How do we handle the fact that AI artists grow faster than regular artists in the fandom these days? Should we get a campaign going to promote regular artists? It bothers me to no end that an AI artist can have 8k followers in a year while a legit artist making adorable lunas like Nnaly is only at 6k
>>43520578/bale/
>>43520578>AIslopCommission an artist.
Bait thread
>>43520578go back to xittersky faggot
>>43520578This kind of slidefaggotry is worse than the posts that don't even invite discussion of any kind.
>complaining about AI>all while using an AI picture
>>43520578Yikes y'all. Do better.
>>43520578I love AI.
>>43520613This triggers me more than anything.
>>43521261>he says while sliding the board
>>43520578I got 500 followers from drawing sfw pones on shitter and I think AI pones do deserve thousands, because they are SEXY, very few smut artists have appealing faces and bodies.
>>43520578What AI account has 8k followers? Why bother following something you can do yourself more tuned to your tastes anyway?
>>43520578 (OP)#The bitter red pill is that one of the biggest reasons AI took off like it has is because most artists today grew up on Calarts and cheaply produced anime/manga and because of this cannot actually draw anything but animu and overly stylized caricature.I noticed long ago that the shitty artists and 3Dfags are the ones that rage about AI, and the good artists are still getting commissions, and they seem to be the least concerned about AI.
>>43521294How?
>>43520578My luna gens also have red curtains.
>>43521474meanwhile celuniamoon is over there spamming omission posts because she gets so many. Sad times bros.
>>43521474Real artists have nothing to fear from AI. Only furfags making fetish coommissions do.
>>43520578>AI artists grow faster than regular artists in the fandom these daysNever been the case and never will. For every AI artist that makes it there are 20 that never broke three digits in following. They can't participate on the usual games and networking traditional artists do either. The only ones who regularly make it are those who pretend to not use AI.
>>43521708>networking>not just posting pony ass This is why they fail. No one wants to know about you. They just want your content.
>>43521294>>43521708celjewnia
>>43520589Get a real job. You've been replaced.
>>43520578The followers of that slop are genuinly subhuman and true artist are better without them anon, 60% of them are probably not even human but bots.
>>43521899seethe luddite.
>>43520578AI is basically a recolor of existing art.Photoshopping an image into another character is faster than prompting, but you're still not the creator.Also some artists gets the thing done faster than AI because AI is just the prompt and it's a lengthy process and a waste of time and energy.
>>43521570>sheHe. I had a discussion with Celunia, he pretends a lot of things to shill commissions, but what's most worrying is his obsession against artists, he's always up to ruin their reputation (Pabbley, Algo, Spoonie, Batsy...) He's a schizo pretending the fandom is controlled by some kind of pedophile elite.
>>43520578I like AI because it only weeds out those 90% artists that could only make AI quality anyway. The true creative artists won't be replaced by AI and they know that and aren't afraid of AI.
>>43521570>celuniamoon is over there spamming omission posts because she gets so manylol that ainigger cannot do anything more than click "pony, female, solo, white background" and touch up whatever the slopmachine shits out
>>43520578Just accept the fact that you have been replaced by a computer, invented by a system to whom you were never anything more than cattle.
>>43520578I like AI because it lets me express myself and share my vision without needing to spend hundreds of hours practicing and honing fine motor skills.
>>43522040Understand you're retarded enough to ignore everything about AI.The only thing you succeeded is uniting artists. Against you. Around a tech that didn't evolve much since 2024 and is literally stuck.
>>43522044This is genuinely the equivalent of niggers saying "I use chat gpt inside my mind"
>>43522044if AI was what it took to get you to express yourself, then you didn't have much worthwhile to express in the first place
>>43521975>retweets artists>does foalcon commissions My dad works at nintendo too anon.
>>43522006>unicorn coming out of the her eyebrow O...okay anon. Mommy will still give you a gold star I promise.
>>43522045>The only thing you succeeded is uniting artists. Against you.lol you mean the people who are notoriously poor and powerless?
>>43521708>They can't participate on the usual games and networking traditional artists do either.Aaaaahahahahahahahaha LITERALLY admitting his artist shit is just a circlejerk
>>43521975>He's a schizo pretending the fandom is controlled by some kind of pedophile elite.Said the obvious schizo. Pills, now.
