Come one and all to the meta-writefag and help raise the quality of MLP fanfiction! Featuring: AI!ITT: A fully self-actualized individual, small clique humiliation, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, you wouldn't download a flare, a thread about drama, replacing Twilight's spell checker with an LLM (low level mage), totally making up shit and pretending I know about it, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, religion, religion, religion, religion, religion, your commitment to being obtuse is applaudable, Shining Armor's changeling rape baby, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, religion, religion, religion, religion, religion, un-unfuckable, an OC apostle, retirement age is pretty young going by Fluttershy, Fallout Equestria is spiritually Israeli, picking the Chex Mix out of the Chex Mix, "you do you" and "go fuck yourself" are semantically equivalent, a mare who gets a Molotov cocktail cutie mark, spending his days covered in shit and muck and stink, AI, AI, AI, AI, and AI!>/fimfic/ Secret Book ClubThe one hundred and eighty-eighth book is "The Traveling Tutor and the Librarian":https://www.fimfiction.net/story/67042/the-traveling-tutor-and-the-librarianIf (You) want to participate, read through the end of chapter 24, "Breaking Up is Hard to Do", by Sunday, October 4th.>Recommended stories:Tired of adventures that meander for a million words? Fed up with super special OCs? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!New Starter Kit - http://mlpficreviews.org.uk/starter/Old Starter Kit - http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png>Common fic abbreviations used by the thread:https://ponepaste.org/7317>A list of reviews made by the Anons in this thread:http://www.mlpficreviews.org.ukUse the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story.Userscript for extra features: https://ponepaste.org/8619>An in-depth writing guide for beginners:https://eznguide.neocities.org/>Additional material for authors:Rhorse's Horse Behavioral Notes - https://ponepaste.org/932Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://poneb.in/g4VpEg4fPurdue Online Writing resources: https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/index.html and https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/creative_writing/writers/index.html>Can you pre-read my story?Post it on Google Docs or HackMD with comments enabled and give us a link.>Various reviews and riffs:Fillyanon's Bookshelf - https://ponepaste.org/5555Notkickass222urmom's Reviews - https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmomIHeartShinzakura's Reviews - https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakuraAppleanon reads fics - https://poneb.in/wmGX7FPmDeluxe Big Master Review List - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeUA Guide to Rational Fics - https://files.catbox.moe/3jzrfm.pngPrevious Thread: >>43542727
What was the last non-fanfiction book you read?
Second for best 2uo!Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/144948/the-princess-of-books
>>43558043The Martian
>>43558043I mostly read technical documents. I'm reading textbooks from the 70s and 80s right now.
>>43558043Collected works of HP Lovecraft.
>>43558043I um uhhh ummI don't think I've read anything non-pony since probably 10-12+ years ago
>>43558019>Non sequiturhttps://youtu.be/niMNRW1iZEg
>>43558067Same. I think the last thing I tried reading was one of 343's god awful Halo books.
>>43558043The Complete Works of Robert E. Howard
>>43558042Thank you for using my image OP :)>>43558043I'm reading "Calamity Club" right now and a collection of short stories by Shirley Jackson. "Nothing to See Here" was the last book I finished before those.
>get a new comment>it's the same fucking comic scam that made them close registrationsI guess paying Indians to make accounts is thought to pay off eventually. This is beneath bottom feeding at this point.
>>43558078The guy's actually in the discord whining about people calling him a scammer.
>>43558043Someone convinced me to read Tampa.It made me wish I had hot(ter) teachers in high school.
>>43558043Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad.
>>43558086kekShare a screenshot with us.
>>43558093
>>43558097>using a white woman as an avatarHow predictable.
>>43558087>TampaA friend keeps recommending this to me cause he knows I'm into older women grooming boys. Is it actually worth reading or is it just fetishistic wish fulfillment
>>43558097Lmao even their reply is AI generated.
>>43558160It was rather explicit for what's not an erotic book. I guess the author isn't called Alissa Nutting for nothing.I wouldn't say it was very hot, though. There's tons of sex in the book. It's just that the focus of the narrative is teacher Celeste focusing on all the stuff surrounding her fucking a kid. Because, you know, woman author.It's as much about the emotional and psychological aspect of sex as it is about the sex itself.Speaking of which. what makes it stand out is the way the protagonist goes about the sex. Going behind her husband's back. Pouring herself into her teaching job just to be able to suss out possible targets.Even had to fuck the dad of one of the kids to keep appearances.It's an interesting view into a woman's mind, and engaging thriller. And unlike some other thrillers written by women I've read, I think the ending and fallout is perfectly paced.So, yeah. Worth a read.
>>43558286Celeste? Or Celestia?
How is it that Gonderlane's latest slop is in the feature box? Is the staff scared to ban him even though he's reoffended?
>>43558043The Shining
>>43558375The other AI fic was still around. I don't know why it's so common for mods to have this libertarian nonsense where they're unwilling to banhammer obvious sloppers on the off-chance one just happens to write the exact same way as an LLM.
>>43558378Armor?
fuck fimfiction ever since they deleted Not Now, Big Brotherwhy pay attention to people who pick and choose what is OK enough to read
>>43558382You mean this one? https://www.fimfiction.net/story/77079/not-now-big-brother
>>43558382you the author?
>>43558043The Black Company
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/463431/daring-do-and-the-quest-for-cookies5.7/10. A filly Daring tries to capture the greatest artifact known to fillydom: freshly baked cookies. I feel like this one really threw itself away immediately. The author just lays everything out for you right at the start. It needed to be a curveball that gets thrown at the end. Daring goes on this deadly adventure for some artifact, only for it to just be a cute filly with an overactive imagination and a sweet tooth.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/463865/unblinking4.5/10. Soarin takes a walk in a Canterlot park and encounters a monster. I don't know why i keep bothering with horror oneshots. They always suck. Not only is the monster unknown but it somehow lives in the busy park in the center of Canterlot and no one has seemingly noticed the gruesome murders or done anything about them. Funniest part was the [M] tag victim. Dude literally just walks right up to the monster and it eats him. A mouse sleeping in an owl nest has more self preservation than that random gore victim had. Soarin was also useless. Any character could have been shoved in this fic.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/461799/daring-double7.5/10. The behemoth came to Baltimare and Shining and the EqG version of Daring have to stop it. The absurdist comedy of this one fit right in my wheelhouse. What can I say? I'm a sucker for "ancient evil follows modern bureaucracy in bewilderment". The plot felt relatively basic, but that served the comedy angle quite well. Probably the funniest Daring comedy fic to me I've read so far.>>43556198https://www.fimfiction.net/story/134397/indigos-secretIt's in the review queue. I really like the idea of a dark magic artifact that goes "If you want to get out, you have to lure my next meal in", creating this eternal cycle of betrayal, anger, and hurt it uses as fuel. That ending where Daring starts the cycle anew with Dash works a lot better in post-Daring Don't canon where they're actually friends.>>43558043Last one I finished was Articles of the Federation, one of those Star Trek semi-canon "official" fanfics. I tried to read Device Free Weekend recently, but dropped it a third of the way in when the protagonists didn't immediately declare their billionaire friend completely batshit crazy and instead decided to humor his fucking Bond villain evil plan like they were debating a "social media is evil" Trolley Problem.>>43558078If it makes you feel any better, Deviantart has the exact same problem.>>43558097>using the same avatar he uses for Telegram spamKek. At least he's getting his money out of it.>>43558286>thriller where Cheerilee has hide her student sex as the walls slowly close in on herI'd read it.
Nice op kek>>43557070>But the story feels... aimless.Yeah pretty agreeable post overall. I dropped gtg at the part where they keep talking about hospitals and ambulance carts or someshit. I just couldn't do it. Also, the fliers literally shitting themselves onscreen didn't help>>43557286>The fuck is M*A*S*H, this sounds like a worse acronym than TWOLOT or even ___keeek
>>43558393Well, that is surprising, because a few years ago it was not there. I know because I had to look for it.
>>43558043Basics of Philosophy by some Russian guy
>>43558653never mindyou have to have an accountIn effect, fucking uselessfuck you for getting my hopes up
>>435580431984
>>43558653Didn't darf delete all his porn fics a few years ago? And later change his mind and have them all restored?
Damn. Thought that I would have managed to autism Yu-Gi-Oh into the OP.
>>43559153There's not enough AI in Yu-Gi-Oh.
>>43559157I will never understand VRAINS fans. It had one good streak of like 10 episodes and the rest was shit. Still better than the Rush stuff though.
>>43558043currently reading War and Peace. It's a lot funnier than i expected.
>>43559152darf and I went to the same university and were in a couple of poetry classes together. I'm not exactly sure what happened to him, other than he has or had mental and financial difficulties. I don't really know much in the way of specifics, other than he hasn't been in a good place. I'm hoping he's found his stride again as of late.
The most honest man on FiMFiction.
>>43559381I swear that there was a Dorkly video with that premise.
I suck at writing action.
>>43559564You could always suck worse
>>43557940>>43557374>>43555837Both that guy's ""fics"" got nuked, and now he's having an ad hominem- and red herring-fuelled meltdown at PI because he got caught doing plagiarism with extra steps.>>43559564Writing action and writing sex have a lot in common!
>>43558043Pic related. I learned of it after a based schizo I follow on xitter mentioned the author. The book was so obscure it’s not even on Anna’s archive and I was only able to read it since there was a copy on scribd. It’s the first three chapters of a book the author never finished which is unfortunate since he is a very good writer. Why do the best writers always have to have unfinished works?
>>43559603>and now he's having an ad hominem- and red herring-fuelled meltdown at PIWhere at, I wanna see
>>43559613His blogs and one of PI's blogs, assuming they're still up.
>>43559620Lmao I like how he tacitly admits that he AI generated it too
>>43559625It's nice to see that the report button works. The staff just takes a while to reach a verdict on clanker reports to try to rule out false positives.
>>43559625He thinks the Flurryfucker guy is the guy that got him banned not realizing that it's everyone else reporting him for obvious AI slop?
>>43559586Komedy Kinography.>>43559603Unfortunately I have never wrote a sex scene because the chase is always far better.
>>43559564It's just like writing a puzzle. Start with the cool conclusion you want and work backwards from there.
>>43559613Here's his blog post. His meltdown is mostly on PI's user page, though, starting here: https://www.fimfiction.net/user/241272/PI_#comment/3593063
>>43559627>It's nice to see that the report button works.Sorry to bring up AI, but I think this could help for the future.For those who report AI stories, what do you include?I personally share the lines I find most suspicious and explain why. Since I'm a /chag/ retard, spotting them comes easily, but some can be hard to explain to someone who doesn't use the models. Obviously, it's easier when they were really lazy and left em-dash spam or obvious isms.I also attach a GPTZero report to back up what I noticed.Usually that's enough, but sometimes it doesn't work.
>>43559646I include the lines, pictures of the detector detecting things, and the fact that usually the cover is AI.
>>43559646I've been told they like when you quote obvious AI text right there in the report. That way they don't have to go hunting (which is especially convenient when only part of the text is AI). They don't put a lot of faith in AI detectors, but they're kinda like a second opinion, so it doesn't hurt.
>>43559642More likeNo Lives Leftamirite?
>>43559642Who's PI?
>>43559666The one mod left that does anything
>>43559646>mfw using em dashes since 2014 because I really like thenWhat do I do now?Just change to double hyphens?
>>43559642I mean he’s not wrong. It’s not like there are not people who are definitely pedos and pedo fics on fimfic. And the administration definitely does punish wrong think. which is officious since it’s obvious what kind of people are in the staff and what kinds of fics are obviously not on the site.
Is there some fanfic about Spike accidentaly hurting Twilight with his flame and then following up with some story about forgiveness and stuff?
>>43559677just because there's pedos doesn't change the fact that he's an AI faggot. AI faggots and pedos can BOTH get the boot. There's boots enough to go around, in fact.
>>43559680Why are you so obsessed with maintaining your sense of moral righteousness and vindication over this one guy who made a story with ai?
>>43559677Whether we like them or not, the rules have always been clear. AI slop is against the rules. Human pedo stories are against the rules. Both get deleted. Foalcon stories might be sick, but they're not against the rules. If you don't like that, you can advocate for changing that rule, and you can shun authors of foalcon stories. But don't pretend that that has anything to do with the fact that AI slop is against the rules.
>>43559688Hi Lives. Learn to fucking write.
>>43559674Don't change anything. AI use of them is really obvious and quite different from normal human usage, even for people who genuinely like them.I doubt anyone uses em-dashes as the only method of detection anyway — it's more like the final em-dash on the slop when there are other signs.
>>43559629It takes practice. You want short, snappy sentences a lot of the time, as well as a lot of vivid sensory details and an unerring commitment to sticking with one POV.>>43559646>For those who report AI stories, what do you include?I just said I suspected it was AI in the report. I've met a chunk of the Fimfic staff on several occasions, so I elaborated a bit more in DMs with one, advising him to compare parts of both that guy's stories in order to contrast the styles (a damning hallmark of clankers). It took some time for action to be taken because mods do not make unilateral decisions on actioning alleged slop stories.>>43559674People who try to accuse you of AI based solely on em dash and/or Oxford comma usage are retarded and not worth your time. The best way to avoid and shutdown allegations is to find your voice. I have mine, and there's no question my work is exclusively human-written.
>>43559688Because morally and in every other way that matters, I am superior to a slop peddler.
>>43559743¿Por qué Manzanita es mitad burra?
>>43559784Because spanish Applejack would be too sexy for this world to handle. The world can BARELY handle fat latina milf Pinkie.
>>43559784She's always been half-donkey. Just look at that ass.
