This is the alternative MLP fan site general thread. Discussion, development suggestions, and criticisms are all welcome here.It All Returns to NaNthing Edition>why alternate boorus?The absolute state of Derpibooru has led to the development of various alternatives. Many altbooru staff members are present ITT, reading comments and answering questions.>why alternate text sites?Pastebin persistently purges pony pastes. Fimfiction does not allow stories in greentext format. FiMFetch censors foalcon and other material deemed "unacceptable" by its owner, a libelous hypocrite: ponepaste.org/9926>general purpose boorusponerpics.org by Pupper and Lotus [!!VL3e2tgvNo5]twibooru.org by Twifag and Filly (formerly Floorb) [!!mdpTjuXo6BG]>specialized boorusbooru.foalcon.com by Pathos (lolisho)lyrabooru.org (hot glue)>(green)text and other fanfictionponepaste.org by Aftercase [!!KXV0q+Lg38e], managed by Filly>dedicated archivesa0346f102085fe9f.github.io/IAS2foalfetch.net by Fillyiwiftp.yerf.org by Romemlpcon.info>video sharingpony.tube by Twifag and Filly>file sharingpone.rsmare.by>microbloggingpone.social by Twifag and Filly>link shorteningderpy.meOn past /fast/s:>Ponerpics duplicate queue has several hundred reports awaiting an update to Derpi metadata handling>SunBooru resumes development>Twibooru imports large batch of images from Manebooru>PonePaste UI improvements go live>Pony.Tube future expansion under consideration>Ponerpics disables anonymous tag editing to curb spam; results promising>derpy.me back online after purging spam links>IWIFTP relaunches Tor hidden service: 647jnod5oc7bzj3tpjq2qaaq6j73sa4h43whqeubkvkbvm52yecm72id.onion>IWIFTP launches i2p service: ow7qtlpe3u36qob4dgoo3opifaj335hbk6gxv43tfjjzhvky5zwa.b32.i2p>PonePaste domain expires; gets transferred to Filly>Pony.Tube and Pone.Social receive updates courtesy of Filly>Ponerpics prev/next image shortcuts fixed>New Twibooru scraper code published: github.com/Twibooru/nuboorumon>pone.rs ShareX functionality fixed>Twibooru SVG importer restored to working order>Ponut.Space taken offline following CP spam>PonePaste fixes out-of-memory bug affecting database dumps>Panicked purge marks The End of Ponybooru: >>43200111 >>43227018>mulpwiki.batpony.party sunsetting scheduled for Q1 2027>Twibooru server migration successful; hosting costs lowered, performance increased, and storage enlarged by 80%>Quad9 DNS block of FoalFetch successfully appealed>Twibooru swaps frontend server for improved load management+Twibooru importer/image processor experiences difficulties: long-term fix for missed images pending+Ponerpics enables Cloudflare Under Attack Mode following mass influx of scrapers+PonePaste database dumps exhibit corruption; third-party scraper set up to compensatePrevious thread: >>43393576
Half the images on Twibooru are 404. All brand new ones and most year+ old ones.Eg https://twibooru.org/tags/artist-colon-dark-dash-fic?page=21&q=artist%3Adark-fic
>>43450599RIP
>>43450599We've got an AWOL sysadmin. We've also got backups. Trust the plan.
szurubooru is also down
Do someone happen the songs linked in https://ponepaste.org/10651https://ponepaste.org/10790?Both got nuked from lain/catbox.
>>43450599nginx decided to just randomly shoot itself in the fucking head while I was asleep. I believe it is fixed now, thanks to the help of the new sysadmin.
>>43450951>new sysadminDoes that mean you can work on the "reimport derpi to cover missed images" project now?
>>43450598>third-party scraper set up to compensateOh btw, the daily dumps are not working. The ajax_pastes works fine for me, but I doubt anyone else is running a scraper.
Well? Are you ashamed of your words and deeds?
>>43451789>r*pist mentality desu.Holy hell someone should rape this faggot irl so xey know what it's really like
>>43451789who will explain to this fag that Twibooru is an archive site and messing with an archive meant for future generations is a rape on the legacy of humanity?
