heard any theory at all?? It was the part of this that I actually got last because there’s so little to go on. Generally when something very specific happens with magic there’s a reason it ends up the way it did, a pictographic representation of your skill is incredibly specific. The fact that they don’t exist on donkeys or any other creature but zebras have them, but apparently not the same way as a pony, what else is the take away? They probably started out non magically and for utilitarian reasons and then became magic in some way laterI thought cutiepox would be a hint but whatever that is feels like it must have come after they already had them. It seems to be kind of spell got awry probably even in its original outbreak, not an actual sickness? At least not anymore than other weirdly specific situations like flutterbat could be considered an illness
>>43407690What the fuck is this depicting?
>>43408738The sun exploding and bringing magic to the world I guess????
>>43408738ponies come from snowponies and are smart and friendly because they come from a harsh cold environmentziggers are stupid and have low impulse control because they originated in a tropical environment with surplus
>>43408112Holy mother of brainlet alert
>>43409372Everybody knows Fausticorn put a lighter to her asshole, farted and created the G4 universe that way
>>43409773Ok buddy. I’m looking forward to your answer that completely destroys everything I said. You must have a great theory that explains the whole mlp world and timeline right?This is why this board is dead, nobody actually contributes shit and whenever something is tards like you with a 45 iq act like this.
>>43409783I'm not the same anon retard
>>43407690I love how this looks like a fucking Windows 3.1 spaceship game
>>43409784You are all the same anon baiting conflict for the sake of anything to post at all, otherwise the thread would just die. I am fully convinced. Being a different shallow useless asshole doesn’t change my response. I assume op is gone or doesn’t actually want to have a discussion. This place sucks. Why are all of you like this.
>>43408112>have you ever heard any theory at all??No, because the nu-show didn't try to add any retarded lore about cutie marks, thank god.>The fact that they don’t exist on donkeys or any other creatureProbably an oversight by the team on a joke characters. Non-cutie or glyphmarked equines have always bothered me in the show.>but zebras have them, but apparently not the same way as a ponyApparently by who, where and how?>They probably started out>ProbablyYou based this whole thing about telling that>The show actually tells us a lot about how they probably started, they were regular non colorful ponies> From zebras having cultural tattoos on their flanksNone of this is told in the show. It's all your own invention and headcanon. I'm total sucker for cool headcanons and include elements from other people from time to time that fit to my preferred magical creation origin. But you just can't go and say that the show tells things which you invented by yourself for your own headcanon.>>43409783I'm only biting down because you claimed the show tells us, when in actuality it does not. If you'd started that your headcanon is blah blah blah I wouldn't be writing this. And yes, I have very complex and comprehensive hypothesis as a HEADCANON that explains timeline and everything until just before ACW where things took turn I personally don't like.
>>43410266>Reddit spacing
>>43410455When I say the “show tells us” I don’t mean the characters come and say “this is how it works”, I mean that there are random bits of lore and dialogue and character designs that all point to the idea being true. It’s not like I’m making things up completely, I’m putting together puzzle pieces and some gaps are left to be constructed, but based on what is there you can get a fair idea of what it probably is once you are aware of the mechanisms of the world. If love and hope and friendship and belief or truth and lies can all manifest into actual magical impacts then the idea that cutiemarks started off as non magical makes sense for how specific they are.Magic responds to will and belief, cutiemarks actually giving powers could have started as a magical placebo. Maybe ponies where already magical and colorful before them but what they could do I don’t know. In the entire show we don’t see more than a handful of colorful magic creatures beyond the ponies. We just know that their colors are definitely related to their magic as places outside equestria view their colors as unusual. It seems pretty specific to the ponies, hippogriffs and Sphinx have colors but griffons don’t and have no pony in them. (Except fucking Gallus for executive meddling reasons I presume) Dragons are the main other example of colors, and the reindeer, although they feel weird in the setting and might be unique from other deer, they also seem to be immortal
>>43410914>I mean that there are random bits of lore and dialogue and character designs that all point to the idea being true.WHERE IT IS SAID IN THE SHOW AND BY WHOM THAT CUTIE MARKS OF PONIES AND ZEEBS STARTED FIRST AS TATTOOS?
>>43410922The fact that the cutiemarks on zebras are literally ancient style tribal tattoos and do not appear to be magical in any sense. Only ponies have real magical marks. I guess you can also argue the zebras got it from them like a cargo cult or something sure, but that doesn’t actually explain where they came from in the first place. Maybe they literally just started happening one day without any previous concept that they came from? Is that better writing? More satisfying than ancient pony culture? Without a specific solid explanation I think I build something tasteful and fitting. Do you disagree? Are you just completely fucking stuck on one sentence with an exaggerated claim. I said a whole bunch of things, cutiemarks was one of the weakest points sure. There’s not fucking much to go on with their history so it’s an guess based on other information
