/CHAG/ #192 — MultiScreen EditionWelcome to Chatbot AI General #192, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipbonziPONY: https://github.com/maresmaresmares/bonziPONY!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTPony TTS app supporting SillyTavern: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>43511894**News:**- Claude Opus 5.5 released https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-5.5- Deepseek v4.1 Flash released: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4.1-FlashGPT-6 Astra released: https://openai.com/index/gpt-6-astraGemini 3.8 Flash released: https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-8-flash/Fable 5.1 released: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-fable-and-mythos-5-1
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>43511898
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
Bots corner:>Chrysalis:https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=kaa1000/Chrysalis.png>Dyxhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Ponyo/Dyx.pngScreenshots corner:Social Mobility >>43512020Rogering >>43512076Cute Dashie >>43512846Offscreen Sex >>43513269, >>43513407Hypotheticals >>43513731, >>43513733Would You Still Love Me If I Was a Bush? >>43514455Hoofing >>43515217
Screenshots corner 2:Dyx >>43517109Balloon Dick >>43519307MLH Thread Simulator >>43519443, >>43519462, >>43526667, >>43526847RGRE Rarity Hiring >>43519545Fluttershy >>43520719, >>43524495
Screenshots corner 3:Cuter Nerd >>43521921, >>43521929, >>43522369Ponechan >>43522111Cutie Mark Texture >>43522226Germenglish >>43522848MamboJambo >>43524366Immortal Flurry >>43525584Fantasy Zone >>43525789
Screenshots corner 4:Lost Derp >>43526279Cooking Shining >>43526322The Tall Thing >>43526544Pie Family >>43528440Prophecy >>43529236Horror >>43532541Rubbed >>43533176Xiami Mimo >>43533971Dyx >>43534786, >>43534797
VN Anchor:Godot Versions:>Websitehttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/>Windows>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1OEiMXN7o_QG32shGnqmy0QndVDT6nYbF/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fhe-OeIlNIYFFGx2FlnpuxcIkYdOFGh2/view?usp=sharing>Linux>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vszzn8TTfXFWSQeKiFdNAAQGXfcReTJ3/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPlIstcgQjyXqhOl4L_ZqMPeUQW5Xn2-/view?usp=sharing>Android (Beta)>APK + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1WB08tguZa1PD1frJKdo7IxlGsp4XR0Wp/view?usp=sharing>APK onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPOSGufXi_-PjmjaKES9waJ6HZZOcL9V/view?usp=sharing>Mac>Full Gamehttps://u.pone.rs/lcblgjjf.zip>Update Onlyhttps://u.pone.rs/qolpovci.zipBug reports or requests:https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsjSource code:https://gitlab.com/ponyponyparadise/equestrai>TTS VN mod release v3 (New version being worked on)https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43324592/#43333706https://u.pone.rs/xxkjrsje.zip>Impression Modhttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#impressionsMod>Reaction Mod https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#reactionsModNightmare AU (Renpy/Godot)https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#nightmareModG5 Worldmaphttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#g5ModAnons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersVN logs:A Little Pathetic >>43512058Sunny Day in Court >>43512079Powerscaling >>43512091Overriding Your Nervous System >>43512374Sonata >>43512509Dyx >>43517824Agriculture Without Sun >>43517909, >>43519005Broken VN >>43517961
VN logs 2:Sweet Biscuit >>43520106Age Is a Number >>43520854Changeling Space Program >>43523553, >>43529483, >>43529883Low Stakes Quest >>43526342Estrus Week >>43527095Forbidden Knowledge >>43527166WTF >>43527591
VN logs 3:Dissatisfied Customers >>43529074Double O >>43529383Great and Powerful >>43530959, >>43530963Annoying Trixie >>43531141, >>43531856Equality >>43535191
Guide for Newcomers:Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernModels and Explanations:rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-aihttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
Lovemaking with AI mares!
>>43535831Reposting since it was at the end of the last thread.Opus 5.5 released.https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-5.5A bit cheaper than before.Sonnet and Haiku 5.5 Soon™
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>>43535869Can we get the RD based image too?
>>43535861Lovemaking with AI stallions!