>>43451789>I will no longer upload my art to derpibooru Is this supposed to be a threat?Also Archiving is just rape now I guess
https://ponepaste.org/4028 seems to have major rendering issues, see after "Recent/Ongoing Stories".Not just because the input markdown is malformed, but because the parser seems to fail to properly parse right-flanking delimiter runs. The "/Sun/ Art Archive (sort of)" should render as "***/Sun/ Art Archive (sort of) ***" (because the last non punctuation character is followed by a whitespace.
>>43451789Shit tier art anyway. Wtf is https://twibooru.org/3835863 supposed to be? Did the fag draw it while high on 18 pounds of cocaine?
>>43450932Updated the links
>>43452117Awesome, thank you!
>>43451789>I will remove all my art from DerpiOh no. Anyway
>>43450598>no poneb.in updatesWelp, I just found out poneb.in has archived ponepaste AND has a search feature (woo!) so good job anon, it's waaaaaay better now
>>43452621>open poneb.in>still has RU and BY b& for no reasonso what's the point of having an archive site that restricts random users from reading the archives?
>>43452773>for no reasonAnon...
>>43452967I don't think there are any horsefuckers reading old /mlp/ greens amongst the chinovniks
>>43452621>>43452967You're not getting added back into the OP. No matter how much you update your site.
>>43453158
If the anon who made that thread >>>/wsr/1572812 happens to come here, I feel stupid. I ended up finding which song it was, and either the schedule or video title was fucked. Eventually found the artist (f3nning; I finally had the brain to go and rewind that video and they mentioned him) and the song was Gotta Share (Remix).Artist name drop: https://youtu.be/-bN_Kz0AHbc?t=2933Linked clip https://youtu.be/-bN_Kz0AHbc?t=3492pony()fm/f3nning/contenttheponyarchive()com/archive/ponyfm/Pony.fm%20archive%20(raw)%20-%20March%202018/F3nning/Broke 'em so scrapers don't just pick at these.And it does seem like his stuff was wiped from youtube. Sorry about that man. And sorry I was too lazy to search it while your thread was up. Hopefully you come around here and see this post, or that you eventually found it after I posted in there.
>>43451368Pretty sure Floorb said he won't be working on anything anymore, ever. At least on TB side.
>>43453474If I said that, it was during a moment when I was really angry, and is (probably) untrue.
>>43453483>angryMore like depressed. It was in previous thread, or one before that, something about looking to transfer TB to someone else.
>>43453488Oh, yeah, I STILL want a replacement, but in the mean time I will do what needs to be done when I have the energy and time.
>>43451789look at these fuckin HANDShttps://www.tiktok.com/@lovely_wayniac/video/7572885964465409311https://lovelywayniac.straw.page proves zoomers should never have been allowed on the internet
>>43453620I'm not opening those links.
So, how do I search the ponyarchive?For example I have a youtube video url: wOL4WogGICEIt was titled "ToastPone - Pony Cat". I did rip the song https://u.pone.rs/pjmknbkm.opus but the cover art is missing. The best I found is https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-YUmrGZ7MuS9CQGWc-zEd5IQ-t500x500.jpg
>>43453702Oh and on soundcloud it was https://soundcloud.com/toastslayer33/pony-cat-2I did found https://soundcloud.com/gamedestroyer112/a-mlp-song-pony-cat-by but it seems like just a screenshot.
>>43452621Yes it does archive ponepaste now. I tried my best to recover as much as possible, but still about 2100 pastes are missing. Some of them are private, some got removed by who posted it, some timed out.Search also got an update today, it shall work better now (it mistreated punctuation marks).And I fixed a few edge cases in the markdown rendering too.
>>43453158What next, removing twibooru because boxless is there? Removing rome's archive because he's a furry? Removing ponerpics because the owner is a soijak? Seems kind of pointless to keep stripping away alt sites just because the purity spiral got offended.
>>43454125None of those things are people blocking access to a purported "archive". What knowledge there is, should be available to all.
>>43454152So if a library is on an other continent and you have to pay for a flight to get there, does this mean the airline is blocking you from accessing it? Buy a VPN moskal.
>>43454187False equivalence. If there's normally a teleporter between my house and the library, and the owner of the library blocks people from specifically my house/neighborhood from using the teleporter, then yes they are absolutely blocking me from accessing it.