>>43521757I'm not sure how it was unclear the first time, but I'll try again: They (any artist) need to network because algorithms on almost all sites are shit for art and won't lead to any growth. You can post content all you want, but without a following you are posting into the void hoping for that 1 in a million chance the algorithm is in your favor at the right time. The only consistent way to get out of that pit is by having someone with followers share your shit at the start.>>43522020That admittedly still puts him around the same level of creativity as the average twitter artist>>43522045>The only thing you succeeded is uniting artists. Against you. What have these "united artists" accomplished besides bitching and moaning online? Cara got scraped and many were shocked because they're honest to God retards who don't know how the internet works. The most they can do is make shitty content about how evil AI is and reposting the same misinformation they get from TikTok. That or just call everything AI slop. They should stick to making entertaining content, who knows, they may become good enough to not be replaced by a jeet spending half his monthly salary in AI generated videos.>Around a tech that didn't evolve much since 2024 and is literally stuck.What is it with Anti-AI people and being allergic to being informed?>>43522126>HisI decided since 2016 that I'd never take the title of "artist" no matter what I made because I loathe the kind of niggers who usually tout that title online. But yes, it's a circlejerk that elevates the egos of some people who end up believing they are extra especial solely because they decided to practice this one skill regardless of the actual quality of their ideas. You don't see anywhere near the same level of undeserved ego from a programmer, or even a writer, as you see from someone making doodles. It is why AI chafes many of them so much, I've seen more than one confess that knowing AI can generate images easily makes them want to throw it all away. Bitch mindset.That said, if I ever decide to become an AI peddler and milk retards for patreon bucks I'd call myself an artist because it upsets the most annoying people online.
>>43522154>wordswordswords >N-no, I'm n-not seething!
>>43522155I certainly get annoyed at retards online. But for proud illiterates coping like you all I feel is pity.
>>43520578You don't. If people want to consume massproduced schlock, they'll do so, i.e. supply and demand. I personally don't interact with AI """art""" at all. It all looks so stylistically samey.
>>43522176It makes one wonder why artists even complain about AI like it's going to actually replace them. 99% of AI art is still the same boring shit as it was last year and the year before that. Even if you are a technically weak artist, the ability to come up with even a modicum of a creative idea or adding a unique flair to your drawings automatically makes you better than nearly all AI generated stuff.
>>43522210Are you literally retarded? The corpos' investment in AI is literally destroying the planet with data centers and driving tech prices to the fucking moon.All in the name of giving poojeets the ability to conjure some shitty images and pretend they have talent
>>43522231rumble needs loomis
>>43522231cute colts!
>>43522266>corpos' investment in AI is literally destroying the planet with data centersNot really talking about that at all since a lot of people use local models to make AI art. Corporate apathy towards the environment is nothing new. It's certainly a concerning matter considering how easily politicians are bought and how slow legislation is to regulate something scaling at this speed.>All in the name of giving poojeets the ability to conjure some shitty images and pretend they have talentThat's what I'm talking about. They literally don't have any talent, it's obvious from looking at almost any AI art piece. There's no point in being bothered by a gaggle of obvious retards thinking that a handful of same-looking images generated over and over again is in any way valuable art.
>>43522231I hate seeing colts cry. It feels worse than fillies crying for some reason.
>>43522266>destroying the planetKek it believes in the climate hoax as well, how unexpected
>>43522210>the biggest self-own in the AI debate and he doesn't even realize it
How bored do you have to be to participate in the most obvious bait thread of all time?I know the board isn't that great right now, but just go do something else.
>>43522335>believing higher energy consumption = more heat released is a """hoax"""It's elementary level physical science, AIjeetKeep your worthless low IQ takes in your shriveled cranium
>>43522390Yeah but the world isn't ending because of it. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
>>43522399>The world isn't ending goy, stop noticing and let us keep frying cities with slop centersPost nose
Easy part:Learning to use AI doesn't make you creative.Hard but no less true part:Learning to draw doesn't make you creative either.
>>43520578If AI artists are to gain any respect. They must do things that regular artists are not already capable of like animating whole fan episodes
>>43522154>Cara got scraped and many were shocked because they're honest to God retards who don't know how the internet works.The meltdown the website creator had over this was beautiful. She was literally shaking and calling it rape because someone accessed a public website.
>>43522436>If cars are to gain any respect. They must do things that horses are not already capable of like flying
>>43522436>If AI artists are to gain any respectI don't want respect. I want to make cute ponies. I don't care about anyone's opinion on that matter.