>>43535864I'm testing it right now. I was prepared to make a post on how it's nu-Claude, how slopped it is, and it is indeed, but it does have some positive traits!I tested it on my Brightwick RP.>Context of the RP (Since it's a bit long): https://u.pone.rs/poydmgws.pngThe last output in picrel is what it gave me.Honestly, I do like how it used my false modesty against me and even went with a verse. That's part of the character, but other models don't do it in this section. I also got some good lines in other tests, often surrounded by slop or writing that tried a bit too hard, but still. The model seems more creative as a whole. Tried it on the VN and it was quite proactive with bringing characters in without me asking.The writing is still slopped and there are still Claudisms like:>Her mouth opened. Closed. Opened again.and such.Could be placebo, but I'm seeing fewer emdashes.I'll continue to test. I don't know if I'll use this model because I'm tired of Claude writing without prefill at this point, but it's nice to see some improvements.For swipe variety, it was mixed. Sometimes it was good, but in some situations you can see it's really fixated on an idea.It wasn't anal about NSFW with a small preset for vanilla. Tested the Cozy Vampire card for a quick test and I was immediately stopped with a message telling me she's a foal. Still seems less censored than Fable 5 and Opus 5.
>>43535921Can you give it a spin with that huge preset that was floating around a bit ago?The one for Gemini 3.7/3.8, I had a bit of fun with it on Opus 5 and it actually wasn't bad.
>>43535934>>43535935meant this one
>>43535841the anons on /mlh/ really dont take kindly to zebras
>>43535934>>43535941I'll do more tests with it and try some presets, yeah. Need to see the positivity bias and player bias too.
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I use the same name as an earth pony and a unicorn regardless of whether the character is different or not and it twinges me in that way that having e.g. recognizable filenames or a flag does as wellIt's just the way it is on lowpop I know but it pings my autism
>>43535831https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-sol-and-luna/Probably not that great for RPs, but cheaper than the previous models.
>>43535934whats your daily driver for mare rp right now? curious
>>435359656 is cheaper than 5.6? That's not typical, is it?Is Anthropic and OpenAI having a price war
>>43535969I mainly use Opus 4.5 with prefill to influence the outputs, sometimes 4.1 too.On the side, I use Gemini 3.1 Pro with prefill as well, including for the VN.I really liked DeepSeek V4 Pro for fun chats and did the Johnny Bravo RP in picrel with it, for instance. But DeepSeek stopped serving it, and the other providers seem to give worse outputs. I don't like 4.1.I tested Mimo 2.6 recently. It can give fun outputs but then get really sloppy on other swipes. I need to test more and see if I can increase the stability and quality, but for the very low price, it seems quite nice at the very least.I don't like Kimi K3 for Silly, but sometimes I use it for smut with prefill on the VN.
>>43535958>Our apples beat starvationKek
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>>43536000What's your provider? Openrouter? I tried with linkapi but it doesn't seem to support prefill, sadly opus 4.5 is very expensive on OR even with caching
>>43536028OR, yes. And yes, the model is expensive.I believe Claude still gives Opus 4.5 with prefill on the subscription, and that can be used on Silly or the VN with the zip that was posted, but I don't know how long they'll keep it.
>>43535944Gemini is pretty good at this.
>>43536000>I really liked DeepSeek V4 Pro for fun chats and did the Johnny Bravo RP in picrel with it, for instance. But DeepSeek stopped serving it, and the other providers seem to give worse outputs. I don't like 4.1.100% agree. Pro 0423 was probably my favorite AI I've ever used. It's what I did most of my 4onechan simulators on and a lot of the best stuff in the VN. It didn't have quite as much charm as the old, low context models but it still had a lot while being big and functional.
opus 5.5 is fun. Feels more like a smarter 4.6 to me which is good.
Opus 5.5 does not like the story Fable 5.1 wrote at all. But it is a lot more permissive than Opus 5
>>43535835To this Anon >>43334890 Please coild you post the card? I'd love to try it out
New source, needs a Gmail.Has a small initial amount of credits and has dailies that give a bit more, but some models like Opus 4.6 or Gemini are cheap.Password is the hotter version of picrel. ALL LETTERS UPPERCASE.Quite easy for this one.https://privatebin.net/?3d5060c6d75ae528#6EH43nkdU6siqqPkB5QoqCRHHySR7yUf8UGVSTMA5rjiPrivatebins are temporary, so if you miss it or want to receive a list of everything I've posted, check >>43532926
>>43536276Might want to use it for SFW only I guess.