I think the whole poneb.in debacle isn't relevant anymore when most non-.ru domains require a VPN to access due to RKN's nigger-tier retardation, but it also proves NAFOtrannies and "Puccia" are one and the same.
>>43454216It's a great analogue on multiple levels. To travel you need a passport and other documents depending on the destination. The destination country can block all travelers from a specific country, eg USA blocking Iran.
>>43453500Thank you for doing what you do. Nobody does it quite like you.
>>43453500>quitting>everget back on the ride, i'm not done with you yet
how much money would it take to bribe twibooru's admin into deleting every single one of crookedbeetle's stupid fucking videos?
>>43454937More than you have.
Speaking of bribing, what if we bribe the guy to unblock vodkaland? If he posts a list of paste IDs that are missing from the archive, then we can give him 2 pastes per week (one per blocked country) in exchange for removing the block. Win-win: we get more pastes recovered, and vatniks can access the site. In another thread, he said he is missing 3,200 pastes. I’m sure quite a few of them can be easily recovered from the archives. With 2 pastes a week we are good for 30 years. Assuming someone takes the trouble to recover two per week.
>>43455106>compromisingWe don't do that here.
>>43454125You do censorship => You're removed. It's THAT simple. If owner ever get her heads out of her ass and removes it, then it will be added back to the OP.
>>43455766Anon do you understand the meaning of censorship? Clearly you don't.Let me google it for you:>Censorship is the suppression or removal of writing, artistic work, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.I don't about anything being removed or suppressed from there, do you?
>>43455831>I don't aboutI don't know about bump
>>43455766Censorship is but one reason for the development of alternative fan sites, oft entwined with petty tyranny which yet remains a sin against Pony. The futile efforts of those who have crossed the Rubicon to minimize, mitigate, and relitigate their own actions only serve to strengthen the case against them.
>>43455831I'm going to ban the Marshall Islands from reading my fanfics because I think SpongeBob is a fag who should stop pestering Squidward and find a better job. And FUCK everybody else, they should eat shit and burn in hell because they all live in the same country as SpongeBob.This is a totally sane and mature way of thinking and definitely doesn't put me on the same level as Derpi's staff.
>>43456115>retard doesn't understand why banning access from countries full of hacking glowniggers should be a default action for any website ownerMany such cases.
>>43456192You've already admitted you just hate Russians. Pretending like forcing regular anons to use a VPN will prevent the FSB from pinging your shitware is retarded.
>>43456192>implying FSB doesn't use VPNsshould I cite cock.li's comments about glowies using their service?
>>43456216>forcing regular anons to use a VPN will prevent the FSB from pinging your shitwareIt actually will. They don't need to bring a website down if it's not accessible by general public and does not pose a threat for the country's internal stability.
>>43456262>implying FSB doesn't DDoS websites that are already b& in Russiajust stop pretending that you don't hate Russians reading autistic memearrow stories about magic pink horses
>>43450598>mfw ponepaste still flashbangs me when I change the pageFilly (previously Floorb) plz fix
>>43455766>You do censorship => You're removed. It's THAT simple.Bears reiterating.
altsites?
Doesn't this https://twibooru.org/3836317 cross into the pizza territory?
>>43456755It's EqG IRL. Those bug-eyed monstrosities may be disturbing, but they are unfortunately legal.
>>43436072>>43436152https://vcl.yerf.org/?q=source:tantabusai
>>43456782neat. how much space does all of this take up?
>>43456792Around same as the plain archive, which is something around 40-50TB without deduplication, I think.
>>43456755Fucking horrific
>>43456782Thanks for stepping up. Most of Tantabus is slop but there's some alright stuff in there that bears archiving.
>>43456755Where's Boxless when you need him?
>>43456853She's busy schlicking it to Discuck porn.
>>43456776>legalPhotoshop edits, hyper-realistic CGI, and live-action GenAI pics are typically not legal. Not that legality matters, it should be deleted because it's AI slop spam.