>>43559646I pursue a different strategy than most do, focusing on mismatches on punctuation symbols (ex: " " vs “ ”). Any given OS/word processor setup will only consistently produce one of them (all " " or all “ ”), and having the story randomly switch from one to the other multiple times throughout is like someone handing in a manuscript with two distinct handwriting styles in it and saying he wrote it all by himself.I think of it as much more "concrete" proof than prose analysis because the implausible-but-still-concievable "I actually just happen to write exactly like the AI does!!!"-defense (which mods sometimes fall for) simply does not work here. Nobody would, say, switch what type of apostrophe they use (and nothing else about the typeface) only when specific characters are talking. It'd be a smoking gun that it's a mix of human prompt and AI output (unless the desc says it's a collab between two authors).I also extend this principle to severely noticable changes in prose within the same story, especially if it accompanies the punctuation changes. Lots of grammatically competent snippy one-liner GPTslop suddenly broken up by a huge run-on sentence with very basic vocabulary, a couple typos, and a different type of quotation mark than usual, would be a strong indicator that the author of that sentence didn't write the more polished parts of the story.At any rate, I [quote][/quote] the specific snippets I'm comparing/contrasting and directly link the chapter(s) they're found in, any author comments/blogposts I use as additional evidence, etc. and accompany them with an explanation of what stands out about these excerpts and why it's a sign AI was used. It requires more effort and time to do it this way, though, and I sometimes go as far as waiting for a couple more chapters of a story to release in hopes they'll have a better example of the "human" parts mismatching the rest of the story in the author notes or something. I've been burned by seeing extremely blatant AI slop get reinstated after initially being taken down, so I try to dot my i's and cross my t's ahead of time so that I can make a good enough case to stand up against whatever excuses the slopper will try to use to wiggle their way out of it.https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/1145046/Here's a guide on the punctuation thing. Even if pointing out more obvious signs of AI usually works, it never hurts to include some additional evidence whenever the author's prominent enough that the mods might give them the benefit of the doubt, or if they've successfully gotten stories reinstated before by lying through their teeth.
>>43559646>Sorry to shit up the threadNo worries mate
I tried asking last year and nobody remembered it, but I figure I'll try again...I'm trying to find a fic I vaguely remember reading on EQD in like 2013–2014. The plot followed some stallion getting possessed by some evil(?) demon spirit thing that escaped containment under canterlot. I remember early on it made him kill some professor (who was apparently Twilight's favorite) and he was freaking out the whole time, and then later it made him go eat at a griffon restaurant because it hadn't tasted meat in centuries and wanted to eat some steak while possessing him.I don't remember what its long-term goals were, but it was either "I'm not evil on purpose, I just HAVE to kill people to get power or stay alive or some shit" or trying to stop some yet-to-be-introduced greater evil. I only read the first couple updates so I didn't get to see where the plot went. I think the MC's dad was also one of the guards that had been assigned to the demon containment chamber (or whatever it was), but I don't remember anything important coming of that—he didn't die during the escape or anything.I stopped reading around the griffon restaurant scene, and I unfortunately don't remember the name of the protagonist or author either. I don't know that the story was even all that good, I just feel like finding it again for nostalgia's sake.
>>43559642Oh my god look how much he's going on defending AI on the page.Motherfucker is shameless.
>>43558042Critique my fic idea>a pony learns he’s technically a lord after following a paper trail relating to his family line for an unrelated reason>he decides to use this to establish himself as an actual lord of the lands his family used to oversee long ago, along with the responsibilities that entails. Initially to the displeasure of the locals (and other nobles) to which over the course of the story he gradually endears himself to and befriends as he adjusts to his new life. >while this is happening he is also investigating what happened in the past that resulted in his family no longer being nobles as it seemed like the history of whatever happened had deliberately been erased.
>>43559906Pretty solid, but you'll have to balance it. Definitely have to make him in over his head and vaguely pathetic and a fish-out-of-water for it to work. I'm pretty sure Georg had a similar premise with The One That Got Away.
>>43559910>Definitely have to make him in over his head and vaguely pathetic and a fish-out-of-water for it to work.My idea was to do the opposite since I thought that that was played out and boring. I would Have the MC be competent and effective but unpleasant as an individual. Excessively disagreeable, abrasive, inconsiderate, a prideful, a bit temperamental, resentful, lacking in sympathy for others, Machiavellian, willing to manipulate and hurt others to get what he wants, etc. it wouldn’t be as severe as I’m making it seem here. It would be mild. My idea is that the crux of that part of the story would be him learning to temper himself for the benefit of others and himself to he can actually live a fulfilling life and have friends. While from the other side the characters he befriends come to care about him and appreciate him for the good qualities he has the the good things he’s done in spite of his flaws, while also helping him temper himself.
>>43559966Yeah that's not enjoyable. That's like borderline rationalfic.
>>43559966Just make the protagonist golly instead of making a teenager's edgelord OCIt still won't be good but at least it could relate to the world and be real fanfiction
>>43559966That sounds pretty good to me.>>43559968Okay, I agree it would not be enjoyable if done as a rationalfic. But unless the author is a certain kind of autist, that's not likely.
>>43559966Sorry man, but if you want people to like the MC he has to be at least a little bit pathetic. Look at all the Mane 6.
>>43559966I read a fic like this recently where Sunset comes back to Celestia with the crown and demands the throne and Celestia is like "Sure, here you go, lol" and instead of her being overwhelmed by not understanding how to be an effective ruler she was good at everything and did it all right and was always correct, even if she was mean.It fucking sucked.
>>43559976Isn't a character with no relevant experience showing up to a community that doesn't want him and declaring himself their new leader, citing his family's historical status as failed nobles, inherently pathetic?
>>43560064If he's immediately effective and competent then no.
>>43559966>Excessively disagreeable, abrasive, inconsiderate, a prideful, a bit temperamental, resentful, lacking in sympathy for others, Machiavellian, willing to manipulate and hurt others to get what he wants, etc. it wouldn’t be as severe as I’m making it seem here. It would be mild.Sounds like Blueblood jr.
>>43560085The worth of nobility is in its established presence and relationships with other nobles to negotiate protection and favorable trade relationships with them as well as representing the interests of their lands to a centralized government. Some fucking loser in a mid life crisis doesn't get to be an "immediately effective" lord. Without legitimate backing from the powers that be he's just the village idiot who seems to believe he's the local lord while everybody ignores him.
>>43559906>>43560064So basically the part of the plot of S1 that peaks in Winter Wrap Up? Nobility is a racket. Without a gang of his own he would end up in concrete shoes.
>>43559784>>43559743I always preferred "Juana Manzana" for AJ.
>>43559688I've been avoiding engaging with this autist for the past ten threads but it's pretty obvious it's just one obnoxious faggot as well as being a very clear giga schizo, who's been obsessing over his made up moral righteousness over anything he thinks is slop. I'd just let him be, it's like watching a monkey in a cage
>>43560288Saying this about a fic that was, in fact, AI slop, is funny.
>>43560385The AI author in question decided he'd just go to the far more respectable DeviantArt, where it turns out his profile in question is full of nothing but AI generated art, usually involving/honoring Charlie Kirk.
Daring horror fic's now at 4k. I'm still not confident in my "standard" narrator's ability to pull off the right horror tone. I'm trying to start it of as a normal Daring adventure oneshot, then the shit hits the fan.>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/460514/daring-do-and-the-inexplicable-artifact4.5/10. Daring and Twilight discover a strange device and have to figure out what it does. This one suffers from perhaps the worst problem an adventure fic can have: it's boring. There just isn't ever any real tension throughout the story. There were loads of opportunities for dramatic irony and doing a "Writing on the Wall" drama thing, but nope. Everything just happens without any real issue or concern. There's a weird comedy tone to the fic, which would have been something, if the author bothered to actually roll with the absurdism of finding a perfectly intact and functioning neutrino emitter/detector and actually making the story funny, but instead it really clamps down on the funny. This is probably the author's fault, but Daring and Twilight also have nearly no chemistry with each other, as well.>>43559564I've always found action easy. It's when there's more than three characters in a room talking to each other that my brain melts.>>43559642>you made a blog post about leaving the site but you're still sitting here arguing your ai slop should be allowed? Leave already. Im not going to explain to you what thought crime is and why we don't punish it.Based Fimfic mod.>>43559646i think one anon previously said he would dig up examples of the user's "real" writing that typically was full of grammar and spelling issues and contrast it with the clean AI writing. >>43559906Reminds me of the "Ponyville is now Twilight's fiefdom" comedy genre from S4. Is it a comedy or serious? If serious,>his family used to oversee>no longer being noblesHow is this resolved? If they no longer rule the land and aren't landed gentry anymore, then how's he able to reassert that authority? The locality would just tell him to fuck off since the Crown doesn't recognize his claims.There's also the matter of whoever the current claimant is. Presumably, his land would have been given to another noble family in the area when their claim was revoked. He'd have to beg Celestia/Parliament/Courts to get that overturned before he could actually take power.Now, if it's a comedy, there's a lot more leeway for the "whoops, I found a piece of paper and am now thrust into the role of a Baron" kind of angle, but then >>43559966 doesn't really work well in a comedy plot and you have to fall back to >>43559910.
>>43560441>There's also the matter of whoever the current claimant is.No, the peasants have been maintaining an empty mansion and other property for generations, obviously.
>>43558375He either manipulated his way to convince staff or had writers he is buddies with like Ebonyglow help him do so.Either way, he has connections and will keep on slopping and editing just enough, maybe even more now, to continue getting away with it. Just like its also rumored that he gets away with tracing AI slop for his art, but that isn't relevant to this thread.
>>43559900Huge W for pedochads.
The bookclub anchorpost will be ~90 minutes early today because I won't be home to post it at the appropriate time.Sorry for the inconvenience to anyone who's still trudging along!
Imagine something witty about 'come' in 'Comedy', here in>/FSBC/I am starting to get comfortable with the idea that this fic isn't... good. Mind you, I still think it's only slightly underperforming as a [Comedy], so actually reading it isn't too boring or unpleasant. However, last week's problems grow increasingly obvious, and it's hard to overlook them. To sum up how I feel about this fic, I am probably not going to leave an updoot on it, which is a pretty big "it's bad" flag if you've read any of my posts itt. But as far as mediocre fics go, this one is still decently fun to read, and I don't feel compelled to drop it. Does that make sense? I hope it does.To not waste too much time, the #1 issue is what pretty much everyone reported last week. Whether you called it poor pacing or characters acting at random, the plot/relationship progression in this is a mess. I get wanting to make it a bit chaotic, but it feels as if our green OC and the other OC (the one called Twilight Sparkle) spend a week engaging in a wide variety of interactions that range from moderately hostile to wife behavior. And while the overall trend is them growing closer over time, the pacing is such a mess you can only infer that from zooming out and thinking about what happened all week. When Twilight flipped her opinion on Green, it really was a flip, not progress. The "relationship progress" chapters aren't enough.I think the 'relationship' here is mostly a vessel for sex jokes and suggestive scenarios to fuel the [Comedy] god. This is subjective, but I found the funni in this fic continuing to be medium. And, like I said last week, the amount of [Sex] and allusions in this E-rated fic is crazy. It's one thing when there are several chapters written as if Twi and OC are preparing to finally have sex (it ends up being effectively a study session), but you also have stuff like Twi-mom asking Twi if the OC is using condoms with her. For the sake of a joke, mind you, but I think if that's the kind of humor you're going for, your fic is definitely a T. What are we even doing here otherwise?Oh, and it's good that someone realized that Celly supporting forced marriages in a light-hearted setting in modern Equestria is a mess, and the writer deserves a mention for trying to fix that nonsense.So, do I want to finish it? At this point, we're close enough that we might as well? I think there's a bit of a hidden cost in dropping fics, making the bookclub appear more unreliable. Especially when the fic objectively isn't awful or anything. But if I'm literally the only one still going, there's maybe no point in wasting a week.[VOTING]I plundered the old SK for a few more recs by our 2014 peers: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/51703/salvationhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/6195/it-takes-a-villagehttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/71009/clean-slatehttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/133544/of-the-hivehttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/5553/the-wind-thief (did you buy it yet?)
>>43560811+1 vote for "Of the Hive"
>>43560811Of the Hive as well.second place vote for "Clean Slate".
I like how I talk about how Georg can't help inserting parenting or pregnancy stuff and boom, Twilight's mom is pregnant in this.The prose is still good but this went from a comedy of errors to them suddenly being romantically involved and it feels like it skipped a step or missed a chapter where they went from accidentally sleeping together to wanting to sleep together.
>>43560811Clean Slate looks interesting.
>>43558043The Big Four - Agatha Christie. Honestly a pretty mediocre Poirot.
>>43560898The funny thing is on paper Green Grass is a decent partner for Twilight. Minor nobility, gets along well with her interacially adopted child, good with foals, likes books and learning and is slightly autistic. Like under normal circumstances if not for the whole comedy of error bit I'd be like "Yeah sure, it makes sense that they'd end up fucking", but that goes back to the pacing issue. It's written like a typical romcom.
>>43559743> latinaNow this is some lame shit right here. WHERE ARE THE ASIAN BADDIES? OR THE FRENCH OR SCANDINAVIAN? NATIVE AMERICANS? PACIFIC ISLANDERS?> oh, muh latina! Muh latina!LATINAS AINT SHIT. THEY FARTING LOUD AND CONSTANTLY AND IT SMELLS LIKE DEATH. The moonlight doesn't glow on them in an appealing way, unlike asian bitches or french bitches. The sweat doesn't gleam off of their bodies like native americans and pacific islanders. Their language isn't cute like scandinavians. They're not even loud in the cute way like the scottish, and that's a niche shit. They're just loud and annoying.FUCK LATINAS. THIRD WORST TYPE. FUCK THAT SHIT.
>>43561107>french bitchesJesus man.
>>43561107>THIRD WORST TYPEWait, what are the worst two?
>>43561128Bat ponies and snow ponies.
>>43561107>FUCK LATINASI can do that.
