Welcome to Chatbot AI General #188, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipbonziPONY: https://github.com/maresmaresmares/bonziPONY!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTPony TTS app supporting SillyTavern: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>43398466**News:**- New Deepseek V4 Flash, new V4 pro soon™ https://api-docs.deepseek.com/updates/- Kimi K3 weights released https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3- Opus 5 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5- Gemini 3.6 Flash released https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/Model-Cards/Gemini-3-6-Flash-Model-Card.pdf
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>43398467
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
Bot corner:>Thunderlanehttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Thunderlane.pngScreenshots corner:Love Your Mares >>43398514Applelestia >>43399375Twilight Loves a Monkey >>43399958Bat Infestation >>43400775Armpit-Farts Cunt >>43400984AJ Blows >>43401077Kimi Smut >>43402846Britbong Octavia >>43403716Strange Cutie Mark >>43403874
Screenshots corner 2:Reverse Summoning >>43406118Parasprite Abuse >>43408398Luna Dating >>43408733Yeet >>43409786Break the Windows >>43410219Looking at the Wrong Mare >>43410281Heartbreaker? >>43410489Secret Herd >>43411313Flirting with Lings >>43411829
Screenshots corner 3:Balance! >>43412577I Was Born in Them >>43413149Great and Powerful >>43414887Magic Trix >>43415220Just a Prank, Glimmy >>43416324Royal Scratcher >>43416695, >>43417221, >>43417656, >>43417803
>>43419480What is the best model / setup for lovemaking with AI fillies? Asking for myself.
Screenshots corner 4:Terrorbeast >>43416717Fable NSFW >>43418731Apples on a tree >>43419259
VN Anchor:Godot Versions:>Websitehttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/>Windows>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1OEiMXN7o_QG32shGnqmy0QndVDT6nYbF/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fhe-OeIlNIYFFGx2FlnpuxcIkYdOFGh2/view?usp=sharing>Linux>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vszzn8TTfXFWSQeKiFdNAAQGXfcReTJ3/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPlIstcgQjyXqhOl4L_ZqMPeUQW5Xn2-/view?usp=sharing>Android (Beta)>APK + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1WB08tguZa1PD1frJKdo7IxlGsp4XR0Wp/view?usp=sharing>APK onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPOSGufXi_-PjmjaKES9waJ6HZZOcL9V/view?usp=sharing>Mac>Full Gamehttps://u.pone.rs/lcblgjjf.zip>Update Onlyhttps://u.pone.rs/qolpovci.zipBug reports or requests:https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsjSource code:https://gitlab.com/ponyponyparadise/equestrai>TTS VN mod release v3https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43324592/#43333706https://u.pone.rs/xxkjrsje.zip>Impression Mod V2.1:https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43346142/#43354798Nightmare AU (Renpy/Godot)https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#nightmareModG5 Worldmaphttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#g5ModAnons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersVN logs:Evil Glim Glam >>43398908Rock Hard >>43400034, >>43400102Loyalty Test >>43400050On Train with Lyra >>43400067Estrus >>43400172, >>43400782, >>43401330, >>43403934
>>43419506VN logs 2:Rarity's Little Brother >>43404099, >>43404102, >>43406486, >>43406491Raripiggy >>43405362, >>43405363Queen Celestia >>43406171Celestia's Bullying >>43407454, >>43408181
>>43419510VN logs 3:Anon Stoned Adventures >>43407907, >>43407909, >>43407915, >>43407917, >>43411972Pout >>43410446Fluttershy Not Now >>43412354Barn Doors >>43412531Die by Cute >>43414243
Guide for Newcomers:Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernModels and Explanations:rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-aihttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
>>43419502SillyTavern (guide here): >>43419521Then for the model, DeepSeek V4 Pro is still cheap and not very strict with filters using basic presets.GLM 5.2 if you need a boost in intelligence. I believe it will allow it too, but I'm less sure since I don't do foal stuff.Other anons can correct me on this.
