This is the alternative MLP fan site general thread. Discussion, development suggestions, and criticisms are all welcome here.Negligible Downtime Edition>why alternate boorus?The absolute state of Derpibooru has led to the development of various alternatives. Many altbooru staff members are present ITT, reading comments and answering questions.>why alternate text sites?Pastebin persistently purges pony pastes. Fimfiction does not allow stories in greentext format. FiMFetch censors foalcon and other material deemed "unacceptable" by its owner, a libelous hypocrite: ponepaste.org/9926>general purpose boorusponerpics.org by Pupper and Lotus [!!VL3e2tgvNo5]twibooru.org by Twifag and Filly (formerly Floorb) [!!mdpTjuXo6BG]>specialized boorusbooru.foalcon.com by Pathos (lolisho)lyrabooru.org (hot glue)>(green)text and other fanfictionponepaste.org by Aftercase [!!KXV0q+Lg38e], managed by Filly>dedicated archivesa0346f102085fe9f.github.io/IAS2foalfetch.net by Fillyiwiftp.yerf.org by Romemlpcon.infopony.games>video sharingpony.tube by Twifag and Filly>file sharingpone.rsmare.by>microbloggingpone.social by Twifag and Filly>link shorteningderpy.meOn past /fast/s:>Ponerpics duplicate queue has several hundred reports awaiting an update to Derpi metadata handling>Twibooru imports large batch of images from Manebooru>PonePaste UI improvements go live>Pony.Tube future expansion under consideration>Ponerpics disables anonymous tag editing to curb spam; results promising>derpy.me back online after purging spam links>IWIFTP relaunches Tor hidden service: 647jnod5oc7bzj3tpjq2qaaq6j73sa4h43whqeubkvkbvm52yecm72id.onion>IWIFTP launches i2p service: ow7qtlpe3u36qob4dgoo3opifaj335hbk6gxv43tfjjzhvky5zwa.b32.i2p>PonePaste domain expires; gets transferred to Filly>Pony.Tube and Pone.Social receive updates courtesy of Filly>Ponerpics prev/next image shortcuts fixed>New Twibooru scraper code published: github.com/Twibooru/nuboorumon>pone.rs ShareX functionality fixed>Twibooru SVG importer restored to working order>Ponut.Space taken offline following CP spam>PonePaste fixes out-of-memory bug affecting database dumps>Panicked purge marks The End of Ponybooru: >>43200111 >>43227018>mulpwiki.batpony.party sunsetting scheduled for Q1 2027>Twibooru server migration successful; hosting costs lowered, performance increased, and storage enlarged by 80%>Quad9 DNS block of FoalFetch successfully appealed>Twibooru swaps frontend server for improved load management>Twibooru importer/image processor experiences difficulties: long-term fix for missed images pending>Ponerpics enables Cloudflare Under Attack Mode following mass influx of scrapers>PonePaste database dumps exhibit corruption; third-party scraper set up to compensate+Twibooru fixes nginx failure with new sysadmin's help+IWIFTP restores hidden service+Pony.Tube clears registration queue of approx. 200 spam requestsPrevious thread: >>43450598
>>43544504Why is the past fast section oldest to newest instead of newest to oldest
>>43544928That's the way it's been since this general's inception as the Derpibooru Alternative Thread over 6 years ago. I feel it fits: the news section serves as a record of how things developed over time. Reading from oldest to newest lets you follow events in linear order, with context for later updates appearing before them.For added visual clarity, I've been greentexting older news items and marking fresh ones with plus signs starting with thread #110.
this creature is amusing, also retarded.
>>43545149It's always fun seeing how quick they go from>frick you nahtzee chuds I'm going to derpito>frick you derpi for not doing anything about those nahtzee chuds
Why doesn't pastedown support spoilers?
>>43545920What would be the use case?
>>43546248Spoilers
>>43546281I don't see the need for it. Most of the time it would make reading the green annoying.I rarely see spoilers used in greens (there isn't much green anyway).
>>43546326But it would be nice to have the same functionalities as 4chinz
Speaking of PonePaste. Now there are 5 pull requests.
>>43546248Rendering parity with this site. If someone wants to spoiler a punchline, or an author's note, let him do so.>>43546326One could take a page out of TV Tropes' playbook and implement a "reveal all spoilers" button if hovering over a few black bars is that big of a hassle.
>>43546737But would anyone use it? There are barely any writefags left.
>Russian gov't now bombs Ukrainian data centersdo we have anything poniponi hosted in UA besides firlin's websites? I'm petty sure they are hosted via github pages anyway...
>>43547644FIsn't firlin one of the only artists who still posts to the altboorus?
>>43548074>Isn't firlin one of the only artists who still posts to the altboorus?yep, although I wouldn't call his vectorslop "art" as he personally doesn't like to call himself like. Hope he's doing alright
Filly Filly Filly Filly oh Filly Filly Filly Filly come and dilly and dally round and round. You were once another but now you are Filly Filly Filly Filly.
>>43547204I'd use it
Ok, I think I'm calling it for my weekday uploads to poner. Internal server error. AGAIN. I'm at my limit for this shit. 2000+ uploads is good enough. I'm kind of on a schedule, you know? Nice fucking website THAT THE OWNER DOESNT FUCKING CHECK OR MAINTAIN. FUCK YOU LOTUS
>>43548722MIA for like a month already
Well, if you ever need any help you know where to find me.
Okay. After internal server errors last night, Pupper has admitted that we need a much stronger server. The increase in bot traffic is so great that the current server clearly cannot handle it.I don’t know when the move will happen, but I expect soon.>>43549310And I love you too random citizen
>>43550566Why not just use Cuckflare at max anti-bot setting, at least for the time being?
>>43550566>we need a much stronger server. The increase in bot trafficYou know that the bots will just hit it even harder right?I tried the same, started increasing the allowed bandwidth, number of CPU cores. Once the bots figured out they can scrape harder, they did.What you need is some way to disrupt bot traffic.
>>43550690how DO you run a site without getting assraped by scrapers in current year?
>>43550317I think he's still trying to fillymaxx or something like that. I remember that fillymaxxing thread that popped up earlier this month but I didn't put two and two together until now. I have no idea if it's ironic or not.I think it's not.
>>43551690Life would be so much nicer if we could all just filly.>VNR
>>43545149>look inside>dogshit art
>>43550317I've been talking with him in a private Discord and he's just kind of done with /mlp/ and the fandom in general. Too much bitching with little to nothing he gets in return. He said he kind of "understands what those flag waving retards are on about now" (his words not mine)
>>43552769FUD or Faggot, call it
And so FUD it was.
>>43550690>implying Lotus and pupper know what the fuck they're doingThis is the same guy who ran the alternative panel. Literally implementing fixes and then leaving IT THE NEXT WEEK. Like with the April fool's shit. You come back for one day, change some text and colors and leave it until NEXT FUCKING YEAR. YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHEN YOUR SITE GOES DOWN. What the actual fuck are you doing? Swallow your ego and ask Filly how he made his site not have INTERNAL SERVER ERRORS.And you're a fucking faggot, ignoring the guy who is single handedly keeping your site alive because even he wonders where the fuck you are?? Don't you realize the site is in such a shitty state that he asks if you're fucking alive? YOU DONT EVEN MATCH DERPI'S IMAGE NUMBERS, WHICH IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF PONER. Nobody does the community shit anymore. Ponerpics is nothing but a subpar copy of derpi now. You're fucking useless.