>>43561180Pinkie Pie would never let you near her
>>43561128Israelis and SPECIFICALLY african-AMERICANS.Real africans are actually kinda interesting. Cool culture, funny dialect/accent, aggressive go-getters who always stay optimistic, and stern parents. Not the biggest fan of brown, but good traits are good traits.But african americans?Oh buddy.This shit is the unspeakable evil that aku wrought unto this future.And israelis?Look, it's not just "muh jews bad" schtick. I could put these fuckas in last place due to their cuisine ALONE. NASTY ASS food. And their culture sucks ass, and they smell bad.Funny music though. Klezmer is like clown music.Dishonourable mention goes to neo-changeling bitches. I don't care if Ocellus talks cute. Facebook marketplace ass Fluttershy with none of the depth or charm, ugly colours for a bug, and kindness and bugness don't mix. If I want bug ass, it's because I want to torture myself, and chrysalis changelings have the right attitude for that. If I want unwavering kindness and unconditional love, ponies like flutterbutter and candyass the peetzer horse have the shape, colour, softness, and warmth to compliment such a nature. And If I want rude shouting cute anrgy scottish bitches, I hope there's a Scottish gryphon girl made just for me.
>>43561189>If I want bug ass, it's because I want to torture myselfBAAAAASED
>>43561107>>43561189Sir, your taste is impeccable, and I know that I'm speaking for more than myself when I say that your unwavering conviction is an inspiration to us all. Thank you for your contributions to this humble pony fanfiction thread.I love this place.
how long does gold meddle have to finish his corpse chapter?
>>43561236Until it starts to smell.
I just started a reread of the alicorn adventures series, so idc if the club does this shite for another week
>>43561361Is it worth it? I've read them all and have fond memories of a few, but I don't think it was worth the pain of reading through the second one.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/594722/my-little-pony-friendship-is-abrasiveIs this any good? It seemed to get oddly popular in such a short time for a first time author.
>>43561463>A retake of MLP:FiM including my OC.
>>43561463>Is this any good?>A retake of MLP:FiM including my OC.What do you think?
>>43561463I haven't looked at the story you linked, but a quick look on AO3 shows four stories by someone with the same name. So they might be new to FiM, but maybe they're already a practiced writer?
>>43561475>The filly quickly wiped away the tears her eyes had spilled out and shook her head. She needs to find a way to convince Applejack that Brass isn’t a bad person.A tense error. At least it's not AI.
>>43561463>It seemed to get oddly popular in such a short time for a first time author.That's not exactly that unusual. It happens sometimes, even to anons here.
>>43561463>A retake of MLP:FiM including my OC.>Too much brainpower for his poor lil' head.He's going to ship his OC with Twilight, I can tell.
>>43560811It takes a village. Started this fic 10 years ago and it has remained on my "on hold" list since. Would love to revisit it again
>>43559628Speaking of which, have you seen his own personal blog? The guy is NUTShttps://flurryfucker.blogspot.com/
>>43561687>have you seen his own personal blog?No.Why would I?
>>43561687Why did FlurryFucker get banned?
>>43561702What do I care? Just trying to start a conversation, just saying this guy might be a real life rapist.
>>43561716Who knows?
>>43561719I think he's more likely to be a real life lolcow.
So what am I supposed to like?Am I just supposed to suck your dick all the time and be miserable with you?
>>43561723Who are you even fighting with?
>>43561361>oc stallion x twilight shipfic actually killed (for real, he's not coming back) twiflag (to death)>>43561387None of them are bad, and The Luna Cypher isn't even the least good.
Clean Slate is fic I read a couple of years ago, and despite being 'pretty long' it didn't leave much of an impression. Decent, as far as I remember, but it didn't live up to the emotion inherent in its premise.
>>43561716Flurryfucker got banned?
>>43561855He went too far with the pedo troll schtick, so it makes sense.
>>43561855In his personal blog he implies is not a permaban, so he'll probably be back and chew everyone out.
>>43561929Why do we care about this person again? You can just ignore people like this and not think about them.
>>43561931I just think he is stirring things up, he is entertaining in his own insanity, his meltdowns are funny and scary at the same time, and, what do you mean again?
>>43561931It's more funny watching the drama between him and the AI faggot unfold.
>>43561941Ugh, moron even started bragging about why he went to jail.
>>43558433Planning to read ITCON after that? Both people ITT who read it besides me said they weren't going to read the source material.
>>43562047It's the most obvious, low-effort fucking bait in the world. No adult (whose brain wasn't rotted by drugs and/or AI psychosis) would seriously believe "I got crack from cracklandia and then kicked a homeless baby and screamed in another baby's ear at a restaurant but got the BABY kicked out because I knew the manager", so I'm convinced you're just fishing for more reactions to your shitty bait. He mentioned "getting attention on 4chan" despite nobody on his profile telling him he was mentioned here, which means he's clearly one of you.I'd say "at least make the comment about one of his stories if you're going to keep mentioning him", but I already did that with his first fic back in february and they're all the same anyways so I'll just link it.https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43061429/#q43063854
Imagine having beef with a baby.
>>43562096OMG HE'S HERE? FUCK OFF, FlurryFucker, you're a fucking moron, take the ban like the man you think you are but aren't
>>43562096Yeah, I don't think anyone believes that, so FlurryFucker, go fuck yourself
>>43558043Wind and Truth. I prefer the first three books.
STOP TALKING ABOUT HIM! THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS, for some reason?
>>43562137I heard the fifth was kinda weak. Shame because Oathbringer I loved. I just fell out of the Brando Sando wagon after the secret projects because that's when I discovered pony fanfic.
>>43560811>not a single other post about the club fic todayFucking yeouch. Are we dropping this one? Has this ever happened before? I also dropped it after week one, but I thought at least one other anon would thug it out.
>>43562159I had my post. >>43560898
>>43559646Why not just include SillyTavern screenshots of similar writing? Is what I'd do if I cared enough to report.>>43562143It had a lot of things I disliked and some things I liked. Still worth the read and to be fair topping WoR and Oathbringer is a very tall order.I plan to re-read the series soon so maybe my opinion on the quality of the book itself will change, however the first three will always be the best in my opinion.
>>43562159Like Rariflag already said, the other time it happened was In Sheep's Clothing, but that story was mostly good. It looks like Of the Hive will be next, split across two weeks somewhere near the middle. It's a little bit funny that this one got picked up before Integration.
>>43561387Well there's a new one I haven't read so I figured I( should re-familiarize myself. I did thoroughly enjoy it the first time around though so I'm looking forward to reading it again.>>43561728>>oc stallion x twilight shipfic actually killed (for real, he's not coming back) twiflag (to death)rip lyrafag ._.7
>>43558043Good soldier SvejkOn the other hand, I recently read through Austraeoh and liked it quite a bit. Anyone know of other adventure stories in a similar vain?
>>43562159There were two brave troopers still going this week: >>43560898 and >>43561072.It's just that they didn't link back, and by now the fic is clear enough that it's hard for me to find anything to argue about. >droppingI don't know. Should we? Reading it to the end would be mostly diving in for the reasons of sunk cost fallacy, but also, it's fairly close already and the fic isn't offensively bad or unpleasant to read. And yes, Of The Hive is next, potentially Clean Slate queues right behind it. I'll post week-to-week splits later.
Daring horror fic's at 5.5k, but most of today's stuff will need to be rewritten since it's shit.>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/407474/daring-do-and-the-ancient-outpost5/10. Daring and her apprentice go on a dig in the Dragonlands. This one feels much more like a SoL fic than an adventure. It's a "spiritual sequel" to the ancient weapon story and so also tries a twist ending with the "dig too deep" thing. Problem is, that twist ending means there's no excitment to the adventure plot and it just turns into Daring going on a boring archeolgoical dig. Would have been fine if it had that comfy SoL tone and feel, but it did not.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/396985/daring-do-and-the-wailing-mountain7/10. Daring helps a stallion stop a volcano sacrific cult. This was another solid entry in the short adventure fic genre. There was some nice suspense and tension over whether the [Dark] tag would claim Daring's life. Only real rpobelm was the narrator at the climax. I had to re-read it a few times and still struggled to make sense of what, exactly, was actually going on with the portal thing. Definitely could have been a little clearer. Still, not a bad Daring adventure fic.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/387732/an-adventure-unknown8.5/10. Favorited. Dash takes Daring on a trip back to Somnambula. Another fantastic standout. I think this is the first "normal" DaringDash fic I've read. Everything up to now has been weird porn. The writing was very solid and pretty tight, but the narrator just could not shut up. I don't know if it's just a "romance fic" tone or what, but the narrator just kept going on and on about every minute detail. Every eye position. Every wing flick. Every time Daring felt heat in any part of her body. Felt like I was reading a fetish fic at times with how detailed the narrator was getting. There was also a weird "pornfic prelude" feel, especially in the train scene, where it felt like the two would just start having sex at any second, with how sensual they were getting with each other, despite the actual shipping stuff not happening until the end of the story. All that said, it was still a really nice intro to regular DaringDash shipping. Quite a shame it looks like an itch I'll never get to scratch again unless I do it myself.>>43560898>Georg can't help inserting parenting or pregnancy stuffMaybe it's just his multichapter ones? The "flavor of the week" Daring oneshot he did after Daring Don't aired didn't have any of that in it.>>43561463>episode rewrite with an OC>Is this any good?Anon...>>43561687>kicked a homeless crack babyThe crossover between Monsters and Mind Over Matter I wasn't expecting.
>>43562405 >https://www.fimfiction.net/story/387732/an-adventure-unknownI started reading the SpitfirexRedheart fic by that author and I'm enjoying it so far. I can always appreciate an uncommon ship if it is done well. Pretty sure the flowery and heavy narration is just part of the style. It reminds me of a dating VN.
>>43561236Two more days, and I hope he's AWOL and not replying to my messages about it because he's working on it and not because he's having a breakdown.
>add the next fic to my FSBC bookshelf>the total number goes down by one>this means two fics were removed from the site>this has happened before>go check if it's what I think it isIt's that time of the month again, folks. Mono has taken down The Creature and The Knight again and also disabled ratings on all her fics.
>>43562959A bit of column A, a bit of column B. I'm doing better now, and will attempt to marathon through the rest of my writing in the time I have remaining.
>>43562405>The "flavor of the week" Daring oneshot he did after Daring Don't aired didn't have any of that in it.A lot of his oneshots do it, though.
If ponies had an ancient flood myth like a lot of human cultures what do you think it would be about?
>>43563157Cultural memory of Discord.
>>43563157Human civilization
>>43563157WindigoesOr >>43563158, but probably windigoes.
>>43563157Gen 1's events
>>43563241That seems about right.
Are there any romance fics where one of the characters kills themselves and then the rest of the fic is the other one dealing with the aftermath/learning how to live after that?
>>43563640https://www.fimfiction.net/story/500819/
>>43563644Please kill yourself
I wouldn't read this story, but the synopsis made me laugh.
>>43563809Yeah, dialogue punctuation errors in the short description aren't the most compelling sell.
>>43563828Are there errors? Is it the dot inside the speech marks because I've heard different opinions concerning that. Or is it the somewhat dubious way he used 'return'?
>>43563979>"Mother." He sighed.You can consider this correct, if not a little awkward.>"Disgrace." She returned.It comes off as though the author was trying to say, "Disgrace," she replied, which would constitute an error here. Otherwise, "she returned" feels like a failed attempt at truncating the sentiment she's throwing the sigh back at him, but that's not apparent—at least to me.
I need help finding an old ficWhat I remember is that the sun is fading, and celestia cant get it warm enough anymore (or maybe she died and thats why the sun is fading)Twilight takes over but can barely light it enough, a perpetual winter takes overTwilight begins to go crazy and makes a celestia robot/AI thingAnd, like all truly great fics, it was never finished
>>43559784Farm "horse" = donkey. Really all dirt ponies have some degree of donkey in them, everyone knows this. Every couple generations the genes align and you get a full mule or hinny.Big Mac is a retarded jumart and AJ came out half-mule, we're not sure if she can produce foals. Thank fuck AB came out normal.
>>43564001Is there any fanfic about octavia being a donkey?
>>43564001Burrotavia is pure sex>>43564004I also want to know
>>43563986To me, it reads like a continuation of his dialog, then her physically returning to a location. Really, the only thing wrong here is that it's not its own paragraph, but that's Fimfic's limitation, nothing the author can do about it.
>>43564018My take could be cooked, but the way it's written in the format just comes off as all wrong for me. That's definitely something the author should've factored in when writing that part.
So what are some actually good twilight male OC romance fics?
>>43564075Ask the anon who keeps trying to hawk Journey with a Batpony.
>>43564113I glance at that sometimes but it seems too into its conlang.
>>43564248That's funny, I've seen cause to complain about my Tuna being too flavorful.
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/165982/daring-do-and-the-golden-shower7/10. Daring hosts a hot, muscular stallion to help her get some equally hot liquid all over her face. This one was a classic comedy fic bait and switch. Pretty much textbook for the genre, but it still made me laugh with the tension over whether the comedy tag was pulling its weight or the sex tag was.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/163649/daring-do-takes-a-bubble-bath5/10. Exactly what the title says, only Dash keeps trying to muck it up. This one missed for me. Dash just acts too weird in it for the comedy to really connect well. Makes her feel really OOC.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/158064/ak-yearling-tries-to-write-a-sex-scene5.5/10. Daring's publisher forces her to write a sex scene. This one has that problem I keep noticing where the comedy is really weirdly toned down when it needs to be jacked up, resulting in a fic with little humor and a boring plot.>>43563157Grogar and Tambelon or if you want to do a natural disaster then whatever happened that ended with the unicorns controlling the sun and moon.>>43563640https://www.fimfiction.net/story/556162/the-long-yearMaybe? Haven't gotten to the longer daring mutli-chapters yet so I don't know how AJ actually dies and it doesn't have the suicide tag. Seems to definitely have the "learning how to live after" thing going on, at least.>>43564248>seems too into its conlangWe talking full blown COPE-tier?
Still on the Austraeoh series. Finally reached the hiatus point for Utaan. Now time to wait for a long time.
>>43558043Tacitus' Agricola and Germania.
How's that writing going?
>>43565170
>>43565170I spent 3 hours on it yesterday. I only wrote a few paragraphs and only progressed through three pages of already written material. What the fuck?
