> fluttershy (libleft) is the pony who liked the idea of the equality village the most> Pinkie pie (libright) is the one most skeptical of it
>>43619574I like how Fluttershy is just the retarded one and the cowardly one and she has a useless job and she can be annoying sometimes and she's a horrible sister who sees a fucking rabbit more as her brother than her real brother, but it's okay because she's a smoking hot damsel in distress.
If you still think Starlight's village was "socialism" or "communism" and haven't yet figured out that it was, in reality, a fascist right-wing dictatorship that very dishonestly preached "equality" to hide the fact that what Starlight was actually doing was subjugation.....then I'm sorry, but you're stupid. Like, really, REALLY stupid. It wasn't an example of "equality gone too far", the village literally was just not an example of equality at all in the first place.Straight up, if you took the "equality" shit at face value and you still think her village was an example of any kind of remotely left-leaning ideology then holy FUCK you are actually fucking retarded and media-illiterate.
>>43620067It's neither, it's a Harrison Bergeron pastiche dipshit.
>>43619574Politics???
>>43619594>she has a useless jobFluttershy effectively buffers the Everfree Forest from the rest of ponyville. She has her animals job but I mostly see her as involved in a defense/security position. She's also the go-between with Zecora and one of the only ponies that goes out into the forest looking for herbs. Before Zecora she probably was the only source of stuff from the Everfree for a lot of Ponyville and Ponyville almost certainly exports/onsells Everfree products at a massive markup (we even know this for sure with some things like Zap Apples).I feel like she's second to Pinkie in regional importance at the start of the show. Dash might have a more influential position in the community but it's also something that the next-best pegasus could slot into and take over tomorrow or probably does pretty often when the M6 are on adventures.>>43620067Anon those are literally the same thing>if you don't think X is X and not X, you're retardedwew laddieEquestria under sunhorse believes in free trade and personal exceptionalism, dissenters will be sold cakes at full market price same as everypony else
>>43620067It's not any sort of political entity, it's inspired by 20th century cults. Admittedly, many of those cults originally viewed themselves as Trotskyist but they weren't political in any real sense.
>>43619574Pinkie pie was the most racist in bridle gossip>>43620067Imagine subscribing to the Jewish concept of severity vs mercy with zero middle ground. Thats what your fake and gay 2 party system is. Its used to rig juries.
>>43619574Left and right as in their relative position in that image?I'm confused.
>>43620067>media-illiterate.Stopped reading there.
>>43619574Naturally. This is easily explainable as follows:>Pinkie PiePinkie Pie runs a busines (or at least is part of a business: Sugarcube Corner). She can recognize that enforced conformity and sameness would fuck with the business model and likely result in it folding. So, Pinkie would hat it.>FluttershyThough not explicitly shown in the show, Fluttershy probably works for the Equestrian Ministry of Forests and Resources, as some sort of analyst on the overall health of various species and ecologies in and around Ponyville. Thus, top-down authority and enforced regulation would seem very natural and comfortable to her. So, she would be less skeptical of the village
>>43620521Stinky Pie
>>43620885Rude.
>>43620885get your head out from between her legs
>>43620521>Pinkie Pie runs a businesShe is a mildly retarded manual laborer emoloyed by the Cakes. They probably get gibs from the government for that and for housing her.
>>43619574Fluttershy is retarded
>>43621166She's a pegasus, of course she's retarded.
>>43621024No
>>43619574Libsneed
>>43622156Andrea Libsneed
>>43622209Lol.
>>43620067It was just cultish like another anon said, but it had some very clear references to communist dictatorships, and not to fascist ones.
>>43622241didn't hitler also call himself a socialist or something along those lines, and at some point he admitted the reason he did that was to confuse people so they would he tricked into thinking socialism was a bad thing
>>43622440no, i think he admitted the reason he did that was that socialism's popularity in germany was growing at the time, and he was just cashing in on that.
>>43619574What's a "pick me"?
>>43620067>a fascist right-wing dictatorship that very dishonestly preached "equality" to hide the fact that what Starlight was actually doing was subjugationWhich is exactly what every communist state in history did, dipshit.