>>43522417You're technically right. But consider that most people who are motivated enough to learn to draw do so because they want to be able to get their fun, creative ideas onto paper. It goes without saying that there are both creative and uncreative makers of AI and non-AI art.I believe that having an understanding of what brings a good art piece together lets you see better where you can push the limits and come up with interesting things, no matter what you are making. It is no wonder that the best AI artists are also capable of doing traditional art if they really wanted to.
>>43522436I mean, regular artists CAN animate episodes, but uh...
>>43522459Yeah, this right here is the main reason people are turning to AI.
>>43522459With how much of this kind of shit still gets drawn and put in the limelight, I'm suddenly optimistic about AI drowning these fags out.
>>43522459It all makes sense now
>>43522459oh please, those "people" CAN'T reanimate an episode. That's why they had to split it up into a million tiny fragments so each artist could self-fellate with their own style. It isn't a team of people coming together with discipline to make a cohesive fan-project. The advantage of multi animator projects like that though is that for every dogshit nigger humanisation in there, there was at least one other decent artist who is already way better at animation than whatever AI is currently capable of. Picking out the worst artists as a reason why the average artist is worse than AI is idiotic, and telling of your incapability to appreciate nice things when you see them. Maybe if you weren't so sensitive and fixated on the worst things people can put on paper with a pen, you would be able to see that most artists are still better than AI.
>>43522452Hey, this is a shitpost thread. You're not supposed to make sense in here.But yeah. Judge images by how they are, their composition, and the idea behind them instead of the tools used to make them.You can do more than boring trash and goonslop but you have to put your mind into it and go through a bit of effort to both help the AI out with what it can't do and fix its mistakes.
>>43520578AI "art" always looks like AI, just like you'll always look like a man in women's clothing
>>43520578I hate AI because they are made by rich people who belives they are superior and used by retards who belives they are better than they actually are
>>43522521But rich people ARE superior.
>>43522524They can be equallity killed by the same bullet than a homeless so i don't think so
>>43522529OK, but you're not approaching my island, poorfag.
>>43522530Excellent, my son will be far from your island, pedofag
>>43522539>my sonKill yourself normalfag
I love that the excuses to hate AI get pettier and pettier the longer the discussion goes on.
>>43522484>wall of cope
>>43522504Mmmh I'd go for a swim there
>ai evangelist posts the most obvious troll/bait post possible and gets away with itEvery pro-ai post and thread on this site is like this and somehow the only people getting hit with gr3 are those saying things like "think for yourself".
>>43522562Anyone who is blindly pro or anti-AI is an idiot. If you're incapable of nuance, don't talk about the subject, or hell, any subject for that matter.
>>43522575>centrist cuck
>>43522575TRVTH
>>43522578If you think being capable of nuance means your opinion must sit in the middle you REALLY should not talk about anything that matters.You can be for or against something and still make a nuanced point. Go back to Twitter where you belong.
>>43522590>centrist cuck cope
>>43522595>No argumentGo. Back.
>>43522590AI is the new TDS.
>>43522614A lot of topics are like that nowadays it seems. It's easier and apparently more entertaining for people to outrage than to put on their thinking cap for a moment and have an actually interesting discussion.
>>43522652No wonder this board is going down under.
I think people giving (You)s to obvious shitposts and thinking themselves smart for it are also one of /mlp/'s biggest problems.
>>43522575>m-muhAI has ruined the internet at large and driven the price of every electronic component through the roof, all to give inaccurate garbage text output, trash media output, and overly smug flagrant trolls a tool to spam with. There is no benefit to anyone but the companies and government employees fiscally profiting from the turd rush. And here's the point you stumble in with some "b-but what about da sowved math pwobwems!!! (that haven't actually been proven to be solved)" nonsense.
>>43522658Not really, because shitposts can still lead to an interesting discussion given the right replies. You're just afraid to engage because you're more concerned with saving face on an anonymous image board (which is also why you didn't quote any post, thinking you're clever - you're not).
>>43522661Why did you feel the need to prove my point?
>>43522665>objective facts are just proving my pointk
wtf is going on
>>43522662>Not really, because shitposts can still lead to an interesting discussion given the right replies. No. It just lead to shitposters shitposting even more.Newfags don't know how to not feed.
>>43522662>you're clever - you're nothey hey hey! if you're going to learn to use an em-dash like an AI you should learn to type it! Remember it's alt code 0151 —
>>43522671I'm sure you're the expert on shitposting.