>>43562975Good thing I just read most of their Twarity stuff again like 3 days ago (although one of the earlier ones seemed to be missing)
>>43564558Jesus Christ you actually read that far in? That’s almost million words iirc.…So how good or bad is the story by that point?
>>43565241>So how good or bad is the story by that point?NTA. It's complete dogshit.
>>43565260Elaborate
>>43560811I decided to read this after the bookclub is over and I agree with all of the critiques. It’s not paced very well, the romance isn’t done well, the character writing isn’t very good, it’s not funny, and a lot of the plot is driven off of misunderstandings that don’t get corrected and that even if they are corrected the characters ignore and don’t change their intuitive opinions on even in spite of evidence that demonstrates that it is wrong which is one of my MOST hated tropes in story writing BECAUSE ITS ENTIRELY PREDICTED ON THE CHARACTERS INVOLVED BEING TO RETARDEDLY OBSTINATE INARTICULATE AND UNWILLING GO GO AGAINST THE FEELINGS OF OTHERS FOR THE CONFLICT TO BE RESOLVED NORMALLY AND IN A SATISFACTORY MANNER WHICH IS STUPID AND ADDS NOTHING TO A STORY THAT ISN'T ABOUT TEACHING A LESSON RELATING TO THAT IT IS ENTIRELY POINTLESS AND NEGATIVE!
>>43565170I've been exceptionally productive this month. Managed to get no less than 1k words down each day of this previous weekend.
>>43565170Got four scenes left to write and then my next mid-sized fic will be done.
>>43565408Come to think of it this is pretty similar to how Changeling, Love, and Lollipops went too (male OC is forced to basically spend time with the mane 6 romantic interest and falls for her).And THAT one ended with Pinkie getting pregnant despite it supposedly being impossible in-universe.
You know what's disappointing me about this Scootaloo's abusive mom fic getting fucked? The food lore isn't even that great, despite the guy being a chef.
>>43565670What did you expect? 90% of "chefs" are drug addicts with delusions of grandeur.
>>43565674That's not an excuse, my morphine abusing overweight grandfather had a whole recipe book that still holds up hard.
>>43565670But are their food analogies? That’s the real question?
>>43565697Not really.
>>43563640This anon >>43563644 is just doing the troll bit, however Tower of Diamond by the same author is effectively about that, you just get the far future aftermath first and the romance+suicide last.
I finished listening to the audioplay of Daring Douche recently. Does anyone know any other good (for lack of a better term) "jerk-questria" stories? Vaguely self-satirizing/meta-ironic, involves characters getting into problems due to low-IQ/impulse control/foresight, and just generally acting like unrepentant jackasses to one another? Doesn't have to be RGRE or horny the way Daring Douche was.
>use "brianiac" in your fic>check the transcript search to see if it's canon>it is>Superman is canonStill shocks me that's the etymology for the word.>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/151628/daring-didnt5.5/10. Daring fails to stop Ahuizotl's evil plan in Daring Don't. Pretty bog standard "flavor of the week" episode-based comedy oneshot featurebait. Wasn't all that funny but it wasn't terrible.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/152272/daring-do-and-the-celestial-correspondence5/10. Daring and Celestia send "faithful student" letters to each other. Didn't like this one that much. It's supposed to mirror the pilot with Twilight but whereas Twilight's merely sperging out over some ancient story, Daring's actually fighting a monster who confesses to wanting to destroy Equestria and Celestia's still like "shut up and go make friends." What the fuck are you talking about, Celestia? Of course Daring's going to tell you to stuff it. I would, too.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/151225/words-on-the-page3.5/10. Daring reads a shipping fanfic Dash wrote. Man, I'm going to be chasing that initial DaringDash high for the rest of my life, aren't I? This one was pretty bad in comparison. The grammar and structuring were rough and it was just way too short for the romance plot to really develop and stew like it needs to in these things.>>43565170Pretty good. My attention shifted from the Daring horror oneshot back to my long dormant bat pony fetish sequel now that the weather's getting cooler and horniess grows as a result. I still intend to get the horror thing done before the end of the month.>>43565670>doesn't write what they knowI'll never understand that. Reminds me of that real estate agent anon from a while back that never bothered writing a comedy fic about someone buying a house in Ponyville.>>43566280>Daring DoucheThank you, Wattpad, for locking me behind a login prompt and sparing me from looking at any more greentext. I hadn't realized how bad the greentext format/genre was. I think it'd take 1/10 prose over that.
>>43565170Edited over two dozen pages today. Only like 500 to go...>>43565241>Jesus Christ you actually read that far in?Heh, this is the series I point to when I say why I almost never read incomplete stories. I basically require overwhelming evidence the author will actually finish their shit in order for me to waive that rule.
I finally finished reading FOE. It was actually really good. I don't get why a lot of people on the board seem to hate it. I personally loved it a lot.
>>43566470Whatever rocks your boat, mane.
>>43566481Finish your chapter.
>>43566728Good mystery fics involving the main six that don’t deviate a lot from canon because of the plot and the nature of the mystery?
>>43566470I too thought it was Earth's magnum opus when I first read it. That's only natural when you're retarded.
>>43566745So you were retarded when you first read it, but you're smarter now?
>>43566784Fuck no, I'm a regular on this board. Of course I'm still retarded!
>>43566784Truly, a timeline we should all strive for.
>>43566360Action Comics is canon in general: the Superman one with the sedan is one of the comics that Spike incinerated in one of those awful Pinkie episodes.
You know what would be a useful addition to the site? An ai assistant that helps you find fics with specific qualities that you can’t easily navigate to with tags and keywords and filters and such. Easy solution to the limitations of the current search features.
>>43567288Uh huh. And what's it going to use to search for that.
>>43567288that would require knighty to stop being a lazy nigger and address the scraper issue
>>43567291Anything fic with particular qualities that you can’t directly or easily find with the current search features.
>>43567309Right but how's it gonna find those.Try getting like, google's AI to summarize even just one fic for you beyond the description.
>>43566470Speaking of, have any foefags any been reading this?https://www.fimfiction.net/story/594148/fallout-equestria-into-the-nightI have it on my RL list and it's been updating steadily for the past month.
>>43567288I think you can use that right now woth either gemini or GPT's online search ability
>>43567288>>43567309I did that. It works as long as you can articulate what you're searching for; I got it to find untagged Tunafics and then stopped maintaining it because it did its job.https://github.com/luna-best/elastic-fimfarchive/blob/main/semantic%20search.mdUnless you're going to donate the GPU time, it's even more transparently a budget based non-starter than image hosting.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/595233/one-saturday-morningThis was better than I expected. My initial impression was that it would be exactly what I expected but that changed halfway through. It sadly felt a bit brief. It’s one of those short fics that feels like it could be expanded into a longfic.
>>43568396Hold onWait a secondThis is fucking The Outer Wilds.
>>43568406Oh yeahIt’s a bit of a tenuous connection but I think can see why you’d make the comparison.
>>43568450The sun is going supernova with a comet being responsible (at least you're led to think that way), while they use the same supernova to power a time loop device.
Fics where the Mane 6's parents are good parents?
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/151053/daring-dont-want3/10. Twilight's mom bitches about Daring Don't. One of those "flavor of the week" fics written just after an episode airs. Not a very good one. Just felt like the author's rant review blog post with a pair of horse ears stuck on top. The vulgarity threw it off for me big time.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/151260/the-daring-doers-quest-for-the-sovereign-crown5.7/10. Daring gives Twilight a book and her lore while she's at it. This one's pretty strange. It was evidently the prologue to a deadfic, so the author deleted the deadfic and just turned the prologue into a oneshot. It's okay, but really lacks purpose. Doesn't even really feel like a prologue, either.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/150918/daring-do-and-the-straining-constipation5.5/10. Daring takes a dump. Yes, that's it. That's the whole story. It's the first time doing this I said "What the fuck am I reading?" It was not a bait and switch comedy. I remain unsure if it was a fetish fic or not. Mythrilmoth was in the comments, so I'm inclined to think it was.>>43566470>I don't get why a lot of people on the board seem to hate itThe second I learned the "megaspells" are just regular ICBMs and not wispy energy nukes shot out of runes, any enthusiasm for reading it evaporated like Fluttershy's intelligence in the face of an eternal battlefield.
It's finally done.
>>43568777Checked. Must be a good story.
>>43568669https://www.fimfiction.net/story/33777/dictated-not-read>Twilight tells Celestia about a disappointing Hearth's Warming gift she received as a child.3k wordsThis isn't what you're looking for; it's not a feel-good story, nor is it the best depiction of Twilight's parents (who aren't directly in the story themselves, though it does revolve around them), but it's about parents who do love their daughter even if they didn't always get things exactly right. Really, it's one of the only fics I've cared to read concerning any of the M6's parents, and I just wanted an excuse to post it.>>43568777nice digits, and I guess the fic I linked agrees
>>43568777Nice job. Feels good to get a story done. Unrelated, but did you know gdocs has a word limit?
Bundle didn't get an extension, Gold, so either you send me what you have before I'm back from the gym later today or you're getting skipped.
>>43569003He's probably been mourning 10/7, have a heart.
>>43568826What's the limit?
>>43569574I don't know the precise limit, but gdocs started giving me a "can't sync your changes" error message when I tried going past around 270k words (a bit over 1.5 million characters and ~1,050 pages).Until then, I always thought the limit would be some astronomically high number, and in practice, the point where trying to load a giga-document would just give your browser a heart attack.
>>43569603That's why it's best practice to split longfics across multiple GDocs. My rule of thumb is one doc per chapter.
>>43569713I like using tabs for my chapters, but that works for me because I've never written anything longer than 100k.
>>43569713Yup. I ended up just splitting mine into quarters that still wound up being novel-length. Part of this is because I have quite a few fairly short chapters (1,100-2,200 words), and I didn't want to feel like Twilight with the stack of papers in S1E4 when trying to shuffle through 150+ individual docs.One drawback, though, is the doc will start to lag when it comes to making changes once it has a high number of comments. I'll definitely split up longer work more in future, though I have no plans to write anything 20k words or longer after spending so long on my behemoth of a project.
>>43569746That was my approach as well, before I learned about the aforementioned size limit and comment lag!
>>43569603Yeah it's not good at loading big long fics. It takes fucking forever on my chromebook.
>>43569003Bundle was also entirely incommunicado following signup. Pretending as though he wouldn't have gotten an extension if he'd only asked is entirely dishonest.>delivery now or SKIPSimmer down, cuQold: you're no Mussolini. You're not even writing; you're only in this loop because you were the first to jump at the chance of sliding into my dicksword DMs.My chapter will be delivered, even if I have to find a different liaison.
>>43569822Yeah, for sure. I actually ended up buying a new writing laptop recently, since my 9-year-old one was pretty much on life support. I went with a more traditional laptop over a Chromebook mainly for the versatility. I wound up getting a brand-new one for 50% off, so it felt similar to buying a laptop at regular price before clankers destroyed the market.
>>43569867Yeah, I got the Chromebook on clearance for around $100 and it took a bit to get used to but I only really use it for writing, so I've come to really like it.
>>43569894Oh, that's awesome. I mainly use LibreOffice to write first drafts, then gdocs for editing. My new laptop was deliberately lower-end, since I only need a word processor and a few browser tabs open at a time without it lagging or BSODing (which my old one was starting to do).
>using a text editor that lagsGet with the times. We're not in the land of the eight megabytes and constantly swapping.
>>43568777What it's about?
>>43569828>Simmer down, cuQold: you're no MussoliniI see a challenge to your authority. Are you really gonna let that slide? Or are you gonna show him who's boss?
>>43570280It’s a self insert Futa tranny mommy dommy hypnosis cuckhold fart fetish clop fic.
>>43570211>>using a text editorInadvisable.How many plugins deep do you have to be to make emacs show you a live word count? You know that's like oxygen itself, one of many reasons why word processors distinguish themselves as a software category.But GDocs is quite horrible, https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#office-suites
I have an idea for a fic where Twilight has to tell celestia something she doesn’t know, but within certain parameters. It can’t be a basic fact about a particular thing, and can’t be something she cannot verify for herself using the information she already possesses in her memory and logic, With the answer being something like “this pattern with these qualities happens over history and society for these reasons”. Something like that. How can I make this work and actually be interesting?
>>43570280Celestia suffering immensely.
>>43570361In that order?
>>43569828technically, i'm currently the one who decides if you get skipped or not now. i've already been sent the chapter that you were supposed to follow up on. while i haven't looked at it yet, and thus you still have a window to send your chapter in to avoid getting skipped, you have given no indication that you're close to done with your chapter, so i'll probably look at it and start working on my chapter tomorrow.
>>43570385Is that not the default state of Celestia?
>>43570393If you're not impersonating the second 0story rando, what's the second word of the chapter? Crack it open, if you've indeed got it.
>>43570400She can always suffer in new ways.
I think it's time for another one of these. Some of these dates I'm not 100% sure of, so correct me if I got something wrong:Zaid ValRoa, 21 June (8 days)Polychromatic, 26 June (5 days)Math Spook, 1 July (5 days)Kassaz, 16 July (15 days)BundledSticks, ejected on 5 August (21 days)alki, 27 August (22 days)Not That Anon, 15 September (20 days)Gold Meddle, ejected on 8 October (24 days)
>>43570424Need a fic where celestia goes daybreaker while pregnant only to realize she just roasted her baby like it was in a brazen bull and then aborts out a lump of charcoal.
>>43570433Is this why Luna is black?
>>43570433Jesus Christ, anon
>>43570382You probably can't because it's not in character for Celestia overly fixate on being unexceptionable, but one of the most straightforward ways to do this is for Twilight to start with a belief she knows Celestia falsely holds and show her how that belief is false.I'd expect it to be hard to work around the way of it being something that Celestia would just give to Twilight as a research project to check her own assumptions, though.
>>43570418more
>>43570429>>43570485Understood.https://rentry.co/6rpr5zrh
>>43570528>literally just posting not that anon's chapterare you trying to sabotage the corpse out of spite by getting future authors to read a chapter they weren't supposed to? i don't understand why else you would post this.
