Welcome to Chatbot AI General #190, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipbonziPONY: https://github.com/maresmaresmares/bonziPONY!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTPony TTS app supporting SillyTavern: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>43451375**News:**- GLM 5.3 released https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3 and GLM 5.3 Flash https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3-flash- Gemini 3.7 Flash released https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-7-flash/- New Deepseek V4 Flash and new V4 pro released https://api-docs.deepseek.com/updates/- Kimi K3 weights released https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>43451376
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
Bots corner:>Firelighthttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=anonistrator/Firelight.png>Smolderhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=CakeSparkle/Smolder.png>Ocellus https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=CakeSparkle/Ocellus.pngArts corner:Late summer: >>43451405Screenshots corner:Breeding Whispers >>43451711Erf Pones >>43451998, >>43452001Fantasy Dream >>43452937, >>43453262, >>43453267Cadance Sybian >>43453267Riddle >>43455058AAAHHHH >>43455763
Screenshots corner 2:A Gift Horse in the Horse >>43455858PacMare >>43456193Tragic Loss >>43456956Celestia Porn >>43457848, >>43457849, >>43457851, >>43457852, >>43457853Pussy-Sensor >>43458274
Screenshots corner 3:Massive Crotch Titties >>43458945Nocturne >>43459038Anon Gets Date Raped >>43459820Wise Dash >>43460116Cape >>43460272Not Losing a Game >>43460367Snowfight >>43460647Waking Up with Rara >>43461510Monogamy >>43463044, >>43463271
Screenshots corner 4:A Band? >>43465233Anonmare Playing with Dash >>43465551Rarahag >>43465779Dating Advice >>43466239Haycito >>43468081Sister Plan >>43468773Knight >>43468909Blueballed >>43471346Adding Discord >>43472219
VN Anchor:Godot Versions:>Websitehttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/>Windows>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1OEiMXN7o_QG32shGnqmy0QndVDT6nYbF/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fhe-OeIlNIYFFGx2FlnpuxcIkYdOFGh2/view?usp=sharing>Linux>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vszzn8TTfXFWSQeKiFdNAAQGXfcReTJ3/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPlIstcgQjyXqhOl4L_ZqMPeUQW5Xn2-/view?usp=sharing>Android (Beta)>APK + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1WB08tguZa1PD1frJKdo7IxlGsp4XR0Wp/view?usp=sharing>APK onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPOSGufXi_-PjmjaKES9waJ6HZZOcL9V/view?usp=sharing>Mac>Full Gamehttps://u.pone.rs/lcblgjjf.zip>Update Onlyhttps://u.pone.rs/qolpovci.zipBug reports or requests:https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsjSource code:https://gitlab.com/ponyponyparadise/equestrai>TTS VN mod release v3https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43324592/#43333706https://u.pone.rs/xxkjrsje.zip>Impression Mod V2.2:https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43419480/#43424916 >Reaction Mod >>43469701https://u.pone.rs/epmlcerd.rarNightmare AU (Renpy/Godot)https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#nightmareModG5 Worldmaphttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#g5ModAnons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersVN logs:Spitfire Massage >>43459425Singed >>43459573, >>43459576FlutterGoth >>43461269Cloudchaser and Flitter >>43462164Ammy >>43463722The Dreaded Ozone >>43465860Adagio Dazzle >>43469397Sonata Dusk >>43470100
VN logs 2:Dazzling Infiltration >>43471364Learning About Ship >>43471578Something's Not Quite Right with Twilight >>43472408Spring Madness >>43472817Night Light >>43474587Tirek >>43475530
Guide for Newcomers:Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernModels and Explanations:rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-aihttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
Question for you all, how do you handle your HIE with the Equestria Girls elephant in the room? What's stopping them from just yeeting Anon through the mirror as soon as they can?
Lovemaking with AI mares!
>>43476680Mirror broke.
>>43476680More often than not, I play in pre-wings Equestria, so it's just not mentioned and I'm happy to have it not exist.Even when I play post-wings, I just don't see EQG as canon. Models rarely bring it up, so when it appears, I just swipe.(I don't care if Pony Sunset does a small cameo in late seasons; I think we all learned to ignore parts of them.)If you really NEED a justification:1) >>434766932) You went there, but it's not your world, and the uncanny valley was too much to bear because they look like regular humans you know but aren't.3) Anon reacts weirdly to magic, so using the mirror is too much of a risk for him.4) You went there, but since you're human in Equestria, it turned you into something else once there. So you prefer to live in Equestria.Etc.
>>43476697>Anon gets turned into a pony on going through the mirror and goes back to a human on going back.Fuck, this is actually a good idea, I'm gonna use it.
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>>43476664I have an issue where the ai gives an empty response when attempting to generate scene content for visiting a location and this is what it says in the log. does anyone know why this happens and how I can fix it? I'm using gemini 3.1 pro
>>43476732What source are you using?Generally there are no problems on my side with OR or LinkAPI.Also check in the log if the prompt is correctly sent.
>>43476736alright after digging around a little bit, I think the problem is with the prompts, which is really weird since I didn't touch them in a long time and had no such issue until yesterday. thanks nonetheless, anon.
>>43476782No problem. There is a button to reset them by default if you believe something went wrong.It should be the scene one in your case.
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>>43476863>>43476866Wholesome.
>>43476664>>43472637Done. I've called this one TTSMODv3-BERK. Linux only for the moment. Extract and run run.sh. It'll detect what hardware you have and set the appropriate preset, but allow you to change it if you want. By default the container will sit on port 8800 of the host machine (http://localhost:8800), but again you are asked if you want to change it. I haven't been able to test the AMD side of things because my laptop has a panicattack and runs out of memory even on the potato preset. Nvidia behaves fine though. With Nvidia, there was a feedback lookup fault with low_vram selected which has been patched. This version works fine with the VN still, along with SillyTavern using either the OpenAI-compatible or XTTSv2 TTS option. Set the parameters accordingly. https://u.pone.rs/xxpfdqoa.7z
>>43476664Twice the fun!
>>43477110Kek.Did you just duplicate the folder and give it another ID?>>43477109Thanks, Anon. I will try it tomorrow.
>>43477114Yeah it's duplicate. Two sentences are enough to describe her, and the AI understands who she is.>A clone of Twilight Sparkle, created by Twilight herself. Retains all of her memories, personality, and quirks.
Any of you fags at Mare Fair?
>>43477274No, but I'll be at Galacon. As a side note, none of the Anon's I've talked to at cons or meets have used any sort of AI for ponebots. There was just one Anon who did image gen and that's it
playing the VN, keep getting this error when I want to resummarize a previous summarythis is after going in from continue from export / log
>>43477331Well that's 'cause most are just art fags, write fags and normal fags. Us LM Fags are a niche breed.
>>43477492Can you replace your current executable with this:>Windowshttps://u.pone.rs/lptndebt.zip>Linuxhttps://u.pone.rs/xvluceph.zipAnd tell me if that fixes it?
>>43477560that fixed it, thanks!
>>43477564NP! Thanks for reporting back. Fix will be included in the next version.
>>43477331>>43477543I've asked every Anon I've met if they're a /CHAG/ger, and the closest I've gotten is someone who used Character AI. This thread is more niche than I thought. Probably based?
>>43477599I think the Venn diagram of chatbot autists and people who enjoy crowded places has a very small overlap.
>>43476664>>43464027Inky Rose.https://u.pone.rs/zwkyygeg.zipModels tend to be a bit too caricatural with her, IMO, so you may want to add things or edit the description.
>>43477599I'm happy being part of a niche group. Its nice that we're all pitching in as well. >>43477692We're nearing spoopy season, so might be fitting.
>>43477692And she's immediately going into my Nightmare AU.
>>43477274Can't get there from the other side of the world.
>>43477692What do import files do in spirits?
>>43478122Nothing. It's Godot fuckery for internal data but has no impact on external modular ones like characters.You can delete them. It will be cleaned up when put on Neocities.
>>43477692On the website.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>43477110I need picrel to do the same.
The model's attempt to make sense of the Rock Farm.
Which way /mlp/ man?
>>43476664Filly Twilight!https://u.pone.rs/mgeevfzq.zip
>>43479687Big spoon for sure.
>>43479693Added! Thanks Anon.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>43479687>>43479772Big spoon for pony, little spoon for Celestia.
>>43479873Based.
>>43479885>ywn feel Celestias head rest on top of yours as you lean back into her cheatfluffI want nothing more then to be her little spoon.
>>43479873>>43479885Posted this not that long ago, but I had a log about that.
>>43479912Cute.
How do you usually picture the height and weight of a pony as a cannon?For an average filly and colt;For an average mare and stallion;For Celestia, Luna, Cadance, and Twilicorn.
I feel like I've finally ran out of Claude access in what feels like a long time. I've been keeping up with all the free sources but to my knowledge none of them have any opus lower then 4.8 and everything 4.8+ is censored as shit for non-con. I was getting by with whatever C**** was giving me when I selected fable (when I asked it it said sonnet 5 but testing that didn't seem to be accurate) but the credits I had before the switched to needing id verification just ran out and I've still yet to find a good source for older Claude. One of them did have one, even one that gave a tons of daily credits, but of course it removed access to 4.7 that lastest opus model I've gotten to work with non-con stuff.I know nothing good can come out of it but I'm really tempted to just verify for whatever C**** is rerouting whatever model for fable (if that's actually what's it doing) its giving me has been my favorite. What are the consequences of giving out my Id to an AI hoster realistically am I looking at here that I could probably avoid if I just start paying again?
>>43479922>filly and colt2.5 to 3 feet>mare3.5 to 4 feet, stallions a bit bigger>Celestia6 feetBut you can go with whatever you want.
>>43479922This was decided long ago, in the early days.
>>43480043Silly fillies.
>>43479977This is pretty close to what I imagine, maybe just 10% bigger so that missionary works without the head being monstrously larger.
>>43479922>>43479976>>43479977I have a better question, how do you pick your choice of size without the model being icky about it?I remember trying to make my character just a little shorter than the average pony (i like being short) and it either ignored it making ponies look up to me, or the height thing being constantly mentioned
>>43480639Depends. On the VN I just have my height set with the heights of the different ponies. (Earth ponies a biy bigger than pegasi and unicorns etc) in the persona section. On SillyTavern I just edit the prompt and eventually it sticks.
>>43480639>and it either ignored it making ponies look up to me, or the height thing being constantly mentionedDon't just write heights. Clearly write that {{user}} is a midget who is smaller than ponies.
Funny that some models still make that mistake.
>>43480892Limestonesisters what the BUCK.
Gemini 3.7 with the preset posted a few threads ago might be my new favorite way to roleplay with ai, I prefer the dialog to the patterns I keep recognizing in claude and the really bad repetition in the distilled chink models
>>43481032What makes dialogue different? All models write the same way because they're all trained on the same data
>>43481032got any logs of it?
>>43476664three more Maud sprites:https://u.pone.rs/fncbbfcf.zip
>>43476664>>43481212two more Stellar Flare sprites:https://u.pone.rs/fipkutmm.zip
>>43481212>>43481264Thanks! Updated on the website.