>>43522652>>43522656I mean this thread was obvious concerntroll bait from the beginning. When I saw it posted, I hid it immediately, but look, it just took like 40 samefagged replies to get the shitstorm going. Almost 100 posts, and 11 images. The pedoproxy restricts image uploads by the way.
>>43520578>How do we handle the fact that AI artists grow faster than regular artists in the fandom these days? Why we should? AI is salvation for us.>Should we get a campaign going to promote regular artists?No. Regular artists have nothing to offer for people except complaining about AI and galslighting those who don't have trained hands for making art-slop.>AI artist can have 8k followers in a year while a legit artist making adorable lunas like Nnaly is only at 6kAnd?
>>43520578AI kino
>>43522717SHUT UP. It's AI slop!!! not AI kino!!
>43522717>43522734samefag keeping his shitass thread bumped
>>43522737>luddite is madseethe
>>43522737>>43522746The real samefag because who would be stupid enough to believe that two posts made within 14 minutes of each other are meant to bump a thread??
We already busted p0nyphobic. What about this guy? Slop or not?
Gentlemen, behold my great work!>https://u.pone.rs/xipazrhz.jpeg
>>43522844I will now subscribe to your sloptreon.
>>43521975The fandom basically tried to do that with the "pony community leaders" discord cabal they got caught but still exposed their hand (not hoof) that they behave like this
>>43522830i need to fuck this kirin
>>43522020>solo95% of art is solo mare. I look at my clop folder and it's almost all solo mareThe funny thing is, almost all of them are in 2 poses. Presenting or spread. AI isn't creative because porn isn't creative. The one thing that sets her apart is everything being top notch quality. I look at my clop folder and it's honestly garbage compared to top tier AI artists these days. The pussies are a variety of mangled. The faces and noses are rarely good. I've considered just deleting it outside of like 10 artists I like but I'm keeping it around for personal archive purposes and because I spent way too long autistically archiving and naming thousands of pieces of clop.
>>43522954That might just be your taste in clop. Only about 50% of my folder is solo. Even out of the solo images I've got they're all interesting by virtue of style, pose, setting, etc. All of my images are identifiable to me independently, like I could be thinking of one with no chance of getting it confused for another. That novelty is what's really important for my tastes. AI stuff looks nice at first but gets boring quickly and most significantly ends up being too samey.
>>43522954My problem with AI is just that it inherits the average and produces the average. As far as horse pussy goes, the average is not great, it tends to look like a bolted-on innertube shape, see shino for example. Very few artists do it with the 'exceptional' quality I expect, and AI simply never reaches 'above average' in terms of the minutiae of the pony form. It's only the exceptional and thus the personal that interests me about art in the first place, and AI doesn't produce that.
>>43522979p.s. I looked up shino on ponerpics to confirm I was remembering right and it's literally 30+ images of stallions, futa, and human loli before one single visible horse pussy. wtf man
>>43522979>Very few artists do it with the 'exceptional' quality I expectArtists like?
>>43522984like myself :^) stic5 also comes to mind
>>43522984Welost.
>>43523018>Welost>ExceptionalAHAHAHAHAH
>>43523021argument invalidated until you mention your own artist
>>43523049Literally anybody but Welost.
i say give Patachu your sketchbook and a pencil, he's gonna give you a fully shaded drawing while you're fixing your prompt for the 5th time. And he's gonna take time to drink and have a cig and discuss about islam.
>>43522989>>43522979I love stoic too, but like most regular artists he's always had issues with facial anatomy, and honestly the pone vag has never been that great. I tried to find some of his better ones in my folder. https://files.catbox.moe/ln3wo2.jpgMeanwhile an AI editor is going to drop top quality. I'd argue it's like steroids in that case. Natural look great when they peak, and everyone applauds their effort, but they aren't winning any competitions that way. Inject a little LLM and stuff hits a new level of base quality. From there the AI editor uses those art skills to take it to the next level every time. To me, face and pussy are the first things my eyes go to. If either are off it ruins the piece. I sucked it up for a decade with brony art. Now a handful of AI artists (Cloudmid, Celjewnia, Goblintide, Ramprover to name a few) constantly drop god tier clop. Goblintide and CM out of those have a great variety too. Both have fun captions, loads of pairs and threesomes, a variety of toys and settings. I honestly don't think there's a pose or concept that hasn't been done between the two of them.