>>43570528You're banned from next time.
>>43570433Nah, that's just how kirin get made.
>>43570438Luna is the one with foal-killing habits. Barren moons and whatnot.
>>43570559The corpse was sabotaged the moment you let that italian ingrate handle chapter distribution.>>43570571I've been b& b4.
>>43570642>I've been b& b4.How are you liking it?
>>43570649I do quite like when my profiles are preserved this way. Like a mosquito in amber.
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/151020/daring-do-and-the-dance6.7/10. A nameless mook waxes about his love for Daring. This was the Georg one that has no mention of pregnancy or lovingly raising fillies in it, for that anon who cares about that. It was pretty good. One of the better "flavor of the week" post-episode oneshots so far. Does feel a tad short. I was expecting as the mook gradually buffs himself and becomes a bigger and bigger threat, that there'd be an actual long fight scene between him and Daring and he'd become like the secondary villain of one of the books, but everything wraps up before that happens.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/138706/the-lantern8/10. Daring and her mentor go on a dangerous adventure to retrieve an ancient lantern. This was another pretty good "serious" adventure oneshot. Had some nice drama, tension, and a good twist at the end that contextualizes things rather nicely, as all twists should. Only negative was the unnecessary swearing. Kind of kicked me out of the story a bit. This was also the one where Gardez got bullied by the readers into adding a "happy ending" coda because no one could understand the theme of the story.>end >review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/104412/daring-do-and-the-dark-walk-home6/10. Daring Do faces her most terrifying challenge yet: walking through the ghetto at night with a quarter million bits in her pocket. Hilarious premise and the funniest part is it's not even a comedy fic. It's dead straight. Well, it was until the ending anyway. That zigzag at the end into weird Tumblr ask blog comedy really hurt the story. Destroyed the whole "Daring is kind of an evil greedy bitch who might get what's coming to her" tone it had going on and knocked it down a full point.>>43569894>Chromebook on clearance for around $100If you get sick of it, check your local government surplus online auctions. If you live near a major college, they might even have their own dedicated auction site. You can usually snag a good ~5 year old business laptop for around $80. Might need to install the OS on it, though.
>>43570528Well, that was a fun read. I can see many things from my chapter and the previous one, but they've all been transformed. One thing from the previous chapter is still around, but its original purpose has been forgotten. A couple of things I set up seem to be important now. Another thing I set up has been lost completely. I think I'm going to enjoy reading the corpse whenever it's done.
>>43569828>Bundle was also entirely incommunicado following signupHe was not, privately, assuring me he'd get it done within the three week mark after the first two passed. Unlike you, who've ignored my messages for over a week and have now proceeded to nuke the conversation to the best of your ability.
>>43571069I very deliberately avoided making any promises I couldn't keep. I definitely didn't say I'd be done in three weeks, and I kept my DMs with you to a minimum precisely because I didn't want this to turn into xhe-said-he-said.And now look at you, taking it upon yourself to make the trains run on time. How noble.You sent NTA's chapter to someone who shouldn't have seen it. I merely completed your work.
>Expelled from 109 countries and one corpse
Here's the actual timeline of events so far. All times in UTC.>2026/06/21 21:50 Zaid sends me his chapter >2026/06/26 17:20 I send my chapter to Math>2026/07/01 03:56 Math sends me his chapter>2026/07/01 14:34 I send Math's chapter to Kassaz>2026/07/16 08:23 Kassaz sends me his chapter>2026/07/16 13:14 I send Kassaz's chapter to Bundle>2026/07/30 17:39 I tell Bundle it's been two weeks>2026/07/31 00:36 Bundle says he'll likely manage within Friday>2026/08/06 15:37 I tell Bundle I'd at least like proof he's been working on the chapter to decide what to do>Bundle has yet to actually read that message, though I assume he looked at the preview for it>2026/08/08 12:26 I send Kassaz's chapter to Alki>2026/08/19 13:34 I ask Alki how it's going, to which he replies>The same happens on the 22nd>2026/08/23 01:49 I remind him he's past the two week mark>2026/08/27 06:21 Alki sends me his chapter>2026/08/27 13:10 I send Alki's chapter to NTA>2026/09/11 18:04 I ask NTA if he thinks he'll be done by the three week mark, which he says he will>2026/09/14 23:24 NTA tells me the draft is finished but he'll be doing some editing before sending it>2026/09/15 20:18 NTA sends me his chapter>2026/09/16 04:39 I send NTA's chapter to Gold>2026/09/24 19:16 I ask Gold how the writing is going and he says well>2026/09/30 19:08 I ask Gold how things are going>He never replies>2026/10/08 09:52 I ask Gold what state the chapter is in>He never replies>I post in the thread too four minutes later>2026/10/08 16:52 I send NTA's chapter to Lacooda, with the caveat that they're free to wait further in case Gold does actually deliver>2026/10/08 18:46 Gold, evidently unaware that I am in fact the guy who's handling the whole thing and a participant in it, and choosing to pretend like he hasn't been less communicative than Bundle was, decides to be an ass in the thread instead of actually writing to me, which could well have gotten him an extension if he showed he had actually written something, which is why I'd asked him to send him what he had just as I did with Bundle>informed that someone else was already sent the previous chapter, but that they haven't looked at it yet and he does still in fact have a chance to send me something to prove he's written anything at all and get an extension, Gold decides to post NTA's chapter instead
>>43571167I hope the other people involved with the corpse down the line will at least have the decency not to look at NTA's chapter. As for Gold himself: it's literally not that fucking serious. If you're really going to make an ass of yourself in public and cut all conversation with me over the fact that you missed a deadline for a pony fanfic (after going silent about it and refusing to show any work when asked) you're a much less serious person than I assumed you to be. Trying to sabotage the whole thing is petty and childish, but not even something worth being particularly enthused over given the relative importance of the whole thing. You can still finish your chapter if you want and we'll add it as a bonus chapter at the end of the fic btw (same goes for Bundle, but I never had a chance to tell him given he stopped reading my messages).
>>43571126You sound less than half your age. We agreed on the two week time in the same forum post we signed up for the corpse in. I proceeded to give an extra week on top of that to anyone that happened to need it. I'd have been willing to give you more or talk things out had you come talk to me instead of bitching ITT.Also, you dumb bitch, guess whose idea it was to establish a deadline after which people should be dropped?
>>43571153I was thinking the same thing, kek. Don't forget the main website.>>43571168>I hope the other people involved with the corpse down the line will at least have the decency not to look at NTA's chapter.Eh, there was never anything stopping people from sending each other PMs to do this in the first place. It was always going by the honour code, really.
>>43571126Last corpse, I couldn't figure out why you took so long. But when it was all over, I saw what you were sent and thought, "Oh, that's why," and in my heart, I forgave you. But now, in a single post, you've made yourself look incompetent in two ways: You can't write, and you can't admit when you can't write. If you had just said, "I got writer's block," I'd forgive you again. Instead you tried to shit on the corpse. Even the CMCs would tell you that's a retarded plan. You're not a Jew, you're a yak.>>43571179You forget that some of us are too autistic to send PMs.
>>43570372You must be able to put count-words in the modeline.
>>43571812While holding your breath.
It's always the person you entirely suspect.
So is it completely impossible to get a Fimfiction account now?The discord messaging keeps throwing errors, the people responsible all have direct messaging turned off, and the website is otherwise locked down without an account.Is it truly over?
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/340853/love-or-twilight-learns-that-joy-wants-eternityI wanted to see if there was any point to reading this deadfic, if it was a SoL anthology or if it was driving in a particular direction before it ran out of gas.Well, it is the former, The Twilestia progresses only to kissing a bit more often, and barely matters before the fic falls into the void. They are closer, though, because the point of the story is to deliver more of what everyone wanted more of from the first.Courts! Celestia's was boring. It undergoes wild changes in this fic as Celestia invites Twilight to her own. Twilight and Celestia witness a lot of pretty scenery and lore. The song-well of Jannah, only mentioned in all of the other stories in the group is finally described here. What do all the revelations mean? I said before that there's nothing behind the curtain for deadfics, and this seems to be an exemplary case of that. It was all too big, so, nothing, in the end. Well, technically, the end is an unrelated short story about how stupid Rainbow Dash is. It absolutely does not bear reading.Speaking of unrelated short stories, the Letters chapters are also narratively disconnected correspondence in which Twilight berates Rarity over her spinsterhood. The prose in these, especially Rarity's segments, is fantastic. You ought to read just those chapters for the entertainment value. I think the end goal here is Rarijack, but it didn't get there.Luna is pretty great here, there are several good interactions between her, Celestia and Twilight, and she has a bunch of fun lines>Where went that burnt out bitch, and from what gardened heaven did you walk out of, and shall I call you the Sun?It is a shame that her own court still does not show up again. This is also the only one of the collection that doesn't reintroduce or even mention the Cynewulf's favorite word: symposium. Is that because it's nearly impossible to get here except through a story that does, or because it didn't run long enough?Unlike most deadfics, I don't regret reading it, the story is carried by the letters, and by Luna's bestness.
>>43575550So it seems. So it seems.
>>43575550the like three new people a day that could have joined would not be producing much of quality anyways.
>>43575550At least four people made an account today,https://www.fimfiction.net/search/users?q=Maybe you're just stupider than all of them? You can ask for advice in the main channels.
>In a live-action neighborhoodDo you think all the real horses live in some ghetto on the other side of Ponyville because they aren't pretty pastel ponies?>>43575550common issue. The error can pop up when it's *your* settings that disallow messages with people not on your friends list, but the error message was written assuming it would only happen the other way around and so doesn't point you to the actual solution.
>>43575602>in a live-action neighborhood Holy fucking shit
>>43575566>reading a deadfic
>>43570618Fanfic?
>>43575743I rolled some dice.
>>43575773Fair enough. I have started reading fics even though I can just tell from a glance that it’s never going to be finished.
>>43563987you fags are useless, I found it myselfhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/6735/equestrias-twilight
>>43576655What makes you think any of us cared enough to try?
>>43576742When I make a request I expect everypony here to hop on it.
Is there a single good body/mind swap fic? The one in the sin bin made me dislike it for how archetypically trite it is.
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/109283/fantasy-reality-and-the-authors-affinity3/10. Twilight and Dash go to an auction to bid on the first Daring Do book. This one was rough. Classic amateurish feel and structure. Really fast pace. Ending that doesn't make sense. Not a good story. You can also add Dash's dad to the list of Daring authors.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/134397/indigos-secret2/10. Daring and an OC visit ruins to unlock the secrets of a dark magic book. This is the one that inspired my own Daring horror fic I'm writing. It was another stinker. Same amateurish tone and grammar issues plagued the whole thing. It was interesting, at least. I've never read a "badly written" dark/horror fic before. The plot's pretty dark and horrorish, too, but it just cannot overcome the bad writing.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/78460/the-true-villain5.5/10. Scootaloo and her mom deal with her abusive dad. Scootabuse, in this economy? I was shocked to see it in a Daring fic, but these were the wild west days of early 2013 where everyone and their mother was Daring's author. The domestic violence was almost comedy-tier in how over-the-top it was but maybe that's just the Scootabuse genre in a nutshell.>>43571167Every day my decision to bow out for this corpse is looking better and better.>>43575743>last online: TuesdayThere's still hope, anon.
I'm proud of myself for nearly finishing this story after not quite a year, so here:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/584570/4/chaotic-cravings/a-craving-for-climax>>43577427>Every day my decision to bow out for this corpse is looking better and better.It's a corpse, don't take it so seriously.
>>43577427>but maybe that's just the Scootabuse genre in a nutshell.Now I'm wondering there are fics with realistic lower key depictions of child abuse.
>>43579336Anything that incorporates her parents from season 9.
>>43579336https://www.fimfiction.net/story/440533/if-you-tell
>>43579336Pirene has some memorable scenes in which Leit Motif recounts being drilled in the performance of a magic technique where she's required to manifest a clock tower with all of its moving parts, a task that is mostly just pointlessly difficult.
>>43579525Is pirene worth reading?
>>43579573Yes, for many years it was the only good HiE. It has a bad start, but it's good once they get to Equestria.
>>43579392Why did Hasbro decide to canonize scootabuse?
Oh god I just realized this sequel to the One that Got Away is in the same universe as Traveling Tutor. Green Grass just appeared.
>>43579695Holy shit...I had to do 16 captchas and verify my email for this, wtf
>>43579695Pretty much all his fics do.
>>43579901>spoilerfirst time?
>>43579901Are you on shared internet? Phoneposting? How do you look like so indistinguishable from a bot?
>>43580103you should consider yourself lucky if you've never been hit with a fake rangeban.
>>43579993yup>>43580103idk, my last post was club related I think, I saw the same message on a shitpost on a different board so I didn't think much of it and didn't care to try harder to post. I did move recently, but I've been posting here no problem up till this point
>>43580191it's a fake rangeban. it has nothing to do with your posting and there's nothing you can do about it other than verifying your email. also it never goes away.
>>43580245>it has nothing to do with your postingwew, very cool mechanic
>>43579679Because it's fucking funny.
>>43581480Cool nyx pic
>>43581501It is a cool pic, yeah
The author of rune scribe is one word off.
>>43581756Write him a very concerned letter.
>>43581756laugh in his face.
>>43581756Jesus, I hope he's okay. I'll be keeping him in my thoughts and prayers.
>>43581756Out of morbid curiosity, I took a look. Honestly? It was 4/5ths a first draft, and 1/5th an outline in present tense riddled with errors. I'm wondering if it'll ever conclude, or if the author's trying to take SAPR's crown for longest story on Fimfiction.
>>43581835It's the same as all the other chapters. There's like 100 words of action and the rest is padding.It was pointed out in >>43405134 that March 30, 2027, will be A Quiet Rune Scribe's last day. The sequel will start March 31.
>>43581944I guess I'll just wonder how it built and maintains its audience. The link in your post is dead, but time will tell either way.
>>43581961desuarchive.org
>>43581961>not having 4ChanX installed
>>43581986
>>43581961It's HiE slop that is always featured.