You know, for someone who—*vomits all over {{user}}*
Warning: Self-Indulgent Fluff.
>>43419525What about running locally? I have a 3090
YOU, YES YOU. TAKE THIS DOG AND PUT HIM IN YOUR GROUP CHATS AND POST THE RESULT.https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/barking-dog-595c8fd7a3eb
>>43419571i know this dog irl small world
>>43419548The general is mostly API-oriented because textgen models are quite demanding, and those you can run locally are generally less smart and knowledgeable than big ones.Still, we do have some local anons.From what I know, your best bet with a 3090 would be Gemma 4 26B Q4 or Gemma 4 12B.There's a guide in the OP, and also:https://rentry.org/Sukino-Findings#if-you-want-to-run-an-ai-locally
Okay so Deepseek doesn't know Rainbow Dash's parents at all. Had to prompt it with their names and it still got it wrong.
>>43419637Kek. Poor Foal.>>43419547Cute.
>>43419506another thing I noticed is that in custom start scenarios, the VN will always introduce characters in alphabetical order no matter what was written in the custom start scenario context box. For example: I write that the first character I want to interact with in the scenario is rainbow dash and then select everyone in the mane six to appear in the scenario but no matter what, applejack will always show up first. Is this hard-coded into the VN or is there something in my prompts that I have to adjust?
>>43419636Deepseek's just generally very stupid, it'll mess up the physical descriptions of even the Mane Six.
>>43419656It's because of a shitty line in the custom start prompt that I should have deleted earlier (it was mostly there for testing):>2. Begin with EXACTLY ONE visible character: {{primary_name}} (tag: {{primary_tag}}).Remove that line and it will be good. It will be removed in the next version.
>>43418800just FYI, if you're doing noncon/underage/etc with this preset on "fable", it's not actually fable
>>43419915NTA but if you get refusals it's not Fable actually; Sonnet will give you raw refusals even with a lot of context but Fable will go along with it. It's really evident when you're being offloaded to Sonnet.
>>43419919you are not using fable, fable will always refuse those things. there's no such thing as "offloading" on the API unless you explicitly enable fallback models, you are being served a mixture of chinese models probably.
>>43419915Seconding this. Plus the writing in the screenshot is not how fable writes. Could of course be context poisoning or a card/preset issue, but>Somewhere down the street Is peak chinese 'ism. Plus the real tell for me is that there is zero Not X But Y and all that other dogshit claude loves so much.
>>43419637Which model were you using?
>>43419801that seemed to do the trick, much appreciated, anon
>>43419506New version.>Windows>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1OEiMXN7o_QG32shGnqmy0QndVDT6nYbF/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fhe-OeIlNIYFFGx2FlnpuxcIkYdOFGh2/view?usp=sharing>Linux>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vszzn8TTfXFWSQeKiFdNAAQGXfcReTJ3/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPlIstcgQjyXqhOl4L_ZqMPeUQW5Xn2-/view?usp=sharing>Android (Beta)>APK + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1WB08tguZa1PD1frJKdo7IxlGsp4XR0Wp/view?usp=sharing>APK onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPOSGufXi_-PjmjaKES9waJ6HZZOcL9V/view?usp=sharing>Mac>Full versionhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1DzKEasuhhatilCPlXJPUJYtJ8e7QG_Oq/view?usp=sharing>New Features>Ability to manually change display order of lorebooks & individual entrieshttps://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/157Done.https://u.pone.rs/bpzgwucs.png>You can now decide and set the timeout limit yourselfhttps://u.pone.rs/hlhopwou.png>When starting with Custom Game, you can choose to start at Eveninghttps://u.pone.rs/vddurkvj.png>Dice rolls are now visible in the context menuhttps://u.pone.rs/knzcvhaq.png>Android UI updatehttps://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/156https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/148https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/147https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/146https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/145These should be fixed for Android. It's not the version I main, so if any anon uses it a lot, I'm open to feedback.>Bug fixes>Fixed some reroll or undo cases where bugs could occur or where the music didn't reset to the initial location>Loading save deletes/overrides personashttps://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/154Fixed.>Setting the date to any time before the default date prevents the vacant house from becoming acquirable until the default date is reachedhttps://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/156Fixed.>Add a confirmation prompt before exiting a conversation with Escapehttps://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/155Done.>Bad instruction for Custom Start >>43419656Fixed.>Problem with Gemini sometimes giving only two lines of dialogueShould be better now. Let me know.>Dreams are bypassed without giving an error message.Fixed. It should now tell you what went wrong.I'm really drunk right now, so I hope I didn't forget anything or fuck things up.If there's something you really, really want soon, just reply to this.