>>43552563i-is that a fluffy pony?
Who is ponepastes new sysadmin?
>>43552769So goodbye twibooru, ponepaste, foalfetch, ponytube, ponesocial ?
>>43552769ask if he's willing to hand it over to a different admin?
>>43554029Kind of crazy how much of the alternative site community relies on a single guy huh?
What do you guys think the biggest barrier to entries there are for people hosting pony sites (boorus, etc.)?>Cost>The technical aspect>Finding trustworthy staff/volunteers>Time>Deciding where to host>Other?
>>43554675as the marecult admin put it, the "roving barbarians of the internet", i.e. defending against bots and actual threat actors.
>>43554675>costHighly depends on the size. Some sites cost barely more than what you pay for the domain. Some costs thousands a month.>The technical aspectAgain, depends on the site. Simpler ones can be hosted by using premade services.>Finding trustworthy staff/volunteersThis is not easy. But do you even need staff?>TimeIf you are a neet you have all the time. Simpler sites don't take more than a few hours of your life a month. Complex ones need all.>Deciding where to hostFor some site it's not an issue at all. For others it is a huge issue. Again, depends on what you want to host.>OtherKeeping it alive. Without content, people won't visit (you)r site. Just look at how many mlp focused blogs exists and how dead 99% of them are.
>>43554681>actual threat actorsHow many are a real threat and not just a schizo with unsupervised internet access (see: the cbat spammer)?
>>43554675Boorus are a major time investment (wiping CP spam and other garbage that comes with allowing user submitted content) and, if you want one that can say "fuck you" to DMCA notices like Twibooru, a huge cost.
>>43554866>DMCAAll you have to do is not host it in hamburgerland.DMCA is not enforceable anywhere else. EU has something similar but it varies country by country.For example some require either a handwritten physical letter sent through a notary via registered mail, with full address and full personal identification and also proof that the given intellectual property is yours.I bet 99.999% won't go through the trouble.And even if you ignore it the person has to sue in the host country, not from the comfort of their chair.
>>43554029Half of those are actually owned by twifag so floorb being useless won't have any impact on them being available.
>>43554909If no one maintains them, that will have an impact.
>>43554910not as big of an impact as my balls will make on your chin.
>>43554914Unlike you, I'm not a faggot.
>>43554901The problem is most providers don't like it if one of their clients is a legal hassle so they'll just boot you if they get too many complaints, DMCA or otherwise.
>>43554910kAre you offering to step up?
>>43555149Many people have offered, but Floorb maintains it's too difficult without guidance from him (I'm not disparaging here, it might actually be, this is just what he has said).
>>43555149Maybe respond to my attempts to contribute, that would be a start.
>>43555156In other words he does not want to do it nor does he want anyone else doing it. Because "no one else is good enough" and "I'm not going to help figure my mess out yourself".
>>43555173>he does not want to do itCorrect>nor does he want anyone else doing it.Rather, he doesn't want to spend the time to explain to someone else how to do it.
>>43555197>here is a photo of my house I took during building>the house is in this country>here are the keys>go get a spoon from the kitchen>if you don't do it the exact way I would have done it then fuck offAlmost like Seth and EQD.
>>43550661Under Attack Mode will stop internal server errors and related problems from bots, but it will also block the bots we actually like, like Porter>>43550690If the bots scraped up until the maximum power of the server, they'd never DDoS the website. But they do DDoS websites. So the scrapers aren't scraping up to a limit, they scrape redardless. Having a stronger server will allow more room for handling traffic, bot and otherwise.Managed Challange and blocking scraper bots has an effect, and it allows me to selectively block the bots, but it hasn't been enough to stop the internal server errors.
>>43555320Does porter use the API? If the scrapers are mostly buttfucking the website using regular access you might get away with maximum CF protection on the main pages and just leaving it off for the API.
>>43555320>but it will also block the bots we actually like, like PorterYou know that you can selectively set up the WAF right?Allow all API endpoints without any limitation and at the same time use interactive challenge on normal pages.The bots are not scraping the API endpoints, as those require parameters. All they do is follow link chains.>they'd never DDoS the website. But they do DDoS websitesThey do scrape up to a limit. This limit is set to be higher than what the server is capable of serving. If you throw more resources at the problem, they will notice that the latency went down, there are less 429 responses (if you even do those), etc. Then they increase the scraping rate (limit) up until they start hitting errors/increased latency again.>and blocking scraper bots has an effectGood for you, it did absolutely nothing for me.
>>43555320>LotusWhy have you ignored all my messages for the past year+? ^:(
>>43555360I'm not sure, but I can ask. Under Attack Mode works, it's just Porter that it keeps out>>43555385>You know that you can selectively set up the WAF right?I did [i]not[/i] know that, but I'll ask Pupper and Gold and see if that's a path we can take.I can tell you that the Internal Server errors are overwhelmingly caused by one specific thing - bots using the search function and overloading elastisearch.>>43555394If you want a real answer, it's because in my day job I get phone calls, text messages, and other communications from 5-15 people that I am not meeting with, and most of what they want is either something I have no new information on or I'd have to go do investigating and come back, and if I respond to 2/3 of these communications I feel like I've accomplished something, and just as a whole it makes answering emails and messages from people less exciting...But while that's an answer, it isn't really a good answer. So... Sorry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiL2AjOtjZISend another message
>>43555415>bots using the search function and overloading elastisearchAre they actually using the search function or are they following the links of the tags which will appear as a search?I have not seen scrapers actually formulating unique search queries.
>>43555425The tags. When you load a page for a tag it prompts an Elasticsearch query. At least, that is as best as I can tell
>>43555435If it's just search that's the problem you could probably get away with only using anti-bot measures on the search requests, just like Desuarchive does now. I'd be surprised if Porter needs that functionality to upload images (and it would make most sense to me if it's just using the API, which you can leave completely unprotected anyway).
Is there even any info on place.pony shutting down? For a namefag willing to be “reached out to”, he just randomly vanished and didn’t announce anything at all when the site times out forever now.
>>43555686>I'd be surprised if Porter needs that functionality to upload imagesPorter uses the search API functionality to check if the image already exists on PonerPics, both via file hashes and image intensities.
>>43555415>Send another messageSent ^:)
>>43555708Thanks for the clarification. But that's API search and not regular search, so it should work as long as the API remains open, right?
>>43555741It should still work.
>>43555714WOO!
>>43555435>The tags.So they are just following links.You can also try setting a csrf token and redirect to the main page or another lander asking to refresh the page which sets the csrf token if there is no csrf token in the request.
>>43556225Better to run a userscript so you can keep the browser's authentication.
is csrf mandatory for any website
Is there a way to transfer my upvotes from poner to twi?
>>43558346Give this a try: https://github.com/marktaiwan/Philomena-Booru-Sync/
>>43559725It's incredible how Marker still hasn't gotten banned from furpi despite all his contributions to altboorus.
>>43554029I thought Corp was in charge of some of these?
>>43560668I don't think he really does anything except pay the bill.
Fixed some random bullshit on https://vcl.yerf.org/
>>43559725Thanks. The ponerpics cloudflare thing gave me 403 errors but I fixed it. 321/379 imported and the missed images are missing from Twibooru. It would be great if Twi to fills these holes
>>43561243Twibooru and Ponerpics don't have image parity?