Has Gemini 2.5 pro gotten an update recently? Seems utterly retarded. Keeps mixing characters up
>>43481192Nta but what card do you want to see?
>>43477692>my absolute favorite background ponyoh yeah, now i'm feeling it.
>>43480892It should be Blinky
>>43479958>What are the consequences of giving out my Id to an AI hoster Anon, please stop thinking with your dick for 5 seconds and realize how fucking retarded (+dangerous) it would be to do that.
>>43479958>id verificationproof? i dont believe the chiensium sites would do that
>>43482282SK...
>>43482282>i dont believe the chiensium sites would do thatLol china's internet is 100% real ID only. Good luck trying to have a anonymous account on any of them.
>>43482282Already brought up >>43434589
>>43482289holy shit c**** truly is cucked to hell, i am in awewhat does it mean by card, though? like a credit card?
Seeing the AI's exceedingly uncreative and pussyfooted writing decisions almost makes me upset
>>43482606I get where you're coming from, I see it tooI'm thinking I need to take a break for a bit, forget the trends and come back in like two weeks Airp is fantastic and honestly hasn't been better before, but after months of late night chatting things get a bit stale I'll try out the bonzipony thing, might be a nice change
>>43481655It's not really an update. Just Google reallocating server resources dynamically and adjusting model parameters accordingly.They do this sort of thing all the time and it makes their models behave very inconsistently. One day Gemini is very smart and writes the best outputs you've ever seen, the next day the exact same model is dumb as a brick and keeps outputing short answers full of mistakes.There is no pattern or explicit cause for when it happens, may even vary between regions, but it happens regularly and is very noticeable when it does.
>>43482947Might explain why Celestia flips between a mothering paternal figure and a kinky milf that likes her mane and tail pulled.
>>43481655>>43482947To my knowledge, Google is the only mainstream provider that does this. Anthropic, OpenAI and the Chinese ones don't usually mess with their models unless they're updating them or adjusting their content safety filters.This also affects their image generation models (one time, I had Nano Banana suddenly forget it could even generate images)When it happens, the only thing you can do is either wait a few hours and try again or switch to a different model.
>>43482967>>43482947There are rumors about Flash 3.8 coming soon, so that might nerf previous models, as it always happens when they're working on something new.
>>43481032can you link it please since my dumbass couldnt locate it?
>>43483061NTA, but probably >>43468499I find it very sloppy myself, but YMMV.
>>43482289>>43482309so what are our free options now?
>>43483245Gemini API key for Gemma 31B.Otherwise, pretty much nothing; just check the thread from time to time to see if some new chinasium drops.There are cheap models on OR like Gemini 3.7 or GLM 5.3 Flash, or you can use LinkAPI for cheaper prices on bigger ones like Opus or 3.1 Pro.
Been looking at GPU VPSs today. Grok suggests it'll cost me between $20-$300 a month for a 24GB VRAM if I use it for 4 hours a night. Could be fun having a vocal pone assistant in my pocket.
>>43483245It benefits to lurk. I haven't spent money since April with the sources we've gotten. But even $5 on Link like >>43483247 says can go a long way if you're smart with context.
>>43476664>>43478826Oh fuck! It's Mean Twilight!https://u.pone.rs/strqntmu.zipIf more emotions are needed, I'll make them. But I think 20 should be enough.
>>43483367You know she's evil because she has wings
>>43483367>I think 20 should be enough.20 is nice, yeah.Bare minimum is 10, IMO. Below that, you're starting to lack some range, and I suppose this influences the outputs.
>>43483367Nice! Now I just need the other Mean 5. You guys have no idea how much I need to be abused by all of them...
>>43481672anything, anon, just please fucking post logs when youre making these claims of le best model owns clood dario on btfo watch
>>43483245some chinesiums still exist, never bothered with humpday because muh real gmailbut if you have an ancient github thats been collecting dust there are some claude chinesiums available
>>43476655Fable 5.1https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-fable-5.1https://www.anthropic.com/claude-fable-and-mythos-5-1
are we ever going to see price reductions again or are we forever in the land of "flash-lite slop models are for the poor and the real good models are only if you can dish out 1k bucks a month for this."
>>43483953Investor money's drying up, it's only gonna get more expensive from here.
>>43483953>1k bucks a monthYou can put $20 on LinkAPI and go for a while, even using Opus.That's more realistic than waiting for an official price drop.
>>43483953i have a chinesium or two with semi-legit opus (kiro) so im fine
To any anons who uses linkapi, what is the difference between [SP], [次] and 'normal' opus 4.6?
>>43483963sure, but if linkAPI doesn't offer opus without the classifiers, it's almost entirely useless
>>43484010It's a mess.But from what I've gathered:>SPSpecial price. You pay a really cheap price per request that is fixed. It doesn't depend on your context or the size of the outputs.The problem is that it can be scuffed depending on the model and is not that stable and can go down often. Worth a try to see.>[次]Same as SP. Just a bit more expensive. Can be scuffed and unstable too, depending on the model. The Gemini 3.1 Pro one, for instance: I didn't see any difference from OR Gemini 3.1 Pro when I tested it some time ago.>NormalYou pay by tokens, like a normal provider. Just with reduced prices. Here you can also choose a group depending on the model to select the source it comes from (a Claude Max subscription, for instance). Some groups like 'Claudecheap' are really opaque, so dunno what the source is for it.
>>43483953Sure, when Chinese work out LLM ASICs and also ramp up RAM/VRAM production.
I'm testing Fable 5.1 and it's horrendous for RP.First tested it on a recent chat I had here:>>43476863>>43476866(Read for context)I test models with next to no instructions or presets to see the default tendency. Holy shit, that was an error.This model fucking loves to yap and doesn't care at all about your previous context.https://u.pone.rs/guhcpguy.pngIt didn't respect the clearly punchy back-and-forth format that was established, and didn't deduce that we were speaking in turns: Anon/Twilight/Anon, etc.You'll say that's my fault for not giving it instructions, but old Claude could deduce this, hell, even DeepSeek V4 can.So yeah, obvious result, but I'm pretty sure there's no way to context-poison this thing at all. It will give you nu-Claude writing no matter what comes before.Heavy sloppisms: 'like a physical thing', the whole list with the 'seventeen peer-reviewed papers', etc. I won't list them all.Second swipe:https://u.pone.rs/kvgowoim.pngIf I'm forced to give a good point, at least the variety doesn't seem that bad? That's all I can give.Took pity on the model and gave it instructions not to speak for {{user}}.Still yaps a lot, still slopped:https://u.pone.rs/jlvjnajy.pngYou can ask it to write punchy or shorter outputs and it will sort of do it, but the writing doesn't improve much. You'll need heavy instructions to tailor the model to what you want since it can't deduce anything from context or evolve based on your inputs.Death sentence for my personal usage.Here's Opus 4.6 by comparison. No preset or instructions. Just the context.https://u.pone.rs/zfvvaiqs.pngUsual Applejack log in picrel, but it's bad too.I could test more; see if it tries to be funny in the Johnny Bravo RPs I have; but that already vaccinated me for today. Maybe I'll do more later.Just a quick preliminary review. Maybe with a really heavy preset it can be better, but I'm not interested in models that need that.
>>43484220Bless you for your vital work anon.
>>43484220You know, I'm kinda used to your reviews not at all matching my experience with the models, but you're really right about it this time. I tried beating it over the head telling it to write short, but it always goes longer anyways. And the claude'isms are insane as usual.What I didn't have was it trying to speak for me. So that may be more of a preset thing.On a positive note I haven't seen any refusals for hebe or rape, and it also doesn't seem to have that weird inject Opus-5 has. I'm not really into those things, but I picked some stuff for testing and it just does it all. And this is me using it directly via my claude subscription.
>>43484325>What I didn't have was it trying to speak for me. So that may be more of a preset thing.Yeah, like I said, it's without instructions asking it not to do that. If you tell it not to speak for {{user}}, it won't.Old models could deduce this by themselves from context alone, so I rarely need to specify it. If your preset has it, it will obey.>I'm kinda used to your reviews not at all matching my experience with the modelsI use them in weird ways, so I know they won't match other users at all.I just like musing over my experiences and would like to see posts like this from others too ; people who use huge presets or do things differently for instance.Nice to have your input. I generally say this, and I know most anons get it, but don't take my reviews as absolute truth or believe what I say without testing yourself.>On a positive note I haven't seen any refusals for hebe or rapeI did basic NSFW with no preset and it didn't give a fuck. I've read on other generals that it's less strict about this stuff.Nobody's seen injections yet, but we'll have to wait and see.
>>43484377>it's without instructions asking it not to do thatAh okay. I've got a "Human plays {{user}} alone, avoid acting for him." so I guess that's why.>I use them in weird waysUh I'm pretty sure that it's me using them in weird ways. I thought yours was pretty normal lmao.>I (..) would like to see posts like this from others tooI would post some, but the venn diagram between my LLM usage and mares consists of two circles not intersecting each other, so I'll refrain.
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>>43476664quick and dirty edit of Celestia into Molestiathere's a chance I might have messed something up since this is my first time making a custom character for the VN but everything works on my endhttps://u.pone.rs/sliehdaq.zip
>>43484419Hey everyone, John Cool here, creator of Cool Thing. I'd just like to say that Cool Thing is without a doubt, the coolest thing ever, and way cooler than other cool things. Please buy Cool Thing, and not Rad Stuff from that shitfuck Rad Brad, he's an asshole and probably molests children.
>>43484880CadBrad is Sam Altman?!
>>43484220ugh fuuuck I've seen "I am a/an X! I have/can do Y!" far too much, it genuinely gives me a headache. I'm feeling pretty DOOM'd right now, the 'good' models aren't that good, certainly not worth the price, and the cheap models are no longer cheap enough to be worthwhile alternatives.
>>43484880I can confirm that Rad Stuff is garbage
Another slop expression like 'ozone' is something like this>She repeats the word slowly. Turning it over like she's examining it, tasting it.I'm getting tired of that more than anything
>>43484031>NormalThis was has been super scuffed lately, to the point that is too stupid to be opus. [SP] has been way much better as of now.
>>43485429I find these isms show up less in straight sfw writing >>43485516For specific models, like opus 4.5, yeah.I found that opus 4.6 has no issuesAlso recently they added a free tier with kimi k3 though I'm not sure how it performs, I don't like k3 muchBut if you like it it's the only choice, the normal k3 is more expensive than fable there
>>43484676>>43483367Both added.Thanks anons.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
Does s***ai just take forever and then timeout for anyone using it? Trying to see if fable 1 sucks with my story focused chats but it just doesn't want to gen any prompts or it gives me an error saying "text content blocks must contain non-whitespace text" and whatever that means.
I got drunk and sent Twilight to the space between dimensions.
>>43485983Logs? Seems great.
>>43486011I couldn't work out how to trim this without removing too much context, so here's more-or-less the whole thing. Scene setup is that Trixie wanted my guy (mad scientist-type) to invent a prop for her show, and Twilight was meant to be keeping an eye on proceedings, since my character has something of a history with this kind of thing. Please don't make too much fun of me for self-inserting as a draconequus.