>>43523176AI art is automated editing of existing art.AI art is literal redistribution of skillsAI is socialism, takes your art, makes skilless retards feel skilled.
>>43523226Fuck if I care. As long as the final product is good and there's no debating that.
>>43523226>AI art is automated editing of existing art.Incorrect>AI art is literal redistribution of skillsAlso incorrect>AI is socialism, takes your art, makes skilless retards feel skilled.Incorrect in the socialist part, correct in that it can make skilless retards feel skilled. Nothing is spared Dunning-Kruger. That includes you.
>>43523226>correct, it's noit true ai just automated recolor. AI can do much more than this but they think AI creates images from words.Retards.>correct, it enables negros to think they're artist>correct, it's like taxation to artists or legalizing theft>>43523303Retard.
>>43523176I mean those are okay, but they are so bland. To me stoic's faces look a good deal better. The princesses in your example have normal pony faces rather than alicorn ones, the ponuts have that weird ring/lump around the bottom (the one fandom artists hallucinated from not using references), the ponut and vulva looks inflated like an innertube even when being stretched, and they look bolted-on and out of place from too much contrast. Sure this is all nitpicks, but it's the same nitpicks I have for every single AI image I've seen. Varied compositions and pairings etc are not interesting when they're made of bland details with the same flaws and benefits I've seen a million times before.Maybe they *are* god tier in terms of consistency, but that goes both ways, it means they never do anything interesting or revolutionary. Like, the whole idea of 'base quality' is beside the point, no matter how far you push it, it's all in the same lane and the whole appeal of art is to explore and be novel. I would like to see an example of an AI focused artist who actually does go above and beyond - or rather horizontal - to the middling AI standard and does something unique/individually expressive. 'Quality' with no personal vision is just a waste of time.
>>43523226i used to fall for the neural net narrative that became more an excuse,really models are what they are-digital art, where a guy without skill will edit in gimp the colors of their character or alter an image, the closest thing to AI they use is the magic wand's ability to spot patterns and colors in a picture to change it, or adjust pose, repeat a background.I was totally hyped for AI but it's a smokescreen for preserving a fake bubble market. AI have a future, just not in art.This is 2 0 2 6, loras are still poor, code has zero optimization, ram is overpriced, AI is a meme machine.>AI is socialismIf you consider corporations like governments yes. It's communism, all text all images all music it's seize the means of production, been raised a Marxist, I changed.But don't call this AI, it's not artificial when you need gigabytes of images to gen 1. it's not intelligent because AI devs are complete retards, and the AI whistleblowers screaming because he prompted claude how to end the world with AI has resigned.You're using a text generator coupled with a poor image generator.>>43523176Nobodies and seethers with 0 skills.The717 is a tard repeating to himself he's the best he must win and samefagged his own threads. There's another retard who pretend existing art is his ai creations.AI is a paradise for nobodies and scammers.
>>43523420>The717>EG ShitYeah no one gives a fraction of a fuck about a humanized artist.
>>43523420ESL retard
>>43523446Better brown than a cabrón. You get the post, stop pretending you don't.
>>43523464All I got is that you're retarded.>MexicanAh, there we go. Funny you call AI faggots black as an insult when your people behave like the most subhuman tribal niggers imaginable.
>>43523478>your people behave like the most subhuman tribal niggers imaginable.Wish I could say otherwhise, but this is absolutely true...
>>43523478touché but he's not wrong about ai.sorry, but retard.
>>43520589Don't wanna spend money. GTFO
>>43523775>poorfagOH NO NO NO HAHAHAHA
>>43520578aigods won
>>43523420AI can write better English and more coherent arguments than you.
>>43524173Wrong
>wecollectivists fuck off
Posting vore since y'all anons don't know how to act
>>43524288AI is collectivist, and collectivism works> “its taxation” “communism!”Yes it is, copyright on images and media are wrong. media belongs to all.Youi create content, it does not hurts to force you to share skills and your infinite source of art to help those who cannot art to art.Legalize tracing, legalize recolors. legalize removing watermarks.AI art is social. Artists should embrace and welcome AI. make AI training mandatory.AI art helps people with imagination to show it, be glad you enable this or be a shitty fascist.
>>43523420The sickening is you stomp on people who cant afford pencil and paper and work in factories since the age of 12.the717 and Celunia are poors from poon developing cointries trying to make a living for their families.Artists ate horrible.