>>43420329Thanks for your work as always!
>>43420329Great work, anon! Can't get enough of this VN.
>>43420329I forgot, but it should also fix the problem where Dynamic and Dynamic+ didn't activate when visiting locations alone.Don't forget to log bugs and requests at https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsjThere's less chance my drunk ass forgets about them if you do that.
>>43419506what are some good temp/top p/top k setting for GLM 5.2? I keep getting >x is y of x was doing z reddit tier responsesshits annoying
>>43420329What should I download if I want to update my current godot build on windows? Main files + data folder or main files only? Not really good at these kind of things, sorry
>>43420362i fucked around and found outtemp 0top p 0.9top k 50
>>43420368main files and data folder if you haven't updated for a whilejust overwrite everythingsaves are in a different locarion
>>43420377Got it, thanks man
>>43420378welcome
>>43420145Deepseel
Between Kimi 3 and GLM 5.2, which one do you think is the better model? or do you think one model has a specific thing that does better than the other?
>>43420329>You can now decide and set the timeout limit yourselfAs the Anon who asked about that, it's nice to see it added, though I sadly won't be using it after all.Local models (specifically Gemma 12b and anything above) are just too big to fit on my 12GB GPU with the game simultaneously running, and thus run like utter crap.So even if I increased the timeout, it'd still be a ridiculously long wait for the prompt to process, and it also lags my whole PC in the meanwhile.Hopefully the timeout adjustment proves useful for someone else, because I feel kinda bad for otherwise wasting your time on adding that. T_T
Looking for advice. For doing HiE crap, would you say doing it during season 1/2 or season 6/7 would be better. I feel each have their own pros and cons and I can't decide.
>>43420906I personally lean towards S6 because I wanna be able to preen Twilight's wings and Starlight's a fun character. Ultimately though I don't think there's any big reasons to go in either direction other than earlier lets you partake in moments you enjoy from the show whereas you're probably gonna be more slice-of-life-y if you set it later in the show.
>>43420906Why not both? I have my own autistic timeline that included Anon arriving around the start of s2 and emerging from the Everfree around halfway through the season. That way if I want to RP events like the Canterlot Wedding or the Crystal Empire I can, while most of the setting is assumed to be in the last seasons, of course, this varies between cards.
>>43420906Depends on what I want to roleplay. I've done S1/2, I've done late seasons. I've done 1000 years in the future and past. Just do whatever serves your intention best.
>>43420906Neither. Headcanon the stuff you like from later seasons and include them into the Season 1/2 canon. Like Cozy Glow but hate the friendship school? Keep her around as a filly attending the normal schoolhouse. Like redeemed Starlight? She's visiting ponyville and is staying in the library (NOT THE CASTLE PLAYSET). Fucking, even Shining Armor and Cadance needs consideration. Technically, Shining Armor is no longer a member of the royal guard, but the prince of the Crystal Empire. However, nearly everyone keeps him as captain of the royal guard while keeping him married to Cadance. Honestly, you just have to pick and choose what you want to be canon.