>>43455766k cool then when are we removing twibooru? Boxless censors tons of pony related media every day. Or is it only censorship when an invading country isn't allowed to view a site? Or would that not count if ponebin blocked israel? Maybe some sites still on the list should start blocking israel, see if you stick to your principles of that being censorship or if suddenly it's ok, proving that you're only kicking off ponebin on behalf of russian feelings. I'm willing to bet all of the site removals have been hypocritical bullshit pushed by a cabal of assmad retards. You've got endless examples of boxless wiping pony content off twibooru every day, but it's only a problem when zizzy deletes pony stuff off ponybooru. If a site blocked india and israel, it would be met with cheers, but blocking russia and belarus is the most offensive thing ever. Moreover, I do not recall (You) ever being voted in or appointed as the glorious leader whose opinion exclusively shapes what alt sites are and are not allowed to be in the OP. How does one even develop that kind of ego?
>>43456916Anon, I'm Israeli.
>>43456936Based!
>>43456916>cabal of assmad retardsI don't think it's more than one or two Anons turning the thread into an echo chamber.
Ponysites for when the walls are closing in?
>>43456916>[twibooru] censors tons of pony related media every dayI haven't stepped into this thread in ages. What are you on about?
>>43456862>hyper-realistic>not legal Only when it's literally indistinguishable from the real thing. You can easily tell this is not a real human bean.
>>43457686He thinks deleting non-pony related images is somehow censorship. Probably a furfag, they have a huge stick up their ass about Twibooru.
>>43457769Now that I'm entirely unsurprised there's one of those screechers, you wouldn't happen to have a few examples off poner would you?
Speaking of that, """deer""" ocs should be immediately wiped. Dumbass unrelated furry shit. At least pony anthros have an excuse of being the ponies.
>>43457803What kind of examples do you mean exactly? Ponerpics doesn't have a mod log, so it's difficult to easily see what was removed.
>>43457810I meant "What images got wiped off twi that poner probably still has".
>>43457811https://ponerpics.org/images/7567500 type shi
>>43458186ok but that's cringe and deserves deletionJokes aside, borderline judgement. Feels like it shouldn't be deleted since it's still originally a pony OC and just a species swap. But we see how that turned into a fat slippery slope on what's allowed on derpi. And it all started with that trash with those cringe dogs.https://derpibooru.org/images/1417072And now we're sitting in a spot where it's 3 steps removed from the source material, with no relation to MLP. https://twibooru.org/tags/deerBasically furry OCs.
>>43458197THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN FUCKING SAYING FROM DAY FUCKING ONE
>>43458205Anon, I get why you're pissed. But we also need to keep in mind that species swaps should be ok so long as it had an actual link to MLP from the start. Deer, dog, human, and dragon OCs as examples should be chucked if they were never pony and don't have pony in the image. I even side-eye those """dracony""" shits all the time. Tatzl[x] are neato though, and are at least unique to MLP. Even though I loathe those timberwolf/pony hybrids.
>>43458197"originally a pony OC" only matters if the character is relevant to the fandom. Why should pony sites host a random vorefag's donut steel unless it's in pony form?
Hi, here's my MLP OC. He's a red earth pony stallion and I originally drew him as an anthro pony, but I often draw him as an echidna instead because I want to fuck echidnas. His name is Nipples Enchilada, he likes to fuck shit up and has 5 IQ. Please donut steel.
>>43457769Hi cockless. Care to explain to >>43457803 why you think humanized ponies are not pony related yet obese anthro scolipedes with pony colors are pony related? Because you're on record deleting the former and allowing the latter and I really don't know why you think you can lie about it here and get away with it.
Reminder:https://twibooru.org/3331722This is considered acceptable pony content by the people who think human/eqg alternative forms of ponies should only be allowed for canon characters despite nowhere in the twibooru rules supporting their inexcusably shit moderation practices.
Reminder:Boxless a qt
>>43459075>>43459088Sir, >>43457803 here. That immediately made me think that was an Apul species swap. Argument denied.Provide a link to poner or derpi about the pic that got deleted that you brought up.
>>43459684Boxless removed a ton of loli images of fandom OCs at one point, it was a huge dramafest at the time. They were reinstated and he said he wouldn't do it again, but that's why people are still wary of him, basically. I haven't seen him remove anything objectionable (to me) since that time though. I mean yeah, Twibooru removes those "stamps" of Barbie characters or close-ups of shoes of Barbie characters that do remain up on Derpibooru, but does anyone actually miss that shit?