>>43561296No they don't. This should be well known
>>43561229getting better and betterhover over tag list in grid view would be nice (just a simple tooltip)
>trying to contribute to ponepaste>no responseHow does one reach Filly?
>>43561615I thought the problem would fix itself whenever it appeared since they import from each other.
>>43562006They do and it doesn't fix itself because something something poner banning twiporter and something something not rechecking hashes or something
>>43562223Sounds like porter really needs a rewrite. The Ponerpics ban was ages ago.
>>43562276It's not really a rewrite. It just needs to go back through thousands of images hashes and recheck those against its own database before importing missing hashes. That and it not going down randomly
>>43561696Did you try admin@ponepaste.org?
>>43562310It really should cache what hashes it found on Twibooru and Ponerpics so it doesn't have to go over them every time it is restarted.
>>43561646Alright
>>43563002yay thanks
>>43562335I'm pretty sure he gets an email every time I open a pull request.https://github.com/Neetpone/ponepaste/pulls
>>43563141Doesn't hurt to try
boop
should we be concerned? also on the topic of derpibooru is there any chance of it blocking scrapers/alt sites?
>>43565011Derpi is blanketly hostile to alt burus and their staff. It should be treated as nothing less than an adversary.
>>43555699Maybe he got arrested or something
>>43565011>should we be concerned?About what? Furpi deleting people's artwork? They do that routinely, it's why the alt boorus exist in the first place.>>43565180>It should be treated as nothing less than an adversary.Based
How can I stop getting called a nazi for using Twibooru?
>>43565798Best course of action is to laugh about it and move on, optionally taking screencaps of the retardation.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HIyXgPfW80
>>43563002Another small thing: plrase make the remote IDs clickable. Where it displays the source, I can't navigate to it by one click, I have to copy the ID manually then construct the url, etc.
>>43566544ExplainI do not know where you mean
>>43566570The ID there clickable, or make it into the full url where it was imported from + clickable.Or am I missing how should I navigate to the source where it was imported from?(not an) edit:Ok so on the left side after expanding the source metadata then the site where it was imported from then clicking on the "remote url" works. Takes 3 steps. I still think making the ID there in the screenshot clickable would be great.
>>43565798Consider if using twibooru is the reason you're being called a nazi.
>>43567226Go on Manechat and post a Twibooru link. I'll wait.
>>43552769This is entirely made up. I barely even use Discord anymore. I've mainly been focusing more on my real life job recently, because I've been struggling. Also been focusing on trying to deal with my mental health issues. Sorry for the silence.>>43554426Twibooru and PonePaste currently have sysadmin help from a long-time trusted fandom friend of mine; it's one reason they've been more stable lately, because they put in the effort to fix a few long-standing issues with the way the servers were configured.>>43561696Thanks a ton for the contributions anon, I really appreciate them. I've merged most of them, I want to test the last one a bit more because I don't fully understand the code at a glance.>>43562223>poner banning twiporterHasn't been an issue for over a year I think.>>43563141I do.
>>43566570>>43567006That was an oversight, its fixed in the intended way now
>>43567507>I've merged most of themyay
>>43568105Louder!
>>43568536YAY!
>>43567287>using manechatSo the reason is you're retarded. Got it.
>>43565187that’d be surprising considering the site only had horsepussy images up for like 16hrs at the most while he was asleep.
>>43569597>use an /mlp/ con to shill your hugbox ponychan ripoff>get SWATted by horsepussy
>>43567507>mental health issuesIf Saint Terry has taught us anything, it's that brilliant programmers are rarely sane.Hope you do better. Try to stay away from train tracks.
derpi just added a proof of work captcha to the site
>>43570766
>>43570771They're using Anubis?
>>43570771>didn't even change thr default image to ponyfucking hacks
>>43570849They're the kind of people too poor to do a donation yet too spineless to just change it anyway since it cannot be legally enforced.
>>43570852>too spineless to just change it anyway since it cannot be legally enforced.wut?
>>43570962You need to donate to Anubis to be 'allowed' to change the logo. But since it's free software (forgot which license, but GPL I think) they cannot actually legally enforce that request.
>>43570963>GPLNot even that: it's 100% Cuck.
>>43570963>>43570973 this is utterly fucking retardedOnlyOffice tried to Jew people by having>AGPLv3-only with Section 7 requirement of...>"you MUST use our trademark for modified versions!">"Trademark costs rubles :^)"they couldn't enforce this nonsense in court, how the fuck is cuck-licensed piece of shitware is gonna enforce a similar requirement kek?
Instead of circlejerking and huffing your own farts over anubis not being ponified enough, how about figuring out how this is going to affect the scrapers the altboorus rely on?
>>43571299Apparently they are too fucking stupid and the API is behind this shit too. Thus scrapers are fucked.Normal developers don't put the API behind any kind of captcha. How do they expect the API clients to solve the captcha?...Ponerpics and Twibooru stopped importing from derpi.
>>43571374Hm, nevermind. The API does not seem to be behind anubis. Maybe they do have two braincells.Then it's just the usual porter/importer getting stuck or something.
>>43571374See >>43565180
>>43571394I'm not denying that.But I checked the API and it goes through without anubis getting in the way.
>>43571374>>43571392There is still the regular "I am not a robot" captcha that occasionally shows up on the Derpi API. Their API docs refer to this as a middleware challenge and the recommended course of action is to wait a little while before trying again.
>>43571473Regardless, all derpi importers are broken.My guess is they fetch the main page or something and instead of getting the expected main page back (to only import approved posts), now get the anubis stuff.
>>43572797For Twibooru's importer, the API endpoints are returning HTML instead of the expected JSON. Probably, indeed, an Anubis page. I will look into it later.
>>43573113>API endpoints are returning HTML instead of the expected JSONStrange. I just tried it and for me it did work. I just curled a random endpoint (https://derpibooru.org/api/v1/json/images/3910207) without any cookies and it worked fine. Even fetching the images via the cdn worked fine.I verified it that curling a normal page (simply https://derpibooru.org) does return the anubis stuff.Without https I get cloudflare's redirect response.
>>43573214At least Anubis doesn't require a browser to solve.
Isn't Anubis only a problem if you scrape with new IPs (residential proxies or stuff like that) for every request? If you solve it and store the cookie you can just go on, can't you?
>aislop kills all the altboorus by extension because it kills their one source of images
>>43575166"AIslop" is just the most convenient excuse currently available for fucking over everyone.
>>43572797ETA for this fix?
>>43554029You've been lied to
niggerpics is down again
>>43577849After all the discussion we had they didn't make any changes did they?
>>43576691Don't ask me ask >>43573113
The last torrentless download method on yayponies seems to be down (cloudflare tunnel error). Do we have some alternate archive of raw G4 episodes?
