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What are some of your Hot Takes about the Show and or the Fandom?
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>>43413056
I just don't care anymore.
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>>43413056
Princess Luna is best princess!
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>>43413056
People don't appreciate all the work William Anderson and Ingram did with all the little musical cues that play throughout the show.
G% makes their absence painfully loud.
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>>43413056
Did spitfire eat a spicy pepper or something
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Misty should've become an actual alicorn.
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>>43413207
G% isn't the show or the fandom
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>>43413056
I think the show was ok.
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>>43413056
Spitfire is the hottest pony in the show.
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>>43413056
diamond tiara>cozy glow
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>>43413220
Heh igi
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>>43413201
>William Anderson
Yes. Thank you. He's an underrated part of the show.
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Trixie is best pony.
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>>43413207
She can't even fuck and cum.
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Hot take. Dragons in G5 are trash. G4 dragons are depicted as bullies and jerks. Chrysalis isn't that sexy, either, unless you get into kinky ass bug stuff, and at that point, it's just a fetish. Also, Dragon OCs are closeted scalies.
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>>43413056
The show was better before Lauren Faust left, and Mcarthy and MA Larson ruined the show with alicorn twilight and redeeming discord
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Hottake getting popular via g4 fandom as an artist (in any form) should be easier, although for dragon scalies, and chrysalis lovers, and some other general categories there should definitely be “obstacles “
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>>43413692
>Chrysalis isn't that sexy
She really isn't. I think it's the whole irredeemable villainess shit that gets people going.
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>>43413713
No its because she's black
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>>43413716
And old
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>>43413692
>Hot take. Dragons in G5 are trash.
Woah woah woah, hold your horses. It's getting TOO spicy with those takes!
>>43413696
>The show was better before Lauren Faust left, and Mcarthy and MA Larson ruined the show with alicorn twilight and redeeming discord
I'M BUUUURNIIING!!!!1
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>>43413056
I prefer horse pussy, but a lot of HVOP images still keep ponies cute despite it being porn, whereas a lot of 'accurate' ones are just OOC porn or hardcore fetishism.
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>>43413305
Is this fucking official?
The juice between the legs is... definitely a choice
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Hot takes are a meme
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>>43413696
>The show was better before Lauren Faust left
Not a hot take newfag
Try again
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>>43414729
I could forgive pre-2015 pics for HVOP, but in the current year HVOP comes off as retarded and amateurish to me and not very cute, I agree on that horsepussy often forgets the cuteness.
Most post-2019 pony porn is really awful.
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batponies are not canon and all those slut OCs should be ridiculed
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>>43414844
TRVTH
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>>43413064
FPBP, everything good has already been made or discussed, and outside of adaptations of more media or OC faggotry, we don’t have much left.
>but hasbro’s G6
I don’t want to touch that with a 12 foot pole, there’s going to be nothing really redeemable from it.
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>>43413220
Obvious to anyone with common sense
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celestia sending cozy to tartarus is worse than the trio stoning her. basically shows how the entire of the school idea failed because cozy learned more about friendship with chyssi and tirek than twi and the others.
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>>43413056
Chryssi did nothing wrong.
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>>43414857
...except make a threat to Canterlot. And blow her cover. And "just fuck it": Send in the drones. And not killing Starlight. And not killing Thorax. And not clipping Spike's wings.
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Batponies are sexy and all those slut OCs should be PLAPPED.
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>>43414844
Truthnuke. Boy am I glad that they canonised AppleDash relationship though. It being official and canon is so good!
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>>43414844
another hot take, wing hands look like shit.

>>43414736
>>43414723
My take gets me ridiculed so it is a hot take in the wider fandom.
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>>43415035
Rarijack is better
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>>43415114
even without the takes you'd have been ridiculed anyway
just look at you...
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Post your hot takes you have regarding certain Anons.

I'll start by saying that this Anon >>43413706 is alright looking but not really my type.
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>>43413056
Applejack is not a lesbian. No way in hell a mare like her, growing up in a traditional home, surrounded by family values, would not want to start a family herself.
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>>43413056
Perfect Pear is the most overrated episode of FiM
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>>43415675
True, but Anons will seethe now that you've said it.
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>>43415689
I dunno nonny, everyone else agreed it was overrated in another thread.
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>>43415699
There's also people defending it. Back when this episode premiered you would get dogpiled on for even hinting that you didn't like it.
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>>43413056
It went bad the moment it tried to become the next Adventure Time
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>>43414730
yes, it is an official internal document with fanart that some intern just picked randomly from derpibooru
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Flurry Heart never existed. Cadence was never an alicorn. She and Shining Armor are married, yes, but they never had any alicorn foal. They were both high level functionaries. Since they were highly trusted, they were sent to the Crystal Empire to be its regents until new rulers could be selected.
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>>43416153
She's a unicorn right, nonny? She'd be a unicorn and not a pegasus, right?
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>>43416160
Yeah, unicorn. Not alicorn, not pegasus, not earth pony.
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>>43416161
And it'd be Crystal Kingdom instead, right? Since she's not an empress and it's not an empire, right?
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>>43414730
Look at the bottom of the page
>What's hot
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>>43416162
NTA but she's unicorn petty noble from one of the royal houses and ancient family lines that existed way before Equestria was united, which Celestia let be as they swore loyalty to her and Luna.
There is no crystal "empire," silly. If somepony would be even close to an emperor, a king of kings, that would be Celestia. And she is not one, but a princess.
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>>43413056
22-minute toy commercial.
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>>43413056
Applejack did nothing wrong in Non-Compete Clause, and people only act like she's also in the wrong here because the fanbase was categorically allergic to admitting when Rainbow Dash was at fault for something without also shoving off some blame onto someone else.
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>>43413056
The Cozy Glow/Flurry Heart shit is stupid and has no merit and would just be Discord and Fluttershy all over again.
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>>43416714
Truke
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>>43413305
Reminds me of that VA reposting a picture of Celestia and Twilight with cum in their mouths lol
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>>43416834
It was Celestia voice actress celebrating thanks giving on Twitter.
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>>43416836
Yeah I just looked it up. Huge autism war in the Furpi comments too, but that's to be expected there.
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>element of loyalty
>call you a friend
>sell you for a material thing
the element beam should not work by that point
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>>43413056
S3 is the best season overall, even in spite of the botched finale.
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>>43416894
...and all the other botched episodes.
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>>43416894
S3 doesn't have Luna Eclipsed, so...
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>>43413056
Hot take. It has shitty ass fans with shit taste. The fact that the fandom at large enjoyed the final seasons and were satisfied with the shows direction really fries me.
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>>43416923
>shitty ass fans with shit taste
The fact that Dashie was and still is by and large the most popular pony is proof enough of how shitty most of the fans taste was.
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>>43416934
Sounds like someone's boyfriend was stolen by best pony!
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>>43413056
How how a take is depends on the community we're talking

for TikTok/Twitter:
>You weren't traumatized by the fandom, you're just a mentally undeveloped zoomer
>Trixie is not trans, Chris Savino thought of her without any in-universe implications of a transition
>If no real animals are being harmed, drawing horse-pussy and clopping to it is completely fine
>Mare Fair has had a much more positive impact for the pony community than any convention you were groomed in when you were a child

for Reddit/Derpibooru:
>The show's finale sucks and having a bunch of previous characters appear at the end as if this was Avengers Endgame doesn't make the conclusion less forced and the story any less unbearable to watch
>Glimmer is an awful character and Trixie should've never been brought back if she was only going to be her sidekick
>The Perfect Pear is a decent, but it's uninspired and overrated
>You deserve G5 being as bad as it was for being complacent to the many awful changes made to the show pushing it further away from what made it good

for /mlp/:
>Season 7 is the second worst season of the show (season 8 is obviously the worst) and the lady writers are as bad as the rest of the new writers, season 9 is bad but it at least took some risks and had more interesting plots.
>Non-Compete Clause is over-hated, and based on what people say during the anni re-watch, there are worse episodes that deserve way more hatred
>S9 faces aren't bad because they're wacky or off-model, they're bad because the artists are afraid of making something that look genuinely ugly and/or they never commit to whatever expression they're supposed to be emoting
>Most of your complaints about retcons and out-of-character moments aren't real, you're just so obsessed with your headcanons that you can't grasp any form of deviation from it

for everyone:
Your waifu is crap
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Hot take: Thread quality is getting devastatingly low
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>>43417002
>Flag
I guarantee you're part of the problem.
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>>43416162
Yeah, I'd be fine with that.
>>43416509
I'd be fine with this too. I get the idea that Celestia is not an Empress and so on. That's why I said Cadence and Shining Armor would be regents only (not king and queen, or emperor and empress). It's just that governance of the Crystal Empire (or kingdom if you prefer) is only temporarily vested in Cadence and Shining Armor. Celestia and Luna appointed them so that no threat or ponitarian (using this word instead of humanitarian) crisis developed on the Equestrian periphery in the short term. Maybe Celestia and Luna were unsure of what the solution to the problem would ultimately be.
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>>43416714
>Non-Compete Clause
I don't think I finished watching that one, but I liked that Fluttershy was always Teacher of the Month.
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>>43416939
AWOOOOOOOOOOGA SEX WITH RAINBOW DASH UNF UNF UNF PLAP PLAP PLAP!!!
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>>43416160
as faust intended
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>>43416714
>>43417000
I've never really understood why Non-Compete Clause is so hated. It's just a standard "AJ and Dash have a rivalry" plot that's mostly inoffensive. Like it's not good but I can think of a lot of worse episodes
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>>43413056
Princess Twilight Sparkle Pt. 2 is the worst episode in the entire series.

ACW is when the show started to turn for the worse.

Seasons 5 and 6 are on average better than seasons 3 and 4.

All of the Flim and Flam episodes are shit.

Fluttershy is the most consistently written character.

Starlight was a great addition to the show.

Reformed Discord was a great addition to the show.

Maud is unfunny and overrated.

CMC episodes are better than M6 episodes on average.

Equestria Games is one of the best episodes in the series.

Ponyville Confidential is one of the best episodes in the series.

Simple Ways is one of the best episodes in the series.

To Where and Back Again is the best two-parter in the series.

Flutterdash is the only M6 ship that isn't dogshit.
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>>43418194
oh boy...