>>43582084 (me)*HIE Kino
>>43582027
>>43582088Slop.
>>43581986>>43581971I guess I've learned something about two websites today. This thread is the only one I've been active in, ever, even though I first lurked on this corner of the internet in 2008 or 2009.>>43582084I know what the fic is, I'm just a bit surprised at its notoriety relative to its quality. I try to avoid being negative about somebody else's work in general, but in this case, there's very clear systemic quality issues. Big difference between that and something competently written that happens to be about something I don't like, know what I mean?
>Someone picked up on the bits of foreshadowing I put in my story>even the very autistic onesThis makes Anon the happy Anon
>>43577427It's coming along better than the first one imo, though granted we have not yet reached the guy who fucked the plot last time.
>>43580245>also it never goes awayNah. I routinely get it on my tablet and it goes away after a few days.
>>43582388You could have been in the FliFla stream.
>>43582474>FliFla streamDo I want to know what that is?
>>43582511You can put anime into the search bar after that word to see it's some forgotten pedophilic fanservice slop.
>>43582388Congrats, you understand how to use a literary tool. I'm not even being condescending, it's easy to fuck up apparently.
>>43582556>forgotten pedophilic fanservice slopThat's a really weird take, but your complete and terminal retardation is well known at this point. I suppose the existence of anything more openly yuri than FiM must deeply upset you in that it makes it harder for you to pretend canon gives your ships any serious support.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfXpk0l9flE
>>43582636Why would you act like I support any yuri, regardless of its problems? When have I universally supported F/F ships, in FiM or in any other media? Are you as retarded as you're projecting me to be?I'm deriding it for being like basically every other Japanese fanservice slop of the 2010s, forcing panty shots, nudity, etc, except that for yours it's also of middle school girls. Fuck off with your garbage.
Threadly reminder that if you reply to the tunafag, you deserve everything coming your way.
>tfw instead of writing you read a schizofic by Miro MM>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/69049/daring-do-vs-quicksand6.8/10. Daring braves a horrifying pit of quicksand to get the treasure. Another entry in the Filly Do genre. This one's a lot better than the cookie one, since it actually makes an effort to hide the premise and provide a good "imagination" reveal of what's really going on.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/96137/an-empty-place5.5/10. Daring Do explores a mysterious ruin. This is another entry in the "SoL, but the author picked a bad SoL plot, so it's just boring" genre. Needed to be a normal adventure or some kind of comfy university archeological dig. Instead, it just dragged on, seemingly far longer than its 1.2k word count.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/59331/a-hero-for-daring-do2/10. Twilight botches a spell and teleports book Daring to Ponyville, then Daring and Dash have sex. This was another stinker. The grammar. The writing. The pacing. Lord, the pacing. Haven't seen it that fast in a while. Daring goes from having an existential crisis about being fictional to getting eaten out in literally 600 words (I checked). Really bad. Do not read unless you like trash.>>43579901Don't worry. It only takes a month of daily posting to get back to the single captcha.>>43581835Fimfic has a hard 1,000 chapter limit on stories so it will technically end then. I assume he'll just do a My Little Pokemon and the sequel will start as chapter 1,001.
>>43583535>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/59331/a-hero-for-daring-doGood lord. I couldn't make it beyond the sixth paragraph. The first sentence is a prime of why the "lavender unicorn" thing is bad.
>>43582747Have you ever considered watching something before forming an opinion on it, or is that simply something you're incapable of?
Straying close to the mythical red arrow of displeasure, in>/FSBC/I'm just joking; the fic is still *fiiine*; I'd never downvote something like this. But I haven't finished it yet, which is the first time this has happened to me in... well, quite a few months! Now, mind you, the currently ongoing anni is definitely to be blamed for this, buuuut I also didn't read the fic before the anni, you know?Again, I have to insist that it's not awful. It really is just fine. Like a 5/10, I think, all things considered. I will almost certainly finish it this week or the next (when the anni is done). But what I did manage to read this week didn't manage to hook me at all, either. It's a fun read in the moment, though without any staying power or outstanding qualities that would make me want to come back.So I will be cutting this post a bit short, both because I didn't actually finish it and because spending any more time reposting my opinions from the two weeks before this one is very much a waste of time for everyone involved.The next fic is Of the Hive, divided in the middle like this:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/133544/of-the-hive>week 1: Chapter 1 to Chapter 6.>week 2: Chapter 7 to Epilogue.And because I have some extra room in this post, I'll also add that the fic AFTER Of the Hive will be Clean Slate, divided into three weeks.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/71009/clean-slate>week 1: Chapters 1-9>week 2: Chapters 10-17>week 3: Chapters 23-Epilogue
>>43585158Aw, we're not reading anything spooky for Halloween?
>>43585391Oh shoot, I forgot! Obviously we should do that instead. I blame anni brain and stuff. Clean Slate gets booped down the queue, then, and the question remains if we want to have the spooky club in 2 weeks or 3. If the former, we'll need a 1-week replacement fic as well, but I'm sure that can be arranged.
>>43583535>Fimfic has a hard 1,000 chapter limitI've been around for quite a while and only learned this yesterday.
That was okay, I guess. Large amount of sex aside it was still fairly pony. Though the highlight for me was all the kids ignoring Celestia to fawn over Luna. Funny that I finished it and Lazy River at the same time, which kinda has the same problem and also had the princesses being the best characters.God help me, I'll go through the two sequels and report back.
>>43585476Also I think if I had to give an issue with this it's that it wanting to stick to its genre hurt it. The elements are there to be good, the prose is fine, the character fits in every archetype that he needs to, but the whole romcom comedy of errors thing doesn't work. He and Twilight are neurotic sure but they're also not dumb, all the misunderstandings would clear up way faster than they should, particularly since halfway through they start fucking in earnest anyway. So it's already a meandering slice of life by the end. Just start with that, or hook them up sooner, and it'd be less annoying.
>>43585434It also breaks after 160 bookshelves.
>>43584921I have considered it, but I can also combine personal experience with reviews to determine if it's a waste of time. That's why reviews exist, of course.I used to watch shows with friends, stuff like Hunter x Hunter and FMA:B. A new title picked up steam on Netflix, Magi, it seemed neat. We were entirely unprepared for how often it would shove a camera into some girl's crotch for no reason. It had that voyeuristic exploitation at the beginning of Kemono Friends too, again for no reason. We ended up going to Wakfu and Over the Garden Wall after that, and didn't look back.So when,>there are scatterings of fanservice that feel entirely out of place in the overall narrative.I initially expected to toss it into the trash because that entire decade is a black hole for anime. I didn't start watching new shows again until 2020, after all.But then,>Flip Flappers sells itself on the fetishization of middle school girlsIt became obvious why the original post was coy about the name. What's absurd is that you're still trying to sell it.
>>43585902>We ended up going to WakfuBefore or after watching Zone-tan's content?
>>43585902>It became obvious why the original post was coy about the name.that's just hoe japs (and consequently, weebs) abbreviate things.
>>43585902>quoting someone else instead of judging with your own eyesAs expected. Let it be known the tunafag is such a repressed pedo himself he sees pic related as sexually attractive.>It became obvious why the original post was coy about the nameIf you had actually bothered doing any proper research at all, or just watching a single episode, you'd have found out FliFla Project is the name the group handling production of the series went by. See https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%95%E3%83%AA%E3%83%83%E3%83%97%E3%83%95%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%83%91%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA
>>43585902>I didn't start watching new shows again until 2020, after all>missing out on SymphogearYou'd probably hate that one too because apparently girls make you uncomfortable. Anyway, what have you watched since or recently?>>43585511Someone ITT once figured out the max amount of characters in a chapter too (it's actually a filesize limit IIRC so different characters weigh differently).
>>43587281>SymphogearWasn't that the one that had a really good card game spinoff anime?
>>43587207>he sees pic related as sexually attractiveDon't you? Look at her showing off her body like that. Unf. Wearing nothing but those Vinyl-style glasses. Double unf. You couldn't broadcast this.
>>43587207>flip flappersthat anime was pretty good but it had some bad vibes.
Any good EG horror fanfics? I’ve read Hey, Twi! and a few others, but I’m craving more Equestria Girls horror for Halloween!
>>43587473Aren't they all horror in the way that they are? As you read them, aren't you filled with dread of what it would be like to be trapped in a high school dimension, forever unchanging? Worse, to be compressed into a shape that would be instantly lethal, but yet these characters endure it, even persist?>goodwhoops
>>43585158>Of the HiveWhoever's still in the club, you guys are in for a ride with this one. I just finished it and will be comparing the first half with Integration a lot. Integration is not nearly as ridiculous, and it's also far better written as a story. I'd suggest reading and comparing chapter 1 of both stories against each other, I think that different circumstances, it would be enough to dump one in favor of the other, but it doesn't really matter at this point.To adoption-anon, though, if you were to read this story, you would get quite a kick out of the second week.
>>43587473Not really Horror so much as like, Horror-themed, but Principal Celestia Hunts The Undead is good, clean fun.
>>43587473>>43587510>>43587803What do you think about this?https://youtu.be/TIsWng5E3mc?si=HaYcrg5btiOlrKXS
>>43587831I think it's extremely gauche to post links with tracking parameters.
>>435878814chan X automatically sanitizes those, you whiny faggot.
>>43558043all tomorrows
I think that MLP fan fiction produces better works on average than any other fan fiction community. But did we produce better professional writers when people left us?
>>43585400nominating thishttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/591987/popular-fun-gameas a one weeker so we can finish a spooky two weeker only shortly after halloween instead of significantly after.
>>43588038>But did we produce better professional writers when people left us?That honor seems to be for Homestuck.
>>43581961Regular updates and the featurebox.
>>43588038It helps a lot that MLP has more monkeys typing on more typewriters than most fan bases.
>>41473309>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/391662/a-place-among-her-kindA cute story about Fizzle raising a militia to serve as Twilight's captain of the guard. Very closely tied to the show, integrating Fizzle's role with the EUP and ponyville weather patrol, as well as making the militia a bunch of named background ponies from Ponyvlle. None of them actually matter, it's only a story about Fizzle proving to herself that she deserves the second chance she was given.It's just cute and nothing else, though. I was hoping for more. There's only the barest sliver of conflict in this story, at the end, provided by Fizzle's foalhood friends. The author doesn't seem to be able to write in Tempest's voice, which makes the story feel empty. Her actions line up, but it makes it feel like this story about her doesn't have her in it. This isn't a problem with the other characters, especially Starlight. I also kinda expect more from Tempest than assembling a completely appropriate royal guard militia for Ponyville for Twilight.I liked the spellcasting prosthetic they gave her, though. It's weird and new, I've never seen anything mechanically like it at all, but it simultaneously seems to fit perfectly.I also did not like her old horn fragment being returned to her. It's grisly, and thematically inappropriate.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/570507/the-pony-who-bucked-rainbow-dashs-dadHuh. Never knew you could just delete the only chapter and still leave the shell of the story up. That's interesting.>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/67673/when-the-levee-breaks7/10. Daring returns to her hometown to visit her dying father. From the second sentence in, you know what kind of fic this is going to be. That sort of pretentious sad-toned narrator thing to tug at the heartstrings while he waxes philosophically. If you're in the mood for a full sadfic, it does it's job, but if not, it feels kind of performative. I wasn't a big fan of Daring actually being a southern belle who hides her accent. Felt like the author was just forcing her into the OC role for his deep south "returning to the farm" fic. Couldn't even be bothered to set it in Equestria proper, either, and had to do "muh chaos magic makes the weather do its own thing".>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/70907/treasure6/10. Dash and Twilight go on an adventure in the ruins of the Castle of the Pony Sisters. Despite the tag, Daring's technically not in this, as all her scenes are just excerpts from one of her books. The plot--the Daring book is based off the castle and Twilight and Dash need to use it to navigate the traps--feels underused and what is used could probably use a bit of polish. Overall, it's not terrible and the Twidash interactions are nice, but it could be better. Oh, and Luna's Daring's author. First time I've seen that. For the record, so far I've seen: Scootaloo's mom, Dash's dad, Twilight's mom, and now Luna.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/33088/daring-do-and-the-pyre-of-peril7/10. Daring goes on a Livingstone-esque adventure to rescue a professor studying ancient pony tribes. This one fits comfortably in the lighthearted adventure oneshot genre. There's a few hints of its spot in the pre-Daring Don't "wild west", especially with Daring's extroverted personality, but overall it's a very nice take on the lighthearted adventure genre. It's good adventure, some decent (though certainly not gutbusting) comedy, and a surprisingly comfy ending that really tied things up nicely.>>43587473https://www.fimfiction.net/story/222775/the-last-something-sweet-to-biteThird fic in a shitty slasher series. Also directly responsible for killing the schizo club, if I remember right, so it has an actual body count.>>43590481>Fizzle as Twilight's Captain of the GuardFor a second, I thought this was that one where the hippogriffs try to kidnap Twilight, a foreign head of state, to execute her and then go "lol it was actually just going to be a mock execution."
>>43590625>Never knew you could just delete the only chapter and still leave the shell of the story upIt's still on Foalfetch: https://foalfetch.net/story/570507
>>43590625>Also directly responsible for killing the schizo clubI could've sworn that was Austraeoh. That may have been the final nail in the coffin, though.
>>43585158>>43585391>>43585476>>43588127Okay, how about this: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/72930/absolutionI'm waiting for any anon's opinions (among those who want to participate), until tonight but having this be THIS week's fic so that we can decide on the rest of the spooky next time should be good.As for the fic, it should be at least written decently given the author's last fic that we've read.>>43587697These two voted-on fics aren't going anywhere, but there really is no better time to go for spooky than now.Also, sweet Celestia, the amount of captcha you have to do to phonepost (w/ email verification) is insane. And I'm very dumb so I had to do it twice.