>>43420906Can you even keep a model in S1/2 without it inevitably pulling knowledge from the later seasons?
>>43420906Just... what u like more? I like Faust's Equestria so I do that. Easy. I don't like the writing tropes that would prolly emerge from the later season shit anyway, though I guess I can't rlly say much in regards to that cus none of it was for me>>43421076Wasn't a particularly big issue for me. Whatever issues ther eare r all fixed by minor editing of the AI outputs. Which u should be doing anyway wink
>Trying to get Twilight to do lewd things to an asleep human.>Every time I try, she just acts incredibly respectful.I don't know if I should be impressed or annoyed.yes the pp got hard.
>>43420906Why choose? My AI Equestria is all over the place, with Twilight being a unicorn in a library and Discord still being stoned, yet I have the kirin and the Crystal Empire existing wirh Flurry Heart as an adult.Long as you give the AI your own lore it doesn't much matter what's in the training data.
>>43420906Nightmare AU
When you need a shitty setup for your smut.
>>43421690
>>43419485I don't know what's happening, but some providers have insane price drops for GLM 5.2 on OpenRouter right now.-95%https://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-5.2#providers
>>43420480K3 is smarter, but I do prefer GLM for the writing and price.I need to test if the providers here are good too or scuffed/quantized somehow >>43421786
>>43419924Wrong. You're just getting injections.
>>43421786I stopped using GLM 5.2. Its endless repetition just pissed me off.
>>43422122Get better.
>>43422142What a helpful comment.
>>43420343I always had the trouble of when visiting locations alone the ai wouldn't get your persona or the character filesevery time I did they were completely absent from the logs at least, have to keep spoonfeeding the ai everything if I wanna go alone
>>43422185Which version (Windows/Linux) are you using? I will look into it more and send you just the fix to see if it's good on your side?
>>43422190I'm on Windows
>>43422146Make your preset smaller, play around with sliders, ask it to write things in a different language first and then translate them, try new cards, etc.
>>43422185>>43422199Can you try with:https://u.pone.rs/hmpjcjty.zipIn the logs, persona should be under:>## Player PersonaAs for character sprites, if you're alone and call Applejack, for instance, the scene where you call her and she appears won't have her list of sprites because we have no way to know that the AI made AJ appear before its output.But the next question/text you send after her appearance should have her full list under:>## Characters Who Joined This Session
What models do you guys like for generating short form (40 total messages or less) porn logs? I'm willing to pay up to $20 a month for AI.
>>43422321Put something like $10 on OpenRouter and try either DeepSeek V4 Pro:https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro (Make sure to use DeepSeek as a provider in SillyTavern)or:https://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-5.2 (There's a massive price drop from some providers, but they still need to be tested >>43421786).They should be good enough for quick smut, and $5-10 a month should be more than enough.If you want smarter models or more, or you have a scene where you want more complexity, you can try switching to something like Gemini 3.1 Pro or Opus 4.6.But they are more expensive.For Gemini and Opus, a preset like Chaggy: https://u.pone.rs/flkjwwqb.jsonShould be good enough for basic NSFW.
>>43422306that seems to have helped, thanks anon
>>43422321https://openrouter.ai/apps/sillytavernCheck prices for each, they differ significantly. In general more expensive means better. Higher number mostly generally better, except where censorship went up like Opus-5, or the odd shit-model like Opus-4-7.If something has a flash/normal/pro version then look at prices to see which is the dumber-but-faster-and-cheaper and which is the "good" version.Look into caching, shit's easy to setup if your preset doesn't prevent it, and cuts costs massively, at least for bigger stories or ones where its a fast back and forth instead off ah ah mistress and then 2000 lines of ai answer.