>Princess Twilight Sparkle Pt. 2 is the worst episode in the entire series.
there are plenty of worse episodes. just take your pick from S9
>ACW is when the show started to turn for the worse.
not really a hot take
>Seasons 5 and 6 are on average better than seasons 3 and 4.
is this even a hot take?
I mean, only the first two seasons are really great and only the ninth season is irredeemably bad, so I don't really pay attention to season rankings like this
>All of the Flim and Flam episodes are shit.
Super Speedy Cider Squeezy is obviously not shit
>Fluttershy is the most consistently written character.
is this a hot take? I mean, this might be true but it is mostly because she's the least developed of the 6.
>Starlight was a great addition to the show.
I agree. this is only a hot take on this board though aka contrarian central
>Reformed Discord was a great addition to the show.
I kind of agree; again, this is an /mlp/ specific hot take
>Maud is unfunny and overrated.
she is funny; whether something is overrated or not is a matter of opinion, but I will say that yours is wrong
>CMC episodes are better than M6 episodes on average.
there are way less CMC episodes than M6 ones, so it's not really fair to compare them
>Equestria Games is one of the best episodes in the series.
sheesh. which one is this again?
*checks*
oh. the Spike one. I mean, it was okay, but it's not one of the best episodes of anything
>Ponyville Confidential is one of the best episodes in the series.
this is kind of a hot take. I mean, it's one of the best S2 episodes for sure, but I don't know about the whole series.
>Simple Ways is one of the best episodes in the series.
It's really not; it's predictable as hell and full of story cliches, which would make it a mediocre episode of television in any other show, but the FiM characters elevate it into being better than it actually is
>To Where and Back Again is the best two-parter in the series.
it's one of the better ones. Return of Harmony is the best two-parter tho
>Flutterdash is the only M6 ship that isn't dogshit.
every M6 ship is bad
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A lot of the flanderization people talk about doesn't actually exist, and some of these characters have been like that since season 1.
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>>43413056
Hate the show.
Hate /mlp/
REALLY hate anon, fuck that faggot.
Hate OP.
Hate every pony.
Like Spike.
I think friendships are gay. But I'd be friends with Spike he's the exception.
Season 6 was the least worst season.
G6 will actually be the first good generation.
Celestia isn't fat and she smells good.
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>>43419433
Shitty person, great body!
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>>43416923
>fandom at large
hugboxes like reddit don't let people genuinely criticize shit
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>>43418163
>I've never really understood why Non-Compete Clause is so hated. It's just a standard "AJ and Dash have a rivalry" plot
their bullshit endangered others
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>>43418194
>>43418313
>>All of the Flim and Flam episodes are shit.
>Super Speedy Cider Squeezy is obviously not shit
nah the story centers around both Apples and F&F being retarded with their property
Leap of Faith is kino, though
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>>43418771
>A lot of the flanderization people talk about doesn't actually exist
late season Twilight is flanderized because nu-writers weren't required to watch the whole show, with Lesson Zero being Sparkle's "definitive episode"
literally can't deny the flanderization when it's cause is public fucking knowledge
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>>43419518
>>43419528
I want to cum inside crazy Twilight!
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>>43419528
>but the episode alone was perfectly fine for its purpose.
I didn't deny that the episode is good for showing THIS part of Twilight's character, flanderization happens exactly with
>using that episode as a basis for her character
that we know did happen
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>>43419498
Correction, Rainbow's bullshit endangered others. Applejack's event plan was entirely fine until Rainbow screws it up.
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>>43413056
Show is meh.
Fandom is toxic.
And yet, fanworks are really good.
The fandom often takes the setting into a less safe environment that the show is too afraid to explore. The show has the right environment to have these extraordinary tails and handle deep emotional conflicts. As much as I hate the fandom for their cult like "love and tolerance" policy which only extends to their fandom, I'm only in it for the amazing works of art they create.
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>>43413056
Rarity is the goat but the show forced her to be minimized as a crybaby drama queen.

She's VERY hardworking, she never asks for anything in return, she's very generous and even bites her tongue sometimes to not hurt the other pony and even tries to see their side. She's not afraid to make huge sacrifices but the show overshadowed all those good qualities for the sake of using her as a joke...

Also rarity in My little pony: Pony life looks DOGSHIT, what did they do to her bro... i hate how she looks in there SO BAD.
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>>43419614
Love and tolerance my ass, are you in the same fandom i am???
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>>43419614
Some retards took love and tolerate literally. Nobody in the modern era actually knows what it means, and that goes double for Anons here.
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>>43419663
love and tolerate has never been board culture until we got a bunch of limp wristed refugees
You do not need to be a complete fairy faggot to enjoy the show, some people disagree though
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I love and tolerate all your hot takes.
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>>43413056
My hot take is that Maud is an uninteresting character and an unnecessary addition to the show.
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>>43419642
So... she's the best if you ignore anything that isn't completely glamorizing her and treating her as flawless?
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bumping
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>>43421366
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>>43413056
Unicorns are superior to every other race
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>>43421970
That's not even hot take. They did as single tribe control both sun and moon in pre-unification era. It wouldn't mattered if earth ponies or pegasi did go extinct, because spells n' shit. Literal chosen tribe.
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>>43421970
obviously.
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>>43419498
Many characters have done that in other episodes, and even worse because their poor behavior is rewarded and the lesson is awful to teach kids, almost any Glimmer episode is worth a place for "Worst episode ever". At least Non-Compete Clause's "lesson" isn't actively harmful:
"If you see people being jerks to each other, learn from that so you do not repeat their mistakes."
There are way worse episodes in this shows, but especially on this same season. Concluding a episode about suicide with "Just say people to not kill themselves, it's that easy." is as terrible of a lesson for kids as it is tone-deaf to what means to be depressed.
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>>43422351
>pic
oh yeah, the second My Little Pony episode that features suicide ...
Desu Non-Complete is probably SO hated because it used M6 as mains just to shit on them
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>>43422370
Yeah, it seems to be a case of an episode having a problem that isn't the worst yet it is the hardest to ignore. Meanwhile, episodes like the ones I've mention have worse flaws but they require you to understand nuances that most people don't have the brains to even know they exist.
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>>43413056
Her season 1 voice is among the top 5 most attractive voices to me.
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>>43413056
Slut
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>>43415162
She did start a family. With Rainbow Dash.
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>>43418163
Them endangering the students felt off but I also don't like the students so I found it kinda funny until dash and AJ needed saving
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>>43419642
The show stopped using rarity almost completely by the end. I think she only got one episode in the final season and it's the one where she simps for spike. I guess they really just didn't know what to do with her and didn't feel like doing retreads like they were doing with every other pony
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>>43418194
All flim flam episodes would be greatly improved if they were mares instead of faggots
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>>43424246
This Anon is going to get scammed out of his virginity
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>>43424246
All episodes would be greatly improved if they were faggots instead of mares.
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>>43424293
Rainbow Blitz wants to come inside (YOU)!
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>>43413056
Hot Take posts are a meme, OP is a nigger and everybody in this thread is a flaming fagula.
That hot enough for y'all?
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>>43424293
MY hot take is that Bubble Berry is the hottest of the R63'd Mane Six.
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The fandom became significantly worse as people started taking the show more and more seriously.
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>>43424330
Nah, that's quite reasonable.
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>>43424344
That could be said about most fandoms for episodic cartoons from the 2010's. People wants to feel mature so they try to take more seriously what they enjoyed for its weird creativity and comedic value. That was one of the first things I've noticed about FiM when I first saw an episode of it: It felt like something they could broadcast in Cartoon Network, sadly it was on Discovery Kids so my first instinct with it was cringing at it, even if there was something that kept me watching for longer than I wanted to at the moment.
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>>43413269
These two being recruited to out-bully and out-manipulate Cozy during School Raze would have been a way better payoff than the student 6 getting special powers. Since Cozy's arc started with the cmc, DT and Silver were built to be Cozy's mirror rivals as an extension of the cmc's good will. Plus Babs if they can squeeze her into their plans. The cmc deserved to take down one serious villain after a decade as the B team, but they got cucked by literal who teens when it came time for an actual filly villain.

Also, since they shoehorned the cmc into interacting with Twilight's students, they should have shown Cheerilee's class graduating and an end to "Twilight Time" before all that.
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>>43413076
That's not a "hot take". That's a scientific fact.
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>>43413056
I really like Jay Fosgitt's art style. I'm not excusing his use of clip art or griffin characters that don't resemble their show counterparts, but I find the way he draws ponies the be extremely cute.
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Rainbow Roadtrip was the closest the show ever got to feeling like S1/S2 era FiM
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>>43425078
The fact they did nothing with Diamond Tiara or Silver Spoon after S5 was a shame.
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I do not want to cum inside Rainbow Dash
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>>43425455
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>>43425455
Do you want her to cum inside of you?
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>>43425455
Now THAT'S a hot take
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>>43425455
What are you, a faggot?
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>>43413056
Rainbow Dash episodes have always been the worst of the series.
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>>43427721
How'd you misspell Spike that badly?
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>>43427721
Not a hot take at all. I'd argue she has more bad episodes than good and mediocre ones combined.
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>>43413056
faggots from both twitter and here makes the fandom insufferable to be apart in
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>>43427721
>>43428102
I'll do you one better. Rainbow and Scootaloo episodes are overrated as hell and their dynamic is incredibly shallow. People give it a free pass and hype up their relationship far beyond what is reasonable because it's one of the only redeeming traits Rainbow was ever given.
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>>43428512
Is that you, "quality /mlp/ posts"? The bitching stinks the same.
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The show didn't get worse with each season. It was always terrible actually.
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>>43427721
Rainbow dash episodes are bad mostly because the wonder bolts are lame as fuck
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>>43429873
Damn, you're kinda right. The only time they were allowed to be cool was in that edgy war timeline, and they got absolutely mogged by earth pony special forces.
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>>43429516
don't worry, he'll make another tweet bitching about anons critiquing Haber
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>>43413056
The moment the show died was when it tried to take itself seriously and have more in-depth world building.
The amount of good that came out of this decision is outweighted extremely by how much garbage was bagged and thrown into a landfill.

Princess Twilight, Flurry Heart, Changedlings, Friendship School, Castle replacing Golden Oak Library... you get the idea. It started to try too hard.
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>>43430066
>golden oak playset
>middle finger castle playset.
>baby flurry heart with alicorn mommy playset
>school of friendship playset
>Twilight "Isn't this amaaazing? Now I have princess wings!" Sparkle
>toyetic 'lings
Applejack's hat not being pink is taking itself seriously. Hasbro being Hasbro is the opposite.
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>>43430098
>permanent physical changes in the show are things that aren't taken seriously
It's not about if (You) think it's serious, Anon. Decisions being made for toys doesn't make those decisions taken any less seriously by the show.
I repeat, the SHOW.

I COULD have rephrased my point. It's more like the writers trying to make it more than it was. Like another Anon said, it tried to become another Adventure Time.
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>>43430060
My hot take is that the quality /mlp/ posts guy is a fucking faggot.
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>>43413056
This board overrate the earlier seasons the same way the outside fandom overrate the latter seasons
The more obsessed you are with porn being anatomically correct, the higher the chances you're actually just a furry
And the most important one, the show is nothing spectacular, it's a good kids show, but it's also filled to the brim with every single cliche known to man, everyone simply ignores that because they have this fantastical version of the show they made up in their heads
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>>43413056
People concentrate too hard on Josh Haber and don't properly distribute their hatred towards other writers that are as much deserving of hate, if not more, like Nicole Dubuc
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>>43430123
The show only caught off-demographic interest because Faust took MLP seriously.I object to this belief that not taking it seriously would yield better results. The show would turn out like Pony Life and g3, with the same near non-existant fandom. If the serious parts were nothing but good, that anon would be comparing FIM to LOTR x Sailor Moon instead of AT. Wishing the writers had lowered standards reads as doomerisms wishing nothing good ever happened.
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>>43430123
I think there's a difference between taking the show seriously and going for DEEPEST LORE, which is the trap many stories fell into in the past decade or so. I wouldn't say MLP fell into that, at least not completely, sure you have stuff like the Pillars of Equestria, or those random mcguffins from Season 8 that sealed Starlight or whatever, but at the same time it also demystified a whole lot of things, the Everfree Forest went from a mysterious forest filled with unknown magic and creatures to just some forest that Scootaloo's monster hunting parents thought was too common to stay and study, Canterlot became just another city, the Wonderbolts are closer to a sports team than they are of being part of the military, etc.
It's a weird mix, I can see your point but I think the show's lore went one step forward, two steps back for most of the time
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>>43413056
Lightning Dust is just Rainbow Dash without plot armor. Literally the same character.
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>>43430214
>>43430239
It's interesting to see the complaints about what changed in the show, because my gut reaction is that many of the changes were necessary to fit with how expansive and (in-universe) developed Equestria actually is...
...except that when I step back, and consider Season 1 & 2, Equestria really was less populated & developed based on what's presented (or at least, that was clearly the intended vibe; obviously stuff like the instant electric lights in S1E1 got in, or the arcade cabinets in S2E17, which *technically* pushed things well into the 1970s even during the Faust era).