>>43622812a foid insult for other foids that don't hate men enough
>>43621083Pinkie is a welfare queen. Granny Pie died quietly on the farm over ten years ago, but it was never reported, so she's been able to cash in on every bit of federal aid that still gets sent to her.
>>43622440Hitler was a vegetarian and staunch anti-smoking proponent. Chew on that one.
>>43624156You forgot to attach a smuggie.
>>43624172I wasn't trying to own him. More of a "something to think about" statement.
>>43620112This is my fantasy and there's no wrong way to fantasize! To me she's a worthless pathetic helpless rapeable crybaby, whom I can abuse all I want and she'd be too scared to tell anypony, and I want my white pp juice deep inside her womanly baby making parts RIGHT NOW!!!!She gets me so worked up... Fuck, man! Why is she so hot, honestly?
>>43619574>Pinkie pie (libright)she's more of a central lib "no rulz lmao" >>43620067>If you still think Starlight's village was "socialism" or "communism" and haven't yet figured out that it was, in reality, a fascist right-wing dictatorship that very dishonestly preached "equality" to hide the fact that what Starlight was actually doing was subjugationread Animal Farm
>>43626346>read Animal FarmYou're aware that it's fiction, right?
>>43626354and MLP is fiction too, doesn't mean that it has actual friendship lessons every regime that bases itself on "equality of all" results in a new, unnatural hierarchy that is often worse than the previous state of things
>>43626368It's just silly to bring up Orwell's anti-Stalin screed as an objective descriptor of how the real world works. He never lived under any sort of socialist system, he just was angry that Stalin didn't support Catalonia in the Spanish Civil War and decided to write a story about how angry he was about it.
>>43626384may you please show me an example of any "ideology of equality" that, when put into practice, actually makes people equal?
>>43626405Irrelevant to the point I'm making, which is that specific example is a very poor one and people shouldn't use it.
>>43626417>which is that specific example is a very poor one and people shouldn't use it.but it's still accurate the fact that Orwell was an anti-Stalin socialist doesn't mean that his explanation through animals is le bad is>animal take over a farm from a human>hope for equality>pigs just make it function like a human onea bad tl;dr of every equity movement before and after book's release?
>>43619574>twilight (neurotic paranoid schizo) was the one who realized something wasn't right and blew the lid off the whole thingStirner was right and everyone arguing itt is gay AND fake.
>>43626384You never lived under any sort of socialist system. I bet you never even visited a post-communist country.
>>43622812It's what girls call other girls when they try to actually appeal to what guys like instead of being an insufferable bitch.
>>43619574I don't get this. Is this a /pol/ thread?
>>43628133If only you were around during the /mlpol/ day
>>43627996They must not use it often then.
>>43627996don't they call others like bitches or whatever
s-stop calling my wife retarded please if you wouldn't mind t-thanks
>>43631035What Marx wanted to eliminate is capital and the market, because it only benefits a social class that remains the governing force of the world, imposing its morality without dispute (for example, Jewsbro exporting wokeness, AIs restricting “unsafe” content, etc.); that is, man is a slave and subject of whoever has capital. Unlike the anarchists, who believe the state is a kind of entity and unit of domination, Marx asks why that entity CAN dominate over a mass; the answer is obvious: it cannot. The state is only an instrument of domination; by itself it is useless if no one uses it. Power is not a feeling or an attitude toward the other; it is material, it is real, it needs something to enable it, and precisely that something is capital, which he criticizes, and the market. Hence the proclamation “To everyone according to their needs and to each according to their qualities.” Put this way, the one who works more will indeed continue to have more; that is why in the USSR scientists, artists, and relevant figures were the country’s elite because they strove harder to get there. The difference is that this elite only had better conditions, not the effective and real capacity to impose morality or their beliefs on others; the same happens in present-day China even though it has a market system. Starlight Glimmer’s village is rather “utopian socialism,” an egalitarian anarchist commune, but not in itself Marxism-style communism, nor is it authoritarianism, because Glimmer is not a villain; Twilight ends up agreeing with her but does not agree with the solution. It is also true that the cutie mark system is already in itself a naturalistic imposition; I mean, in the end you are good at only one thing, and you do not have the freedom to change profession. In fact, in economic theory this is known as “specialism,” and Ricardo, for example, describes it in his book on the principles of economy and taxation; it is a basis of the capitalist system because, with productivity as the only basis, changing profession means learning something new at the cost of productivity. Marx also criticized the latter; he considers that a man who cannot change profession and take up other things if he undertakes it is not free, even if he renounces or momentarily sacrifices productivity, because in the end the system already produces goods in excess and there is no sense in specializing in something that cannot be improved further. Fluttershy communes more with that free spirit, because nature is not a specialist; it is evolutionary and adapts despite the risk of death. Our own cells prove that all the time, even though some of them take the form of cancer; that is why Glimmer’s idea appeals more to a free spirit than to a lamb of the system.