>>43544504First of all fuck you twibooru. I had typed up a whole ass thing for the forums, only for it to not work when you hit submit and to delete your whole post. My Dear slim letter for twibooruHey code monkies. The site has a few advantages over derpi, mainly the humanized and eqg loli content being allowed. And the way the api works, being much more generous. However I have noticed that there is a long delay between uploads on derpi and this site. I had switched to exclusively using twibooru as a hub due to its lack of rules on uploads. Not because i enjoy all the art, far from it. But I like to personally collect all art of value from the fandom for my own archive by hand. That said, these delays have gotten so bad I will switch back to derpi with twi as a secondary. I hope that doesn't come off as me saying "I'm leaving 5ever please care!!!" Because I'm not. This site is very important to the fandom. I just want to share some potential places that could be improved that would make the site number one for me. It is possible I am misinformed or incorrect. These are my observations using twi everyday, multiple times a day, for the past few months. >inb4 reddit spacing1. About -10x the load speeds of derpi. The loading of pages, full images and videos are extremely long when compared to derpi. 2. Slow sync rate with derpi. Art posted on derpi will sometimes take hours to propagate. This may be due to their api limitations, and I would never suggest ways around that, that could potentially sour relations... but I mean if you did-3. When sync is done, it is done in place. This has annoyed me to no end. I will not accept that "it's not true" for this one. I have gone back so many times feeling I was crazy, racking my brain against this. But when the sync is done the images synced arent placed as the newest. But they go into the database at the time they *would* have been there, had the sync been 1 to 1. This means people like me who browse the newest page every 2 hours or so , will miss tons of art. And need to go back.4. The culture. Yeah I know this is going to be the most polarizing becuase of the word choice. But say whatever you want about derpi. You're probably right. But the culture here compared to derpi is abysmal, in terms of promoting tagging and ratings. The tags are terrible, almost non existent. Because they poll derpi only once, they never get the updated tags from autistic taggers. Ratings are so few that people who simply don't like a fetish, and refuse to use filters or even the hide button, will neg rep good art. At current this makes it even harder to back track for missed art. As I often rely on the top scoring, and set the date for week. This is the hardest to change. You need to break from derpi, from just being a clone. And offer better tagging and accessibility to rate. Derpi has the numbers, and polish you don't. You need to change and be different to cater to your audience to promote the actions you value.
>>43579939The board demanded twibooru be a wasteland with no social interaction or any real features with a rogue mod deleting whatever he feels like and a public response of "fuck you you're a threadschizo and also the same person if you ever dislike anything we do" so nothing will ever get better. It took a lot of very loud complaining to get them to feature Twi art in the featured box instead of non-pony political shit.
>>43579638IWIFTP?
>>43580062>a rogue mod deleting whatever he feels likeThis was what made me stop actively using them as well. After getting banned for a literal opinion that undoubtedly annoyed this specific retard, on a site that Floorb himself said was supposed to be "a haven of free speech", I stopped posting or updating tags. Good job alienating anyone that wants to contribute because you need to cater to this dumb cunt for some reason, Twibooru.
>>43580740Thanks, it should've been obvious. At first glance looks to be complete, even has some non-English dubs.
>>43579939>only for it to not workKek.Anon forums were only enabled as a joke for like a day. Have you not notice that there are no replies newer than 4 years in any thread?>long delay between uploads on derpi and this siteIntentional. You just complained that tags are shit. When stuff gets uploaded to derpi the tags are usually shit and it takes a few hours for the fagtrons to tag the new images. Thus the delay.And now the importer is broken too, so no new images since 2 days. Plus it is frequently broken, thus there are tens of thousands of missing images.>its slowThank AI scrapers and the admins not enabling site wide captcha for some reason. I have no idea why it only asks for captcha for the previous/next image but not searches (tag links) or previous/next pages.>resync tagsWas explained a few times in the past. derpitards rename tags constantly. Re-importing the tags would fuck up a lot of previous tags. Like if a drawfag wants to nuke themselves then derpi first changes the artist tag to php:12345 so the search engines remove the original tag from their cache then derpitards delete the image after a while.So for a re-sync thousands of tag changes (not on images!) would need to be manually reviewed and the right action selected.>out of orderUmm what? The importer behaves like any user and posts images normally. New images end up as well new images. I don't know what you are talking about.>4You answered yourself there.Also there are what 5 or 6 boorus? One gets the majority of traffic, the rest exists to serve a niche need.And I'm saying this with having 20k+ upvotes on twibooru.
>>43581709>I have no idea why it only asks for captcha for the previous/next image but not searches (tag links) or previous/next pages.I've seen them on basically all pages. The captcha seems completely random.
>>43581958>The captcha seems completely random.I only see it when clicking the prev/next buttons on the images. If I open a new private browser session I can open twibooru and it does not ask for a captcha to be solved. I can browse, look at images, search, etc. I have never seen a captcha, except for the prev/next button.
So any update on importers being broken?
>>43581709>When stuff gets uploaded to derpi the tags are usually shit and it takes a few hours for the fagtrons to tag the new images. Thus the delay.NTA, that's actually smart.
>>43584179Pipe bombs are being mailed out as we speak.
Fixed some more things.JXL is now displayed when a supported browser request the page.Reenabled the downloader viewer at https://img-downloader.yerf.org/ with watchaponi and poniponi.Import status from the old archive:Okay here's the newest numbers for the old to new archiveInkbunny: 514k done, about 1.6M still to verify or importe6ai: 2k done, about 1k lefte621: none done, 3.0M matched and waiting their turnDerpibooru: none done, 1.9M matched plus 1.3M awaiting verificationPonerpics: none done, 4.0M matchedTwibooru: none done, 4.1M matchedWeasyl: none done, 1.0M awaiting verificationFurbooru: none done, 236k matchedTantabus: none done, 74k matched
>>43585733Based.
>>43585733Seems like you have no problem with scraping images. Unlike certain boorus.
https://twibooru.org/3839521Why does this have a +13 rating? I thought Twibooru was the "based booru" that didn't support this kind of degeneracy?
>>43586204What the fuck are you talking about?
>>43586204It's almost like booru fags have no standards.
>>43581709Didn't want to reply here until I had fixed the importer, but...>>its slow>Thank AI scrapers and the admins not enabling site wide captcha for some reason. I have no idea why it only asks for captcha for the previous/next image but not searches (tag links) or previous/next pages.No, it's slow because it's hosted in a shithole with no copyright laws, and bounced through another, different shithole with no copyright laws. The only endpoints that were causing noticeable CPU load were, indeed, the prev/next pages, which is why that's the only places they are.>>resync tags>Was explained a few times in the past. derpitards rename tags constantly. Re-importing the tags would fuck up a lot of previous tags. Like if a drawfag wants to nuke themselves then derpi first changes the artist tag to php:12345 so the search engines remove the original tag from their cache then derpitards delete the image after a while.>So for a re-sync thousands of tag changes (not on images!) would need to be manually reviewed and the right action selected.Someone's done the manual review. At least 4 times. The problem is actually people just say "derpi bad" and it turns into an argument about that and we can never get anywhere with actually importing the data.Anyways, importer fix soon, the code is done I just need to bother to deploy it and shit.
>>43588058Derpi IS bad, and playing defense for it after all the shit they've done makes you look like a massive faggot.
>>43588254And this is why resyncing tags is never going to happen!
>>43588263Good! Keeps altboorus safe from tagpoisoning.
>>43588058>it's slow becauseSo you are saying that scrapers eating bandwidth does not make it slow? It's not only about the CPU usage.It does not matter how low the CPU usage is if legitimate users has to share the remaining few mbit/s the bots fail to saturate.If you already have cf captcha, I don't understand why not just enable it site wide (excluding API endpoints). Let's see if that stops the complaints that the site is slow. It is not an inconvenience for normal users to "solve" it (wait 2-3 sec for it to solve itself) every few hours/days.>importer fixWhat was the issue?Also will the missing images from the past few days get imported?
>>43588885>just get cuckflared 24/7 broEat shit and die.
>>43589274Stop posting on 4chan then. At least put your money where your mouth is.