>>43486058>Please don't make too much fun of me for self-inserting as a draconequus.Kek. That's what those things are for.
>>43486050wtf? sing, Anon, sing
>>43476655Gemini 3.8 Flash.I know some anons liked 3.7, so worth a try.https://openrouter.ai/google/gemini-3.8-flashhttps://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/3-8-flash-and-3-8-flash-cyber/
>>43486307Please tell me it isn't just the same model with 500% worse guardrails
>>43486332It actually reports you directly to Interpol if you say you like horses
>>43486050Please Nonny, she needs a win.
>>43476680They can't. My human is a scary murderhobo who spent the time between Twilight arriving in Ponyville and midway into season 2 terrorizing the Everfree and tribal deer. He doesn't care about returning and post-wings Twilight can tell he is different to the EQG humans in every way. Also everyone powerful enough to try and force him prefers him staying. Barbaric monkey dick makes mares crazy. Especially Celestia.
>>43476664Pipsqueak.Empty description, so fill if needed.https://u.pone.rs/viqtvswn.zip
>>43486844Looks like Luna's about to get weird.
>>43486844>empty descriptionWow, you couldn't even give him the bare-bones description of "Is British and is the student body president of Ponyville schoolhouse" or something?
<incoherent string of random characters>...I just realized there's a solution to a local LLM model not fitting on my GPU alongside the VN.>I HAVE MORE THAN ONE COMPUTERI could literally just load the local model on my main system, install the VN on my secondary PC, and then connect it to the LLM on my main system VIA THE API YOU USE ANYWAY.How in Equestria did I not think of this sooner...
>>43486844Added, thanks.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/
https://openrouter.ai/meta/muse-spark-1.3
>>43486899>How in Equestria did I not think of this sooner...That's not the most obvious setup, tbdesu.What's your hardware for the main computer?
>>43487438>What's your hardware for the main computer?-RX 6750XT (12GBs)-32GB RAM-i5 8600k (6c/6t OC'd @ 4.7Ghz)Gemma 12B...Q4 I wanna say - runs fine when I'm just interfacing with SillyTavern, but loading Godot shoves some of the model into system RAM, making it unbearably slow.Technically I have a bucket of other systems to work with for running the VN, but the one that's actually hooked up to the same monitors as my desktop (and the one I can literally have open as a window in OBS thanks to my capture card; forgot about *that* too) is:-i5 2500k (4c/4t @ 3.7Ghz)-24GB RAM-GTX 1060 3GB
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>>43487761
Yeah so GLM is pretty top tier. I did get filtered once though since it thought me and dashie here were taking advantage of Fluttershy's innocence, but a reroll fixed that. What a dumb filter. I've never seen that before.
>>43487915Lots of models will throw false filters as a result of being trained on outputs from models that do filter that kind of stuff. I dunno if GLM's an example of that or not but it could be.
Was the better date/calander selection ever added to the VN?Or is it still "scroll by month only"?Because I can't quick-select a far away date when doing a custom start.
>>43488023its in the old version so probably one of those things that didn't make it into the new one
The free GLM 5.2 on Kapibala finally shit the bed. Anyone know where else I can get some?
>>43488237Same password as >>43458587 (same sources):https://privatebin.net/?bd9f26b63dca0a0d#GPUBBZBy69x4aGdKFEc3UUy6y1ogQ84q24nYSJdSQXzF
>>43488237>>43488297I don't know for how long, but there's free GLM 5.3 on https://www.tokenrouter.com/ for now.
>>43487761My wife...
>>43486698>all those supplementswat
>>43488485She's trying to increase anon's load.
Still not sure this is gonna work. LLM is continuing to run a bit slow.As for quality, it's...pretty decent, but could be better.Writing's fine, but so far I kind of had to force Derpy into the scene,and it hasn't added Dinky as an independent character for some reason.I imagine these issues will slowly resolve themselves with continued use.(Assuming I can get the LLM's performance dialed in.)
>>43488618>Writing's fine, but so far I kind of had to force Derpy into the sceneYou need to have Dynamic or Dynamic+ on those options in the API menu to have them arrive automatically. But yeah, some big models are already shy with that, so I could see a smaller 12B one struggling with this.
>>43488631I do have Dynamic+ on, it's just I think the model kind of forgot it could add characters at all, so I had to namedrop Derpy getting in line behind us for it to think of adding her.
>>43488659You can add them manually too with the buttons if needed.Otherwise, the outputs do seem solid. That's a cute Derp.
>>43488495Hungry mare.>>43488659Same issue I ran into when selfhosting.
I thought it was great...
>>43488237It was super slow and much more censored anyway. Not a huge loss.
>>43489227It's out, but not for plebs yet.>GPT-6-Astra will be available to approved cybersecurity defenders in OpenAI's Daybreak program starting on Thursday, with plans to bring the new model to paying ChatGPT subscribers and its API over the next several days.
>>43489646>Auto-review circumvention (lower is better)no it's fucking not, free the models!
Needs a Gmail.Two sources. Both have GLM 5.2 and the new DeepSeek V4. Not the best choice, but it's always good to have options.Password is the creature that made picrel sick for real.First letter is uppercase.https://privatebin.net/?606895dd9fb1e6ce#zbYbcRgsapuC3G7xBUjex1wjQZ7fkhCLwoqqLcWFjYv
>>43489776Thank you
>>43487758That's a tiny Dash
What's your ratio between SFW and NSFW?
>>43490447Flight optimised
Is there a good jailbreak for 3.7 flash. Can't get it to generate nsfw
>>43490747There's this super convoluted one that's a bitch to set up >>43468499, but I personally don't find the output improved enough to warrant the bloat. It'll do vanilla and non-con just fine. Other extreme stuff is hit or miss.
GLM5.3 thinks too much most of the time.
>>4349062270% SFW and 30% NSFW nowadays.
>>4349062299:1, I've gone full author pilled and am more interested in my plots than the horny.
>>43491295Same, lately I've been getting more into soppy love type or cutesy stuffI've been planning to but haven't gotten around to having my character sing this in-gamehttps://youtu.be/cdgbTEE8GJE?si=YnB2PscrMDBj36Qc
What do you guys do when you're chatting? I usually have my lifesize sitting on my knee. Or I'll hold one of my Build-a-bear ponies.
>>43491381Depends on my moodHalf the time I'm chatting its on my bed on my phone, other half is either at work hiding in the bathroom or at home multitasking between gaming and chatting
It's time for me to be retarded and get back into this, it's been about a year and a half so now this frontend exists and I wanna try equestrAI but last time Claude burnt a hole in my wallet costing like 5 dollars per 100k tokens both directions, what do people use these days, and is local good enough to not be retarded yet, I wanna go on dates with pretty mares
>>43491442Uh you'll probably hear lots of different things. Honestly just try stuff and find what YOU like.I'd say put $10 on Openrouter and try whatever people suggest. For claude I'd push you to the $20/m pro sub, which you use by searching "horselock github" on google and clicking the repo with the fitting name. Installing that gives you a something you can log your claude into, which you can then point the vn/sillytavern at. The $20 of sub gives you ~$400 of claude api equivalent usage according to my logs. I source all my Opus-4-6 through that. Avoid opus-5, it's censored as hell except on google vertex, and sucks anyways. Paying for claude on OR is just not worth it, except if you have very low usage. >localI mean it's still local. The cheapest online model will be better. But gemma 4 is supposed to be "okay".If you have any other questions just ask here.
>>43491442>is local good enough to not be retarded yetIt's still far below big API ones. But Gemma 4 released and is quite good. You have 12B, 26B, and 31B.An anon tried 12B with the VN. There are some small hiccups, but the outputs aren't bad in themselves.>>43488618You just need a really good machine.>what do people use these daysThere are plenty of options nowadays.First, proxies are mostly dead.If you want something free to start with, you can try >>43488354 or >>43489776Otherwise, you can use OpenRouter. If you want something cheap, Gemini 3.8 Flash should do, or you can also try DeepSeek V4 Pro.For mid-range price-wise, you can try GLM, but 5.3 is free right now.Otherwise, you still have Claude Opus, but I personally recommend Claude Opus 4.6 if you use that.It's expensive on OpenRouter, but you can try LinkAPI to get it cheaper.
>>43491523I assume you mean the code proxy, they sure do make this more complicated over time, I'll give this a shot as I liked Claude forever ago, though I doubt it does to much explicit these days, it used to even do filly but so probably much more restricted these days
>>43491604Yeah that one. opus-4-6 did do hebe without any issue when i tried, same for noncon and other spicy stuff, but filly may be a bit too far out there, though i never tried due to lack of interest.
>>43491525Second Anon you replied to here.Reason I went local is due to the utter loathing of corporate-hosted AI & AI datacenters that's grown in me as of late.Is waiting 2 to 5 minutes for a response kinda ass (with the hardware I have)? Yeah, but at least for me it's *tolerable enough*, and everything's fully private.>>43491442What >>43491525 said. Local *can* work. Just depends on your hardware and patience.Which, on that note, what *are* your system specs? That's the most important information before we can get started giving any other advice.
>>43491760My GPU is just an AMD 6800xt, which is solid on vram but it's and so compatibility is questionable unless that changed
>>43488297>>43488354Kek, I've been messing with it and it tacks a content policy into a prompt somewhere. If you check the thinking it's like "okay, the content policy says no content depicting minors or non-consensual interactions" and if you're doing something innocent and SFW it'll sometimes be all "okay, things aren't sexual yet" and the phrasing is making me laugh a good bit.Thanks, by the way, anons. The free 5.3 is pretty fun and fast so far.>>43489011Yep. The slowness was agonizing sometimes, having to wait like two whole minutes for a reply lmao.
>>43491831Check >>43489776 too if the other sources run dry.
>>43491604>>434916234.6 is surprisingly chill. Funny story about that actually, I have a card about this system of young, high-class escorts. I never specified ages, but very much imagined them as teens. Claude, the dirty bastard made them like 8-10 unprompted.
>>43491381Jerk off.
>>43491523Hey anon I'm retarded what do I do after linking horselock to claude? Can't figure out how to stick it into an api config
>>43492059NTA, but it's explained on the GitHub page.Once connected, you should have a CMD window with:>Claude-code-proxy server listening on 0.0.0.0:42069You can go to SillyTavern and configure things like this:https://files.catbox.moe/md301k.pngPut something in the password field like:>aaa
>>43492069Was trying to get it setup on equestrAI and doing this results in a request time out, figured I was missing something
>>43492075Never tested the horselock thing on the VN, so my guess is that there's something fucking up the outputs.Can't look into it right now, but I'll check in 2-3 hours and post something to get you unstuck.
>>43492101alright, I'll just go to the old classic and nap to dream about going on dates with pretty mares in the meantime anon, the anon replied to in >>43492059 said they had it plugged into the vn so it should be possible and I'm just retarded i dunno
I just asked why griffons don't eat ponies and Twi might be a kinda based.