>>43590625>Also directly responsible for killing the schizo club,Nah, OP simply had personal things going on that made leading the club infeasible. And then he was too busy to restart.I still have week1 of the Umineko fic prepared as my club message, for when he comes back. And if he doesn't, I'll steal the fic for the main club in time for the secreter's club next deathanniversary.>>43590663East Horse has decent turnover IIRC, though some people dropped it.
>>43591098>Umineko fic
>>43585400>Oh shoot, I forgot!I will STILL SHILL STILL so that I can spend 2000 characters ranting about it later:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/570862/still
>>43591557I'm disappointed that it's not about Applejack operating an illegal distillery.
>>43591868Be the change you want to see in the fanfiction world.
For Anon in Equestria stories where it catalogues the arrival of the human into Equestria, does there have to be an element of mistrust/awe/suspicion around the new featherless biped?
>>43592194>Asking an AIE question hereBrave.
>>43592207I mean I've read a handful of AIE stories on Fimfiction, and I think every single one of them contains that element of surprise when Anon shows up.
>>43592194they freaked the fuck out when a zigger walked into town. how do you think a great big ape will be received?
>>43592313I mean if we're taking Creaturequestria as canon, he'd hardly be the most interesting or weirdest thing around
>>43592232I regret reading almost all of the AIE I have read. Most of it was not good.
>>43592313They were cool with Gilda and Iron Will. Maybe it was the zigga's fault and she shouldn't have been capped while speaking Mambo Jambo?
>>43592345This isn't exactly an AIE story, but I really enjoyed this one. I'm thinking about writing a story inspired by this:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/557167/fallout-new-vegas-a-new-road
>>43592414>New VegasThe Legion did nothing wrong btw
>>43592194I guess that for anypony who can't vaporize him on sight, reporting him to the nearest royal guard element for disposal counts as displaying an element of distrust. But that level of preparedness doesn't indicate surprise.
>>43592342In my experience AiE falls into two categories>nopony has magic, story isn't set in Equestria>Anon is a bigger mary sue than an alicorn, author doesn't like poniesEspecially in a post EqG environment these categories seem to be all-consuming, for what are mostly obvious reasons>>43592194AiE stories have no canon or consistency because there's no common corpus, but if you use G1 as apocrypha then sufficiently nerdy horses should get excited and old horses should be blasé. Regular residents care almost entirely about behavior though so how it would be purely a function of how anon acts.
>>43591083>These two voted-on fics aren't going anywhereIn theory, the ones who voted for Of the Hive could actually compare it to Integration and decide which one they would rather read. They are very similar, but not the same, so there is a case for reading both. It's weird because I didn't think Integration was good enough to directly recommend to the club, while Of the Hive is is a significantly less well crafted story even than that.The club votes have been on such a terrible streak, lately. The next fic on my RiL was another Tempest guard fic, likely the same one mutli-reply-anon was referring to, but it is incomplete so I started reading Crisis on Two Equestrias instead. The first few chapter have been fantastic, and it's a real shame it lost the vote.
>>43592194Fuck no, that shit gets old. Set it in the future or just go HiE where humans aren't a novelty because having to write a new "what the fuck are you" conversation every time your protag meets someone new will drive with you and your audience mad. It's been done a million times already, you're not going to do it in any way that's actually engaging at this point, just skip that shit and get to the meat of your story.
>>43593049>The club votes have been on such a terrible streak, lately.I like when some dogshit gets a bunch of votes and then barely anyone even shows up kek
>>43591557seconding.
>>43593151I can't tell if they're affirmative action votes ("spike deserves some spotlight", "this old RCL fic was forgotten ;_; completionism") or if their taste is actually just that bad.Spike only deserves to be forgotten, and the whole club already decided to skip the Traveling Tutor more than a year ago.
>>43593234>and the whole club already decided to skip the Traveling Tutor more than a year agoThis is what we get for second guessing ourselvesI don't think I've ever seen the dice captcha where the correct choice isn't just the highest number
>>43585502Back from the sequel. In this one, Green Grass babysits a griffon princess while everyone expresses surprise that Twilight isn't pregnant (because every single wedding of House Spankle has been a shotgun wedding). Twilight's mom was just pregnant and has twin infant foals that interact with the griffon princess.At the end, Twilight gets pregnant. I'm beginning to see a pattern here. Was better paced than the first, even if it kind of meanders (but it's slice of life so whatever), I maintain my opinion that this is far better when it's not the will-they/won't-they stuff. Will read the sequel where Twilight is actually pregnant now.
>>43593049>The club votes have been on such a terrible streak, lately.Our track record pre-Traveling Tutor was fine thoughbeit.I checked the archive and realized I forgot to vote for Sun and Hearth and The First Time You See Her last time in my write-up. Oops. I wonder if the Daring Do guy has read The Last Pyramid yet.
>>43593346>In this one, Green Grass babysits a griffon princessof course he does
Is there like a term for like, an orphan that would have been left at a convent or nunnery and raised by them, most likely to become a nun herself?
>>43593480I don't even know what that's supposed to mean
If I get better at edging, I might have to stop reading fimfiction.
>>43593498He's the chosen one, put on the world to get Twilight pregnant and babysit princesses and no one can deny that fate
>>43593536I feel like if you're already fucking Twilight/are her babydaddy then being randomly asked to babysit a princess is probably going to follow. It'd be like complaining that he meets Celestia or her brother.
>>43593493You can put that into Google and it will say oblate.
>>43593630>Oblates are individuals, either laity or clergy, normally living in general society, who, while not professed monks or nuns, have individually joined themselves to a Benedictine monastic community associated with a certain Christian denomination, such as the Catholic Church or Lutheran Church.[1] Individuals become oblates by undergoing an investiture in which they resolve to follow the Rule of Saint Benedict in their private lives. No, doesn't seem quite right...
>>43593650A child oblate is pretty consistently described as one that was abandoned (they seem to prefer to use the term "donated") by thair parents to basically become the property of the church. The context seems to mostly assume the child is male, though. I don't think there's a nun coded variant.
>>43593536>babysit princessesBy that logic any favored babysitter of a princess is the chosen one.
>>43593493https://www.onelook.com/thesaurus/?s=orphanhttps://www.onelook.com/thesaurus/?s=nunIt's probably listed here somewhere.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/595373/1/the-fall-of-sunset-shimmer/the-fallWell, at least it's not AI generated.
>>43595332I would never make fun of a new writer finding their footing and putting themselves out there.That said I have an impressive record of zero Sunset Shimmer stories read and I plan on keeping it that way.
>>43595350I will when it's that. It's not a baby taking their first steps, it's a grown ass man who doesn't understand punctuation.
>>43595362>it's a grown ass man who doesn't understand punctuation.Forgive me but I automatically assumed the author was under the age of 18 based on the description and the author's note and the profile pic.
>>43595379This exact style of writing is 25 year old deviantart fetishist writing territory. You could be this man's king if you were into the same shit he was and wrote halfway decent about it.
>>43592194Imagine a talking mare walks into your town. Shit's gonna get wild, and it's not gonna calm down until everyone has fucked her in every hole.
>>43595393It's worse than I thought...this is beyond amateurish...I've seen enough...still not breaking my...zero Sunset Shimmer stories read record...>You could be this man's king if you were into the same shit he was and wrote halfway decent about it.I still need to have some standards.
>>43595543>I still need to have some standards.We both know you don't. You just have little platitudes you tell yourself to feel better.
>>43592194I would say yes to some degree. Some degree of apprehension, a bit of fear, a bit of curiosity, ending in relative understanding.
>>43595554tomayto, tomahto
>>43595543I like her cause she's an angry fuckup.
>>43592194The jimmy two shoes of the cast literally went "get that zigger out of this town", so yes.
>>43591083>>43585158>>43591557>>43593211Oh right, then Still it is!https://www.fimfiction.net/story/570862/stillThe entire thing for this week, and we'll vote on the next couple spooky fics at the next bookclub.
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/40671/a-daring-dilemma5.5/10. Daring visits her sister, Dash, for the first time in fourteen years. This one was utterly bizarre. I just couldn't get into it. The author tries to force it into canon, but there's just no way it fits Dash's reactions in Read It and Weep. Just absolutely no way she goes from that episode to beating the shit out of Daring on first seeing her. First time in a long time canon completely kicked me out of a story. If you ignore that, it's an okay story. Dash seems to really overreact, but the family drama stuff is still nice. It just doesn't sync with Read It and Weep at all.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/35943/the-most-valuable-treasure6.5/10. While recovering from an injury, Daring recounts her backstory to her adventuring companion. A better summary would be "everyone in Daring's life acts retarded." Her mom's stupid for thinking that a filly with an adventure cutie mark shouldn't fulfill her special talent. Her companion's stupid for carrying a secret that will obviously damage his relationship with her. And her dad's the biggest idiot of them all for effectively abandoning her and never reuniting. It's a fic precipitated on characters utterly failing at the most basics of familial relationships in order to drive the family drama. It's not terrible, but damn is the drama poorly structured.>end>>43592194There usually is, to the point where it's up there with "lives in the Everfree", "Fluttershy finds him", and "humans have magical resistance/immunity" in the cliche ranking.
>>43596983How's progress on that reading list?Would you say there are still enough Daring Do stories out there for you to get that itch scratched?
>>43587333No, it's the mechamusu pseudo mahou shoujo one that's maybe the best thing ever created.
>>43587339The rabbit is male.
>>43587510Tuna was bullied in high school confirmed.
>>43590625>Also directly responsible for killing the schizo clubWrong.
>>43591098Ojou sex.
>>43593252>spoilerCorrect. Once you have experience you can complete 90% of the mid level Captchas with just the first two. For example in the stars ones it's always the star with the most points.
>>43598440Anon peaked in high school confirmed.
>>43557272After the difference in tags was pointed out to me, I actually started enjoying GTG more. I think it was just a mismatch of expectations. I thought it'd be an adventure and I kept waiting for things to happen; upon realising it was actually fully intended to be slice of life, I started to read it like one, and stopped expecting or trying to wait for the plot points to resolve themselves or go somewhere in some coherent sequence.As a SoL it's actually not that bad. There's enough stuff happening to keep it interesting, and there's a few plot threads being pulled on which make the life that's being sliced feel dynamic enough. And treating it like a SoL (dark) comedy makes some of the more absurd or less grounded stuff that gets brushed away feel a lot less jarring.But moreover, this has also made me rethink ITCON. I mentioned in my complaint (>>43557070) that I felt similarly about ITCON, and having shifted my expectations about GTG I think the same would've helped there, too. It's really meant to be read as a slice of life, where a big plot (tm) happens in the background but the actual narrative is just the daily life and times of the Company ponies.I still count that against it because ITCON is not in fact tagged SoL, but rather claims to be an Adventure, and so fully deserves to be harshly judged like the aimless and meandering adventure that it is. But if it were retagged properly, I think it wouldn't be a bad SoL story. I remember arguing with tunafag about it a couple months ago, where he said shit like the diary format, the PoV character shifting, and some characters falling away into irrelevancy made it feel "real", while I was saying it made the plot threads feel aimless. If you treat it as a SoL, where things just happen and you're supposed to enjoy the moment, all those things become a lot more forgivable: for a while the slice-of-life involved the doctor's apprentice whose name I forgot, and then life went on, the focus shifted and she became a background character. All fine for an episodic SoL. Same for the overall narrative structure - there's a bunch of episodes about clearing that first area with the rebellion, then a bunch more episodic vignettes about the ghoul infestation, then it goes into the imperial army arc, then the whatever the fuck white rose rebellion arc... It's all kinda disjointed but it makes sense as an evolving SoL.Nor does every event in a SoL have to have a narrative significant for later, so chapters about some military action or other that ultimately has zero consequence five chapters later make sense if you treat it all as a SoL where the point of each chapter is to enjoy the moment, not to progress "the main plotline" such as it is.And in this sense I do think I prefer GTG, because it seems to have been intentionally written as a SoL and is quite nice at it, while ITCON appears to have been an actual attempt at adventure that succumbed to Mitch having this kind of style, and suffers for it.
>>43599860Roggentochter, and I still disagree. ITCON is an adventure where the immediate plot is informed much more by what happened before it than what will happen in its future.I think you'll have a lot of fun with The Princess's Bit, though. It's an impressive blend of the two styles and has another rockin' ending.
>>43600006Oh yeah, Rye.And yeah no,>the immediate plot is informed much more by what happened before it than what will happen in its futuremakes no sense. First of all that's how everything works - you do things as a natural consequence of the situation you're in, which is a result of your previous actions. Secondly most of my issues are specifically about how things that happen before end up inconsequential in the future. Rye Daughter being built up as a direct assistant to the MC is gradually dropped and she fades into secondariness. The Spirit of the Pike Staff being revealed is kind of glossed over by everyone and they go ghoul hunting, etc. etc.In my view the immediate plot is informed directly by whatever the boring mundane paths of the daily life of a mercenary company require, aka slice of life style. They go ghoul hunting, not because what happened before naturally flows into that plot, nor because it will have major implications for the plot in the future; but simply because the daily life of the Company, at that point, involved clearing more territory for their attempt at politicking.That attempt itself was largely inconsequential, as the only thing the Bride's appearance in person did was establish the contacts that eventually led to them joining up with the Imperial Army, and set up the fact that she met Sawbones once thus adding some very vague setup for the ending confrontation far far in the future. It's also followed by another bunch of chapters of life in Dance Hall with the imperial engineers fixing shit or whatever before they eventually move out.As an adventure this is glacial, most of the shit is inconsequential, and is not informed neither by what came before nor what came after. As slice-of-life, it makes perfect sense: it's all a relatively logical course of action for life in the Company. You're supposed to enjoy the chapters of daily life in the Hall not because they're building towards more plot, but just because you're supposed to enjoy the SoL interactions and vignettes of shit happening.And so on and so forth, I can make the argument about almost anything. Like how Mrs. Cakes arrival does practically fucking zilch to serve the plot, or inform anything else, and itself is in no way informed by "what came before". Her only significant contribution is the contact with Equestria at the very end; everything else is absolutely inconsequential, even her minor involvement in whatever fucking petty logistics they do while attached to the army.But what she does is add an extra character to follow around for SoL antics. You're supposed to enjoy the chapters of her getting used to life in the Company, baking shit for the mercs, and generally nosying around just for the moment of it, not because it's part of any sort of wider plot or will be of much (or any) relevance in the future.