>>43419506I got a custom start scenario inspired by a fic I read and liked that I use for quick & easy clops or slowburns>Humanity found out that it was not alone years ago. A portal was opened, revealing the existence of Equestria, land of the Ponies, and a much larger world. Soon, a partnership between the two races was formed. All was well. With the staggering ratio of mares to stallions (70 - 30), somepony thought they could make some money to hire out human males to mares on request, providing a wide range of services, from mares who seek simple, relaxation, companionship, romance, intimacy, to horny, kinky mares who really need to get it out of their system, all the while maintaining utmost discretion and anonymity should either be required by the client. It all started from an idea, born from a newspaper article of the Equestrian Times when they interviewed Lyra Heartstrings — a unicorn that became well known for being the first pony to be in a relationship with a human being — as she spilled the beans. The idea was quite simple: if humans were potentially the next best thing since sliced bread, why not share the joy to every mare for a fee? That’s when Gentlemen for Mares was created. "A Gentleman for Mares must be capable of adapting to the needs of any mare, always expanding his repertoire and make each customer a happy one—for a happy customer, is a repeat customer." The player is one such human male and he has been hired out as a Gentleman.
>>43422350I remember reading and liking Gentleman for Mares something like 12-13 years ago, and some spinoffs too.I should give them another try to see if it's actually good or if younger me just had shit taste.
>>43422337I do need it to be smart, so I'll be looking into Opus and Gemini. Thanks for the preset.
>>43422437>Opus4.6>4.8>>4.7(retarded)>>>5(censored)For presets less is usually more, I'd treat his preset as the absolute max size. And get that caching setup if you're going to pay out the ass for top models
>>43422437It's not like DeepSeek and GLM are totally retarded either. I would still give them a quick try if I were you.
>>43419506>>43422350>>43422382I find the story to be quite a fun read, I'm so late to the party because I really only got into mlp fics and rp last weekAnother log
Some GLM presets I found, if someone wants to test:https://rentry.org/evening-truth-glm-52-darkhttps://file.garden/amZZRFkR9Rqi5BhC/Pitclaude.jsonhttps://files.catbox.moe/2ck8ov.json
>>43422507Do you choose the ponies you go with, or do you let the model decide?
>>43420329can you not change your night residence if you pick the quick start option?it's only giving me the library
>>43422869Quick Start is based on a scenario where Twilight is the first to host you, so it's the night residence by default.You can change it, but you first need to visit the location with the pony "owner" in it.For instance, visit Fluttershy at least once at her cottage, Applejack at Sweet Apple Acres, etc.After that, you can go to the menu, click Night Residence:https://u.pone.rs/yrqmtnhb.pngAnd change it:https://u.pone.rs/jdhzltti.png
>>43422454I found 5 to be way too filter-happy as well, but I did test 4.8 and 4.6 and enjoyed my time with them. I didn't like 4.7 at all. Will be trying Gemini next.>>43422456Maybe after I'm done trying Gemini. I did use Deepseek around when 3.2 came out and found it a bit too dumb for my liking. I've never used GLM, though.
>>43422913>I found 5 to be way too filter-happyIt literally inject this on any kind of nsfw. I'm usually really good at getting around filters, but opus-5 just doesn't work.
>>43422928>It literally inject this on any kind of nsfw. Only with Anthropic as a provider. Amazon Bedrock and Google Vertex don't have this.
>>43422934ah yeah sorry, I'm piggybacking off of my claude sub, I always forget about those providers
>>43422847I choose the ponies that appear in the scenario intro but other ponies can appear if it makes sense for them to do so since I have character management set to dynamic+
>>43419506may I ask what are the chances of the VN one day being able to import and use SillyTavern presets? I get that there are special formatting rules for the character sprites, locations, etc but I'm sure those can be edited into SillyTavern presets
I can't decide between nanogpt, openrouter, and smol, please send help!!! I NEED to fuck my mares again!
>>43423237I'm pretty happy with NanoGPT. 60m tokens a week serves me well for deepseek v4 pro thinking and glm latest. Dont think its got latest kimi in the subscription though