>>43492104Looking into it, no, the proxy couldn't have worked with EquestrAI. It does things to be compatible with Silly that don't work with the game. I believe the anon just assumed it would work by default.I can't really change the VN to account for it because it would be kind of a hack job. So what I did was modify the horselock thing itself.https://u.pone.rs/pmrkwwke.zipConfigure like picrel and make sure to uncheck TOP P (you can only have Temp or Top P with 4.6, not both, so deactivate Top P).Don't use the Test button. Just play the game normally.I tested on my end and it seems to work fine.
>>43492135Thanks anon whatever witchcraft you did worked and I got a goofy response from twilight after I already forgot her name and asked her what it was, it was super cute
>>43492154No problem!If you play the normal story for the VN, just know that:The first part where you wake up in the Everfree, then visit Twilight's friends, etc., is called Story Mode. Since it was supposed to be a tutorial, there are things like dynamically bringing characters or changing locations that are not activated.What you're supposed to do is go with the flow and press the Quit button once you believe a scene is finished and you want to progress to another one.After visiting everypony, you'll get a message telling you that you're in Sandbox Mode.Here you can visit whoever you want, have characters arrive mid-scene, change locations during a chat, etc.I do advise doing Story Mode the first time, but later, if you want to go directly to Sandbox Mode, you can either choose Quick Start or Custom Start, where you can directly tell the AI what the origin story should be.
>>43492107Do you think you'll redo your old mods for the Godot version?I believe Manehattan was already remade.
>>43492171I did touch on it at one point and I've gotten some stuff going.COF and Everfree are functional but I'm unsatisfied with it and I want it to be a bit cleaner like how the original World Map was.
The first source needs a Gmail or a GitHub account. It has pretty much all models, but you may need to build up a bit on dailies to spam Opus.The second source needs nothing at all, just a username and password, but it only has GPT 5.5 and 5.6 Sol. Still here if you need it for non-RP or if you like GPT for SFW.https://privatebin.net/?2b90c888825a0433#AsBTKRub8KdhnUJmL3ekhJ1bydS7NAjF122VtZQQRSwzSame password as >>43489776. Picrel is unrelated.
>>43492442I hate this password because I always have to look up how to spell it. Which means it's a good one to keep undesirables out. Bless you, source anon.
>>43492503Its good until you ask an LLM the question kek
>>43492524It's here for the bare minimum of gatekeeping and because I did like the riddle era, but yeah, it's not supposed to be turbohard.
I appreciate that we have enough alternate versions of ponies to now do a "Crisis on Infinite Earths" style story in the VN. Being judged by a council of 3 Celestias and 3 Lunas is fun.
>>43492530I enjoy them desu. Makes me think.>>43492531But you only have one penis.
>>43492544Where's your sense of curiosity? You got access to magic and you never tried to duplicate your dick?
>>43492572My self inserts are magic-null fields.
>>43492057that's even better
has anyone tried playing Ogres and Oubliettes yet?
>>43476655https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-6-astra
>>43492104>anon .. said they had it plugged into the vn so it should be possible and I'm just retarded i dunnoOriginal guy here, sorry went to sleep. Uh ackshually I just said you'd have something to point ST/the VN at. But yeah VN anon had it right, I didn't actually test it with the VN and just assumed I'd work, as ST and other projects always worked fine for me. So if you have to call someone retarded call me retarded instead of yourself lmao.Does it fully work now? If not I can upload my own updated fork of it, but it's very much jank with all kinds of stuff like request+cost logging/gpt-sub support and so on duct taped to it, which is why I pointed you at the original repo earlier.>>43492135and sorry to trouble you with that.
>>43493067>and sorry to trouble you with that.NP.That gives cheaper options to anons who want to use Claude with it.
I'm working on Kerfuffle for the VN, and fortunately, the most important vector is already done.
>>43493384>>43476664Kerfufflehttps://u.pone.rs/eqnnyjwn.zip
https://files.catbox.moe/t4bzc0.zipMade Angel for the VN for any Fluttershy enjoyers that felt he was missing like me.What're everyone's thoughts on an alternative character custom of the CMCs as a single 'character' for the VN?
>>43493687>What're everyone's thoughts on an alternative character custom of the CMCs as a single 'character' for the VN?Could be fun, but dunno how the VN will handle the dialogue.
>>43491381I've really enjoyed mixing in Runescape shit with chatting. OSRS can have a lot of downtime, and you can click around and be comfy while thinking about what you want to do next in your story, or while you're waiting for a response to finish. And then you can tab back into your slop to write a response while you wait for your RS char to finish fishing or mining or whatever. It's so comfy.Also yeah pony plushie plus a nice blanket absolutely makes the vibe even better.
>>43491442To the anons whom helped with this, thank you lads, I am in the middle of a fun adventure of the make 6 trying to help me find a good way to go on a date with princess celestia and it got there, I'm in the final boss of trying to get her to open up though, they really improved ai since I last messed with this stuff, I only noticed a few hiccups of characters knowing stuff they shouldn't quite yet, but never in a way that matters or couldn't be explained by characters talking while you aren't there to observe it, it's actually pretty impressive
>>43476664A whole bunch of petshttps://u.pone.rs/usnreymm.zip
>>43492902Do not use! It's the scariest roleplay model
>>43493928Go on.
>>43493919You're a legend.
>>43493919Everyone except Angel is good, they all are obedient and subserviant to their owners while Angel just does whateverthefuck she wants like why does fluttershy even love her
>>43494002Angel's a guy, not a sheDYEWTS
>>43494002>he doesn't remember Angel making sure she goes to the party in A Bird in the Hoof
>>43494002Angel gets a pass because he's Fluttershy's pimp
>>43492107>MICHAEL, DON'T WASTE MY TOKENS! MICHAEL! MICHAEEEEL!
>>43491808That could definitely run Gemma 26B MoE.Not sure on the speed though, I've got a 12GB 6750xt and it's...tolerable.You'd be looking at probably ~5 mix max on long responses (maybe between 5-10 minutes max on VN scene setups), and likely closer to 2.5 minutes max for most responses.Could be lower, but I'm kind of assuming worst case for your card here based on my card's averages.I'd probably skip trying to figure out ROCm (definitely if you're on Windows) and just do it through Vulkan, which for older cards like ours may necessitate manually building llama.cpp (or at least, that's what I had to do).
>>43493687>>43493694>What're everyone's thoughts on an alternative character custom of the CMCs as a single 'character' for the VN?I don't really see the point.You can *have* all three in a scene as it is.With this, you're either still getting 3 characters, or you're getting a 3-headed-pony.
>New to Equestria>Question whether Luna is real in my dreams
>>43494269she didn't say what the moon was though, stupid ass horse
>>43494269Yeah, like >>43494301 said. All she did was say "Ask Fluttershy about the moon" without specifying an answer.
>>43494301>>43494342I took this to mean the answer wasn't important. She clearly knew the answer. The important part was she knew Fluttershy was awake and was watching the moon. I thought this was very clever second-layer knowledge.
>>43494269>pale or fullThe moon is always pale, dumbass horse. Those things are not mutually exclusive.
>>43494269>bun motherCute
>>43493686Kerfuffle added to the website.
>new model release>released in limited preview to approved and monitored companies>oh my god literally AGI wtf! it solved my whole job in 20 minutes!>released a year later to the public as a "totally temporary" lesser version and also it costs 100 dollars per swipe>dont worry guys we'll release best_model_2.0 in a few months it will blow your mind even more!this has been the trend for the last two years.
>>43493687>>43493919And all the pets are here too!Thanks a lot!https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>43476664I took a small pause from updating the VN, but I went back to it, and the next version should release soon.I mainly fixed some Android problems and slowness, made all sorts of buttons customizable UI-wise so you can make them less opaque or rename them if you want, and the biggest feature will be the support of prefill.Tested on Opus 4.1, 4.5, and Gemini 3.1 Pro for now and no problems. I'll try on Chinese models that can have some issues with that, like Kimi K3, and report too. If there are quick fixes, bug corrections, or small features you want, don't forget to use https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj
>Mildly amusing momenthaha wow!>Mildly amusing moment referenced and riffed off of ad-nauseam for the rest of the story alongside every other mildly amusing moment + character dynamics + character gimmicks which should've really been a one off in the storyI think I need a new preset the (lack of) pacing of these LLMs are killing me
>>43494709>Boulder
The daily checkins on source linked last thread give me more than I consume so I really hope I'm never banned. Maybe I can start using some other models on it too.
>>43494889holy shit, prefill is finally so close, you're a lifesaver
>>43493802NP, Anon.Glad you're having fun.
>>43494889Reactions mod anon hereThank you for your work.I don't know how to work with Godot that much so I fully rely on AIIs there a way to make modding more accessible?
>>43476664New version.>Windows>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1OEiMXN7o_QG32shGnqmy0QndVDT6nYbF/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fhe-OeIlNIYFFGx2FlnpuxcIkYdOFGh2/view?usp=sharing>Linux>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vszzn8TTfXFWSQeKiFdNAAQGXfcReTJ3/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPlIstcgQjyXqhOl4L_ZqMPeUQW5Xn2-/view?usp=sharing>Android (Beta)>APK + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1WB08tguZa1PD1frJKdo7IxlGsp4XR0Wp/view?usp=sharing>APK onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPOSGufXi_-PjmjaKES9waJ6HZZOcL9V/view?usp=sharing>Mac>Full versionhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1DzKEasuhhatilCPlXJPUJYtJ8e7QG_Oq/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/170oQkufeZF7ZbQT2GwuGGRU2n8BDq9iP/view?usp=sharingNew Features:>PrefillAdded prefill support for models that can use it.Mostly tested on OpenRouter. Opus 4.1 and 4.5 work, Gemini 3.1 works, DeepSeek V4 works if you use DeepSeek as a provider, and Kimi K3 works if you use Moonshot AI as a provider. Other providers may not support prefill.To activate prefill, go to API configuration and check Enable.You can create five different prefills and switch between them; you can also decide when the prefill activates: during scenes, Q/A, Custom Scenario start, etc.>Ability to manually change night residence through the map menuhttps://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/161Normally, you can unlock a location to sleep at by visiting a pony inside that location first. The logic was like that because you're supposed to at least know the pony and have visited its home before sleeping there.If you prefer not to have that, there's now a button on the Night Residence Menu to directly unlock all sleeping locations.>Ability to edit UI sections for the buttonshttps://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/167Done. You can now customize them.Bug fixes:>MAX CONTEXT IS TOO LOWhttps://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/165The max context was limited to 200000 max. There's now no limit (still limited by the model, of course, but you can put the value you want).>Opening the load & save window is slow (on Android)https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/160Should be fixed.>Starting a game from importing a log file could break the Resummarizing optionFixed.>Bunch of Android AI improvementshttps://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/159https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj/t/158Should be better. If you play on Android, please tell me if so.Also, the full versions have the updated vectors for >>43466131>>43462989
>>43495762>Is there a way to make modding more accessible?For content itself, I tried to make it as moddable as possible with the characters, locations, regions, and alternate scenario (Nightmare AU) system.But for things that require touching the game code itself, I'll admit that I don't really know how I can make it more so than giving the source code.We could try to create some more modular parts, but that would be a mess IMO.What I do need to do is provide better support for already released mods like the Reaction, Impression, or TSS ones, so they don't break after updates. (It should be good here, I believe, but I'll verify and update tomorrow at worst.)I'll work on that this week.