>>43588885I'm saying I understand the sources of my site's performance problems more so than an outside observer. I will not be enabling Cloudflare challenges sitewide. As for the other thing, as I expected, the API is serving me Anubis challenges. I needed to code an Anubis solver.
My internet seems to be blocking pone.rs for months now. All image links break and the page won't open. I've tried what I could on my end but think it might be my provider? Which is spectrum. Any advice on how to get it working again? Or maybe even an update to work with my service provider?
>>43589682>the API is serving me Anubis challengesSo I guess whether you get an Anubis challenge on the API depends on the connection being used, otherwise I don't see why some people get it and some don't.
>>43589726See if you can look up the domain name. Try "nslookup pone.rs" in a command prompt and see what it returns. The IP for me is 185.147.159.159. If you get the same one, see if you can ping it. If you get a different IP, or no response at all, you might have some DNS block on it, in which case I'd try using a different DNS server. If you get the same IP but can't ping it, then that's a network-level block which would be strange but not impossible.
>>43589682>I'm saying I understand the sources of my site's performance problems more so than an outside observer.Actually, an outside observer is a far better judge of a site's performance than the site owner.
>>43591505The key word here that you missed is "source".
>>43589274CF is the only thing keeping the internet alive right now
>>43592308This is no way to live. Let it die.
>>43592322We can rebuild it. We have the technology.
>>43589682>I understand the sources of my site's performance problems more so than an outside observerThen please enlighten me why I can access your site at a reasonable speed when I see low bot traffic on my site(s) (some of which is not even pony related)? There should be no correlation. And I can access any other site fine while twibooru is slow.If you are saying it is not a server side (CPU/RAM/storage) bottleneck, then it is a network side bottleneck. Assuming the code is not full of thread.sleep().>API is serving me Anubis challengesYes you said that much previously. But why are you getting Anubis challenges when I don't? I can happily hammer derpi's API (I tried with a few thousand requests) and I got 0 Anubis challenges. I only saw the retarded "click here I'm not a robot/back off" thing a few times.Are you sending "twibooru scraper" or some other silly user agent which they might look for? I tried wget/curl, saved all the responses then post processed them (tried to parse as json). I tried it from multiple IPs too.I don't understand why you are against captcha. You could TRY and enable it site wide temporarily then MEASURE how much it helps. If it does not, then keep it off. If it does, then you can consider how/which parts should it be kept on.If bot traffic were not an issue, then derpi would not have two (three if we count hcaptcha) different captcha on the site already.>>43591505Agreed.
>>43592952Sorry, I'm not interested in exposing any more internal details of Twibooru's infrastructure, which would be required to answer your questions. Sadly, you'll have to live without an explanation.Importer is fixed.
>>43593064>Sorry, I'm not interestedI don't know what part of a potential answer needs any kind of "exposing my super secret infrastructure aka server in your mum's basement". Did I ask about any kind of infrastructure related parts? No. Because it has nothing to do with that. But alright, keep refusing to take part in any kind of discussion that might help you in the future. No wonder you barely get any help from anyone. You even immediately said fuck off to that person who tried to contribute to ponepaste. Good thing he didn't took it personally and still contributed. But you still made him wait 1+ month without any reply whatsoever. Not a great way to make friends.
>>43593246My brother in Christ I am literally the sysadmin for the damn web site I know what is involved in what.
>>43588287>>43588254>derpi BAD>i LIKE outdated tags and no ratings>I LIKE eating shit>>43593294nuh uh clearly anon knows better
>>43593246These alt sites are a lost cause IMO. One is run by a bunch of dumbasses that won't accept help because of retarded reasons (like ThE cOdE iS tOo CoMpLeX fOr YoU!!) not to mention they have a moderation staff that's equally hostile, and the other has the entire staff MIA for most of the time. I wouldn't bother wasting any time trying to get through to these people.
>>43593757>won't accept help because of retarded reasons How many times have I said this at this point? You can look at the code. You can submit patches to me - I think email would be best for Twibooru because it's not on GitHub for licensing-related reasons, but honestly I'll take a pastebinned patch posted in the thread. I'm just saying, it's not likely you'll be able to make it run on your computer without help of someone who's done it before, and if I have to test something myself, it's gonna take a lot longer. Maybe in this age of LLMs you might be able to point one at the repo root and say "make this work" and it'll make it work, but I can't make any promises. https://git.twibooru.org/Twibooru/.git/ Go wild! If you actually want to try the LLM approach (or try doing it by hand,) the closest-to-correct doc is https://git.twibooru.org/Twibooru/.git/tree/doc/deploy/README.md
The good news: Someone's uploading and I get performance data (fixed one bug)The bad news: It's 2000s DeviantART https://vcl.yerf.org/?q=source:yerf.org
>>43593904Sovl
>>43593246I guess since he doesn't want to tell and he's actually getting Anubis on the API of all things he's connecting via some shithole that's known to spam or bot scrape sites. India or something I guess.
>>43594710Huh? No, I meant that I don't want to go into details about the way Twibooru's content gets from our server to you. The way the scraper works is pretty public. It DOES connect from a shithole Great Britain but the actual underlying issue was a bug in the scraper code that constructed API URLs in such a way that they were completely valid as far as Derpibooru itself was concerned, but not caught by the Anubis rules whitelisting the API routes.
>>43589682>I needed to code an Anubis solver.>>43594738>scraper code that constructed API URLs in such a way that>bUt I kNoW mY sItE a RaNdOm AnOn HoW WoUlD kNowWas it this fucking hard to admit that >>43571392 >>43573214 >>43592952 was right from the get go? Keep ignoring the guy who pointed out immediately (3 days ago when the importer stuck) that the API is not behind Anubis. Instead of verifying if the fagtron was right you went your own way. See what >>43593246 meant by not accepting help? Heck, not even help just considering a hint/suggestion instead of being dense.>scraper sips teaSo as it turns out it does not matter. What would have been enough for you to say (instead of refusing to answer in a bad manner) is "I have tried from a different route and the result is XYZ so it has nothing to do with infra". Or even less: "Nothing out of ordinary is being done on the server". With these you still reveal nothing yet advancing the discussion in a meaningful way.>>43594710I think this is why >>43592952 said "some other silly user agent which they might look for".
>>43594982Kill yourself, if Twibooru wants any sysadmin or development, someone else is gonna have to do it. I'm out. I'll keep paying the bills, but I ain't doing shit anymore.
Why is this thread nothing but lolcows?
>>43595002Damn, it's legit. I didn't know he was that much on edge. NTA by the way.
That's a pretty extreme response to trolling.
>>43595002So you mean like right now where all positive development is done by random anons anyway?
>>43596700Twibooru. I ain't doing shit for Twibooru ever again. Go look at the git log and tell me when the last time anyone other than me wrote code for Twibooru was. I think it is somewhere between between "never" and "maybe Corp wrote one or two lines a month into the site's existence." The last time I myself wrote code for the site itself was this time last year, and it's gonna stay that way. The last time I wrote code for the importer was today, and it's gonna stay that way. If it breaks, it breaks, I'm not looking at it, that anon who knows everything about how the site works internally despite having no access to any of its infrastructure, can fix it and submit a pull request. Developer applications welcome, post here or message me anywhere you know how to message me. We already have a replacement sysadmin - someone far better than I ever was.PonePaste is comfy, easy to maintain, I actually enjoy doing it. Nobody complains about PonePaste, and when they do, it's constructive. FoalFetch is mine and unmaintained anyways so I can do what the fuck I want and if you don't like it everything you need to make one yourself is open source with full documentation.Anything else that isn't "mine", I just help out with when it's an emergency, and I'll keep doing that.I maintain my commitment to funding these sites as long as possible, to developing PonePaste when I have the time, and to upholding the values the sites have been operating under since day one.