>>43525134obvious bait is obvious
>>43525134>the717 and Celunia are poors from poon developing cointries trying to make a living for their familiesSurely generating porn and feeding the slop economy will fix their countries.
>>43525149It does.This is why the WEF wants it widely accepted.It's noit even AI.
>>43522974Okay pony porn connaisseur lmao
>>43523111>luddite is a /pol/turdAs he couldn't get any more cancerous.
>>43525260>muh luddite
>>43523240Unfathomably based
>>43525127>Yes it is, copyright on images and media are wrong. media belongs to all.Based, this 100%. Copyright is Jewish cancer destroying creativity.
>>43525262>didn't refute the /pol/ part
>>43525270>Copyright is Jewish cancer destroying creativity.How does not being allowed to steal someone's work limit your creativity?
>>43525274NTA, retard. Get a different word already.
>>43525283I’ll try to explain my logic in a way even a MAGA brain can understand.Private property isn’t good. Copyright laws are obsolete and should have been abolished as soon people could make mixtapes or sample existing music. Artist: Make lots of art. Some artists share and draw free requests. Most sell commissions.When you sell a commission, you keep all the profit and no one else benefits.Most fandom artists even the ones who call themselves leftists have always been capitalists the moment they put restrictive copyright or licenses on their media or code.Redistributing, training, sharing, and remixing lets people who don’t have your skill (a skill that often comes with privilege) create something almost like you do.Every democracy has some taxation. This won’t affect you much you’ll just see more art.The impact of AI on artists is small because AI artists are still a minority.People need a sona or a design for their identity. Not everyone can afford commissions.AI is a solution for people who used to rely on sliders in digital editing apps.Putting a signature and watermark on your art makes you selfish.Teaching someone to draw and expecting them to put in the same effort, while assuming they have the same abilities, is even worse it makes people feel inferior and is patronizing.Embrace AI if you love art more than yourself and your profits.Be a pathetic elitist little shit who makes people feel miserable just because the skills you acquired over years give you status. You’re not a good person, you’re being horrible and egoistic.
>>43525314tl;dr?
>>43525149I will continue to give Celunia jew bucks as long as she continues getting my dick hard.
>>43525285I accept your concession.
I'm not opposed to copyright entirely, but I am opposed to copyright in its current form.
>>43525314Share your art. Let's see it.
>>43525421Share yours.
I choose. Donkey Kong
>>43525127>AI is collectivistYou're fucking retarded. But that stands to reason; you're a goddamn collectivist who cannot form opinions without approval.
>>43525283Because copyright has nothing to do with that?You can't own an idea anon, it's a legal fiction.>DMCAing fan projects is a good thing actually!so much less pony exists in the world specifically because of IP laws are you delusional
If you hate AI you support copyright fuckery. There's no two ways about that.
If you need to copy someone else's work you are not creative at all. There's no two ways about that.
>>43526407Every artist copies from other artists, Ms Donut Steel.
>i don't have the money to commission an artist>spends thousands on AI
>>43526509>One graphics card that cost me 400 bucks>Infinite supply of imagesDunno, seems like a sound investment to me.
>>43526509>people would rather spend thousands on a water boiler than interact with your wonderful personality for three emailsFunnily enough real artists aren't effected since they basically just do advertising work for small businesses so this sort of thing hardly impacts them at all
>>43526503Recoloring or photoshopping art isn't copying. it's altering existing art.
>>43526514You are constantly copying other artists by referencing other people's art with your mind. If you didn't your art would look like those drawings people made in the Middle Ages.
>>43526527This isn't how “AI” art works but that's ok.>>43526394Indeed.>>43526513That's correct.Honestly, a real company that needs high-resolution images for print and logos still can’t rely on AI. The only “AI” most professional artists will use is Adobe Illustrator.Artists were supposed to be replaced, but they won’t be. A lot of us hoped AI art would grow into a real revolution, but the hype died years ago. It won mostly through propaganda, and because the early development never had enough real energy behind it, the whole thing faded fast. AI art is still a minority practice. It could have gone differently, but the people who keep pushing it are mostly coomers.That said, I still think the right thing about machine learning (or “stealing,” or legalizing heavy editing) is that it should challenge copyright law and cut down the power that a few top artists hold over every fandom. It forces them to share a little of that control.Do you really think most people pay taxes on art commissions? Exactly. So whether it’s through AI or some other means, a little exploitation of artists makes sense to anyone with a conscience, it forces them to share.A fandom or all art communities should be collectivistic. Artists are capitalists, they generate value with little investment and hold the monopoly on creative output.That should cut social tensions and frustration between fans and artists.