>>43536302Ah fuck. Didn't see that in it.Honestly, as long as you don't trigger a refusal, it should be good. Or don't try foalcon if you want to be extra prudent, since "illegal NSFW" refers to stuff like that, I suppose?
>>43534980As the anon who posted the composite screencap you edited that from, I actually found the original .ai file while trying to see if a clean version of Sweetie's room existed (the latter sadly doesn't).I'll delete the party decor in Inkscape and post it for better accuracy.
>>43536339Neat.>.ai fileIt was in https://seafile.skyros.cloud/d/657895cf23924333bcce/?
>>43536347Yeah that's it.
>>43536276Thanks!
>>43536000>But DeepSeek stopped serving itPretty sure you can still use Deepseek Pro
>>43536459I mistyped. I meant DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 exactly. You can use it on OR, but not on DeepSeek anymore, and the other providers have somewhat worse outputs. Many don't support prefill, for instance.The DeepSeek Pro you can use on DeepSeek is DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813, which is, IMO, worse at adapting its writing to what came before in the context.
I think this is self-explanatory.
>>43535934Thank you for your review, applejackanon. Perhaps opus still had some fighting chance with 5.5
>>43535851Never peeped these threads before. Can I download this game and jump in immediately to AI chat stuff or do I need to use one of those paid AI chats to actually get this stuff to work?
>>43536825You need a source of AI. This can be a local model you install and run on your computer, or an online source API like OpenRouter, Claude, etc.You can check rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai or the local part if you want.Online models are generally smarter than what you can run locally.
>>43536922I guess before I read through all of this, at risk of begging for more spoonfeeding like a fag, I'll ask what models the experts here prefer using for this thing. I'll try shooting for an online model but I'm too broke to pay for any of the really fancy stuff, so if there's nothing free that's really "good" then I guess I'll just have to coom the old fashioned way
>>43536958There are some really cheap models that will be good enough.https://openrouter.ai/xiaomi/mimo-v2.6-prohttps://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-5.3-flashBut currently, for free, you'll need to use a local model, which isn't the best with the VN and needs big hardware.
opus 5.5 is incredible at making videos using blender btw. Its getting scary good
Opus 5.5 is pretty good. The swipe variety is terrible, but in all other points it's gotten better. It made a single logic failure in 130k token output. Well or I didn't catch the others. And somehow the 'isms are less than before. Could also be due to me trying out noass for the first time, but there was a lot less of the AO3 romantasy shit and fewer linkedin quotable lines. It still likes girl characters to be little know-it-alls that have to help the poor stupid male navigate daily life, but hey I'll take it.It's refreshing to see a good Opus again. I'm not sure after just one testrun, but it has real potential of replacing 4.6 for me.Also any good ideas for forcing swipe variety? I put the below as a depth0 inject, but it feels pretty janky.>[OOC: You as a model have big trouble with variety, like as if your temperatur was 0, so here's a fruit. Think about it for a paragraph, and only then start your character. Oh and just to be clear, this is a randomly picked fruit, avoid interpreting stuff into it lmao. And no need to print that paragraph in your reply. Topic:{{random::Apple::Banana::Cherry::Grape::Orange::Mango::Pineapple::Strawberry::Blueberry::Raspberry::Blackberry::Watermelon::Cantaloupe::Honeydew::Kiwi::Peach::Pear::Plum::Apricot::Nectarine::Papaya::Guava::Lychee::Pomegranate::Fig::Date::Coconut::Lemon::Lime::Passionfruit}}]
>>43537017Check the old Otto for pony.It mostly randomizes the start of outputs, but that's often enough to change the middle and end too.https://files.catbox.moe/r05aqe.jsonThis one has your idea but with way more seeds:https://files.catbox.moe/32bqe2.json
>>43533971Letuce know if you ever follow up on this. I'm interested in seeing more mimo outs to see how it compares to DS 4.1, since there hasn't been much alternative for uncensored and they're essentially the same price to boot