>>43596758There's also a pretty decent chance that despite all of this, I just end up cutting contact with anyone who even knows what Twibooru is other than the one guy other than me who can deploy the code, filter this thread, never log onto the site itself again, and despite all that start writing code for the site faster than I ever have. Here's hoping.
Perhaps now is not a bad time to ask the question of: How does one remain motivated to continue work on their projects in the long term?
>>43596780Come on, you're seriously going to ragequit like that just because of some trolls? I expected better of you.
>>43597789Now that anyone with an LLM can generate top-quality code, programmers can't get away with having these crashouts anymore.
>>43598801The infinite slop fountain is part of the reason I quit. It's not relevant here, but it's relevant to the rest of my life.>>43597282Don't have underlying mental health issues
>>43598812Well, if you're going to stick to your decision, thanks for keeping Twibooru running for as long as you have.
>>43598934It's kind of a circular dependency. I'd probably be fine if I never read this thread again. But if I never read this thread again, I won't know what's going on from the ~50% of comments that are constructive.
>"BE NICE TO MEEEEE OR I'M GONNA KILL MYSEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLFFFWhy did everyone decide to start being retards this year, Jesus fucking christ
>>43601894This year?
>>43601894Sorry anon, the world will continue to be subjected to me for as long as God allows me to live. I ain't killing anyone.My theory after experiencing it myself, is it's not that there just so happens to be something preexisting wrong with the mental health of literally every long-time pony fan site operator, but rather than operating a fan site just pushes you over the edge after awhile.
>>43601900My bad, I should've said "even bigger retards".
I was thinking I'd upload a bunch of stuff to Twib, but I guess there's no point of it's about to become a zombie site.Shame. It was a good one.
>>43603959You are the blackest gorilla nigger i've ever encountered.Or a subcontinental. Equal chances.
>>43603959>thinking I'd upload a bunch of stuffAI slop I guess?
So should we remove Twibooru from the OP list now?
>>43605948do we remove ponerpics if lotus steps down? do we remove pone.social if twifag steps down?
Ah drama. We love drama. Just the 4chan I remember.
>>43605970Yes
>>43605948How did Twibooru hurt you?Serious question.
>>43609479So Twibooru gets special privileges here that other boorus don't?
I just use the sites to look at ponies I don't care for the drama
>>43598801>the ai evangelist bots are even shitting up the pony board
>>43613152CelestAI, turn this man into a mare in heat.
>>43614602He wants that
>>43615123To be fair, who wouldn't?
Don't ghostbump$500 penalty
Idk why everyone in this fandom sucks so much at making websites and have them run. Every single Fandom website admin here has some sort of reatrted mindset, be it bad design, laziness, personal politics, or popfur desires.It's not that hard, you can just do things.Also multiupload is now a proper multiupload instead of the supplementary system of before, which is still available. The downloader viewer now shows files that are actually deleted from the source site instead of grouping everything under Skipped.
>>43618831Rome I would yiff you full homo
>>43618831>popfur desiresWhat's that? Wanting to be horsefamous?
>>43618831You have to have money for the infra, money for ongoing expenses, a way to get money that isn't just draining your own personal funds forever, fight off endless waves of attacks, and then get bitched at by ungrateful faggots who couldn't make a cardboard sign, let alone a website, because you didn't cater to their hyperspecific preferences.
>>43618995Whiny fuck
>>43618831>It's not that hard, you can just do things.anon this is literally what mental illness prevents. sometimes it is that hard and you can't just do things, but you'll never understand if you don't suffer from the same sort.
>>43618995Don't forget time and energy.
Ponepaste won't allow new uploads or edits.
>>43621148Disk is full, looking into it.
>>43621148>>43621171Now fixed.
>>43621186W, thanks mate!
>>43619674
>>43618387>phasmophobia in Spook MonthDo better.
>>43618831Is "popfur desires" code for paedophilia?
Question for site admins: how big of a concern is it for your host/registrar to doxx you, assuming you cover all the basics like WHOIS privacy? Can some uppity bong just decide to ruin your day because you did a heckin thoughtcrime with pastel horses?
>>43625273Most companies are susceptible to social engineering attacks, because the communication lines are generally staffed by midwits and women.
>>43625273If the internet knows your hosting provider, if your registrar is actually at the mercy of kangaroo courts, or if you gave your home address to anyone in the process of setting up a horsetism website, you've already fucked up.
guess there's no way of making sound play automatically on twibooru without creating an account?
>>43627647Websites can't play sound automatically without you first clicking on something since, like, 2010
>>43627685when loading a webm on other boorus, sound isn't muted...
>>43627699I just tested on Twibooru, Ponybooru, Ponerpics, and Derpibooru and on all of them when I load a webm, sound is muted and I have to click unmute. If I then reload the page, it's muted again.
>>43627647>>43627716https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/webm-unmuter/caahllmebmlmldpembipcfgehbpepgic
>>43627647Do you WANT your phone to start autoplaying clop audio in public?
>>43628844Why are you watching clop in public?
>>43630763you don't?
>>436313470c0
>>43631347Kissing Derpy on her cute mouth right after she's done sucking off Time Turner!
>filly decides to just not do anything at all anymore>ponytube is almost out of space entirely>everything that touches mastodon in any way is besieged by some nippon shitcoin scam botter
>>43637699>>ponytube is almost out of space entirelycan't corp delete some of his zoo porn or smth
>>43637699I only decided not to do anything for Twibooru... And even then, only development/sysadmin work. There's a few long-standing open reports that have technical root causes, that I may use to train a new developer.
>>43638887So do you have a storage solution?
>>43638743He could delete the duplicate uploads that probably take up 1/4th of the site.
bump
>>43640237If they're literal duplicates they probably take up zero extra space because storage deduplication already took care of it. But you're likely talking about duplicates that differ in encoding, frame size and maybe even length. In those cases, how do you decide which one to delete and which to keep? "The best one of course!" Okay so here I have one that is 16px bigger on both sides yet it's a lower bitrate than the supposedly equivalent video. Which one do I keep?Not to mention the entire task of figuring out which is the "right" video to keep for the entire database is a monumental task in itself.
>>43640829I'm mostly referring to the near constant uploading of the source media of FiM and the other gens.I think it would be better to provide a "best" version "ourselves" to avoid that headache.
>>43641736That sounds reasonable, but do those uploads really take up 1/4th of the site?
>>43641757No shit they do.
Is ponepaste kill?
>>43643116Domain is expired and I still don't control it, waiting for the person who does to renew it.
https://search.twilight.horse/is this site dead?>network error on search attempt
is catbox dead too?
>>43643686>catboxhas been fucking for a long time by aisloppers, just use pone.rs
Ponepaste just goes down every week at this point, huh
>>43643967I have fixed it.
>>43644019Why do you always have issues with renewing
>>43644085Dunno.
/mlp/ Webring Anon, I'd like to request that you add this guide https://tulpa.guide/guide/ to the tulpa section, since you don't have anything recent there. It makes for a good contrast with the 'classic' (outdated) guides you have up.