What's it like to go back to normal books?
>>43600185The lack of hooves makes it weird, but it's doable.
>>43600185You wonder when Nyx is gonna show up
>>43599352Yeah I did. I miss high school.
>>43600185It's hard to return to fics after that. The writing quality difference is quite large.
>>43600766I sure as fuck don't.>>43600787Yeah, real literature out there.
>>43600787Yes and no, but mostly no. On one hand, if you're reading straight out of the sinbin, then yes, everything non-pony will look like a pinnacle of the writing craft. In addition to that, the sheer vastness of content lets you curate your book experience to select only the stuff you know is worth reading, which can dazzle you with good writing.But that's only because there are a lot more non-pony books out there. The better ponyfics absolutely match and outclass not just the average "real" book but the bestsellers as well. The widest group of readers enjoys reading garbage, and that is consistent both in fics and non-fics.
>>43601262>The better ponyfics absolutely match and outclass not just the average "real" book but the bestsellers as well.No. You're delusional.
>>43601290You just have no idea how bad most bestsellers are
>>43601297Harlequin romance novels and the random paperbacks sold at train stations are unironically a higher tier than anything on Fimfiction.
>>43601335The only reason you think that is because you can't form an opinion other than one that's contrary to what's in front of you.
>>43601335Certainly better than the vast majority of fimfictionBut they're also better than most bestsellers so I don't really see your point
A'ight, people. Wrap it up. We've peaked already. See you in the next thread.
>>43601385This is such a perfect example of projection it approaches a platonic form. An archetype. It must be used as an example of the phenomenon for those studying psychology for all time.
>>4360133590% of fimfiction? I’d agree. ALL of fimfiction? Now that’s ridiculous. Fiction now is absurdly bad.
The fact that we're forced to compare the top 10% of FimFiction, which is already generous, to the absolute bottom dregs of published literature just to have a somewhat fair fight says everything. Ask for the best writers on FimFiction and half of you will cite Cold in Gardez. The sloppiest hack in the sloppiest pulp magazine, writing hungover at 3 AM just to afford a sandwich, mogs him effortlessly. They wouldn't have let Cold write the copyright notice.
On the left a random page from a decently selling fiction book from this year called May we Feed the King.On the right is a random segment from a HIE fic called Your Human and You that I think is decent by mlp fanfiction standards. Which do you guys think is better?
PSA: nini storySomething that has bothered me for a long time and nobody told me there was a solution:If you like to fall asleep listening to random fics, you can use scripts like "Fanfiction Qomplete" to display the whole fic on the browser. Then you can use any Text-to-Speech extension like "Read Aloud" so you can listen to it without having to click "next chapter"
>>43601979The Queen is bad, but the other one has a character performing actions in the same paragraph as a different character's dialogue, so fuck the other one hard with a broken bottle.
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I'd like to discuss "Daring Do and the Amulet of Graveeda" with the enjoyer of Daring Do once he gets around to it. The story's strange; Bother and Klamnei made some choices I wouldn't have with the prose also.There's nothing really wrong with arbitrary limits like imposing a maximum of one thousand chapters either, autists need to learn that one million words should be enough for most any story. Sequels exist for a good reason.>>43588038>I think that MLP fan fiction produces better works on average than any other fan fiction community.I believe you.>But did we produce better professional writers when people left us?I'd like to be a professional writer, but I doubt that'll happen with all of the "AI" bullshit. I saw on my local news earlier this year a story about a woman releasing her latest book, and it focussed on her fucking social media presence and other horseshit. Ultimately, "professional" was supposed to imply a minimum standard of quality, but now people are finding ChatGPT prompts in their fucking textbooks, so it really doesn't matter. This reminds me of an article I read about the consolidation of publishing houses, and how most of them want people who will be guaranteed to make money rather than taking chances on new writers; this means promoting celebrities with ghostwritten books, people with popular social media accounts, and no one else.>>43592342>I mean if we're taking Creaturequestria as canonGrim.>>43600185I mostly read old nonfiction. Oh, but you're implying I read much fanfiction anyway. Every time I take a chance on some random story from the front page, it tends to disgust me with its basic mistakes, and when not that it makes choices with its acceptance of canon that usually have me stop reading instead.Anyway, you guys should read "The Last Unicorn" by Peter Beagle. His prose is beautiful, and the story's nice too.>>43601818I consider myself to be an above average author. Good luck even getting a job as a technical writer, however.>>43601979The left is clearly better, but comparing that to some HiE shit is cruel. You may as well compare an Isekai's plot to a Western Saturday morning cartoon from the 90s, or a DVD of Japanese hentai to a random Western animator. Seriously though, an acquaintance played some hentai—people paid for that shit—and it was just pathetic compared to what guys release on fucking Twitter for nothing; oh, and it was about the guy's old father who married a young woman, so it wouldn't be incestuous technically. The same guy loves isekai shit, so that's about all he watches, and he was telling me about some fanfiction concerning a fourth-dimensional traveller hopping between fictional universes the last time I spoke with him. The Jap shit is so low quality it's not even that funny anymore.
>>43601979>leftI see some issues like a reliance on dashes when not needed, and I think using sudden italics in place of quotes is kind of tacky, but overall I'd say it's strong. It flows well, avoids repetition, and it manages to convey a unique narrative voice without relying too heavily on gimmicks. Words like "now-King" or "unfoolish" and comments like "which is some consolation" do a lot to give the text flavour and personality. This page is basically just an exposition dump, but it doesn't feel like one.It's also very good at weaving in double-meanings and/or foreshadowing with lines like "All flesh has value and is treated accordingly", a line which in context is used to highlight the lover's empathy and humanism, but out of context it sounds downright evil. Good shit if this character is going to have a darker, machiavellian side to him, or if the narrator thinks that to be the case.>rightSome neat ideas, but suffers from repetition and stilted wording. I like the use of tildes to act as quotes for sign language, but bolding it as well is too much. I like the worldbuilding of how the thermometer is designed, but the explanation of it is awkward. It's first described as a "strange-looking device". An odd reaction considering that the narrator then states it looks like a thermometer. Not strange at all then, when you think about it. You'd need some reason for him to think that it's strange at first. Something like: "She pulled out a stick with some kind of flat pad on the end. It looked like a kind of weird riding crop. Then I saw the temperature display and realized it was just a thermometer." Or you can just say "She pulled out a thermometer with a black pad on the end." Basically it's failing where the other passage is succeeding. It's trying to use small moments like those to highlight just how alien the world is and how even something mundane like getting your temperature taken can be a weird experience, which all adds up to developing a main character with a strong voice. But you have to convey that information concisely or it just reads like bland exposition. A similar (although relatively minor) issue occurs when the author says "the batpony commanded" after already highlighting her "leathery wings". One should have faith in their audience to read that and conclude she's a batpony without spelling it out. There's also a joke that I think was just fucked up in editing: "That depends on the princess" isn't a proper response to anything that was just said. It's not clear if the joke is that Twilight would prefer to chew on his flanks, or if he wouldn't mind making Twilight upset. There are also little things that make it harder to read like "...reached down for the steaming mug. Picking it up, I then stood up and slowly made my way..." since that's really one action it should be one sentence. "I picked up the steaming mug and slowly made my way to the couch" flows much better.
>>43602388(cont.)I want to highlight that last criticism about the mug because I think you can clearly see where the author went wrong. Earlier the author clarifies that the narrator placed the mug on the floor, so the author made a point of noting that he would have to bend over to pick it back up again. This is good in theory, it shows that the author is taking care to have continuity. If something is put on the floor it doesn't just rematerialize when it's convenient, someone has to pick it back up again. The mistake is in realizing that what's a good habit for the author isn't going to be compelling reading for the audience. It's good for the author to remember that a human is going to be taller than ponies, that a movement like picking something off the floor is going to look and feel different than it would for a pony character, just like how different ponies are going to use hooves/wings/magic to manipulate their environment in different ways with varying success, and a lot of good can come from remembering those distinctions. But it gets old fast, often adds unnecessary padding to the story, and can even come off like you think the audience is retarded. This is where annotations can come in handy. Write that shit in extra paragraphs with a > or something to help you visualize the scene, and then erase it before publishing. And remember: punctuation is not just used to improve readability and appease grammar nazis. Punctuation is to writing what a musical score is to filmmaking. When used properly it isn't immediately noticed, but it will make everything you create far more engaging. A good comma is like a orchestral swell, building up tension, keeping you on edge, waiting for the satisfying release of a period. Learn to love your grammar and punctuation.
>>43600091>First of all that's how everything worksI didn't write a long enough post, sorry.Yes, most stories are like that. There are bad ones that are just a series of disconnected events happening, but it's normal to chain together cause and effect. This is not what I'm talking about with ITCON.Compared to the bare minimum of a normal story, ITCON has zero additional foreshadowing. The bare minimum would be "the spirit is introduced, it will become more prominent later" and "the Captain gets sick, then dies"To the degree ITCON has foreshadowing, it's almost exclusively limited to the characters explicitly telling you that they are taking action to achieve an effect, followed by that effect. There are cases where the framing device cuts even that out, where Sawbones is deliberately hiding plans from the Annals until they're completed.In ITCON, the characters lives are almost exclusively living in the present, and then Mitch smacks them all with a plot device to move the story forward. I can see why you'd focus on how they live in the day to day and the way it presents this illusory lack of structure, declaring that it's SoL, but I am disagreeing because it is illusory. The story is very structured and the characters are experiencing an adventure storyline whenever it's not in the middle of a training arc, which is most of the time by far, because they are very regularly getting smacked. And yes, because they're living in the present, their motivations and the relative importance of plot events reflect that, which causes those things to abruptly change and get replaced when they are smacked. I've already said I like that. That doesn't make it stop being an adventure.>They go ghoul hunting, not because what happened before naturally flows into that plotThis is a very silly take, because it is exactly the opposite of the truth. Their ghoul clearing activities are one of the most naturally consequential effects of the plot preceding it that you could possibly point to.>inconsequential, inconsequential, inconsequentialNo, all that stuff is consequential, just not far enough into the story's future from the point it happens for your too-rigid definition of an adventure. Those things are usually consequential only within the span of the arc, which would have been the span of one of the original Black Company books. And it's OK for an adventure to be slow paced, see Perytonia.You are supposed to enjoy ITCON in the ways you described, but not exclusively in those ways. You have a lot more in it to look forward to as an adventure, in the planes they travel to, in the threats they face, in the war strategies an trickery they execute, than you would ever have in GTG. Because it's not just, or even primarily, SoL.
>>43602465>and can even come off like you think the audience is retardedBut my audience really is retarded.
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/42409/the-writing-on-the-wall7/10. Daring participates in an archeological expedition to an ancient ruin that's 71,000 years old and has been rebuilt and rehidden countless times over its history to keep what was hidden inside buried. The progenitor of the "Yucca Mountain" genre and, perhaps, the most famous Daring fic on Fimfiction. I'd only known about its spoilerly ending and had never actually read it. Imagine my surprise that it's not only a pre-Daring Don't fic, but it's not even 6k. That shorter word count does wound it. The dread and tension doesn't have that much time to build.I was also shocked by how relatively minor Daring's role in her most famous fic really is. She explores a bit of the tunnel, then spends the rest of the fic grounded with early radiation sickness, leaving the OCs to really pick up the slack. The biggest flaw, of course, is the radiation itself. For some reason, I had it in my head the WIPP was only 10k old. 71k is insane. There's no way radiation like that would still be around to kill Daring, even with the "ponies are more squishy to radiation" handwave the author tries in the comments. So, a horror oneshot is again killed by its own monster. The horror oneshot genre just can't escape it, it seems.Magic immortal death radiation aside, I think the real flaw is that shortness. There's barely a breath between "Ahuizotl might spread a deadly ancient virus and destroy the world" and the ending reveal. It really could have slowed down a bit to heighten the tension and mystery of what was going on and make Daring's role in her own story more prominent. It didn't even do the "walking dead" phase of acute radiation sickness that would have been the perfect horror fic hope spot before the brutal ending.Kind of a disappointment, if I'm honest, even if the concept is 10/10, but that's the fate of most hyped and popular fics, isn't it?>end>>43597048I'm on the second pass of oneshots, then it's the multichapters. I'm full sunk cost now. I can't stop til I'm through them all and I get the monkey off my back.>>43600185I'm shocked by how little I care about the characters. Authors keep expecting me to care after about 4k. I keep thinking "This would be so much better if I'd already known this person for three seasons and was invested in what happens to them." It's the true fanfic curse.>>43601335Age of Wings and Steel is better than Patriot Games. Rye doesn't spend a third of the story in a hospital bed while the IRA fucks around in a bookstore. And I'll take an epic dragon fight over Canterlot as a climax over a boat chase in a river any day of the week.>>43601979Are there no proper nouns in that book? Why does the narrator refuse to use names? I already have a hard enough time caring about your characters, but now you're not even giving them names.>>43602373i make no guarantees I'll be fully reading it. My tolerance for fetish fics erodes with each one I look at.
>>43601979As everyone else has said, Your Human and You is very much not decent by mlp fanfiction standards.If you really want to compare against a HiE, use Pirene or something.
>reading a story by a friend>it's not good
>>43605020I have this problem where, because I am the most well-read person that he knows, my friend keeps asking me to read stories he has written. This by itself, I have no issue with. However, I cannot help but notice that all his stories are basically the same. Putting it into FIMfiction terms, imagine you have a friend who messages you to read his latest romance fic every few months. One is LyraBon. Another is TwiPie. Then another is AppleDash, you get the picture. Yet, without fail, even if the characters and set-up are different, they all manage to be the same meet-cute short beat-for-beat. I want to see him improve but it is really hard when all I can say earnestly is "well, his grammar and spelling is a little bit better than last time."