>>43620067Yeah man, Hitler was all about equality
>>43622812"incel" but for women
>>43631038It is irrelevant what Marx meant or wanted, the village mirrors what communist states were like in reality.
>>43631035>>43631038>Giving a fuck what Karl "Engles plz send more money, I don't want to get a job" Marx thinks about anything
>>43631038What exactly makes Starlight’s town an anarchist community? Can you prove it?>why that entity CAN dominate over a massBecause we as a species were engineered to serve the Anunnaki, most likely. Horsies don't seem to have the same built-in backdoors. It makes it hard and often nonsensical to apply our political categories to them.>this elite only had better conditions, not the effective and real capacity to impose morality or their beliefs on othersExcept for glowniggers who had both and then some.
>>43619574pinkie and flutters are both equally worst pony and they should of dropped them for rarity and aj in g^ instead
>>43631143>anarchist community? To begin with, it is the anarchists who seek egalitarianism; if you have read political theory, you should know that anarchism has far more forms than communism. It is the ideology with the most organizational and ideological diversity: there is vertical anarchism, syndical anarchism, which advocates total equality of condition, distributive and mandatory tasks, and a union representative tasked with assigning tasks that have no social benefit, who leads the same austere life. The village fulfills all those purposes because Glimmer never obtained economic benefits, so you cannot go down that road; she really defended what she believed. It is a discourse against the “Diversity” of cutie marks, and it advocates equality because equality is freedom for anarchism, since an imposed profession does not allow a free spirit. Bakunin also portrays this many times: the contradiction that a single job is free only because you have no other choice, so the community distributes the hardest jobs among everyone so that afterward each person can devote themselves to what they like most. That was what Glimmer proposed; it went wrong because the script is anti-anarchist and pro-DEI. It is obvious, since methodological individualism is part of zog mutt culture. In any case, I am not defending that idea.>Because we as a species were engineered to serve the AnunnakiCopium mutt who explains nothing trying to naturalize servitude to Judaism, /x/ is on that way anon.>Except for glowniggers who had both and then some.Your own glowies in their declassified reports admit that Soviet officials had living conditions many times worse than those of the average citizen, more austere and more sacrificial. And that they precisely took advantage of this, offering them conditions of wealth and protection if they betrayed or leaked sensitive information; that is where the black market was born. This is known as a fifth column, and it was a war tactic. No system is perfect, but the accusations you mutts make about communism are jewish delusions.
>>43631235Commies be like that
>>43631235Well, annoyed minds think alike.
Aryanne thread
>>43631049So they preach the truth about males instead?
>>43631288>>43631246Sex with aryanne
>>43631363No, but it is a meaningless insult meant to devalue another human in the context of the social hierarchy. When a woman calls you an "incel", she means to attack your social status. When a woman calls another woman a "pick me", she means to attack that woman's social status.
>>43631387That's how humans argue all the time though.
>>43620112>Dash might have a more influential position in the community but it's also something that the next-best pegasus could slot into and take over tomorrow or probably does pretty often when the M6 are on adventures.Not without an enormous loss of productivity. From her first appearance, it's established that Dash can do in seconds what might take an entire team of pegasi hours. She is to everypony else as a Ferrari is to a tricycle.
ponies! :D
>>43631563We all love 'em here.