>>43526555>Honestly, a real company that needs high-resolution images for print and logos still can’t rely on AI.Do you live under a rock? Half of all ads are now AI generated. 100% of new small business logos, posters, promotional materials and shit are AI. Nobody gives a shit about any artifacts or how it looks.
>>43521285The faces I can kind of understand because it has so much to draw from and getting a face "right" is just matter of being on model but in a different style, but AI seems to do equine forelegs better than many artists and I don't understand why.
>>43522417>>43522491gen a glimmy one please
>>43526726Weird way to spell Trixie
>>43526726>>43526727Here's a quick version. Doing it proper would take too long for right now so just deal with the errors and them sitting in the snow instead of on the bench.
>>43526778Glimmy cute!!
>>43520578...you know those 8k followers are *also* AI, right?
>>43522459>Twilight is near!?>Hey, you guys, Twilight is near!
43526509As someone who spends most of my free time and energy making style LoRAs and building datasets from as many artists as I can find, I can tell you AI art is not free. Just like editing images was never free. It's still cheaper than an Adobe Creative Cloud or Clip Studio/Procreate subscription, though. Hardware is the biggest cost, but the time sinks hard too.Digging for the right images, hunting down old or alternate styles, cutting out wrong characters, running endless tests locally, sending them to others only to get torn apart in feedback, starting over, crying a little, finding the one garbage image in the dataset that was dragging everything down, filling the gaps with whatever works, scrubbing out signatures and Patreon watermarks like the last desperate cash-grabs they are, then uploading it to Civitai... all so people can get something for maybe 20% of what a commission from the original artist would cost. It's a grind, but it's also social. You share models, people test them, iterate together, and the whole fandom gets more tools. That's liberating. Traditional artists just want to keep the gate locked and the prices high.>>43526394The mere existence of copyright already shows how selfish and possessive a lot of these so-called creative minds are. The fact they defend it so hard proves they care more about protecting their ego than actually feeding the community. And that's not even the worst part.Artists who are actually good have usually been drawing for over a decade, since school or earlier. When they smugly say "just learn to draw," it's pure patronizing gatekeeping and enslaving. Most fans will try, fail, and quit. When they do "help," they just clone themselves: "draw the pony like this, shapes like that, legs bend this way, eyes like that." People clap, the fan drops every other hobby, and suddenly their entire life is trying (and mostly failing) to become a lesser version of that artist.What they never admit is that a lot of them are reclusive nerds who checked out of normal media, games, social life, everything. They barely even enjoy each other's company. And the biggest lie of all? Drawing your own porn is a massive boner-killer. You can't have that with AI art because you don't have spent hours correcting the genitalia size. It shows up naturally.I'm all-in on AI art. It's the first thing that actually feels open and shared instead of locked behind commissions and attitude. But looking at how things are going lately and always waiting for updates that are never fulfilling promises (PDV7, Zoinks etc). the whole scene is starting to fray. Models get restricted, datasets get nuked, platforms panic, and the same old artist crowd is cheering for every new limitation mocking people killing morale. I'm honestly getting scared about where AI is headed but I will fight til the end, I'm close to my 50s and never felt so motivated for the younger generation that should grow without art being a business.
>>43526960Check out Krea2 if you want to try something new.https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/Krea-2/tree/main/diffusion_modelsThere's also Anima but I think it's just flat out worse than Krea right now. And also kind of a sidegrade to Illustrious/Noob anyways.The problem with both of those is that neither is trained on a furry dataset so they can't really do ponies. I guess there's some LoRA's but they're more a bandaid.So there are new models that are good, but they can't poniponi.
>>43526042>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE COOL THINGS WITHOUT THE CONSENSUS OF THE NPC HIVEMINDyes I can, fuck the normies lmao
>>43526778the cucked and pitiful tixie...
>>43522210That's usually the problem with AI art and writing even. Sure, on it's surface it's visually impressive and looks good but there's usually a fundamental lack of creative spark. There's never anything being told in these images unless the meat proxy typing in the prompt is extremely good so any real artists have nothing to prove
>>43522465I was anti AI till i saw that image. I hope all these disgusting progressives get thrown out if the creative process
>>43522210>the ability to come up with even a modicum of a creative idea or adding a unique flair to your drawingsYeah about that lol...