And so I think arguments on small, individual changes will inevitably fall flat, because people are making their arguments from fundamentally different views on what Equestria *is*.
The Faust-era lovers see Equestria the way she did: a roughly early-industrial nation that has very limited tech and a lot of unexplored land.
Meanwhile, the people who are more chill with later seasons see Equestria the way it was presented in those seasons: a late 20th century industrial superpower.

And so, what's stupid or not about the setting changes depending on which of these two Equestrias is the one you think is "normal"/"correct". Is what we got correct, or is what Faust wanted correct?
Neither of these answers are correct unto themselves, as it boils down to opinion, but it is interesting to see that people discussing how "right" or "wrong" the setting became may not even be using the same baseline as who they're talking with.

So yes, the Everfree being barely anything, Canterlot being a smaller-than average city, and tech being more common all goes against the "Faust intended" Equestria.
But it also makes complete sense for the industrial superpower we *see* Equestria to be throughout the show.
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Idk if this is hot take, but I would divide the show into four eras: Ascension, which includes the first 3 seasons and Eqg 1, Redemption which is everything else Eqg before Rollercoaster of Friendship, Journeys, which is seasons 4-7 and the Movie, and the woke era, which is everything else. I think that is the best and most concise way to categorise the show. You can have subdivisions too, like dividing Ascension into Classic and post-Faust, but these four mane eras have pretty consistent themes and character/story arcs.
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>>43416894
That finale was perfect you faggot ass normie, and Eqg 1 was the best possible way to finish off her arc! I hate you!
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>>43413056
The Crusaders' cutie marks are dogshit and any anon who draws them should be castrated in public.
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>>43430388
The cutie marks are second to how retarded their career counselor destinies are. The entire first half of the show hammered home how they were missing the point by throwing random shit at the wall, then the second half invalidates this by having them teach other ponies to throw random shit at the wall anyway. Crusaders of the Lost Mark really was the Magical Mystery Cure for the CMC, and not in a good way.
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i completely see why g4 got all the recognition and love it did and all of its merits and stuff but i just really prefer g1 and g3, especially asthetically speaking. g4s artstyle is very very cute but the g1 ponies [toys, artstyle, and designs] are just adorable to me in a way g4 just doesnt meet the mark on. g3 too but less so, also im really mad they didnt include minty more in g4 >:[ idk if this is still a hot take desu but last time i checked everyone hates g3
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>>43430492
like BWAUGH just lookit their dumb little faces
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>>43430499
>horses are silly-looking
Uh, yeah. Have you ever seen a horse?
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>>43430504
yes i love horses thats one of the reasons why i love g1 so much they look like more like horsies
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>>43430388
I'll be the real hot take contrarian and start drawing them more often. I've been lazy when it comes to cutie marks.
>>43430449
>hammered home how they were missing the point by throwing random shit at the wall
I don't know, waiting for your special talent to come to you by magical rainbow destiny, while romantic, is a godawful life lesson that the m6 impart. Twist wasn't sitting on the couch while eating potato chips when she realized she enjoyed baking candy. It's important for kids to actually try shit to see if they're good at it, or if it's something they're passionate about learning. Unless you're Cheerilee, then it comes to you in a dream. The irony of s1 was that the cmc were already doing what they liked, they just didn't realize it's their special thing yet, exactly like Twist's story. Even in Magical Mystery Cure, Twi solved the curse by getting her friends do shit, rather than staying miserable with what their newly given careers were. The show was really schizophrenic in telling cutie mark destiny lore while imparting lessons about finding your passion.
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>>43413056
Pony Life is what every S1 purist wished the whole show was, a slice of life show about a group of friends having fun little adventures
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Pinkemena Diane Pie is a shit meme.
Pretty much all the dark/edgy pony shit sucks and always has.
Rarity and Applejack are great characters, but Rarijack shipping sucks.
Chrysalis and Cozy Glow got what they deserved.
Everyone who is a Chrysalis/Changeling fan is a piece if shit.
Every Dashfag is also a piece of shit.
Most fan vids sucked.
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>>43430698
>meme
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>>43430708
Maybe meme isn't the right word, I know it came from Party of One, but it's something that the fandom got way too retarded over.

>>43430239
There's nothing inherent wring with 'deepest lore', even in a setting lije FiM. Fimfiction is a testament to that, but that kind of shit takes time to iron out, more than a show is typically given these days.
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aj has almost no good episodes
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>>43430716
Aj has some great episodes, she just wasn't a power fantasy character, and she was always held to a far higher standard than the rest of the cast.
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Grimdark, including Fallout Equestria, is an over hated minority. Horror is one of the few cool things we have left from the golden years. Action oriented art with pop culture inspiration is all but dead. My hot take on the fandom, including /mlp/, is that it's a lot softer and more feminine than it used to be.
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>>43430732
The problem with AJ is that she is, in the minds of the writers who have likely never gone any deeper than suburban California, the white/traditional/conservative character, and therefore gets relegated to the hollywood hick character ghetto. And since white people are bad, you'll notice she's always portrayed as stupid/ backwards/in the wrong/ignorant.
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>>43430830
>And since white people are bad, you'll notice she's always portrayed as stupid/ backwards/in the wrong/ignorant.
This is especially noticeable when you look at the episodes of other characters telling her how to do her job better than her, like Bats, or AJ's Day off, they're right and she's wrong. But when it's any other pony having someone else tell them what to do in something they're an expert in(Fluttershy in Fluttershy Leans In, Rarity in Suited for Success, etc) it's always them who's wrong for thinking they'd know better than the expert. So AJ is more or less the only one who can be wrong about her job while the others know better than her, and everyone else has perfect knowledge and you're wrong if you try to tell them what to do.
That basically sums up what I mean by "she's not a power fantasy character". She's pretty much the only one who isn't already the best and most perfect at what she does by default.
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>>43430698
>Pinkemena Diane Pie is a shit meme.
Yeah, but she's a lot hotter than normal Pinkie desu
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>>43430799
Grimdark, including FoEfaggotry, is always very poorly written, which is why it's hated.
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>>43430799
It's a sign of the changing demographic, the fandom went from mostly millennials, people who were already adults when the show was airing, to zoomers and gen alpha, people who grew up with the show
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>>43431062
haha ur old
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>>43430799
I think Fallout:Equestria doesn't get enough hate, but that's because I hate Fallout 3.
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>>43431094
Fallout Equestria doesn't get enough hate period.
>>43413056
Putting manes on changelings other than queens is retarded.
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>>43427729
In all fairness Spike actually has a fair chunk of good episodes, some of them among the best

Secret of my Excess, Power Ponies, Inspiration Manifestation, Gauntlet of Fire and Molt Down are all good to great. I have to rewatch Times they are a Changeling, don't remember if that one was good though it is an important one

It's just that his bad episodes are some of the absolute worst, he's a very inconsistent character when it comes to his own episodes. But when he's just an important side character he's arguably one of the best characters. It's just that those bad episodes drag him down way too much in most fans' eyes

...and I suppose that's my hot take for this thread. Oh, and his future design is fun, I genuinely like it (Not the G5 one though, ew)
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>>43430799
I shit on FoE because it's frustrating how much potential it had to be interesting if written by someone more competent. As it stands, the best parts are where it comes up with its own concepts that parallel Fallout without being blatant copy and pastes. The downside is that a non-insignificant amount of it is just Fallout 3 with plots from the first two games and Dead Money tacked on near the end. That and being a meandering mess with insufferable characters. Littlepip herself is such a blatant self-insert for Kkat's tranny hero-worship fetish, even more overpowered and contrived than GlimGlam. Maybe the spin-offs are decent, but I really don't feel like wasting more time on them.