>>43631448>Not without an enormous loss of productivity. From her first appearance, it's established that Dash can do in seconds what might take an entire team of pegasi hours.I don't see where you're getting that from. Outside of the Rainboom (which she can't do at that point) Dash isn't much more effective than other pegasi. Twilight Sparkle doesn't understand that she can clear the sky in ten seconds flat, but we see other Pegasi doing pretty much the same things with clouds just as easily as Rainbow Dash all the time. Like, in Hurricane Fluttershy we get a pretty objective measure of Dash's weather contribution and it's about 50% higher than other trained (many subaverage!) pegasi. That's not some enormous gulf where she can't be efficiently replaced. And other villages don't have a Rainbow Dash and are getting along just fine with their <16 wingspeed weather captain as well.The main pony that's shocked by how effective Rainbow Dash is is S1 Twilight, who is a known racist that doesn't believe other pony tribes have significant talents or relevance.
>>43628501They do.
>>43632597>and for that matter it only measures speed or flight force or something like thatIt measures flight force in some form of air displacement or whatever which seems to relate specifically to weather magic stuff like making the tornado.When it comes to physical performance in both strength and speed Fluttershy is mostly able to match boomless Dash despite being by far the worst pony on the wing scale.>Among other things that could put her ahead, Rainbow certainly has technique.Let's not pretend that like 50% or more of all pegasi don't have the same lifestyle and ambitions as Dash.
>>43632453Forgot pic
This thread made me chuckle
>>43636085Kek
>>43636085Me too.
>>43619594>No applejack your livelihood will have to be destroyed by bats because im shy and kind and you have to listen to me
>>43619594>but it's okay because she's a smoking hot damsel in distressShe isn't even cute, her design is ugly, especially compared to the rest of the Mane 6.
>>43640639what a fucking liar you are
>>43619574Flutters is always whale cum.
>>43632688That's what bothered me about Hurricane Fluttershy, the writers forgot that Fluttershy was able to catch a slightly nerfed Dash while pulling a heavy balloon carrying other ponies at high speed. Then somehow she flies slow as hell without pulling anything, then loses to butterflies which are far lighter than a balloon carrying passengers.
>>43619594>retardedSee rainbow dash for retardation>cowardlyBeing shy isn't a vice in itself. Sure, it can get in the way, but it can be a counterbalance to the arrogance or inconsideration of the other ponies. And she's really only stupidly shy in the later seasons, s1 flutters was very shy but also a bit more socially unaware and a bit clueless as opposed to a doormat later on>useless jobShe keeps animals from wandering into the everfree, and is the chief authority on matters of wildlife/ecosystem management. She is crucial for events like winter wrap up and things of the like. Her work may not be easily noticeable, but it's a vital role.>annoying sometimesThey all are at some times, in their own ways>horrible sisterShe wanted her brother to get a job and support himself, is that really horrible? She let him stay with her and lined up several jobs for him. Zephyr was a bit of a mess.>smoking hot damsel in distressYou got that right
>>43620067https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5irHa31Zng0Whatever nerd
>>43620067yeah mang fascism is like when ju like have authoritarianism o algo
>>43644247>And she's really only stupidly shy in the later seasonsYea season 1 Flutters was really not so shy compared to how she was portrayed later on. She probably got hit with the flanderization stick the worst of anypony. S1 Flutter could actually be sarcastic, and acted pretty normal with children and animals. S2 is when they started making her more of a crybaby who panicked super easily.
>>43644247>she's really only stupidly shy in the later seasonsThe only stupidly shy moment I can think of is when she couldn't even say her own name, I'm a shy person but that was cringe to look at.
>>43643996Yeah it's a weird episode for a couple reasons. The Flutterfilly backstory with Dash also feels like an early example of a meaningful retcon/something being written that certainly hadn't informed a lot of earlier episodes where, in theory, it should have if this was a real world with a consistent backstory from the beginning.That said it's still easy enough to square what we see in a number of ways>Fluttershy is just bad at weather magic specifically and physically she's not as far off>The entire episode is just about performance anxiety and Fluttershy has an actual wing power of 10+ at the end since she's above average and has the fruits of her training>Fluttershy performs under pressure but her daily output is way lower than when she's on M6 adventures or in the hurricane and other ponies are depending on heretc.In mid-late seasons they make really explicit something which has always been true that pony throughput is extremely dependent on emotions. So I don't really mind ponies clocking inconsistent scores on systematic tests so much, but it would have been better if they were more consistent yeah.