>>43459710You know you can link stuff here, right? Or at least post the IDs. I also wouldn't be surprised if they thought it looked entirely unrelated so they zapped 'em at the time.>Twibooru removes close-ups of shoes of [EQG] charactersI still don't get why the fuck someone is uploading those. t. footfag>those "stamps" of [EQG] charactersNot sure what this one means.
>>43459879>You know you can link stuff here, right? Or at least post the IDs.I don't care enough about this argument to look that up, especially since this drama is literally years old.>Not sure what this one means.You know those small icons people make on Deviantart? Since they're so small people call them stamps. All of the stamps that Twibooru wiped contained zero original content (they were just downsized screencaps and the like).
>>43459963>2nd partAh. Got it.
>>43450598Hey there! My team and I made this page called pony.games a couple months back. It's still in its first iteration, there'll be many updates to come to better the site and make it a hub for all things pony game dev related.I was told that'd it'd fit this thread, so I just wanted to make its presence known.
Neat. Design could use some work, though.e.g. BFE(D) has official and fanmade versions all mixed with each other without any distinction https://pony.games/games?game=4(And being unable to open game pages in a new tab is lame.)
>>43459684>well this pokemon is clearly applejack hurr durr
>>43460850Well yes.
>pony.tubeIs this dead?Took about a month to approve my registration request.Now I uploaded a single video and it is also waiting for verification. Will this take a month too?
Reminder that Rome, extreme archivist of anything pony, only considers Ponerpics a real pony archive.But he's also a massive furfag, so...
>>43461003Half the mod and admin team don't do anything and the other half are busy as fuck. Your video should be cleared now.
>>43461043>Half the mod and admin team don't do anythingwhy are they still on the mod and admin team
Is the admin for pone.rs around? I'm hoping to have a takedown request reviewed for two links I created yesterday.
>>43461442The email my request originated from is *******ony@gmail.com>censored for dox
>>43461442Why do you want the files removed? Do they contain personal information? If they don't I don't think they're going to bother. It's on the user to not upload stuff they don't want to be available forever.
>>43461545I can't really say but it's for one of the valid reasons they list on the site for takedowns.
>>43461562Alright, no problem then.
Bros, I have a question?Is it possible to create my own booru for other franchise or I need to be programmer and web designer to do this?
>>43461680Do you want to just run it locally for yourself or do you want it to be available to the public?
>>43461680From a chat I had a while back with a friend>Hydrus Network and Grabber, both of which can auto download and tag how you like as well as sort from various boorus and image hosts>I will eventually be setting up an internal booru of my own for categorizing and saving images to (preferably automatically) likely going to use Philomena, as its the one Ive so far liked the most out of the boorus>Hydrus/Grabber can also check hashes of existing images that may not have tags in the filename and search the hashes on other booru's to get the tagsreee typoing
>>43461758Philomena is shit. Use booru-on-rails-twi instead.
>>43461849Sure thing, Floorb.
>>43461854Clearly you don't know me, because I will always be the first to say please do not use my software for any reason. I think if I ever did manage to relicense Twibooru, that would be the entire license text: "You may not use this software for any purpose."
>>43462013>relicensewhy would you want to stray from AGPL's magnificence?
>>43462020>why would you want to stray from AGPL's magnificence?plusNIGGER clause on top of AGPLv3-only might be even more based
>>43460579>DesignYeah that's something we're working on. I personally liked the page in its original form, but we're gonna inject some soul into it>Versions jumbledYeah, that's something the team is debating on which would be THE definitive version. Originally I wanted the best version to be bumped to the top or be highlighted in some way, but that'll have to wait until later.>Opening games in a new tabThat's coming too! In a future update.>Toggles fucked by the lightmodeHadn't noticed that, I'll make a note of it.Though what do you mean by them looking weird in dark mode?also, everyone always checks if BFED is there, lol
>>43462228It's extremely difficult to tell if the toggle switches are enabled or disabled because they have no background. Not only does this mean there's no color/lightness coding, it goes as far as robbing the user of being able to tell what position the switch is actually in, relative to its range of motion. The switches' label text turning red when enabled doesn't help, since red can either mean "disabled" or "unsafe" depending on context, and shouldn't be relied on as your primary indicator.
>>43462013>Filly !!mdpTjuXo6BGSus
>>43462228>spoilerNo idea why. It's one of the most well known ones out there. That's one that shouldn't need checking. Unless they're looking to play it.