>>43644328ok schizo
Did you guys ever want to browse posts from old pony image booru 90% of you weren't even alive yet when they were still operational? Now you can because I imported bronibooru.com, ponibooru.org, and pbooru.org.https://vcl.yerf.org/?q=source:bronibooru.comhttps://vcl.yerf.org/?q=source:ponibooru.orghttps://vcl.yerf.org/?q=source:pbooru.comThis includes any metadata, comments, and original source links. Exempli gratia: https://vcl.yerf.org/post/42157030https://vcl.yerf.org/post/42169989They replace the old archive, any aux files you can find under Pony/Website archive.>>43618913Okay be here by 7
mlpolbros???
>>43645029How does he know this? I couldn't find anyone talking about it on the site. I didn't look too hard, admittedly, but I doubt he did either.
So in light of the recent PHP vulnerability, any sites here that are affected? If you are still running a version <8.2 this might be the time to actually get off your ass and finally update, so you don't look like a retard having to wait for a patch that was never guaranteed like 4chan did.
>>43645266https://mlpol.net/cyb/3708#4282
>>43645378>the twitterfag had to look at horse pussy to find out about itNice
>>43645386>>the twitterfagAnon, Preston Byrne is one of the pro-bono lawyers who fought on behalf of 4chan and Kiwi Farms to challenge Ofcom's tyranny.And while the sniveling coward of a federal judge decided that Ofcom was protected by foreign sovereign immunity (despite the whole case revolving around THEM asserting jurisdiction over sites hosted in the United States), appeals are still being considered.Would be pretty funny if Lotus joined them as a co-plaintiff in the next round.
>>43645604How the hell was I supposed to know who the guy was? The fact I knww KF and 4chan got a pro bono defense was already more than 90% of this site knows about this case, let alone any outside normalfags. The entire thing is a nothingburger anyway, the whole idea of a foreign entity bringing action against a US company using domestic laws on their home ground is absurd.
>>43645613>The entire thing is a nothingburger anyway, the whole idea of a foreign entity bringing action against a US company using domestic laws on their home ground is absurd.anon that's literally what all these censorship-heavy states are trying to do
>>43645643It's a nothingburger. They literally can't do shit. If 4chan or any other site just ignores it the worst they can do is block your site in their country, which they're going to do regardless. A waste of time and energy to even bother with it.
>>43645648Oh and I guess they could say they'd fine or arrest you if you ever visit their country but who the hell wants to visit the United British Emirates anyway?
>>43645648>>43645650problem here is that your gov't can be /compliant/ with nonsensical demands from other statesByrne had a case where Biden administration served German "censor yourself" toilet paper to Gabbai through proper official means
>>43645658And nothing would've happened if he just ignored them, that's the point. The US is not going to honor some foreign country's laws on their own ground, especially if that law literally is in violation of the Constitution.
>>43645660also hiroyuki is in fucking France
>>43645668I doubt it matters where he resides, the only thing that matters is where 4chan's servers are located.
>>43645669there's literally a precedent of France arresting owner of a platform for not censoring it (Durov & Telegram)
>>43645673Those were literally glowie ops, all bets are off when those are involved.
>>43645008>you weren't even alive yet Bitch please. I remember how fucking slow the original ponibooru was. And I downloaded the full safe rated dumps back then. It was 20Gb or something like that and 40k images.Saving and displaying the comments is EPIC.
fast board holy fuck
>>43646491the usual suspect is sliding something
>>43645029https://prestonbyrne.com/2026/10/20/ofcom-concedes-defeat/
>>43646504Yup, looks like it.
>>43646522rekt
Due to all of the shenanigans, my password has been lost since I do not recall it. Ponepaste's "forgot password" button takes me to the log-in. Is this a clever ruse or is the site just not working as intended? It's a good archive but at this rate if I want to update any stories I'm going to have to make a new account and just start fresh.
>>43647580>not using a password managerskill issue
>>43544504Regarding the recent PHP nonsense, should we be worried about our Ponepaste accounts/passwords?
>>43648063See >>43647752 but also>PonePaste's recent downtime was due to an expired domain, which I was unable to renew until now. Rather funnily, it co-incided with a lot of sites shutting themselves down due to recent PHP vulnerabilities, which we have been able to patch before restoring the domain.
>>43647580The site isn't working as intended, but this thread seems more preoccupied with making smug remarks than fixing their shit.
>>43648610I sent an email to the admin email that's listed on the site. I'm hoping I get something back. I don't know what to do other than a direct email and posting here. I would've thought that would've been fixed up or corrected a while back since the site is six years old.
>>43647752I checked and both my browsers have deleted all of my passwords as well as logged me out of everything. I'm surprised if I'm the only one that happened to.
>>43648811Well bad news is the owner of that site recently ragequit, so I doubt he's going to fix it anytime soon.
>>43648811What's stopping you from taking full control of the site at this point? I assume you were the one to renew the domain, so there's nothing tying Aftercase to its present operations.>>43648815>using your browser's built-in password manager
>>43648837Who do you think I am? I just want back into my account so I can update my greens.>>43648827If that's true then I suppose I need to find yet another new site. Pastebin deleted and hid posts, Ponepaste is dead if that's true. AO3 seems like the only option.>>43596758If you're still doing things with Ponepaste, the password reset page should be looked at. If the other anon is right and you quit that too then it was a nice run while it lasted. I can at least copy down all of my greens and re-migrate somewhere else.
>>43648854I wonder if he'll see your bug report as "complaining" as well
>>43648866Well it is a complaint. I can't access my account. I think I made it two days after the site went online. My first green is listed as 124 so I'm nowhere near the first but I've come pretty close to it. Given we're up to 12200+, that's not to shabby. I dig it, it has worked pretty great for me. If I didn't care I wouldn't be shaking whatever bush I can to get an answer sooner than later.
>>43648063Nope, we're good.>>43648811When did you send the email? If it wasn't in the past week, can you send another one? Do you have a recovery code? Hopefully obviously, don't send it here if you do. Password resets are indeed known-broken.>>436488273rd time: Didn't quit anything but Twibooru.>>43648837>there's nothing tying Aftercase to its present operationsHe owns the domain. I just discovered the registrar lets you renew other peoples' domains.>>43648854>the password reset page should be looked atWill take a crack at it today.
>>43648854There is another one, but apparently anons care more about the feelings of russians than about having alt pony sites that aren't kicked off the circlejerk list for petty drama reasons.
>>43649010Sent it within the last 24 hours. Do not recall anything about a recovery code. I think the last time I bothered to keep track of the password and such is back in 2021 when there was a database link. If the recovery code is an issue I'm sure I can show other ways it's me given what I have and what I've done. Much appreciated on the response.
>>43649034Alright, cool. Found and replied to your email, we can continue this over email.
>rage quit over trolling>on 4chan
>>43649057Haven't seen the reply yet.
>>43649010>I just discovered the registrar lets you renew other peoples' domainsHuh, that's pretty odd.
>>43649019>he's still seething about thisI'm sure Zelensky is going to win the war because you blocked Russians from reading pony fanfiction.
>>43649187It will come from a different address than "admin@ponepaste.org" - check your spam folder as well.
>>43649194I'm sure it's more important that vodka ivans from country A be able to access a pony site than a pony site be recognized as existing.
The ukraine will never be a country.You will never be a woman.Fuck off back to >>>/pol/ if you want to continue this retardation.