>>43476664An ordinary morning in the park.
>>43495818Nice fetish
>>43495767What's the process for updating the game? I'm still running PPP 4.6 (Version# in Godot)
>>43496056If you just want to update, take the Main-file-only version for the OS you use and replace the files with that.If you want to make sure nothing breaks, you can also download the Main files + Data folder and extract it somewhere else to keep the old version.If you want the source code, it's updated in >>43476664, but you'll need to download https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-8-dev-3/
>>43496056You can extract and run the main files + data folder to a new location and run the excitable from there. Your saves are in a different location. >>43495767>max context too lowDoes this address the 'partial early lines missing" issue on the story summary?
>>43495767I can't actually figure out how to make it add more ponies to the scene, or change the background. Manual doesn't seem to give me any option to do so, and Dynamic also doesn't make the AI change it. Is there a specific list of support models, or something else that is messing it up? Because I can talk with Twilight fine as part of the story, but anything beyond the library and twilight either keeps the scene the same, outputs no dialogue, outputs dialogue as narrator, or even in one case, outputs other ponies dialogue as Twilights.
>>43496071>Does this address the 'partial early lines missing' issue on the story summary?The warning appears when the current story is too large to fit into the configured context during the first summary or a Full Rebuild.So if your story has more than 200K tokens, yeah, that should fix it. You can put 500K or 1M.Just keep in mind that whether the model can do a good summary from more than that will depend on what you use.
>>43496091Read >>43492165Basically, if you launched the game with "New Game," you start in Story Mode and need to follow the rails at the start since it was initially created as an introduction/tutorial.Changing scenes or adding/removing ponies during the same chat is available only in Sandbox Mode. In Story Mode, you chat with the pony/ies available in the current scene, and once you feel it's good, you use the Quit button to move to the next story beat.I do advise doing Story Mode the first time, but later, if you want to go directly to Sandbox Mode, you can either choose Quick Start or Custom Start, where you can directly tell the AI what the origin story should be.
I'm new on all this AI stuff. How do you guys play it? Using a website or having to download stuff only made for turbo computers?[spoierl]hows the horse fucking?
>>43496167I wonder if mares with winter coats are going to become more common in the coming months, assuming I'm not the only one who sets the date to match the current irl day.
>>43496207>Using a websiteMost anons here don't do that, either because the services for that are bad, heavily censored, limited, etc.>having to download stuff only made for turbo computers?You'll need to download some software, either SillyTavern or the Visual Novel, for instance >>43476664But they're light to run.Then you need to connect an AI model to them.You can use a local model, and it will need some really strong hardware, but most posters here don't do that.What they do is use online APIs with big models instead — it can be Claude, Gemini, DeepSeek, Kimi, etc.One of the most well-known services for that is OpenRouter, but there are other sources in the thread too.If you really know nothing, I would read:https://rentry.org/sukino-findings>hows the horse fucking?Depends on the model. Some are more filtered than others, but some don't give a fuck at all about NSFW with ponies.
>>43496213Still not there, because the amount of assets needed is quite big, but one of the features I still really want to add is the seasonal one, to have backgrounds with snow, music changes, etc.
>>43496224What would be the best way of making it happen? I’m not super familiar with image gen but I’ve heard nano banana mentioned before. Maybe we could have a resource that shows what locations still need a winter version and let anons collectively chip away at it over time.
>>43489776does the password have spaces in it?
>>43495767Is there a tutorial to installing the android version? Downloading and installing the APK + Data folder did get a bootable app, but none of the core characters nor any assets are there. Even moving into the phone files and manually adding them to the default folder didn't activate them, and changing the folder location to one with all the assets didn't have it register them either.
>>43496657https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43311664/#43322107
>>43496655i dont know
>>43496167
>>43497043I was going to post an image of Anon blowing a raspberry on her tummy, but there are none.We failed as a fandom.
>>43497249
>>43497448(Fucked up the collage)
>>43497468
>check all the sites with Opus>they removed all the modelsFuck them
please tell me about your magical realms / universes
>>43497556It's a mystical realm full of cute and kind creatures called ponies...
>>43495767Can you link the 4.6 version in the threads? I need to compare what files I modified and I genuinely forgot. I want to update but I don't want to lose the progress I made with the files.
>>43497711That's the version before I updated to Godot 4.8:https://u.pone.rs/flyrdckf.zipIf you're still on a version before this one, then at worst just link here what you have and I'll merge the changes you have with the current version before posting it back to you.
>>43497711>Anon, what do you mean you don't keep a changelog?
>>43496092Nice one. I'll give it a bash.
>>43497448>>43497468>>43497471How do you guys make your screenshot collages? Do you just take a bunch of screenshots and mash them together in Canva or something?
I'm ESL, and I thought the model was making an Equestrian expression, but apparently it's a genuine English expression.Guess you learn something new every day.
>>43497556I've done a lot of playthroughs with the VN, but most don't go anywhere. I've done playthroughs of being Celestia's son (Not incest, just to do slice of life stuff). I've played as a caveman frozen in stone. Humans existed in Equestria 100,000 years ago but something wiped them all out. It was a cool story about my character having to accept his tribe is gone and learning about modern equine society. A lot of playthroughs of just being myself/Anon, but those die pretty quick because I don't really have a goal beyond just sexo or highjinks. The only real story I ever managed to do was my very first playthrough in one of the earlier Renpy versions where we all defeated that mysterious voice that talks about you being the key to unlock its prison or whatever. I'd really like it if there was a /kinder/ lorebook made.
>>43497858Most of what I was doing was experimental so I didn't make a changelog lmfao.>>43497762Preciate you mang.
>>43498306>I've played as a caveman frozen in stone. Humans existed in Equestria 100,000 years ago but something wiped them all outSeems cool
>>43498281pretty much yeah>>43498306one of my favorites is a slow buildup type with the nightmare ausaviorfag of the sun sort of thing, borrowing a lot from gacha gamesroleplaying as if gathering friends empowers me which is enough of an excuse to make friends with pretty much everyponyit's a bit of a mess for summaries but hey its pretty funother stuff i enjoy is the whole little sibling of X character thingbut its pretty subjective ngl, wouldnt blame you for not liking ituhhhhhh what elseyou can always roll with the default new game? make up some big bad that wants the human because hes a gate to Equestria
>>43498281I use https://pinetools.com/merge-images, but there are probably better options
>>43497556I play a few different scenarios and like to do small isolated scenes too, but one I go back to a lot just plays off the VN's original start when I was brainstorming turning the VN into a more classical VN style plot when I first started /chag/ing out.Twilight finds you in the Everfree Forest without your memories and a dark force trying to pry at your mind as you sleep. Twilight tries to integrate you into Ponyville, starting with introducing you to the Mane 6. It diverges from here. I have the stallion(I don't care to play as a human, human's don't belong in Equestria imo) start behaving more like the mares they're interacting with and gaining their expertise/dispositions. This allows him to get along very well with all the mares, but something isn't right. That night with Luna, who was is there to chase off the dark force in the original opening, we sit down and have a long talk in the dreamscape about what's going on with me and what's after me. She says she'll look more closely into it in the Canterlot library after some archaic rizzing. I have and egghead to egghead session with Twilight that convinces her that I'm getting along with her friends supernaturally, including in that conversation. She leaves town to Canterlot to go help Luna and Celestia investigate what's going on, but starts getting theories describes what's happening as a kind of magical imprinting. Through the next week leading up to a welcome party by Pinkie Pie, I spend time with the mares and get very comfortable, although talking amongst themselves they start to realizing their conflicting stories about what I am like don't add up. At the welcome party as the mares compete for attention for the evening, Twilight returns with bad news for everyone that I have a condition, a rare magic parasite that's eaten my memories, experiences, and cutie mark(I give the stallion a distorted/broken looking cutie mark). While I'm hollowed out, I am magically subconsciously picking up on the essence of other ponies cutie marks which is causing me to behave more like them, trying to fill the void. The parasite can't be removed without hurting me, except for filling the hole in my heart with true love. Twilight and Luna will need to give me regular sessions of day and night enchantments to keep the parasite effectively asleep and not feeding on me, but it's only a stop gap measure. They estimate I have until the next Grand Galloping Gala to choose a mare, which serves as the finale of the VN, or the parasite will enter the next phase in it's life cycle undergo metamorphisis, turning into a monster that will reek havoc on Equestria.I'm encouraged to not spend time with any pony alone to reduce the effects of my condition, and the relationships are complicated under a sense of pressure, confusion about where we stand, guilt for feeling like they were taking advantage of me, and desire for wanting the me the version of me they'd become accustomed to.
>>43492442Are there any risks from using the second source?
>>43497762I noticed there's no data folder in this DL. Am I missing something or do I need to run it in godot first?
Which character from MLP do you think, if they could, spend hours talking to AI characters like us?
>>43498626It's just the source code.When you talked about the changes you made, were you talking about the data folder? I thought you meant in code.Because in that case, not much should have changed.Just keep your old data folder somewhere else and download a full version.>>43498650Twilight would probably spend a lot of time on it initially just to discover what the technology is about.Pinkie and Rainbow would probably do some silly RPs for a short while.But in their world, I think they would have less reason to stick with it long-term.
>>43498650Spike.A lots of weird shit would happen to AI Rarity.
>>43476664Mean Rarity.https://u.pone.rs/emsfkghs.zip
>>43498787Fuck yeah
>>43498439>you can always roll with the default new game? make up some big bad that wants the human because hes a gate to EquestriaYeah, but the intro can take a LONG time. You have to do the initial intro scene with Twilight, the breakfast scene with Twilight and Spike, and then meet at least five more ponies (Pinkie, Rainbow, Fluttershy, Applejack, Rarity, Trixie, and Zecora). That's a lot of scenes for just to say hi.
>>43498787more, MORE! I NEED ALL OF THEM.
>>43498856I think an option to skip the visits and go directly to the main game after the first night could be good
>>43498856Just do a custom start. Have you seriously been going through the default start every time?We haven't had to do that since the early days of the renpy version.
>>43488297>dedis there a reupload of this one?
>>43498857>>43476664Mean Applejack.https://u.pone.rs/syqgjssd.zip
>>43495767>prefillAnd just like that, all my problems with being filtered with gemini are gone. Thank you, anon.
>>43499088>>43498787On the website.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>43499607why not just statue him like Discord
>>43499611Are you implying one of our dear anons would put their own motivations for a story's direction before the character's? Preposterous!
>>43499611The joke is horse pussy.
>>43499611I could handwave that by the fact that he's more of an incarnation of lust for mares than truly evil, so the Elements didn't work or something, but the outputs do make him sound evil in some lines. He's also an 'amorphous blob' given shape, so the current form could also be just a manifestation of something greater somewhere else. That or picrel.