>>43644414>She probably got hit with the flanderization stick the worst of anypony.No, that was definitely Pinkie by a mile, followed by Twilight.
>>43644426>I'm a shy person but that was cringe to look at.But being shy IS cringy. That's why MAS's depiction of Fluttershy is the best one, because it shows how obnoxious it actually is.
>>43631035>>43631038>>43631206I could barely follow but that was a very interesting analysis. I always knew Our Town wasn't communism even without knowing much about politics, seemed obvious to me even as a layman.
>>43619574>Pinkie>RightHahahahahaha someone didn't watch the show
>>43645516>vaguepostingExplain.
>>43645516But anon, she IS standing on the right
>>43645538It wouldn't come off as vagueposting if you actually watched the show. Putting aside the fact Pinkie's personality doesn't fit any kind of right-leaning philosophy besides serving the absolute monarchy of a literal Goddess-Queen/Maternal Figure and her not-so-relevant sister (sorry Lunafags, she is great but it is true). If the mane six of Equestria were placed on Earth, all of them would end up something Americans would call communist because it shows care for their fellow sapient beings over profit and worship of those who have wealth. That entire political compass thing is dumb anyway. Somehow even worse than DnD alignment charts.>>43645539Touche.
fluttershy sucks and is gay
>>43645560But some chuds here say Equestria is a right-wing paradise...
>>43645575Gay for me, maybe
>anons are so politically brainrotted they’re called Fluttershy a libtardI’ve seen enough it’s time to close the board
>>43645575Fluttershy is objectively the best pony and it can be proven
>>43646476Nah.
>>43620466Anon that's the end of the post, thats where youre supposed to stop reading
>>43619574>>43619594>>43620067All of you are massive retards and it would take entirely too long to explain why, so I'll just tell you to kill yourselves.
>>43645560She literally attacked and scared off some random filly for trying to trade a broken pen for some of Twilight's books then started a bidding war while declaring they were the property of a princess.
>>43647257correct
>>43647234He said "something Americans would call communism" which means anything that isn't total corpo bootlicking, not actual communism.
>>43645560That's a fucking nice burger jab you got in there. Look how mad they are.
>>43647802If you seriously think any of the M6 would have contemporary American right wing beliefs you might actually have less media literacy than the children the show was made for.
>>43645516Was it you? Pinkie is blasé at most towards authority, but she's basically the embodiment of traditional pony values and generally places them above her own happiness.The real problem with OP is the claim that Fluttershy is anti-authoritarian.
Boy I sure do love assigning ponies our shitty political philosophies. I am sure this will cause respectful discussion that totally isn't off topic shit flinging. Oh isn't it wonderful that we can project all of the shitty things of our world onto Equestria?
>>43647872>The real problem with OP is the claim that Fluttershy is anti-authoritarian.NTA, it may kinda go either way. Fluttershy's entire character arc is about her shaping her sado-maso soul into something worthy of a decent sentient being. I can easily imagine her traversing the whole range and then some in her good and bad days.
>>43647923Never forget anon, >ponies would hate you ackchually.Yes this is obviously sarcasm.
>>43647933I mean that's fair, but in The Cutie Map she is essentially torn between two authority figures and systems of heavy-hoofed, top down absolute governance. She basically likes Starlight and it seems she would probably be happy to live in the town even despite the injustice inflicted upon herself if it wasn't for the fact that it hurt her friends, and the only reason she acts against them originally is because Twilight tells her to. Her choice is between Twilight/the Diarchy and Starlight/Equality, she doesn't even seem to really care about Sugar Belle and the others.Also I love how Pinkie Pie gradually starts switching over to Maud style jokes as she adapts to not being able to express enthusiasm. Party Favor (what a name) stabbing the door is fun too.