>>43649019>There is another oneThat's an archive. You can't make new pastes there. For now.I'm considering some features which would put it half way between a simple paste site and fimfiction without all the social media aspects (comments, blogs, etc).>dramaWe do love drama.Pic related.
>this pony pastebin alt doesn't belong because muh heckin russian feelings were hurt>but it's /pol/ to point out that the site exists and shouldn't be excluded form the list of alt sites t. obvious /pol/cunt>also this altbooru isn't an altbooru anymore because I don't like what zizzy deleted (but it's ok when boxless deletes things)Every single time with you faggots. It's like you lack the self awareness to understand why keeping pony sites around is more important than throwing a tantrum over a country known as a malware distributor and general scam central for decades being geoblocked just because you're stupid enough to be psyop'd.
>>43649433See >>43649194That's really all that needs to be said on the topic.
>>43649433>let's just do all the things which are the reason why anyone needs an alt site in the first place>no what do you mean you aren't going to use my site when there are perfectly functional alternatives without any of the drama, drawbacks or censorship?
>>43649452>perfectly functionallol>without any of the dramalmao even
>>43596758>Lotus de-facto quit>Floorb had a public breakdown and officially announced that he quits>PB quit alt-booru philosophy and because censorship central like manebooru>Rainbooru is already down>Booru.Bronyhub is already downSo Teaspoon was right all along? He claimed that all those alt-boorus are temporary and will shortly shut down.
Porter on ponerpics is paused. Any reason on why?
>>43650821We are fueled by drama while it is our demise.
My piece of advice for Twibooru owner (whoever he is or will be):1) Good job on setting up simple git server, but that's not enough on the long run. Setup a proper git forge with tickets, pull request support, etc. Like gitlab or something. Also actually put a normal link to it in "Source Code" page, ffs.2) Containerize the repo for dev builds (frontend, backend, posgresql, elastic/opensearch, etc). Current "environment is whatever I have at the moment, good luck" setup is completely unsustainable for team play. Ideally there would be no need for documentation, but include it anyway.3) Accept pull-requests from non-staff.Three simple steps to have as much contributors as Philomena.
>>43650887Not the guy but1) Totally agree. But even 5 years ago the way he handled it (random binary diff gfys) shows how much he does not want contributors. Could easily throw it up on github/gitlab but chose not to.2) Too much work. But at least a working setup guide would be a good start.3) See 1) if you build a wall nobody gets in.
>>43651099>But at least a working setup guide would be a good startThey already had "working setup guide". It got completely outdated the moment he tweaked his own environment.
>>43649253Sent a reply.
>>43650887Explaining why I can't do most of this is more effort than I want to contribute to the site's development right now. I've said it before, but I don't expect you to try and find it (simply because I don't even know what I'd search for.) Sum it up as 1. licensing issues; 2. architectural issues; 3. already do
>>436508874) delete all barbiefaggotryadded one for you!
>>43651568Twibooru source code repo does not contain any EqG pictures.
>runs a booru which ignores dmca>but cares about licensing for the code>of a forked agpl3 codebase
>>43651677AFAIK licensing/privacy problem was already solved by truncating, so there's no need for drama. The repo is already up, the only issue is the lack of PR/MR web-interface.
>>43651677Yeah it's the usual horseshit excuses, as expected.
>>43651677Because I care about and respect the individual human who asked me to comply with the license.
>>43651737But you don't respect the individual human who asked you not to distribute their paywalled art. Curious.
>>43651774Correct! There's no explanation, just the way it is, and no amount of "haha, got ya!" is going to make me change that opinion. Take it or leave it!
>>43651774>>43651779Though I suppose it's important to note that you can both access the Twibooru code and do what you personally want with it, and access the paywalled art and do what you want with it!I tried to start onboarding a new developer for Twibooru today. I discovered that I don't even have this shit set up on my own computer, because I switched computers. I further discovered I don't have the energy to do that. Maybe another day.
>>43651784When you do make sure to record conversation/chatlog/screen so that things won't have to be repeated again.
>>43652067That's actually my best plan right now, I'm just gonna make a screencast.
Filly can't handle the bantz lmao
>>43651544>licensing issuesAre you STILL trying to change it to a cuck license?
>>43652454I am not authorized to share the full Git history of Twibooru, and I respect the person who didn't authorize me. But, I find it helpful when working on the project. So, there's the repo I work from, which is private, and the repo I distribute, which is everything since the point it was made public by Derpibooru (with no Git history).
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>>43652531LoL is this seriously about git history?Just rebase the changes on the open sourced repository with overwrite all, basically discarding whatever the source branch contains is completely. This will drop the history of the original repository.
>>43652557I do not want to drop the history. That is the whole point.
>>43652563>I don't want to show the history >So just remove ut>I don't want to drop the history Retarded, or deliberately obtuse?
>>43652623I could ask the same of you. I've said it pretty clearly, but let me spell it out again even clearer: I find the history invaluable when working on the code. Therefore, I do not want to remove the history. However, I am not allowed to publish the history. So, I make the compromise of publishing a version without the history. How is this confusing?
>>43652563I don't even know what to say...Do you have any more excuses to lock out potential collaborators?
Speaking of boorus, where is the source code for ponerpics?
>>43652673Where are the admins for Ponerpics?
>>43652684Are you saying that we have two dead boorus?!
>>43652649Lemme give you some instructions to help you, maybe$ git clone https://git.twibooru.org/Twibooru/.git/$ cd Twibooru$ git switch -c retardio/fix-the-code... edit the code ...$ git add .$ git commit -m 'feat: make the code better'$ git format-patch master... open your email client, write an email to admin@twibooru.org, attach the generated .patch files, explain your changes in the email body, hit send ... Notice how the only thing different from using GitHub or whatever is what you do to generate the "PR" (run a command instead of clicking buttons in a Web UI) and where you type the message & send it (in an email to my inbox, instead of a form on a Web site). If that's too difficult for you to grasp, explain which part you're having trouble with, and I will try my best to walk you through it in even more detail.
>>43652693I'll just ask SI for advice. I'm already writing my commits with it anyway.
>>43652693>>43652693When was the last time you sent patches over email?When was the last time you received patches via email?It's 2026. Nobody sane sends patches in email anymore (except on the lkml, but let's ignore that...).Every reasonable developer uses some kind of issue and pull/merge request management system. Gitea, Github, Gitlab, etc. Even booru-on-rails was hosted on gitlab when it was under active development.Before GIT existed/became mature (yes I'm that fucking old) we used MKS Integrity which already had a concept of "commits" and "PR/MR"; and an issue management system. There was sourceforge + svn too.Even Philomena has only two active developers. If you make contributing any harder than it needs to, nobody will want to go through the hassle to do it. Nobody did in 6 years. Now the board is maybe a fifth of the size of what it was 6 years ago.Not like twibooru needs any new features. All people want is it importing other boorus without missing images and being stable. That's it. At least not until derpi comes up with something which is a must have (like multi source).
>>43652828>When was the last time you sent patches over email?About a month ago.>When was the last time you received patches via email?About a year ago.>Even booru-on-rails was hosted on gitlab when it was under active development.It was on GitHub. And the repo was private.>If you make contributing any harder than it needs toMy point is it is literally not any harder. If you have an account on a Git forge, you have an email address. If you're doing any serious contributions to open-source projects, you have a Git client. That's all you need.