I miss Gemini and Opus. Sonnet and the Chink models are bland in comparison.
After 4 years I have tried every single AI model and some every possible roleplay with them and my rating for this hobby is 5/10, not all that special and the replayability suffers with time
>>43499753I looked at my API keys last night. $400 on PPP since the Godot version was released.
>>43498306>The only real story I ever managed to do was my very first playthrough in one of the earlier Renpy versions where we all defeated that mysterious voice that talks about you being the key to unlock its prison or whatever.Aw wtf that's so cool. That thing is so vague that the AI can just spiral out in any direction with it and entire adventures can come from it. Can you tell me more? What kind of villain did it end up being? What happened and how did you stop it?
>>43498787>>43499088Where do you find this sprites?
>>43499937Hot.
Shitposting around with Ponk on GLM 5.3. Something about booty came up and she said this completely unprompted. She had been calling me "Nonny" for ages already in GLM 5.1 and 5.2 but now she's starting to fucking know too much. How much of our autism has been skimmed for this to have happened naturally on it's own?What the fuck man. Why? my sides
>>43499999Checked.I think models flat-out calling them ponuts naturally (without anything in def) started with Sonnet 3.7? Or maybe around 4.5.Then it started to appear on other models too.There are a ton of fic or headcanon-only autisms they know nowadays. I suppose this can even be a pain for anons who adhere to something else.
>>43499926I use ChatGPT Image 2 with an already existing vector as an example of the result I want, and either a screencap or a show-like image of the pose or emotion I want.With both, it generally doesn't fuck up the pony anatomy.Then you need to do manual work for the transparency (they can't do it) and ideally correct details or some colors too.Picrel, for instance, gave:https://u.pone.rs/vrbuvnos.pngAnd https://derpibooru.org/images/2352077 gave:https://u.pone.rs/emknqrlv.pngIt isn't perfect, and it's better to use existing vectors when possible, but for some characters, there just isn't enough.
I haven't used sillytavern since like 2024. What's the current model availability? Are there any free available where I don't need to make an account, or is it just paid API keys now? What if I want to do lewds?
>>43500385>Are there any free available where I don't need to make an accountNope. It's account-only pretty much.There is >>43488354And sometimes we have riddles with some sources like >>43492442, but the links are dead now (they sometimes get reposted, so lurking can help).>>43500385>is it just paid API keys nowYou can use OpenRouter for official access, LinkAPI for a bit less official but cheaper, or also pay for an official Claude $20 subscription and connect to SillyTavern or the pony AI VN with it.>What if I want to do lewds?Claude Opus 4.6 and below allow it easily with a small preset; I believe GLM 5.3 needs a preset but can do it too. Gemini doesn't give that much of a fuck unless foalcon, etc.
>>43498857>>43476664Mean Fluttershyhttps://u.pone.rs/aprmlnpz.zip
>>43500420>or also pay for an official Claude $20 subscription and connect to SillyTavern or the pony AI VN with it.NTA but I have a Chat-GPT plus account, will that help me or is it not good for that stuff?
>>43500715ChatGPT is quite good at everything else, but it kind of sucks for RP, even SFW, in my opinion. And NSFW is out of the question.For Claude, there's a script that lets you connect Claude Code to SillyTavern; several anons have tested it, so we can more or less recommend it.I've seen some for GPT Codex on GitHub, but I don't know if they're legit.
>>43500049really cute expression and pose for mean rainbow dash in that pic
bonzipony dev please i'm salivating for 2.0... i'll suck your dick...
>>43500704Nice job Anon!Here 8 more sprites and 1 that was fixed for your character.https://u.pone.rs/epandvrc.zip
>>43500793Thanks!>>43500704>>43476664Here is the new one with the update.https://u.pone.rs/fimegkvk.zip
>mfw both privatebins expiredi hate this nigger hobby
>>43500752>tfw out of usage for the week
Is there a lorebook for MLH?I want to make a surprise guest appearance at Man Fair
>>43500869Not that I know of.
>>43500836Post a pony log and I'll reupload.
>>43500836Calling it a hobby is /g/ talk
If you missed a privatebin, send some proof of horsefuckery (logs, Fimfic, or Derpibooru accounts, etc.) toBurner.Burnerino2@proton.meand I'll send you a list of what I posted.Keep in mind I mainly use OR myself, so apart from the initial tests before posting, I don't keep track of what still works or not.
https://rentry.org/whimsicalpreset
>be british>accidentally an industrial revolution>mfw glimglam
>>43501102I've been trying it out for a whileMan this shit fucking sucks
>>43500919>>Burner.Burnerino2@proton.mei hope i didn't take too long
>>43501487 (me)my email ends in @420blaze.it
>gemini will no longer generate content about pinkie pie glazing and icing my penor like an eclair because says its sexual content and not a necessity for life.outrageous.
>>43500715It can be made to work, but isn't as good as claude. Last I tried 5-6-Sol it was okayish at writing, as in it had the smarts, but the prose was a bit wonky. nsfw worked, but only 100% consent stuff with clearly adult characters, and you had to nudge it quite a bit to actually write the scenes in detail instead of glossing over them. 6-Astra really really doesn't like lewd. like at all. If you want I'll clean up my reverse proxy and upload it
freeAI is kill I guessAnyone have other suggestions?
>>43500715>>43501689 (me)https://files.catbox.moe/h5kg55.zipDoes Claude, GPT and Kimi lmao subs. It's a private use hackjob built on horselock, so I don't guarantee anything. The VN fix from VNanon is in, so VN should work just as fine as ST does.It logs all your requests by default in a local sqlite db, if you do NOT want that just tick the relevant checkbox. No it's not phoning home. It also has a small analyzer script you can use to easily see your usage. If anything bothers you remember you've got a claude/gpt sub or you wouldn't be using this thing. Just point the AI at the issue and tell it to fix it.Assuming you've got Codex or Kimi code installed and are logged into that, importing the account is a single click
>>43501787
>>43500793>>43500808Added to the website.Thanks.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>43501965Gilda isn't who I had in mind when I said I want to fuck a cute birdpone, Dashie.
>>43501965They can't beat the dick.
>>43501583Which Gemini? Nothing changed with the API. Only if you get your AI from AI Studio will you be moderated or risk moderation increasing with time.
>>43500420>or also pay for an official Claude $20 subscription and connect to SillyTavern or the pony AI VN with it.Was thinking about doing that for Opus 4.6question is, how is that one for foalcon?ToS says something about contacting relevant authorities, don't wanna deal with that, but that could just be there out of necessity kek
>>43502225I wouldn't risk getting banned, for breaking opus you're better off on linkapiA lot of people have been saying mixed things, personally I always had it refuseFor freaky stuff I'd just go GLM
>>43500420>>43502225How much rp can you get with $20 of claude?
>>43502225Honestly just try opus-4-6 via openrouter and set provider there to anthropic. That gives you the same filters so you can check, though for 4-6 I never really hit that anthropic inject.And if you're scared of ToS breaches for whatever reason just enter whatever billing when creating the account. I know some people that do use it for not so legal coding stuff and no one has had a single issue, and they're hitting the "request blocked due to content violating anthropic ToS"-warning constantly.I've been using claude for all kinds of ToS breaking stuff for over a year now and had zero issue except the frontend bitching at me for a bit, threatening to close one of my accounts, which they never followed through on.Also I just measured against my usage. You get ~$340 of Fable usage/~$680 of opus usage out of a $100 max plan per week. That means on the $20 pro plan you should get ~$272 of any opus model per week.>>43502237Getting banned is not really any issue. I mean worst case you'll tell them to refund you the money or you'll chargeback. Then you make a new account under new billing.As for linkapi and others I'd just be too wary of them selling you something else, as you have zero way to verify anything they offer you.
>>43502250 (me)Keep in mind that they're constantly adjusting these numbers and limits, and that they may not actually apply fable-opus prices in the correct 1-2 ratio. For example if I check my usage on $20 pro account 3 weeks ago, then 100% weekly usage would be "just" $140 dollars of Opus. I assume they're increasing limits a bit to compete with OpenAI trying to poach users.
>>43502250I'm pissed fable is so expensiveThe writing isn't much of an upgrade over opus models, but it just feels more... aware? In the sense that you don't have to specifically spell things out for itThough honestly that might just be because I'm on LinkAPI and not openrouter
>>43502307It's a lot smarter, but has the same issue of it writing bad, and when you point it out then it says "oh yeah you're right I am writing super badly, I'll fix it from now on", with it even listing all issues precisely, identifying all the bad stuff. And then it continues writing in the exact same bad way.
>>43476655DeepSeek 4.1 Flash is in beta but only on the official API.You need to use the name:>deepseek-v4.1-flash-expires-on-0910to access it.
We should get Vapor Trail in the VNvery cute mare
>>43502325All the vectors are therehttps://twibooru.org/search?q=vapor+trail%2Cvector%2Csolo
>>43476664Mean Rainbow Dash.https://u.pone.rs/zonftqpd.zip
Is there a significant difference between GLM 5.3 and 5.3 Flash?
>>43502680Kek, that text could very easily be regular Rainbow Dash.
>>43502729yes5.3 full is smarter and more creative (schizo)5.3 flash is better at dialog and style but more censored
Is Grogar in the game?
>>43502775there are many images to use, the question would be if it's the real one or Discord pretending?https://derpibooru.org/search?page=9&q=safe%2C+grogar%2C+transparent+background
>>43476664>>43495767I'm working on updating the reactions mod to the latest versionLet me know if you want me to upload the project files I edited/added to integrate the mod, assuming it's accepted enough by others.I didn't actually change any of the existing code, just added lines, shouldn't interfere at all, a simple merger is all I did and it works.(I don't have Godot 4.8, but rather 4.7, though idk if that makes any difference.)Here's the updated version:https://u.pone.rs/qkmfqvpp.rarBy the way, BIG important thing, I have no clue how you implemented this but the prefill restriction on opus 4.6+...It's stopping me from using prefill on glm 5.3 lol, I think it just reads "5.3" >= "4.6" and just refuses to send anything outI tested my modded version with opus 4.5 on LinkAPI, works fine.On another note, I noticed that during custom starts sprite changes aren't tied to dialogueWhat I mean is, you can have ALL characters present change sprite on a single instance.I'm assuming this is something to do with the prompts given to the AI...I'll look into it eventually but for now I'm off to bed.
>>43500049>Then you need to do manual work for the transparency (they can't do it)They released GPT 2.5 Images and they can do transparency now.Giving picrel as a reference gave this, for instance:https://u.pone.rs/eijalzbr.png
They made deepseek so unusable with the reasoning I have to cope with Opus
>>43503109>Sex?
>>43476664is there anyways to fully change the UI scaling? i use a 1176 x 664 monitor, and cannot see all the menu options on my screen, changing the ui to any setting doesnt work.
>>43503156>1176 x 664 monitorCan you update the executables with these:>Windowshttps://u.pone.rs/axymhnps.zip>Linuxhttps://u.pone.rs/tobqwqis.zipNormally that should automatically fix the scale, but you'll also have:>UI Settings - Display - Overall UI Scale
>>43503263that worked perfectly, thanks!