>>43431164
>Power Ponies
I tend to see Anons shitting on this one a lot without really explaining why. I though it was a pretty inoffensive 7/10. Fun without being great or terrible aside from the castle plot being abandoned.
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Pony Life was good
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>>43431193
Most times I saw people shitting on it it was because superheroes = bad
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>>43431193
>The downside is that a non-insignificant amount of it is just Fallout 3 with plots from the first two games
I think FOE largely had to be a complete ponification of significant portions of any game to get the ball rolling on the subfandom. Otherwise fans would be bitching about how this generic post apocalyptic world doesn't really feel like Fallout so it should have been more like [insert favorite Fallout game here], or that Fallout is a trash franchise so the fic should be wiped of references to be purely pony.
>Littlepip is a blatant self-insert for Kkat's tranny hero-worship fetish, overpowered and contrived
The only reason Project Horizons exists is because Little Pip was a bitchy mary sue, so Blackjack became the antiPip, so I wouldn't doubt if more spinoffs were written with spite to do better. With how many fans hate the first but recommend it as a lore prerequisite, I'm surprised nobody rewrote it from Calamity's POV, or any version that paints Pip as a burdensome antagonist.
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>>43425078
>The cmc deserved to take down one serious villain
This is extra funny because Spike technically was able to defeat one serious villain, even if it was just the circumstances + Cadance's help, he still ended up becoming a hero.
So the only ones that got episodes for themselves and still never did anything important where the CMC... wait, no, they did one important thing, they RELEASE a major villain, Discord.
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>>43430799
Grimdark MLP was nice, but I feel it may have lead to unexpected consequences.
The amount of crossovers they made back in the early 2010's with unique nerd fantasy settings was outstanding, the inspirations seemed never-ending in terms of variety and quality. Although I feel some people took their creations way too seriously, almost as if they wanted the show to be like their fanfics and forgetting what makes this re-interpretations fun to begin with is the contrast they present. which could've potentially lead to people missing the point of what made the show great, the new staff missing it as a consequence and we somehow ended in the mess that was the Haber era and later G5 (but I might be thinking too way in an explanation for why the nu-writers suck).
Now it is the opposite, the new demographic (Zoomer E-girls and Gen Alpha teenagers) is so up their ass with TikTok, Twitter and Tumblr that they don't get out of their comfort zone, making their main sources of inspirations too similar to FiM or one of those many IPs designed to be milked by content farms, which subsequently turns them unable to create anything that doesn't look as if thirty layers of Hasbro management have asked them to tone down whatever tame idea they already had. This lack of unique sources of inspiration feels especially present in stuff like Infection AU and PONY.MOV fanarts, which are meant to be grim-dark but usually lack any sense of grimness and darkness in their craft. They try to be edgy, but they forgot to sharp their pencils before-hand.
This changes in priorities and unique inspirations can, coincidentally or not, be seen in G5 and G6's art styles. The sharpness that Faust added to the ponies influenced by years of experience working in Cartoon Network shows has faded and it has been replaced with this weird-looking cow snouts that nobody with even half a brain thinks it looks good.
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>>43430799
>My hot take on the fandom, including /mlp/, is that it's a lot softer and more feminine than it used to be.
I don't really think this is a hot take, I also noticed shit got too soft compared to when I joined back in late 2013, both in terms of content and attitudes.
The only reason I even visit /mlp/ is because they've been the least affected by this changes. As the old saying goes "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."
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The way mrscroup draws busts for EaW is ugly and uncanny and it puts me off from wanting to play it just because I'd see them everywhere. Same with all the other artists who draw busts for the game.
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>>43413056
The fandom has become pointless now that the show is irrelevant.
But all my hot takes I would imagine to be rather mild takes here:
- The show peaked in season 4 and progressively went downhill as the worldbuilding became worse.
- Making Twilight an Alicorn princess was the biggest mistake of the show narratively but the first mistake was the introduction of Candance, which destroyed the foundations of alicorn lore.
- Discord becoming the show punching bag to establish the bad new threat destroyed his character.
- The show started catering way too much to the adult fanbase near the end of the show to the point that a lot of season 8 and 9 episodes are hard to watch.
- Starlight Glimmer shouldnt have existed and only derails the show for the purpose of having another Twilight.
- The show plays favourites among the main cast with Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy almost never being in the wrong and Rarity and most especially Rainbow Dash almost always being in the wrong.
- The show sort of became pointless once the characters achieved their primary goals which conflict with them being essentially magic weapons in service of the monarchy. How can Rainbow Dash both be a wonderbolt and stay in ponyville doing stuff? By the time Rarity opens her third boutique, why should we care about her anymore?
- This is all just to say that the show lost its fantasy roots and ultimately destroyed its world building for the sake of actual world references.
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>>43432287
Also, Discord being reduced to an obsession with Fluttershy was dumb. I much prefer the Discord of the first episode of season 4 where he just sits on the sideline. Keeping him like that would have resolved the need to get rid of him somehow everytime there is a problem.
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>>43432287
>which destroyed the foundations of alicorn lore.
There was no alicorn lore outside of fanfiction though. I'm curious, do alicorn Cadence objectors also find the introduction of the lost civilization of crystal ponies lore breaking to the 3 tribes? It seems like there's more hate for introducing a third deity-like being than there is introducing more races.
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>>43432310
Keeping him stoned would've been better.
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>>43432287
>How can Rainbow Dash both be a wonderbolt and stay in ponyville doing stuff? By the time Rarity opens her third boutique, why should we care about her anymore?
I still hold that the biggest misstep with characters like Rarity and Rainbow Dash was making them TOO good at their thing at the beginning. Part of why their arcs feel kinda flat is because there isn't really an arc to them at all. Rainbow Dash is already better at flying than the Wonderbolts, and Rarity is a master tailor whose designs are loved by pretty much anyone who sees them. There really isn't anywhere else to go with their abilities, so there was never a clear direction to move towards in accomplishing their goals. So instead they just kinda exist around until eventually we just suddenly have an episode where Rarity has her new store! And Dash is a Wonderbolt now! But there was never a real progression to it, they were always at that point.
I once saw someone make an observation that was along the lines of 'if Last Roundup was a RD or Rarity episode, the story would be totally different... because RD or Rarity wouldn't have lost the contest in the first place'. We actually see that AJ isn't the best rodeo pony there is first hand, and how there's still room above her despite how skilled she is. Ironically, she is a way better fit for Dash's arc than Dash herself, because Dash has never really needed to improve. She almost got a rival in Lightning Dust, but then even there the episode ends with her being kicked out and Dash getting what she wanted, and so there's once again no real competition or threat in her arc.

Tl'dr; Rainbow and Rarity have subpar arcs because they started the series too good at what they did, and so never really needed an arc in the first place.
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>>43432321
> no alicorn lore outside of fanfiction
While the show never really gives concrete lore, Celestia and Luna controlling the sun and moon respectively make them the most important ponies in the show's worldbuilding. Candance, on the other hand, controls love. But does she? Do we ever see her controlling the realm of love in any way? Does she make people fall in love? What does she do? Her introduction takes away from the specialness of being an alicorn, which is meaningfully tied to the world, for the sake of having a pink alicorn to make toys. The crystal ponies in comparison dont really contradict any established lore, there simply are crystal ponies.
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>>43432287
These are pretty standard opinions here. Most would probably say season 1 or 2 was the peak, but much of the Glimmernigger population would definitely disagree. Personally, I think people put too much stock in season 4's highs that they ignore how many abysmal or mediocre episodes there were between them.
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>>43432326
I kinda like the idea of RD being a lazy prodigy whose main arc involves learning to apply herself. The issue, and this specifically apply to RD and Rarity because they have 'institutional' goals, is that those goals kinda pale in comparison to the thing that they start out as being: The elements of harmony. From episode 1 all the main cast is more important than 99% of the ponies.
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>>43432337
Except it's not all that special to Luna when Celestia can control her moon in her absence, and it's not special to either when the unicorns are said to have moved those celestial bodies before Equestria was a nation.
>Does she make people fall in love?
Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrNbDEC04WQ
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>>43432365
So, her job is to mindcontrol people. That is even worse.
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>>43432404
If that's how you want to interpret the spell. If you like evil Cadence, more power to you.
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>>43432414
What other way is there to interpret it? If ponies naturally fall in love Candance is just mindcontrolling ponies, if they need Candance to fall in love, then its a massive dystopia. Either way, Candance is a hindrance to the show.
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>>43432404
Imagine if she did that to a pair of ponies without knowing they're siblings.
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>>43432321
>there's more hate for introducing a third deity-like being than there is introducing more races
Probably because the third deity like being fucks with some of the more potentially interesting aspects of the show for little world building or narrative gain while another race of ponies is very easily added into the narrative.
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>>43432420
A spell that cools your jets while refocusing the admiration already in your heart is a fine explanation. If that's a loss of free will, wait till I tell you what a cutie mark does. Was Equestria a massive dystopia when the crystal heart, which "reflects hope and love across Equestria", disappeared? Is the crystal heart a giant mind control device?
>>43432436
>easily added to the narrative
Yeah right. The crystal ponies are ignored outside of the handful of episodes in the empire, there's no explanation for why they were never mentioned before, and fans can't even come to a consensus on whether crystal ponies are earth ponies or a fourth race. Cadence gets hate because she's a face competing with fan favorites, whereas the crystal ponies have nebulous snowpity protection. If logic was consistent, Cadence haters would hate crystal ponies for demolishing Faust canon.
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>>43432340
>think people put too much stock in season 4's highs that they ignore how many abysmal or mediocre episodes there were

This is how I felt but about season 5.
I won't deny Season 4 has its many valleys (even if it might be the third best season of the show), but season 5 might be the McCarthiest of seasons both in the way it was produced (Larson being story editor for almost the first half of the season, Miller becoming supervising director for the second half of it, etc.) and the inconsistent quality it has. Where one of the best episodes in the show can be immediately followed by one of the worst ones yet.
However, I would rather watch the interesting chaos that it is the fifth season over the consistent boredom that it is the sixth.
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>>43432501
>A spell that cools your jets while refocusing the admiration already in your heart is a fine explanation
Thats your headcanon entirely. All I see are two ponies who are having an argument and expressing themselves and Candance entirely rewrites how they feel.
>Was Equestria a massive dystopia when the crystal heart, which "reflects hope and love across Equestria", disappeared? Is the crystal heart a giant mind control device?
Reflecting hope and love isnt the same as mindcontrolling people to act different lol and this is an incredible overreach of a comparison.
>If that's a loss of free will, wait till I tell you what a cutie mark does
This is another dumb comparison. A cutiemark is not a random person deciding how you should feel.
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>>43432501
>Cadence gets hate because she's a face competing with fan favorites
Cadence gets hate because she is a compounding factor in the loss of relevance and interesting canon of fan favourites who could have been much more interesting than they are presented.
Nobody cares about the crystal ponies because they are incredibly unimportant.
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>>43432570
>that's your headcanon
You asked for an explanation, lol. Don't act like you're not also throwing out headcanons.
>this is an overreach
Nope. It's magically influencing emotions against the natural order. It's only different if you WANT it to be different.
>cutie marks aren't the same
Worse, it's fate telling you what you will do for the rest of your life, and there's no way you can change it. If Cadence must be a wicked witch, then Starlight and Rumble are tragic heroes and philosophers.
>>43432582
Thank you.
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>>43432599
>You asked for an explanation
Your explanation depends on a lot more headcanon than mine. Cadance looks at two people acting the way they want to act and then uses magic so that they act in a way that she prefers. Brainwashing is much more consistent with the facts than 'but they really wanted to act that way'.
>It's magically influencing emotions against the natural order
It is still not a person deciding to brainwash people, but I still think that it sucks and its good that it exploded. The existence of a giant mind influencing device doesnt make what Candance does any better.
>it's fate telling you what you will do for the rest of your life, and there's no way you can change it
Its still not a person magically deciding how you have to act. Cutie marks are more akin to genes determining your future. Sure, they are deterministic but they are not an actual person brainwashing you because they feel like it. This is a pretty big difference.
And Cadance brainwashing people isnt needed in the first place because people can fall in love naturally. Supposedly, the sun and moon dont move on their own in Equestria. Celestia and Luna are forces of nature, Cadance is a leech on a natural occurring event.
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>>43413056
Princessfags don't like Celestia and Luna as characters, they just like them as lore ridden plot devices
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>>43430799
Probably because all the edgelord shit give hasbro the wrong idea to make fucking g5 the ultimate edgelord piece of shit cancer
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>>43432628
>Your explanation depends on a lot more headcanon than mine.
On the contrary, mine is perfectly in step with the good nature of ponies. You've got a weird evil princess headcanon.
>Celestia and Luna are forces of nature
The sun and moon does not need to move. The act of mortals imposing their will is the very definition of an unnatural act. The natural state of Equestria would be a planet of half day and half night (or for you flat worlder's, however those bodies were situated before ponies arrived). We even know life would survive during Nightmare Moon's eternal reign and that, to ponies, the natural world is unnatural (The Everfree forest having self regulating plants, animals, and weather) . We could then extend this to all magic being unnatural. That rainbow laser of harmony certainly couldn't be a natural way to zap Luna's brain. Artificially ending winter early couldn't be good for the species that adapted before ponykind, and think of what unicorns meddling with time did to the natural order of the universe! All this ultimately means is Cozy Glow did nothing wrong.
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>>43432663
The fuck you're talking about?
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>>43413305
Trixie is one of the funniest characters and if you dislike her narccisism/kayfabe you are unironically filtered. (Never watched past s5 BTW)
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>>43427721
I loved the one where they all gaslight Ber for being too boastful.
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>>43432340
>I think people put too much stock in season 4's highs that they ignore how many abysmal or mediocre episodes there were between them.
>season 5 might be the McCarthiest of seasons both in the way it was produced (Larson being story editor for almost the first half of the season, Miller becoming supervising director for the second half of it, etc.) and the inconsistent quality it has. Where one of the best episodes in the show can be immediately followed by one of the worst ones yet.
Coming from a guy who likes Seasons 4 and 5, you’re right. The quality is all over the place in those seasons to the point it feels like whiplash. Still would rather take them over the banal Seasons 6 and 7, and especially over Seasons 8 and 9.
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>>43434275
Fuck forgot to bump >>43432569
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>>43434275
>and especially over Seasons 8 and 9
I honestly hate season 7 and 8 the most. Season 9 is bad but besides some really awful episodes, it kept me more entertained than the other two, even if it's mostly just a watered down season 6 in terms of writing.
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>>43433659
That's not gaslighting.
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The last chapter of Background Pony fucking sucks and ruins the whole story. Should've been left-open ended on the previous chapter instead.
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>>43432641
I'm convinced none of those people would like A Royal Problem if it wasn't for Daybreaker's design. They focus so much on that moment from the last act and forget how boring and stupid the rest of the episode is.
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>>43434389
>Every chapter of Background Pony fucking sucks
ftfy
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>>43434294
Season 7 is the same as Season 6, but with higher highs and lower lows, Season 8 wouldn't be that bad if it wasn't for the school episodes, Season 9 has some interesting episodes in there, it's just forgotten because it also has the lowest lows in the show, and also the worst song in the entire show, (that one song the students sing on the episode about the tree of harmony, it's the only song in the entirety of G4 that I never saw a single remix of)
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>>43434389
But that would undermine the author's message about self sacrifice and the beauty of living in the moment and taking people for granted, or something. Seriously though, I agree.
>>43434500
Chapter 6, the one with Doctor Hooves experiment that results in Scootaloo's rescue, is literally the only chapter with plot that I remember in that story entire story outside of the initial curse and final boss battle. The fact that chapter 6 led to nowhere but 13 more chapters of misery porn and epic oc lore makes makes me wish there was an abridged version.
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>>43434518
>it's just forgotten because it also has the lowest lows in the show