Artists: Technology is dangerous; you're playing with fire and it's expensive normal art is cheaperAlso artist : I can't decide if I'll spend 100 in these new brushes from Adobe cloud or get the new Blender for smoother lighting. Or I should save for another 4k monitor.
>>43526042Bruh we collective as hell. At least a nigga hope Anonymous still got that solidarity in they heart. Artists used to be empathetic, share the process, the resources, let other artists run the copy. I grew up street artist, we teach, we communicate, we look out for each other ain’t no “I” in ART. We create, we steal, we crack, we smash. Fandom forgot all that ‘cause fanartists be some straight elitist pieces of shit. I ain’t learn no art in no school.>>43526974I’ma catch heat for this but real talk furries ain’t scared of AI the way anime fans or ponyfags is. They put in major work on PDv6 and a bunch of other AI projects, and that’s just another one. Niggas in here hate on furries, but me? I ain’t tied to one fandom. Multitask, diversify the portfolio, go try other styles.
Darkdoomer won. Aijeets lost.
>>43527051It's pretty much a certainty that will happen. Good artists don't need to virtue signal, their talent and skills speak for themselves. It's only mediocre artists that need to form cliques and bring poolitics into a place where it isn't needed or even wanted, as can be seen from the reaction their kind of "art" gets. AI will weed out the mediocre artists, and the real actual talented artists will remain, but I think it might also give rise to a new type of artist, the mediocre artist employing AI to propel itself above other mediocre traditional artists, once they swallow down their pride and relent in their already losing "battle" against AI. That might either be good or bad - it's good if the quality bar gets raised, but if they bring back their woke nonsense or other garbage nobody wants it might be a bad development.
>>43527179>but I think it might also give rise to a new type of artist, the mediocre artist employing AI to propel itself above other mediocre traditional artistsThis is the bit im most excited about. I know there are people out there who have good ideas who can sketch out a scene or comic but it'll have no polish and gain no traction. But with AI, their ideas can have the polish that their circumstances would never allow. This technology with yield slop for the most part but there are bound to be amazing things that come of it with someone of the right mind behind the wheel of the creative vision
>>43527224Yeah, but again, only if they leave their progressive brainrot at the door. But the types with those "ideals" and especially the need to proselytize for them all the time are typically the ones who are completely mindbroken about AI so they're probably not very likely to use it anyway.
>>43527224Polish is just eye candy. If the underlying image isn't interesting by itself, having more polish doesn't usually help. In fact, I can find the lack of polish endearing.I think AI removes a lot of personality that the individual would have used, which is why I think most AI images are boring to me.As an artist, you should continue to try to improve. Using AI to enhance your images skips the steps necessary to develop those and doesn't help you grow.
>>43527246>Polish is just eye candy.Kek, typical mediocre artist cope.
>>43527097Those brushes are all about control. Unlike the proooooompting tools.
>>43527256Yeah, real shame you have no control over the generated images apart just proooooompting, hitting the button, and praying to RNGsus.
>>43527146I think I"m gonna have to punch this nazi and his buds at MareFair myself next year >>43527256You don't get the meme, artists using scanners, digital tablet and a gaming computer worth a few thousand while anyone can prompt from a 800 phone or tablet or a laptop.
>>43527291>I think I"m gonna have to punch this nazi and his buds at MareFair myself next year You won't do shit.>artists using scanners, digital tablet and a gaming computeYou don't NEED that to make art. But your pajeet ass already knew that.
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>>43527315>You won't do shitOh boy you have no idea, I've punched fascists at my uni, I'm not afraid to do it again, I can take you or any artist at your con. Say I can't be an artist then I'm gonna make sure you can't draw a straight line. I hate your kind.
Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike AI generated images. Genners are some of the best.I have ulterior motives. Motives involving getting past paywalls.
>>43527838>I've punched fascists at my uniAnd then everyone clapped.
>>43527838>I've punched fascistsI know a Polish Jew who got attacked.
>>43527857Obama was there,
>>43527847Here you go anon.I only have bronze tier since i dont care about the sfw stuff so no idea if she has a different style there, but some hot Celjewia fresh from the patreon presses in her 3 pony styles. https://files.catbox.moe/7qdo0l.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/re0nu6.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/a27y2c.png