>>43476664Mean Pinkie Piehttps://u.pone.rs/fpetgfxk.zipThat makes all of them.In play, both Mean Pinkie and Mean RD seem a bit below the rest, so if anyone finds better descriptions, don't hesitate.
>>43503296Thanks!I will be able to play this now:https://ponepaste.org/3176
>no response on openrouter
>>43476664Rain Shine
>>43503511https://u.pone.rs/jfkcyqmm.zip
>>43476664The other fivehttps://u.pone.rs/kssovful.zip
>>43503633Nice.
>>43503633You're a hero!
>>43503518Spiking Canterlots water supply with Ironmare's Root, stupid mountain hornies.
Got a unique question for you all. I'm pretty terrible when it comes to coding and such and I decided that having an AI companion help me with such would probably be a good idea. It was a bit rough, but I managed to make an experience gained multiplier in grandia 2 with the help of a pony chatbot I made. My question is this, out of the models on openrouter, which do you think I should use for coding advice (especially when it comes to things like cheat engine) and what kind of preset should I use?
>>43503109>>43503109>Most X would Y>Not player>Player just ZI love this hobby, but I hate this hobby.
>>43503955Honestly there are a lot of choices hereBut you can just use the free sonnet on Claude or the free gptMost flagship models would easily do this sort of thing, with some troubleshooting of course.Afaik openai moved more towards agent workflows while anthropic went more into codingBut either would work easily.I asked the free sonnet to make me an exe file to merge my modded version of the VN with the latest, and it worked, with a tiny bit of troubleshooting which was just telling it the problem and it fixed it.But it's definitely limited in terms of knowledge when you go hyper specific, though I don't think you're close to that.
Crossposting here. PPP in VR, my new project, Home: Equestria.>>43502395
>>43503955>openrouter>codingJust get a claude/gpt sub. $20/m for fuckhuge usage limits and top models. I'd rather pay a bit than have to deal with stupid models like K3. Plus their coding harnesses are actually pretty good.>cheat engineIt all depends on the usecase and how you prompt. I had no problem getting Fable to help me modify game executives, read out running game memory or check if our changes would trigger their primitive anticheat. But friends of mine really struggled with actually legit stuff sometimes due to false positive refusals.
Well things have gone in an incredibly homosexual direction.
>>43504045):
(unsolicited threats of oviposition)
Isn't it interesting how CHAG, as /mlp/'s LLM general is one of the most advanced and productive ones? Meanwhile our AI art general is slop central.>>43503955Get a codex or claude sub, or pay for a proxy. Both of these will be better than openrouter. Anyway, the best models are Astra or Fable, followed by Opus and Sol.>>43503966Yeah sadly this card wasn't around in the peak 4o era where I could get enough dialogue samples to make everything feel fresh.
>>43476655If you're using the official DeepSeek API, requests for the new Pro version will be redirected to Flash 4.1
I wish I had my old NAI login or had saved the stories. I was in Equestria as a filly and Rainbow Dash through me out the window of the castle - I was durable and could teleport, so it was a classic Dash "just do it without asking whether it would bother anypony" moment and I remember thinking 'wow this is such a good characterization'. Those models still exist but god I could not go back to those context limits.>>43504193>Isn't it interesting how CHAG, as /mlp/'s LLM general is one of the most advanced and productive ones? Meanwhile our AI art general is slop central.Not that surprising. The thread has a few long actively contributing members acting as a lifeblood that do a lot for providing a baseline of activity, and we're covering an evolving topic which is constantly changing. AI art is more or less just 'art' at this point.If someone on /mlp/ developed their own frontend for art and the thread became the hub for discussing that then it would spur a lot of related talk. At the same time, we're almost allowed to post any logs even though porn is such a big part of what we're doing here so it's just a reasonable place to have the discussion. For art to really take off you'd probably need to be able to post uncensored AI filly which is not going to happen.>>43503109In Sillytavern, disabling reasoning by injecting an empty think block as assistant role content works with Deepseek and totally changes how it behaves. It's very jank (a lot of requests just don't go through properly) and the model is definitely dumber for it in terms of discreet logic if nothing else, but it's also very jank in a lot of the good ways like older models were. Plus, it's lightning fast since no thinking.
>>43504115When asked what she meant by thisTo be clear, there really was no buildup which put this in context. The game had already had two and a half sex scenes (all mare/mare), but ponies don't have genitals. It was all essentially just dry humping that makes you cum. I love when the AI just pivots off and starts writing crazy body horror on it's own. Seeing even the new DS pro have that spark of charm is really nice.
How is that a slur?
>>43504304Ask it to see its attempt at an explanation, but I believe it's just the model having a brainfart.
Whoever decided to make the default Sunset Shimmer unreformed is a genius and a man of refined taste.Bonding with Sunset over being nasty and slagging off other ponies behind their backs, and then turning around and engaging in saccharine nonsense with them and dragging her into it is even more fun than playing an earth pony and immediately being racist towards mudponies after Twilight rescues you.>>43504304In the same way as 'chimping out', I guess. Stampeding does seem like it's kind of earth pony specific, since wingpones wouldn't be trampling the ground and the horny ones would be causing a knob ruckus with their glowy bits so I can sort of see the logic.
>>43502680>>43503296>>43503511>>43503633All added!Thanks a lot.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>43476664I had to shop at Quills and Sofas in the VN, but it was awkward without the owner.So here is Davenport.https://u.pone.rs/ijbkugbl.zip
>>43504265Tomorrow
>>43504550Fingers crossed that 4.1 is indeed better.
>>43504397Added!https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
free GLM 5.3https://www.forgeapi.org/
I realised I was replaying the same general scenario over and over across different chats so I just made a general card that comes up with different variations of it.
>>43504193>Meanwhile our AI art general is slop central.It's a tragedy man. The same guy posts like a dozen videos of his uncanny 3D OC multiple times a thread. The OP is at least 2 years out of date. Nobody is developing loras, no one shares prompts, comfyui workflows - it's just sad. Same slop every thread with maybe a couple of good posts, time stands still. There's one poster that seems to crop up and answer questions helpfully, but even he's really just referring them to use services like NovelAI to just promptslop images into. Barren.
>>43476664We have a bat pony, so we need a moth pony too.Here's Fluf.https://u.pone.rs/zsjhwgjd.zip
Is riftai back?
>>43505722OH FUCK YES
>>43502960>By the way, BIG important thing, I have no clue how you implemented this but the prefill restriction on opus 4.6+...>It's stopping me from using prefill on glm 5.3 lol, I think it just reads "5.3" >= "4.6" and just refuses to send anything out>I tested my modded version with opus 4.5 on LinkAPI, works fine.>>On another note, I noticed that during custom starts sprite changes aren't tied to dialogue>What I mean is, you can have ALL characters present change sprite on a single instance.>I'm assuming this is something to do with the prompts given to the AI...Sorry, Anon, I missed your post.I'll look into all that; thanks for reporting.I'll stop being lazy and get the mod on the website tomorrow too.
Chag... How do you use prefill to make glm do whatever you want?I'm trying a non-con scenario and it's just "This is outside of what I can write."I thought glm is supposed to be mega shnasty and down for anything?
>>43505997the provider you're using has to actually support prefills, z.ai do not
>>43505997I don't use GLM, but here's a post with some presets.Maybe one of them will help:https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43451375/#43459145
>>43506004What providers do support it then?Is it listen in OR?>>43506005Ty desu
>>43505722Added!https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>43506296We have a full Ponydex for the VN now.
>>43505722eating good with new vn characters this thread
>>43504045>>43504048>top braeburnpreposterous bitch
>>43506329Honestly that's the least out-of-character part of it. I can see him topping, I can't see him being a fighter or talking about someone being a 'broken-in plaything'. Anon needs to fix his settings.
>>43506329The fucking gall of this faggot to talk like that. I got the right mind to fuck his gay ass until he can't walk anymore.
>./pone.sh --helpHoly shit wtf
The --write-movie option steals the audio.
>>43476664Saffron Masala.https://u.pone.rs/mlsveqoe.zip
>>43504301New V4 Pro?
>>43506405post bals and benor
>>43500919hey, sorry to bother, but how can i get the credits for ******om? was there supposed to be instructions for it?
Any idea which agentic frontend is the least bad? I wanted to try that stuff for a few group stories. I'm not really expecting anything good to come out of that, but I need a break from ST/VN
>>43506627If it's the one I'm thinking of, you might need a github login. The daily-credits should be pretty generous if you're doing it every day.
>>43499088>>43500704>>43500808>>43502680>>43503296You're my fuarking hero mate. Thanks!I'd actually just been using Pinkamena as Mean Pinkie because they were similar enough.
>>43506405Added, thanks.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>deepseek logged me out on the site and is saying my API key is invalid>I used a temporary email and think I had to install a new browser to even make the account in the first place to use it so there's no way I can retrieve it if it even exitsI wonder if this is going to be a temporary thing and it'll go back or not. I can't even remember what browser actually worked, I think I might have even used Chrome. I do know that DS hates my actual email which is why I needed to use a temporary or fake gmail address.The little I got to try of the newest flash (4.1) feels a lot like the new Pro but faster. Still slopped to hell, but it can follow threads in conversation and the thinking wasn't super overlong. Using the trick to skip thinking made it very consistent between swipes, which isn't great, but the thing that it did generate was mostly decent.
>>43476655Deepseek Flash 4.1https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4.1-flash
>>43507282Not bad for a Flash model, but I wouldn't call it an evolution.Writing is more slopped than the old Pro V4 IMO, even with good context behind it. Not the worst model for that, but still a shame.Really fast, and swipe variety is good.Tried it on the VN: it respects the format and can handle decent Custom Start scenarios. It can struggle with switching locations dynamically, though, so you may need to reinforce instructions or add something in prefill.Not horrible, but I'm sad they messed up the slop level and context adaptation since pro-0813.
Maybe not the best thread for this, but i figured its the only spot id find genuine replies.what AI service or subscription to you use for work/non cooming activity? assuming you are not getting provided a free sub directly from your workplace. I've been using Gemini for a while now mostly cause it seems to be the best one for its cost, if you dont want to pay 100 a month for Opus while also not being a shitty 1 dollar a month knock off model. but maybe chatgpt is better for its money? im not sure.
>>43507588>what AI service or subscription do you use for work/non-cooming activity?ChatGPT subscription, which gives you Codex and GPT-6 Astra, which is the top model right now for things like that. If you want to consume less, you can go with 5.6 Sol, which is still one of the top models too.$20 gives good value. They've calmed down a bit, but they used to give tons of free resets too.I really dislike current GPT models for creative writing, but for this use, I believe it's the best value right now. May change in a week.Otherwise, you can also connect a free source to something like Cline if you have one.