It has some really bad episodes, but the worst of season 8 are definitely the worst of the entire show in general, both in terms of quality and entertainment value. I'll never be convinced there's an episode worse than Road To Friendship or more boring than The Mean Six. They genuinely represent everything I hate about the later seasons. The only episode from season 9 that may come close to them is Dragon Dropped, but that's because of the creepy undertones it has with the way Rarity acts around Spike.
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>>43434647
Road To Friendship is half redeemed by the song for me, agreed on Mean Six being just plain boring, but I still think it's not as bad as Uprooted, an episode so bad people refused to remix the song in it, or The Summer Sun Setback, an episode that allegedly exists, or even Growing Up Is Hard To Do, which just sucks in general, no matter how much people wanna fuck the adult CMCs
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>>43413056
People should've put more effort into looking up horse anatomy before writing their fics. Reading that a pony is crossing their arms or referring to themselves as having a wrist is weird.
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>>43434789
This and with animations too. There are too many lazy fucks that just treat them like bipeds instead of actually putting two seconds of thought into how they would really move or do things.
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>>43434789
>Pinkie spread her legs to envelope AJ's withers in a great big platonic hug, as Twilight tapped her pastern watch, signalling for the family reunion to keep it short so they could leave on time. AJ scratched her poll nervously waiting for Pinkie's fetlocks to unlock. Rainbow, amused by AJ's discomfort, tried slapping her stifle while laughing, but yelped in pain instead as she banged her knee, despite wearing a padded puffy jacket over it.
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>>43434954
Look at this sovl and tell me there's no god...
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>>43434789
Nah fuck that shit, these are cartoon ponies, there's a reason why the show doesn't give a shit about horse anatomy. Also writing a bunch of terms that only veterinarians and zoophiles know about is on the same level as using big words just to pretend you're smart
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>>43434988
>these are cartoo-
Stopped reading. Don't use horses as your characters if you aren't going to commit to it.
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>>43434993
Sure, keep writing fics that look like a veterinary paper mixed with 30 eloquent ways to describe "he put his penis on her vagina", see if I care
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>>43435002
I'm going to grope your stifle with my forearm, pussy. Maybe drape my fetlock over your crest too.
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>>43434993
>Don't use hors-
Zoo infiltrators can never correctly call them ponies.
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>>43435031
They're the same thing, nonny...
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>>43435042
Yeah that's like going around and addressing "people" as "homosapiens". Technically correct, but not what they call themselves informally.
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>>43435086
To be fair there are terms like horseplay, horsing around, etc., but we don't really use homoing around or homoplay, or homokind.
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>>43435217
>homoing around
But that's what we do here every day!
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The existence of eqg fans after 10 years is absolutely baffling. Like did they get lost on the way to anime or something?
they're just so UGLY
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>>43434789
The ponies in the show have gummy noodle limbs that bend like that tho...
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>>43435086
This is 4chan. We call everyone homos, already.
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>>43413056
This fandom had and has terrible taste in characters.
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>>43413056
the show is dogshit the fandom is what makes mlp so good
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>>43435666
Based Satan.

Trixie, Chrysalis, Rainbow Dash, Cozy Glow, Starlight Glimmer, and Sunset Shimmer are all shitty ass characters.
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>>43413056
You can't properly enjoy My Little Pony if you didn't watch Slice of Life anime beforehand
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>>43432697
>mine is perfectly in step with the good nature of ponies
Not really since you dont think that good nature is anything but being lovey dovey all the time. Cadance stopped ponies from acting how they wanted to act in a pretty beign situation. Ponies who can already fall in love and make up without her help.
>The sun and moon does not need to move
They do in Equestria, that is how you get the day and night cycles, which are pretty important for all life.
>The act of mortals imposing their will is the very definition of an unnatural act.
But Luna and Celestia arent mortals, that is sort of the point.
>The natural state of Equestria would be a planet of half day and half night
Nothing in the show supports this.
And this is all irrelevant. The main issue with Cadance and all other later introduced alicorns is that they cheapen what an alicorn is.
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>>43413056
If this show never aired the world would 100% be in a 10x worse shape.
MLP FIM has done an unbelievable amount of good to this world.
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>>43436632
>not really
Ponies consider Cadence and her magic to be good. It's not like what she does is secret. So yes really.
>Day and night cycles are important to equestria
Unnatural and headcanon.
>the sisters are immortal
Headcanon.
>Nothing in the show supports a world without ponies is the natural world.
t. pony
>And this is all irrelevant.
I disagree.
>The main issue with Cadance and all other later introduced alicorns is that they cheapen what an alicorn is.
Yeah. Outside of fanfiction, they were already pretty cheap before Cadence hit the scene.
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>>43433659
>where they all gaslight Ber for being
Wait, why where you capitalizing 'her'?
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I think retards who think they are going to equestria by suicide or dying are some of the dumbest most deranged mother fuckers to live, i know people that hate hasbro yet CRAVE going to a place INVENTED BY THEM
>but l-lauren
SHE WAS HIRED. BY. HASBRO. YOU FUCKING DIPSHITS.
YOU ARENT GOING TO ANYWHERE WHEN YOU DIE, HELL IS EARTH AND WE ARE GOING TO REINCARNATE OVER AND OVER AGAIN UNTIL SHIT CHANGES. FUCK YOU 'MUST GO TO EQUESTRIA' FAGS
THE PONIES WOULDNT LIKE ANYONE FROM 4CHAN ANYWAYS SO WHY BOTHER
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>>43437743
>THE PONIES WOULDNT LIKE ANYONE FROM 4CHAN ANYWAYS SO WHY BOTHER
are you sure about that? I know one that wouldn't mind that
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>>43437743
>HE PONIES WOULDNT LIKE ANYONE FROM 4CHAN ANYWAYS
Spike is a snarky asshole and a dorknerd. There's Gallus and Ember, more snarky assholes. Ocellus is anti-authoritarian enough to impersonate an authority figure. And, of course, there's Discord. Shit. He'd probably set us up with a communication system to facilitate our chaos-cultivating antics. We'll be a bunch of Discordfags. ^:(
We'll fit right in.
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>>43437743
>Barbieflaggot calls others deranged
>proceeds to have a mental breakdown
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>>43438208
3/4ths of your post aren't canon though
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>>43437743
I'm going to Equestria to hang out with mares while you go to a shitty high school with the ugliest fucking girls!
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>>43438587
>The only ones canon are Ocellus and Gallus's butt.
Where an I supposed to draw the line between "things made by Hasbro" and "things made by Hasbro" to decide canonicity?
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>>43425078
Sorry, most original cast were largely written out of the show for nuwriter OCs. Please understand!
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>>43438600
>>43438571
>>43438208
>>43437899
You are either being sent to g5 or pony life world, none of you are good enough for the real equestria. Suck my fat futa cock.
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>>43434518
>that one song the students sing on the episode about the tree of harmony, it's the only song in the entirety of G4 that I never saw a single remix of
Faulty has you covered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYKNfeAF8GY
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>>43439454
>Student Six remix
What wasted talent.
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>>43438208
>Shit. He'd probably set us up with a communication system to facilitate our chaos-cultivating antics
so an ecker instance?
>We'll be a bunch of Discordfags. ^:(
I don't know if it's worse than the dedicated spamming software
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>>43439454
Well, it still sucks but at least now I know I can proudly proclaim that every single song in the show has at least one remix to their name
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>>43413056
Most people are only here for the pornography and it shows. I wish more people watched the show.
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>>43436925
>Ponies consider Cadence and her magic to be good. It's not like what she does is secret. So yes really.
The very same ponies who are brainwashed by her so that point is moot. You are just denying what is literally on screen.
>Unnatural and headcanon
Again, denying what we are shown
>Yeah. Outside of fanfiction, they were already pretty cheap before Cadence hit the scene.
And the introduction of Cadance, completely out of the blue, with no clear natural function, destroyed any avenues at expanding on them.
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>>43439538
I watched the show, that's why I'm here for the pornography.
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>>43440033
Twilight and every bystander that watched that spell, plus every citizen that knows she's the princess of love because she has love powers, is brainwashed? Okay, that's dystopian.
>I'm denying what's shown
Agree to disagree. You see ponies imposing their will as a natural force. I don't.
>cadence destroyed any avenues at expanding on them.
Come on, adding Cupid to the pantheon doesn't ruin all that epic roman mythology. Lauren gave up and quit early, but Celestia in her bible was meant to be a mysterious character. It's part of her allure. Demystifying the alicorns will always be a let down. Even if Faust stayed to expand on Sun and Moon lore in the best possible way to your satisfaction while giving Cadence's duties a clear and logical explanation, you'd still hate it for being different.
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>>43434743
>Growing Up Is Hard To Do
That episode is probably in my top 5 worst episodes of the entire series.
Such an insulting send off to the CMC.
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>Pony is, by every possible definition, furry and anyone saying otherwise is coping hard.
>The series finale was a 6/10 and its worse problem was the pacing.
>Cozy got what she deserved. Being a child does not excuse yourself from consequences.
>Pinkie Keen is a fun, slapstick comedy episode that neckbeards to this day seethe over for no reason.
>The moralfags were right and if the degeneracy had been policed and squashed back in 2013 the fandom would be larger and healthier today and the overall quality of fan works would be better.
>Twilight does not dye her mane.
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>>43440845
>Pony is, by every possible definition, furry and anyone saying otherwise is coping hard.
Furry arts are dominantly bipedal human with animal characteristic. This shit is banned here.
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>>43440845
>Twilight does not dye her mane.
DO WE REALLY HAVE TO GET INTO THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN?
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>>43440935
It'll be a switch from the "do ponies eat meat?" debate.
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>>43413056
Rarity episodes did not hold up any better than any other characters, Rarifags just gaslight everyone into thinking her later episodes were alright.
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>Pony is, by every possible definition, furry and anyone saying otherwise is coping hard.
Something interesting I noticed is that there were a lot of old school furries in the fandom, especially in the earlier seasons. People that had been in the furry fandom since the eighties and early nineties and had sort of faded into the background by the early 2000s.
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>>43441221
I'm not even a Rarifag, but she definitely had the least shit episodes and characterization over the entire run out of all the mane six. It wasn't really until season six that she started to suffer, much later than the others, and it wasn't absolutely horrific until much later.
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>>43441221
This just reminded me that there's no Rarity thread. Grim!
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>>43441459
Never recovered after G^ dropped
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>>43441459
Talking about actual canon ponies and related subjects on /mlp/ is like talking about video games on /v/.
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>>43440845
>the fandom would be larger and healthier today and the overall quality of fan works would be better [without early porn].
Do moralfags really tell themselves this? Those filtered by porn are minuscule and mentally unstable. The majority of fans are wired to burn out fast and jump fads. All of your quality bronies of old are drawing anime, chungus pomnis, and gameoverse porn now.
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>>43441454
She also doesn't even have a season 3 episode though.
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>>43441459
>>43441487
How have they been handling the news? Applefags seem fine, but they're pretty used to it I think.
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>>43442323
Who gives a fuck about season 3? It had like four episodes worth watching while the rest were painfully mediocre or boring.
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>>43442827
Well, it's easier to say a character has better episodes overall when they straight up have fewer episodes as a result of getting none in a whole season.
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>>43442844
>whole season
It was a half season. Anyway, if we want to see where Rarity stands, somebody should post that applefag's chart with m6 screen time proving that Rainbow Dash is the actual background pony.
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>>43442947
This one?
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>>43442844
Do you remember to snap the strap on your helmet when you put it on?
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>>43442947
How can dashie be a bgp when she auramoggs everypony in every frame shes in
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>>43442964
Oh right, it only focused on the first two seasons. Yeah that one. I guess that doesn't measure whether Rarity lost out in the long run with season 3.
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>>43443027
It's just from the wikis page of character appearances, you can see them pretty easily in full yourself.
https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Character_appearances
Applejack is funnily enough a pretty high appearance rate until season 6 and 7, though ALL the m6 fall off in appearances hard in season 7. It's insane how past season 5 the charts go from being mostly green, to suddenly being a lot more spotty.
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I actually made a graph program (as a class project) to display M6 appearances by season & type.
Should take a base screenshot and then take additional screenshots based on what data y'all want to see.
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>>43413056
The RD episodes everyone liked are incredibly overrated. The RD episodes that were always written off as horrible are her best episodes.
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>>43443708
You're overrated, fuck off. Dash is the best.
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>>43444432
>Mysterious Mare Do Well
>Daring Don't
>Rainbow Falls
>Trade Ya!
>Newbie Dash
>28 Pranks Later
>Parental Glideance
>Secrets And Pies arguably
Not a great track record
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Fluttershy episodes > twilight episodes > Pinkie eps > Rarity = AJ = RD
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>>43444505
Fluttershy episodes have Discord so she's an automatic 0 on the episode ratings list.
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>>43413056
Josh Haber gets way to much hate because people demand a singular scapegoat for the show's decline in quality. It's not his fault
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>>43445351
i think half of it is from his headshot picture being really funny looking
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>>43445351
people forget that he had to bow to the corporate overlords to get them to sign on literally every episode before production begins properly.