>>43647923I fucking hate when shartists do that shit. Why in the world would you ever put a giant gap between the ass cheeks and how the fuck is it attractive to look at?>"O-OH BUT IT'S LE HORSEPUSSY IT'S FEATURELE--"Don't care. It looks retarded.
>>43647764Communism is totalitarian and peak bootlickerThe communist manifesto states that the dictatorship of the proletariat is necessary for the final form of communism. Both Marx and Engels said that "their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions". Engals followed up with "A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists."It should be noted even Marx got tired of his own ideas and Engals begged and pestered him to finish Das Kapital when all Marx wanted to do was have his kids learn to play the piano.The Bolsheviks lost the 1917 Russian Constituent Assembly election then the Bolsheviks subsequently disbanded the Constituent Assembly and proceeded to rule the country as a one-party state with all opposition parties banned.It was the whole impetus for the October Revolution. They literally sperged out, said "the people are wrong", and took control.Then Lenin instituted the idea of "democratic centralism" (top leaders can discuss issues, everyone else MUST obey). This caused a left wing uprisings against the Bolsheviks who then purged and destroyed them to consolidate power.left-wing enemies were dealt with by the ChekaLenin and the bolsheviks killed off and destroyed the menshiviks, constituent assembly, malhnovshchina, burnatskom, nabat, green armies, black guard, narva and other various anarchists groups also the SRP, ARF, BDA, SFP, USRP and the Left SRS.
>>43648073I'm not sure why this is hard to understand for you, but I'm saying that when the other anon talked about "something Americans would call communism", he wasn't talking about communism, he was referencing the fact that American conservatives call anything to the left of their party lines communism, even things like basic social welfare programs and safety nets, public transit, and funding public education. All of the Mane 6 would almost certainly support things like that, and thus be labeled as communists if they existed in the modern US.
>>43648091>basic social welfare programs and safety nets, public transit, and funding public education.>All of the Mane 6 would almost certainly support things like thatThey'd be surprised that people weren't already doing those things on their own, and perplexed at the notion that attempting to force them would actually fix the issue.
>>43648091Anon the only time the Crown tried to enforce anything beyond the most minimal nightwatchman state there was a civil war.>even things like basic social welfare programs and safety nets, public transit, and funding public educationGood ponies like the M6 literally don't support any of these things being government funded.>public transitSeems to carry a charge. There are numerous forms of commercial transport.>social welfare programs and safety netsWe see ponies without families or cut off from their family living basically in the wilderness. Literally Fluttershy's own brother is a hobo when he doesn't have a job and can't mooch from family. Trixie is forced to work on the rock farm. The safety net in Equestria is that almost everypony is fundamentally decent and is able to make their own way in life by just trying.>funding public education'Public education' is shown to be supported by private charityIt's worth keeping in mind that Equestria as a society is a lot wealthier than ours and can approach things like substantial building projects as one day jobs.
>>43648091Works both ways for American politics even J.K. Rowling is considered right wing and fascist for being against trans.Everything is considered fascist or Nazi if it's right of the American left's party lines
>>43648133>Good ponies like the M6 literally don't support any of these things being government funded.Any evidence of this?
>>43648144Why don't you read the rest of the post and find out?
>>43648133Fluttershy is funded by the state, she doesn't sell any goods or services.>'Public education' is shown to be supported by private charityWho says they can't donate to a public good?>basically in the wildernessThis only implies that free housing may not be one of the social welfare programs>Trixie is forced to work on the rock farmPeople still have to work under socialism.>>43648156Living in a state isn't exactly an indication of support for the current state if that's what you're arguing.
>>43646476trvke
>>43648133Based on all of their values, which you can observe through watching the show more holistically rather than nitpicking episodic plot elements, they would support those things being funded if they lived in a world that wasn't a cartoon utopia.Also if you do want to make it about autistic theorizing through plot details, notice how there aren't any homeless ponies in ponyville, even though many of them are never really seen working and could be assumed to have pretty useless jobs given their cutie marks. There's likely some sort of pseudo-UBI from the throne or other welfare programs, provided you attempt to work in some capacity. Trixie could be considered exempt from this due to being persona non grata after Boast Busters or you could say she was just too prideful to accept support.