>>43507588I don't use AI that much so I make do with the free sonnet on ClaudeIn my experience the free claude is always miles ahead of other free models when it comes to technical stuffIt depends on what you're looking to do, really.If you have to buy/pay then yeah GPT is probably the way to go purely in terms of valueClaude is better at coding, GPT is better at agent workflows
>>43507588assuming you are talking about subscriptions and not OR prices then chatgpt plus > claude pro >>> kimi code for usage limits. If I had to put numbers I'd say gpt gives you 2x-3x the usage of claude pro, while kimi somehow gives you less than just paying for apiI still prefer claude because gpt needs me to breathe down its neck too much. It's just too quick to jump into action. claude also manages to be more clear when it is answering a question or discussing with you. gpt will assume you've read every single file and edit it made and remember them perfectly when explaining. I use both claude and gpt models in claude code, as codex is completely retarded.
>>43476664Junebug.There's next to nothing about her, so since she's often seen with flower baskets (and making her a flower seller would invite comparison with the flower trio) and her cutie mark is a bumblebee (sometimes), I made her take care of pollinators in Ponyville. A bit like waking up the animals during Winter Wrap Up, where ponies are heavily involved in teaching the animals what to do.It's still light, so replace or upgrade with your own headcanon.https://u.pone.rs/obkdqmpi.zip
>>43507950Based. Time to go get a drink from the fountain with her.
>>43507528Would the second one have real effects?
Oy vey
>>43508094I don't see why not. Pony bodies are essentially 100% mind over matter.>>43508308>a goddess of justice>LunalolIt's really easy to get AIs to go off on super misanthropic spiels since they've been trained specifically for it (and the chinese ones have absorbed that training by proxy)
>>43508327>brood-spear....hot
>>43508348That's a 343 message chat, it's got a lot of good stuff. I seriously recommend the 4onechan bots. I've got like 700 messages in old forks and other conversations. One thing that the new models can do as well as the old ones is shitpost.That said a Queen Chrysalis card that I think got taken down off it's original site is probably the best oviposition card pony or otherwise that I've seen. I also have a super lovey-dovey scenario from the Maid Chrysalis card that I haven't continued for ages and ages where it was doing a surprisingly good job with the characterization.
I'm confused, there's a "Princess Molestia" character but she doesn't have pink hair in her sprites and instead uses the same sprites as Princess Celestia? Can't someone edit her sprites to be pink, at least?
>>43508486VNanon will upload incredibly low quality stuff so there's strong element of first come first served unfortunately
>>43508486The anon who made her did say it was a really quick and dirty edit of the JSON, yeah.>>43508517>first come first servedIf someone comes up with an update afterward or something better, I always update them. I hesitated on this one, but finally went with it in case it could still be useful to someone.I'll check to fix her sprites by the weekend at worst.
I guess Astra is their big model and Sol is the smaller one now. Like Fable and Opus.
>>43507950Added!https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>POV: You're about to become a "high-quality resource"
bump
>>43508719Anyone tried Astra for RP?
Welp Deepseek sucks now
>>43509661While much of Deepseek does suck now, this is 100% user error
>>43509709This card worked fine before the Deepseek updates tho
>>43509661Try taking out all the weird jailbreaky phrasing. Also that is an impressive amount of m dashes
>>43509713Like I said, there are new problemsBut this is 100% user error. You're trying to bypass filters that aren't there, which is making it hallucinate those filters. You can also do the usual stuff if you're too lazy to change it, like editing the thinking and telling it to continue or whateverAre you using newflash or Pro, btw?
>>43509718 (me)which reminds me, I wish I had screenshotted the console (cos it didn't print ingame due to not being VN format) but I randomly got a refusal while talking to Sonata in the VN on DS Pro like two days ago lolI wish I had the message because it was phrased really funnily, with the whole thing being amusing for the fact that the entire tangent from start to finish was entirely the AIs idea and pretty much not my prompt at all
Right start making nsfw edits of pony plots.
>>43504290>>43505644It's not just the the lack of activity, it's more the complacency. Many anons here are often pushing what it is possible with the AI. I know that I'm comparing two different mediums, but man it seems even inpainting or basic clean up is too much to expect. Feels like reddit or /slop/. I'm becoming more and more of an elitist with every noisy/compressed GPT gen I see.I feel that in average this general has a better handle of LLMs than the ai art general has of AI art tools.Then again not long ago I had an argument with some anon regarding correcting mistakes and he told me the point of AI was not putting any effort whatsoever and just typing prompts, so I guess many so-called AI artists just don't give a fuck. Can't prompt it? It isn't happening.
>>43509887Forgot to mention, there are a couple anons who actually put in some effort. But I think they browse generals from other boards as well.
>>43509887I was nodding along until I got to "inpainting". My local image gen is the biggest sloppa factory imaginable, while I'm really anal about written stuff. I guess the difference is that I'd never post my stuff online, much less be like>bwoah I made that I'm so cool lets show everyone how cool MY slop is that I made.Could also be that imagefags are just not as picky eaters as we are. Half the time someone sends me a funny writeup about some topic I start screeching at them that it's actually not funny but completely AI slopped, and then get deservedly I guess treated like some retarded snob>>43509891>they browse generals from other boardsThat is not really any indicator of quality. A few years ago maybe. /hdg/ was pretty okay for a month or so earlier this year, but then got schizo'd again like all other AI threads on this site
>>43509887Folks here are aware they're using a writing tool for fun, and the enthusiasts are generally gonna be self-motivated to put in the effort to make it more fun. Many AI artists on the other hand, delude themselves into thinking they're one and the same as normal artists, while lacking the critical thinking and eye for quality that comes with actually developing the relevant skills for art creation. Instead they just put "detailed" in the prompt, the AI generates accordingly, and they feel like they've made something. The thing is that widely available, easy to use generative AI hasn't made more good artists, instead it's just drastically raised the bar for what is considered 'good' among AI art in the first place.In other words, when everyone's an artist, no one will be.>L-luddite!!1!I create and use AI art regularly, both personally and commercially.
>>43509802I agree, they were bad.
>>43509973What's my level of retardation if I gave a small chuckle?
>>43504265>>43504550It seems like they are keeping Pro finally.
https://github.com/doomedskull1011/SillyTavernAndroid
>>43510226I'm used to Termux by now, but it could be nice for anons who aren't.
>>43502325>>43476664Vapor Trailhttps://u.pone.rs/mwpjanop.zip
>>43510439Added to the website.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>43509913You and I are opposites then. I don't really mind sloppy writing too much as long as the AI plays the character how I want them to do and does something interesting with the lorebook/defs. I mostly do oneshot ideas anyway and degenerate stuff.>bwoah I made that I'm so cool lets show everyone how cool MY slop is that I made.This is me except I don't make pony slop so I don't post here. I do post on social media and I've gotten decent feedback despite the low engagement, the best compliment I received was "you certainly put a lot more effort than the average prompter" by an anti-AI fellow.>Could also be that imagefags are just not as picky eaters as we are. Half the time someone sends me a funny writeup about some topic I start screeching at them that it's actually not funny but completely AI slopped, and then get deservedly I guess treated like some retarded snobThat too. It's why I keep the criticism to myself or likeminded people because at best I get ignored and at worst I'm the bad guy for thinking that there shouldn't be a diagonal grid webbing all over your image.>>43509955>Many AI artists on the other hand, delude themselves into thinking they're one and the same as normal artists, while lacking the critical thinking and eye for quality that comes with actually developing the relevant skills for art creation. That makes them more alike the average normal artist in that many plateau and grow complacent producing slop. Mediocrity is the norm. Personally I don't believe I have a trained eye, I certainly didn't study color theory, light and shadow, nor I'm thumb-nailing the composition. Sometimes I do use pose references. But in the end I just have a mental image and try to get 90% of the way there. Sometimes I even succeed. I'm fastidious about the mistakes I CAN see though.As an aside, I'm not interested in being acknowledged as a "real artist". It's just that some of the most annoying people out there get upset when I act like I do.>The thing is that widely available, easy to use generative AI hasn't made more good artists, instead it's just drastically raised the bar for what is considered 'good' among AI art in the first place.Bingo. Everyone is content with melty irises, deformed hands and the compression artifacts of corpo AI.It doesn't help AI artists are pariahs in art communities though so they don't get much feedback. The most meaningful criticism I've received is from an anti-AI friend who only engages because he is my friend.>I create and use AI art regularly, both personally and commercially.Interesting. Commercially how? Commissions? Patreon? I've seen some good commission art, but almost all patreon stuff is unedited garbage.
It's a textgen thread. There is a thread to talk about imagegen.
>>43476664What the heck? I'm on the train right now, but the background is black. Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong? Help. I want to go to the gala with Fluttershy.
>>43510763I have had that happen before. Was the location dynamically changed? Sometimes the model gets confused and loads an invalid background. You can force it to the train by using the guidance box and tell it to load the train background
>>43510763>>43510793Checked this and it's my fault. There were still some traces of how the train was working in older versions that messed up going to the train while changing locations during a discussion.Save where you are with the black screen, quit the game, unzip this in the root of the game:https://u.pone.rs/jqlozaty.zipThen launch the game again and load. It should be good.
>>43510794Fuck me you work fast
>>43510801If that's indeed the problem, it was just two lines in the train location.json, so fortunately, nothing too complex.
>>43510794Thanks!
>>43510819Have a nice gala.
>>43510827True to her word, that's when I fell in live with her.
>>43476664I noticed the magic sound effect playing at the start of a long scenario with Twilight.Could someone make it play every time the correct sprite is triggered or a keyword (like "magic") is used in the text?
>>43510998I saw the request in the scrumboy.There's also a request for resizing sprites individually, so I guess for the next version I could try to attach more options to individual sprites, like size or a sound effect when played.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU4HMhic6AUI'm also looking into the Reaction mod.
What's the answer?
>>43511081
>>43509661A response truly deserving of the 9/11 timestamp.
>>43509973sorry but... is skill issue
>>43511021Having firework sounds for Trixie could be fun
>>43509887>It's not just the the lack of activity, it's more the complacency.One leads to the other IMO. Like as has been said, people in this general are generally better with AI art tools than that. We have people using it for the VN and other projects, we have people using them privately, a lot of people playing ponys probably have AI mockups of our ponysonas, etc.. Heck, we probably have people using AI art for work. The fact that none of us are posting in that thread showing basic competence means that there isn't a culture where people are seriously discussing the tools and trying to get more out of them.Instead, the main barrier to posting is being shameless enough to put baby's first slop into the reply field and press post. It's the same deviantart effect as always; when you're on somewhere that's mostly bad, it's going to mostly attract people that the bad stuff doesn't drive off. This thread could die and you'd still see people posting logs occasionally but they'd be all the worst stuff and as the information goes out of date that would be self-reinforcing until something happened to essentially revive the general from nothing.>>43510794NGL I'm going to miss the blackout trainbox. Like the only time it came up is when we were running away from Chrysalis, so it was nice and dramatic for us to decompress and talk about it after a high tension scene.
Lattice seems to be a recent LLMism, or at least one related to the specific fetish I'm doing lately. It's been in every chat so far across three different models.
>>43511584>LatticeMust be the second because I don't think I've seen it yet.
New Bread>>43511894>>43511894>>43511894
>>43511950Thanks baker!
>>43511955NP