>>43462694>what is a benchmark
>>43461707>Do you want to just run it locally for yourself or do you want it to be available to the public?I was thinking about make it available to the public but idk if I had enough money to do this. But if I run it locally for myself, it would help me with archives, so I could find arts easier.
>>43463005Webhosting is a far bigger timesink than it is a moneysink.
>10
I used to think that AI scrapers raping websites would settle down once AI became more commonplace. After all, once the models are trained on the data, there's no need to continuously grab more and more, is there? Not so. After all, AI (((needs))) to give us answers on everyday topics such as news and poolitics as well (along with their very special woke flair, of course) and to do so it needs the newest and most fresh up to date data at all times.This isn't a temporary hiccup. Things are not going to "stabilize" to let small independent websites thrive again. This is just the new normal. Welcome to the future, it is gay and made of AIDS.
>>43464237Another thing that I've considered is that forcing sites to put up anti-bot measures may actually benefit the AI companies as well. Assuming they've already scraped the site, forcing the sites to do so will prevent competing AI companies from scraping the same data they did.
Is Gold Meddle still the only active staff at PonerPics?
>>43464281Yeah but most sites aren't static, that's why they keep scraping them over and over again. So in the end they'd still be shooting themselves in the foot if that was their goal, but I don't think it is, it's just a side effect. What's more worrisome that in their ongoing effort to circumvent bot detection they're starting to develop scrapers that act more or less like an entire full-featured web browser, making them nearly impossible to block.
>>43464287evidently nothttps://ponerpics.org/profiles/Megalith/tag_changes
>>43464889NaziHorseMolester also made a comment 8 days ago. That's not staff work of course, but it shows he's not dead.
>>43464287>>43464889>>43465424try to find them at mare fair and give them some blowjobs if you're that worried
>>43465933>tfw you see zizzy going into salon 13
To ponepaste admin: I've noticed that tags containing forward slashes (/) generate incorrect links. For example. [1] is a valid query, but the /shy/ tag bubbles link to [2] (bad request). Is this expected?[1] https://ponepaste.org/archive?q=/shy/[2] https://ponepaste.org/archive?q=-fwslash-shy-fwslash-
>>43465933>Boxless is mad he isn't getting attention
>>43465933... I can just do that? Give BJs?
Speaking of ponepaste, >>43451886
>>43466638I would throat boxy's clitty tbhfam
>>43466708Really? Right in front of my Kiwi Strawberry Arizona?
>>43466851pour it over your tummy and let me lick it up baby girl
>>43466851I don't get it
>>43468188
>>43467239https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/really-right-in-front-of-my-x
Dunno where to put this but I visited pony.fm and they updated their ui
>>43469338>looks like shit>look inside>yep, vibe codedI hate this timeline.
>>43469600I don't get what "vibe coded" is supposed to mean. If you mean that AI wrote part of the code, I'd like to know how you could tell that it was AI and not just someone who's not good at coding.
>>43469644I mean that an LLM wrote most if not all of the code.>how you could tellhttps://github.com/Poniverse/Pony.fm/commits/master/The excessively long commit messages here (hover over them) - no human writes that shit, and no human uses phrasing like "Remove everything the audit confirmed dead" as a random example.
>>43469714Strange. I don't understand why someone would let an AI write the commit message.
>>43469748Because fully autonomous agents do everything like a human would. If you prompt it correctly it will write its own tests, use browser automations to look at the rendered pages, press buttons, etc.Claude code for example really likes to use git. When I told it to find a specific bug, not only it did find it but pinpointed the exact time when someone made the mistake and started blaming the guy for fucking it up.
>>43469801Oh I didn't know the systems were already automated in such a way they can commit changes for you.>pinpointed the exact time when someone made the mistake and started blaming the guy for fucking it up.That's actually hilarious though.
>>43469868On github (if you have copilot subscription) you can literarily spawn an agent to implement something. You don't even need to do it locally on your machine, it will spawn its own VM, set up the env, etc. Completely automated.
>>43469906You mean there are accounts making changes that are entirely run by bots? That can't be good for open source projects. I've already read some of them decided to stop accepting AI-generated bug reports because oftentimes the "bug" was completely hallucinated and it wasted hours of the developer's time to look for something that wasn't even there.