which leads me to my hot take

FIM was trash and I hated most of it. there were some moments in some episodes that were entertaining, but the fandom is where the good stuff is. I love the fan-made entertainment surrounding FIM, especially the memes. the fanmade memes are why I'm a brony. I couldn't care less about the corporate cartoon pRoDuCt tho.
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>>43445388
>He's willingly missing out on snowpity
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>>43445396
that's a fanmade meme so no
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>>43445351
I'll grant that Haber had a few pretty good episodes like Bloom & Gloom, To Where and Back Again and It Isn't the Mane Thing About You. The rest of his contributions are still mostly either boring rehashes of past arcs, worldbuilding destruction or pure laziness.
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>>43444467
people hate 28 pranks later, but dash was actually pretty funny for most of it. I think her pranking flutteshy should have been what made everyone turn on her instead of the inciting incident.

secret and pies is funny until the ending. she should have been forced to make up for all the pies she got rid of by eating an equal number of them on the spot
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>>43445403
Ironic. Snowpity was reappreciation for simpler s1 times, when the pRoDuCt was celebrated by bronies, but the meme has been watered down to be any subjectively cute pony thing.
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>43445388
>fag of the fandumb
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>>43413056
AJ has the most consistently good episodes in the series, and it's insane that her episodes are considered subpar when every other character has so much worse, and she has some of the most acclaimed.
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>>43445351
People used to shit on Jim as well but I think everyone kind of realized he's not worth getting worked up for, and allegedly he argued for no ships to be confirmed in the epilogue, which makes me feel bad for shitting on him
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>>43445351
He LOVES capshit and it fucking shows during season premiere/finale.
Otherwise if what Larson claimed about most new writers giving zero fly about the show was correct, the show was a sinking ship either way.
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>>43445553
how do you know? the earliest mention of "snowpity" that I could find is https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/36890316
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>>43445921
Most episodes that should star Applejack either uses her as an antagonist or alongside show stealers. That's not to say I don't like a lot of these episodes:
>Over A Barrel
Twilight and Pinkie play heroic voices of reason. Dash unlocks a side quest saving spike and helping the buffalo. While Dash is shown caring the most about putting a stop to a fight they pushed, AJ completely disappears from the battle. Worst case of wasting the cowboy episode on everything but the cowgirl.
>The Last Roundup
Twilight and friends episode vs antagonist AJ. Derpy setting the fandom on fire at the time was the cherry on top.
>Apple Family Reunion
It's just hard to watch her be cringe at family, and leaves me wishing for more Apples being given actual character.
>Bats!
Fluttershy episode. Antagonist AJ.
>Simple Ways
Some good AJ hidden in a Rarity episode
>Somepony To Watch Over Me
Apple Bloom episode. Antagonist AJ
>Appleloosa's Most Wanted
cmc episode. Antagonist AJ
>Hearthbreakers
Pie sisters mog while Apples are put in the wrong.
>The Mane Attraction
Coloratura mogs. Outside of a flashback, AJ does nothing but stand around and talk sense while Twilight, Pinkie, Rarity, and the cmc do everything.
>Applejack's Day Off
Insulting when contrasted with the worst AJ episode, Honest Apple.
>Buckball Season
Pinkie Pie mogs. Antagonist AJ
>Campfire Tales and The Perfect Pair
Backgrounded for bigger stories being told.
That leaves: Look Before You Sleep, Fall Weather Friends (AJ did nothing wrong), Pinkie Apple Pie, Leap of Faith, Made in Manehattan, Where The Apple Lies, Sounds of Silence, and Going to Seed as good episodes starring AJ in an overall good light. 5/8 of those are split with another m6 co-star. The girl just isn't allowed to be a solo star like the rest of the m6.
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>>43447228
>The girl just isn't allowed to be a solo star like the rest of the m6.
To be fair, I feel like this is part of my thing. She catches tons of flack for the whole "I didn't learn anything!" line, yet, both of Raritys season 1 episodes would have ended with the exact same line if she had been the one writing the letters. Same thing with every other character in half of their episodes. If characters "not learning anything" is supposed to be a bad thing, then AJ inarguably has everyone else beat, as she easily has the least amount of episodes like that. It seems to me like her episodes are only considered subpar by people because she's held to a weirdly higher standard than everyone else. Other characters get a pass for "good episode" for way less, and aspects that are derided in her episodes (again, "I was right all along!") get heaps of praise when it's about another character.
Basically, from a characterization perspective, her episodes being like this means she really had way more development than anyone else, who just get patted on the head for being the way they are.

But yea, everyone else definitely got treated with kid gloves way harder and AJ was never really allowed to just be correct in a situation. Even episodes like Fall Weather Friends, where like you said she doesn't really do anything wrong and is obviously the victim, yet she's still treated as being in the wrong.
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>>43438600
kek based
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>>43447228
You forgot Super Cider Squeezy 6000.
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>>43413056
A good 90% of the 'people' involved in it could be flayed alive and crucified and it would only improve matters.
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I hate Fluttercord

Not a very hot take here I know but in the general fandom it is
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>>43413056
Most of the mane 6 are pretty mediocre friends. Only like two of them are generally good, the rest of them I honestly probably wouldn't care that much about maintaining a friendship with.
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>>43447145
It's all associated with the same broad mareschizo meme spam. "Mares mares snowpity I love them, mares, kind spirits, they're so pretty, snowpity, MARES!" Found abundantly in every background pony thread that was all the rage, and the snowponies made with that attitude in mind had coincidental crossover for sharing snow in the name. Kind spirits is hype for how nice and happy all the background ponies.

Yes, any fag of the fagdom can claim snowpity was technically a meaningless autocorrect/esl/fingerbox moment and apply it to your unique pony setting full of ocs , but you're going to look like the others back then trying to force mareschizoing over g5 and the student 6 and whatever else that didn't flow with the post-show back-to-roots renaissance.
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>>43442796
yeah applebros have been tanking the "bg pony lol" shitposting for years at this point
rararfags need to harden their hearts
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>>43445480
>people hate 28 pranks later, but dash was actually pretty funny for most of it. I think her pranking flutteshy should have been what made everyone turn on her instead of the inciting incident.
"her pranking fluttershy" is already a huge problem that shouldn't even be part of the script
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Rarity should have never existed. Instead, the pilot should have concluded with Princess Luna joining the Mane Six to correct the error of her ways.
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>>43449415
Monkey's paw curls: Starlight is Celestia's sister in season 1.
In seriousness though, it makes more sense for Luna to replace Twilight.
-starry night themed unicorn
-uptight, serious, snarky, lacks social skill and grace, knowledgeable of arcane history and magic.
-Obsessed with pleasing and spending time with Celestia
-Writes friendship lesson homework as penance
-Is a princess or will eventually earn that title (could earn back her wings, that way ascension is tied to reformation, Woona becomes Luna s2.0)
Their overlapping and compatible combined traits are uncanny. I would miss having an imposing and mysterious queen of the night character though.
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>>43413056
Rainbow Dash is the most superfluous member of the cast. Applejack fulfills the same archetype and roles but better, and would have had a more interesting role than Dash in the arcs she was given. Imagine before Scootaloo was given parents out of the blue and people thought she was an orphan, and her potential interactions with the similarly orphaned Applejack. There's a sea of possibilities there that was never present with Rainbow.
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>>43450370
Well they need someone to be an unrepentant cunt, and Rarity gets away with it too much to fit the same role
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Writefags have decided that writing novel-length fanfics is better than writing actual greentexts, and the only way an anon should treat one is like how the Romans treated actors.
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I didn't think The Mane Attraction was all that great. Just a very middling episode about muh poor Hollywood celebs.
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>>43451008
Pinke Pie is an Applewood celeb?
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>>43451008
I don't think anyone has ever said The Mane Attraction is great, most people see it with certain fondness as the final episode written by AKR
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>>43445388
>I hate the show but I love the fandom btw
Go fuck yourself.
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>>43451008
Are there people who think that it's that great?
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>>43449558
>starry night themed unicorn
>uptight, serious, snarky, lacks social skill and grace, knowledgeable of arcane history and magic.
>obsessed with pleasing and spending time with Celestia
Yes, yes, and yes. One is good, two would be even better!
>is a princess or will eventually earn that title
That's where they'd diverge most, and it'd be a great message: while Twilight remains a librarian, Luna goes on to become a full-fledged princess once again, each content with their own lot in life.
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>All the shit threads get bumped at the same time
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>>43453777
so /aie/ got bumped.
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They should have gotten back together
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>>43454408
Why did they create him if they didn't want to do anything with him?
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>>43453777
>Jumbo Don
>>43453783
Nothing wrong with that
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>>43455779
/AiE/ is a shit thread. Literal dead general with bump imagebumps by 1 person.
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>>43455913
It's good.
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>>43455556
The first Equestria Girls was supposed to just be a one-off, and he was written as a love interest solely for that movie. And when they decided make EQG a whole franchise they clearly had no clue what to do with him cause obviously they couldn't have him actually get with Twilight
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>>43457436
There seemed to be a mandate blocking pony boyfriends and romance entirely for FIM's heroes. Despite her fangasming over the Wonderbolts, Rainbow unbelievably doesn't have any signs of crushing over a single one, like, no swooning or hunky posters in her room. Discord is only ever said to be Fluttershy's "friend". Rarity is the only one allowed to be romantic, but gets bad taste in stallions and unrequited love from a baby dragon. AJ and PP might as well be asexual blobs. It doesn't feel believable.
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>>43457436
Flash got shafted for Timber bloke in LoE. Should have been more like Total Drama Island had they wanted to commit to romance in the "human" world.
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>>43457575
One could argue RD was fangirling a bit over Wind Rider in Rarity Investigates, but that was pretty brief and ambiguous.
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>>43457680
>>43457575
There was also her flying off with a pair of wonderbolts that one time. But yea, it's kinda weird how Rarity is really the only one ever shown wanting a relationship.
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>>43413056
It got popular because the fandom got popular. The show was never good enough alone.
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>>43458965
That's how everything gets popular. Nothing is ever good enough alone. Yes, even Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Pokemon.
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>>43459314
>>43458965
Honestly, MLP and bronies was kinda flash in the pan compared to Star Wars or Pokemon.
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There was nothing wrong with Flash Sentry being a love interest for Twilight Sparkle. The autistic screeching of the fans sealed his fate as an eternal loser.
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>>43450370
RD is the most important character in the show, but her greatest achievement was when she was a filly, which kinda makes her look shitty on top of being kind of retarded
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>>43460292
It's also the crown jewel of mary sue moments. You could not give that backstory to a fanfiction oc without everyone writing off your story as trash. Twilight already gets flack for being a mary sue, and I guarantee if Twilight had been the one to give every one else their cuie marks, everyone would be crying from the mountain tops how much of a mary sue she is. So RD's greatest contribution is being a blatant writers pet with one of the most mary sue backstories you can think of.
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>>43459314
Another thing with this fandom is how irony poisoned and damn near or surpassing reddit surpassing levels of ignorant. Like i get that its dying but have some dignity.
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HVOP is basically an admission that someone is incapable of appreciating mares in their natural forms. You're already getting off to a colorful pony one that's not even realistic so pearl clutching about needing a human pussy on it is just bizarre. Really it's only one or two pegs above being an anthrofag sticking a pony head on a human body.
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>>43460810
The only reason anyone could possibly prefer HVOP is so there's no tire-shaped anus for artists to enlarge for their stupid fucking fetish.
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>>43460830
>auuuugh save me from the Goodyear ponuts, niggerman
lol
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>>43460810
>>43460830
your moms a hvop
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>>43460810
>admission that someone is incapable of appreciating mares in their natural forms
I'll freely admit that any time, any day. The disdain and pearl clutching over cartoonish marshmellow-cat-ponies from zoofags in the marshmellow-cat fandom is what's bizarre.
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>>43460862
Uh oh esl hvopfag melty
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>>43460870
>thirdie can't comprehend a sentence with two missing commas
Isn't your wife outside eating grass right now?
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>>43460887
>He thinks it was just the commas
Oh nononononono
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>>43460892
Ah, mallow. Thanks, my friend, or bot, full of canned zoomer responses.
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>>43413305
No way.
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>>43457575
Did you forget?
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>>43462364
Cheese's colors are so fucking ugly.
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>>43462364
But that was shoehorned into the last episode with zero buildup. Cheese was only in 2 episodes ever prior. Absolutely zero romantic buildup.
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>>43460332
newfags were born too late to know what dignity means, which is why everything got as bad as it is now.
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>>43462364
me on the right
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>>43413056
it's over
won't be coming back
but we live on
it's ours now
we can make it whatever we want, but it's up to us specifically
waiting, hoping and wanting is pointless
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>>43413056
Ponified EqG would've been cool.
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Remember when EQG 1 was My Little Pony: the Movie? It deserves that title way more than the 2017 movie. It felt much more like an actual event, and it was actually connected to Twilight's character arc while still being it's own self contained story. And everyone was actually in character. And the tone felt more like season 1 than anything else after the season 2 premiere. It's an absolute classic. If anything, EQG 1 should be called My Little Pony: the Movie, whereas the rest of EQG should just be called the Equestria Girls series. And the 2017 movie should be called My Little Pony: the Movie 2.
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>>43463833
Checking this post for pure hope.
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>>43413056
the normies that condemn degeneracy in the fandom are the same one that do rainbow dash cum jar jokes, effectively setting the community back
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>>43465678
No, the 2017 movie shouldn't be called My Little Pony> the movie 2, it should be called a piece of shit
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>>43465678
>It's an absolute classic
Delusional. I can agree that the characters were more themselves compared to 2017, but the passage of time and another bad corporate release don't suddenly change the fact that the writing is lazy and contrived as hell. They're both like a 5/10 for different reasons.
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>>43465691
???
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>>43466379
Kill yourself fat negro. The writing was LITERALLY perfect, and if it wasn't you have would have stayed at least one flaw that it has but you can't. Idiot. Fucking substantiate your claims retard. Lazy or contrived in what fucking way? Nah you're just too fucking stupid to do it. I know you're not even gonna try. Just like, die. That's all you should do. Fuck you.
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>>43466009
The reason why I suggested it be considered a sequel is I was basically using the same logic of how Puss in Boots the Last Wish was a sequel to Puss in Boots 1. I mean, it is so fucking different that you could consider it something else entirely, like a reboot, or you could just simply call it an evolution and leave it at that. 2017 might not be better than EQG, but they at least tried a new art style and tried to make it LotR for girls. They tried to make it something new and better. Honestly they probably only failed because of corporate influence, if I had to guess.
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bump
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>>43467713
>The writing was LITERALLY perfect
It wasn't. It was a generic High School Musical rip-off filled with stupid contrivances, embarrassingly bad comedy, nonsensical changes in tone at the last minute and poorly thought out explanations both to the characters and audience alike.
This spin-off should've stayed as a one-time thing only yet barbiefags are so low standards they got Hasbro to produce three other movies, a bunch of specials and two seasons of a show. I still remember bronies saying that Rainbow Rocks was a terrible idea back in 2014.
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>>43467727
I think some of the Hasbro gigaleaks showed the behind the scenes of the movie, it was supposed to be released back in 2013, but constant executive meddling delayed the project back and made the movie that was supposed to tell the origin story of the princesses transform into travel adventure featuring famous VAs and their furry OCs. If you find it, it's very interesting, and also infuriating
>>43468551
So your "arguments" boil down to
>I'M MAD >:(
Great to see your kind still has the intellectual prowess of a college football fan
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>>43469341
>siding with the obvious flaggot troll
grim
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>>43469345
What side you retard? You can't explain shit, all you did is rant like a sonicfag and expect everyone to praise you for your intellectual prowess
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>>43469349
>implying i'm the same anon
AAAHAHAHAHAA
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>>43469352
Then you wouldn't be offended because I called you a retard, retard
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>>43469362
>laughing = offended
i just don't have the heart to call you a retard
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>>43469341
And yours boil down to
>I SUCK DICK >:)
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>>43469349
I think you might be talking to a bot. Since indians haven't learned the word "substantiate" yet, neither has ai.
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>>43469345
>Anon thinks that showing your love for Twilight Sparkle is considered a bad thing on /mlp/
Holy shit how new are you?
>b-bit the anononimitee!!!1
I'm still fucking anonymous, see. In fact, you don't even know I'm the same guy who was using the Twi flag. I'm telling you I am but you don't know that. On the other hand, I could be every other anon in this fucking thread since they removed the ip counter, which you're too new to know about. But the point is, if you apply any amount of fucking logic I'm still anonymous. And guess what faggot? I use different flags all the time. You see a Golly? It could be me. You see a barbie? Probably me. Tirek? Aria? Nah they're ALL me. I'd even use Flash Sentry if they had his ass as a flag, because I think he's the shit. The point is, regardless of flags you're never gonna know who you're talking to.
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>>43413056
Y'all need to be put on watchlists, and if that's already the case, enhanced surveilance.
actually, just straight up gangstalking. fuck you, y'all are creeps, losers and pedos
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>>43419670
Sweetieking, I love YOU. That's right, (you)!!
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>>43471080
The last ten or so people that called me a pedophile turned out to be ones themselves.
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>>43471034
As much as I wanna believe you, I've seen stupid people like that before, and as much as I wanna believe in the Dead Internet Theory, most people are just that uninteresting
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The fact that there's more pictures of Thorax than Braeburn in the stallion thread proves that faggots have bad taste.
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>>43471606
Nah. What it proves is that they are bug-chasers.
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>>43459314
>Yes, even Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Pokemon (the anime)
Those three had good writing and worldbuilding though. MLP's main appeal was its artstyle and easily OC-able designs in a generic fantasy sandbox that can be rewritten in anyway, Roblox for autists.
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>>43448644
The problem with the m6 is that they're cartoon archetypes first, friends second. Great for funny cartoon interactions, although somewhat predictable, but sadly we get very little sense of their underlying friendship that we're told they have earned through the elements. The way they act is just the way they'd act with anypony, friend or not.
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>>43471728
FiM failed at extended lore and worldbuilding, but it had solid foundations going for it. The legend of the Mare in the Moon, the Sonic Rainboom, the Everfree Forest, Ponyville and all its locations, people keep coming back to it and it's not just because of the appealing art style. Faust's work had a major impact on the role of cuteness in pop culture and created the genre of "cute characters in a big world that are also sometimes badass" that shows up from time to time.

And the music in FiM is fantastic. Fandom wouldn't have been what it became without Ingram.
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>>43471852
>but it had solid foundations going for it
I'm not sure how exactly solid it is but I agree nonetheless (i think certain aspects being shaky ironically had a positive impact like Luna's silly unrealistic backstory inspiring many to make something better). Equestria was an amazing sandbox for the imagination to play in.
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I liked Non-Compete Clause
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>>43471971
I bet you liked Trivial Pursuit too, creature lover.
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>>43471975
Fluttershy is a creature lover
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>>43471975
Horses are creatures too so I'm already creature inclined. I enjoy cartoons and games that feature non-humans.
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>>43471971
I go the opposite direction. I think Fall Weather Friends is just as bad as Non-Compete Clause.
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>>43471971
>people complain about endangering kids here
>but not when twilight mind rapes kids and half the town that almost ends in them killing each other over a doll if celestia never intervened
Why is this?
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>>43472860
Who is going around saying that the Want-It-Need-It spell was a good thing?
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No, I don't think I will.
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>>43472991
They excuse Twilight endangering others but not Appledash.
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>>43473112
>>43472860
Unironically it's because of dashfags. A very large portion of this fanbase were dashfags, and they absolutely despised any episode that portrayed her in a negative light. The only acceptable dash episodes to them were the ones that were sucking her off for being awesome, and if it was about anything else, it was hated.
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>>43473112
I never watched whatever s8 or 9 trash that was, but I don't think many anons defend Lesson Zero here since it was the first instance of Twilight's neuroticism being flanderized.
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>>43473235
>I don't think many anons defend Lesson Zero
I haven't seen a single anon do it which only restores a very little bit of hope I have in this board.
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>>43413056
/mlp/ is not as nice as I thought it would be now, and most of the older, longer-lasting friendships and communities feel gated now.

It's all mares now. Never as many stallions.

I wish I was a brony 15 years ago...
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>>43472860
That episode was better when it was starlight doing it
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>>43472860
Whenever people complain about Lesson Zero, especially when comparing to similar episodes, they forget some important things:
-There's a reasonable amount of build-up to understand WHY she resorted to such drastic measure
-They do not reward her shitty behavior with questionable implications
-It is actually fun the way they portrayed her madness, both visually and writing-wise
But this a pony discussion, so nuance is the last thing you get when talking about why certain character's actions are justified while others are not, which is why glimmerfags are the most unbearable users in any part of the fandom.
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>>43474153
>reasonable amount of build-up
How does aimlessly looking around for "friendship problems" result in mind raping children? Was Twilight in postpartum, did she take any drugs? It was just homework, not a real problem that would traumatize her.
>They do not reward her shitty behavior
Her friends defended her shitty behavior and she was awarded less homework now that her friends can do it for her and she never had to apologize to any of her victims.
>It is actually fun the way they portrayed her madness, both visually and writing-wise
Disagree, it's OOC, completely flanderized her. Twilight would never resort to such a crime especially over something so stupidly petty AND all she literally had to do was write the fabricated story in the letter to solve her problem, there was no need to premeditate carefully stalking children to mind rape.
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>>43413056
I like the student 6.
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>>43474293
>Was Twilight in postpartum, did she take any drugs?
I can't believe she was acquitted of raping those three fillies
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>>43474293
>>43474153
At least Twilight was visibly disturbed and not in the best state of mind. Meanwhile Dash is just being Dash as usual.
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>>43474153
lesson zero twilight is cute :)
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>>43474153
I'm a Glimking, and I have literally never once talked about whether or not anything any character ever did was justified. In fact I've never seen another Glimmyking ever talk about that or care about that. So like, what are you talking about bro? The fuck did we do to you?
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>>43476130
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>>43476130
>The fuck did we do to you?
You picked the one hot pink pony that isn't Pinkie...
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>>43476130
Here's an objectively true hot take. Twilight, and the show as a whole, became too boring when she became too mature to use her magic irresponsibly and cause chaos in town. So Glimmer was the only possible cure.
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>>43476149
>The Student Six revitalized the show.
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>>43476145
Starlight ain't pink, retard. But I get it. I used to be a Ponkking before season 7. She deserves more recognition, she's one of the best.
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>>43476130
you literally did nothing wrong. there were spammer trolls many years ago that spammed the boards using images of the pony they disliked so that tricked and traumatized some of the users into randomly hating the real fans.
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>I-It wasn't us lol..i-it was t-those other g-glimmykings!! really though!! hahaha!
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>>43476314
>Starlight ain't pink, retard.
Starlight is the color of heliotrope, which is pink-purple, RETARD
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>>43476755
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the masturboopers and reactionary trolls like >43476137 are the same people.
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>>43476763
Starlight is lilac which is slightly more purple than pink, you can check the values yourself. She is technically a purple pony.
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>>43474294
I don't, I just appreciate Ocellus
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Not specifically pony, but AI art has really exposed how shit most artist truly are.
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If I were to end in Ponyville, there's a bigger chance of making friends than finding love, knowing my autism I would probably end up friendzoned by most mares.
And If I were there, I most likely would end up spending most of my time with Spike and have him as my best friend, he likes to read comics, play DnD, and knows what it is to not be a pony but fall in love for one, besides he seems like a chill guy.
Everyone here always thinks on "if I were in Equestria, I would date X", but they never think "if I were in Equestria, my best friend would be Y".
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>>43440845
The fandom is larger and healthier than any of its contemporary cartoons'
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>>43478013
Yeah most Anons don't think about who they might actually make friends with, and just assume it'll be the M6. Like how many Anons think they'll end up being friends with Caramel or Goldengrape?
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>>43478013
People don't wanna hear how I wanna introduce the concept of sports podcast into Equestria alongside Big Mac and maybe Rainbow Dash
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>>43478987
>podcast
Yeah that's gay.
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>>43478013
For me it's delving into a headcanon about Equestria (planet) being Earth after an extinction level event, and ponies discovering our former civilization.
>The damming of a river in Vanhoover causes water levels to drop, revealing the Ramses II monument
>Griffon traders heading to a far flung outpost at their lands borders discover a large sign reading "H LLY D"
>Big Ben juts out of the sand on a beach in Polyneighsia
>The statue of Christ The Redeemer stands watch over the first system of Diamond Dog burrows
>A Pegasii Weather Control unit finds towering structures of glass and metal in previously uncharted sky
>Changelings excavating for a new hive in the Badlands finds large metal tubes resembling some sort of streamlined transport
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>>43414854
>the whole school idea failed because one pony did not learn anything there
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Cozy Glow's design fucking sucks
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>>43480201
TRUKE
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>>43476314
>Starlight ain't pink, retard.
You're actually the biggest fucking retard on the planet if you unironically think she's purple.
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>>43416153
I'll go a step further.
Shining Armor shouldn't have been Twilight's sister. The Crystal Empire should've been just a city of Equestria. The entire ACW plot should've taken place at the crystal city instead of Canterlot, away from any presence of the princesses or royal guards.
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>>43480587
>Shining Armor shouldn't have been Twilight's sister
g-guh?
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>>43480587
>Shining Armor shouldn't have been Twilight's sister
I agree with this. I think it makes much more sense for her character if Twilight is an only child
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Unsure if hot or not. The modern fandom is too wrapped up in nostalgia and hating things. In those olden days we are all so nostalgic for, people were creating out of love, regardless of judgement. The culture had not been solidified. But now? We're all stuck in our ways. Everyone is so eager to criticize without creating. Everyone refuses to put in the work.
(You) all need to make something new. Celebrating the old is all well and good, and criticizing the bad has its place, but what keeps us all alive is the birth of the new. Make some goofy animations. Share them. Make friends and build community. We're all too goddamned jaded and critical.
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/mlpol/ niggers are just as obnoxious as the furfags and the trixie trannies, you are eternal election tourists and board quality would improve infinitely if you all killed yourselves.
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>>43474293
>How does aimlessly looking around for "friendship problems" result in mind raping children?
It results in it by running out of time and getting desperate to have a conflict to resolve so she can write a letter to Celestia. It's not just her "looking around for friendship problems", it's the fact that she can't find any and that slowly drives her mad until she snaps.
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>>43482713
Is premeditated rape really a typical and reasonable reaction to being late for homework?
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>>43482713
>don't have enough gacha currency to reach pity
>all-in on banner anyway
>don't get any SSRs
>shocked_pikachu_face.jpg
thought this bitch was supposed to be smart desuka
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>>43483257
S1 Bird in Hoof did it right.
Fluttershy literally committed a crime stealing the royal bird. So it was a consequential issue. Celestia is known to banish criminals so it makes sense that Twilight would assume jail and/or banishment. Twilight wanted to protect her friend so it was very noble of her to shield her from the royal guards even if it made her an accomplice to Fluttershy's crime. that was a very reasonable freakout to protect her friend.

LZ is pure nonsense from Twilight's hallucination that has no bearing on reality, no one fucking believes after all the wholesome scenes with Celestia in S1 that she'd send a pony back to kindergarten over a trivial ass homework assignment. S2 writers can't even fucking watch the first season.
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>>43483290
I feel like Winter Wrap Up is a better comparison for Twilight resorting to magic as a solution when she's not supposed to.
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>>43484403
WWU involved magic but it doesn't have Twilight crashing out and has a bit weaker motivation. Twi had no business thinking she could do a job meant for stallions and AJ should've been responsible enough to not let her try in the first place.
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>>43484495
>Twi had no business thinking she could do a job meant for stallions
She didn't go into plowing thinking that she'd be able to 'do it'. She was desperate to try anything to help, and by that point, her resolve to not use magic had been broken down. The whole point of the episode is her fighting ('crashing out') to not use unicorn magic. She says so in the song.
WWU is a great example of why Twilight shouldn't just default to using her unicorn magic. Some situations need everypony to come together and work as a team (something else she's able to get them to recognise). Of course it would be quicker if they just did it the Canterlot way, like Spike says, but that's missing the whole point. It's about coming together as team(s) and as a community.
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>>43484758
>She was desperate to try anything to help
Then do a simple task any mare can do like shovel snow off doorsteps, not plow a field of snow only stallions can do.
>The whole point of the episode is her fighting ('crashing out') to not use unicorn magic
She never fought against any urge until the moment of. There was no crashout in this episode.
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>>43440845
>Twilight does not dye her mane.
This is how I know you're just lying to farm (You)s
>>43440935
What is there to discuss? She is literally shown getting highlights on screen with implements used specifically for adding streaks of highlight to hair in a canon season. Then it was explicitly mentioned in a scandal tabloid in case you're too oblivious to notice. Plus she was originally designed without highlights.
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>>43484829
you're going to convince me a 7 year old was dying her mane?
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>>43484829
muslim sparkle inshallah
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>>43413056
>hot takes
A lot of the later episodes are actually good. Except any of the creature episodes fuck those.
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>>43485211
Even the kirin, nonny...?
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>>43484836
Yes
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>>43462364
>alt time line
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>>43413056
The show is not that great. Season one was not that bad it set some really good ground rules for the universe it took place in. But, what makes pony stuff fun is the fandom.
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>>43485230
Pinkie, yes even the Kirin. Lil Cheese is cute btw
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>>43413056
The fact there's an EQG yuri thread proves this board has fallen so fucking low
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>>43486117
The fact you're allowed to post proves this board has fallen so fucking low by not making this anon get raped 24/7 by 18 naked cowboy stallions at appleloosa ranch
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>>43486117
How did /mlp/ even allow barbie to co-opt the board? What happened to gatekeeping? Did any patriots ever try spamming their threads to shit, or did the jannies protect them? Why are all of our jannies off-boarders?
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>>43486225
Twimod said barbies were allowed on the board and the only /mlp/ janny will only accept reports from those threads and ignore anything else if it isnt anthro, nsfw or racism.
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>>43486225
The jannies fucking love barbieslop for some reason. I got warned for trolling the last time I pointed out how one was very obviously a slide thread. It didn't even last the day, so it WAS a slide thread.



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