>>43648205>Fluttershy is funded by the state, she doesn't sell any goods or services.Got any evidence for this?>Who says they can't donate to a public good?Because that would make it private, anon.>Living in a state isn't exactly an indication of support for the current state if that's what you're arguing.Anon they are the top level agents of the state for most of this and change nothing when they literally become the state.But also>the only time the Crown tried to enforce anything beyond the most minimal nightwatchman state there was a civil warTo be clear, the civil war was more like a holy war and Twilight/the Mane Six, especially, look to the Elements as a judge of righteousness. If you try to tax ponies then the supreme force of friendship will send you to the moon.>>43648216>There's likely some sort of pseudo-UBI from the throne or other welfare programs, provided you attempt to work in some capacity.That's really not likely at all considering we see no evidence of it whatsoever. Plus there's just no need for it, considering>Equestria as a society is a lot wealthier than ours and can approach things like substantial building projects as one day jobs.
>>43648224You're free to show us how Fluttershy makes money.>Because that would make it privateDonations can be made to public services on top of the state funding they get. >they are the top level agents of the stateBeing an element bearer doesn't grant them governmental authority.>If you try to tax ponies then the supreme force of friendship will send you to the moon.Equestria wouldn't exist as it is without taxes.>Equestria as a society is a lot wealthierWhere are the overworked coal miners and cheap slave labor at?
>>43648515>Where are the overworked coal miners and cheap slave labor at?In the equestria slave markets like the one Rainbow Dash sold Fluttershy into.Don't forget ponies are extremely xenophobic Fluttershy kept trying to correct Pinkie Pie and Rarity when they referred to Iron Will as a monster.
>>43648554>Zero paperwork, just a verbal agreement where Fluttershy didn't feel like speaking upThat's like randomly pointing to a nearby pony to use as trade.
>>43648563>Fluttershy agreed to the terms for Rainbow Dash and the other pony accepted her as payment Hmmm
>>43648566If Fluttershy agreed to it then it's not slavery.
>>43648571She didn't agree with it she just got browbeaten by Dash and did what Dash asked if her Now why would that other pony accept another pony as payment?
>>43648578Fluttershy could've said no at any point. She has the freedom to choose.The pony accepted Fluttershy's services that she offered to do.
>>43648584She could have and that deal would have been off but she didn't and got sold off by Rainbow Dash. Slavery is an acceptable trade in Equestria.
>>43648591That's not slavery.
>>43648596She was forced by Rainbow Dash and didn't correct Rainbow Dash or tell the other pony she was a free pony and not a slave pony.It's slavery
>>43648611She was never forced and had no obligation to comply. Fluttershy could have walked away if she wanted.
This discussion is just telling me that Fluttershy is pretty open about her slaveplay kink.
>Pinkie Pie (libright)Gonna have to stop you right there. The only librights in Equestria are the Flim Flam brothers (who get BTFO every time they try to do anything) plus a certain number of Griffons.
>>43648660Anfd Celestia.
>>43648619If that was true then Fluttershy would have said no but she didn't and got sold off by Rainbow Dash. Hence the episode
>>43649876Fluttershy was too much of a doormat to refuse Dash.
>>43649877And too much of a doormat to not to get sold off into slavery.
>>43649880Working a job isn't slavery.
>>43649887Being sold off by another to work said job is
>>43649902She agreed to exchange her services for a book.
>>43649905Now why would a pony accept her services when Rainbow Dash could have done it instead of selling off Fluttershy?
>>43649907Dash doesn't know how to train animals.
>>43648660And Celestia.We're never really told what Pinkie's attitude towards government authority is explicitly but we certainly never see her showing respect for it. If anything, LE shows that she doesn't give a fuck what princesses say. She's the prime example of the individualist, carefree pony that Celestia wants Twilight to learn from and which Celestia has gone to war with her own family over protecting the ideals of. I mean think of it another way: Pinkie and Maud would go to war for their country (Sombra timeline), but what do you think would happen if a federal agent came down and wanted to touch Holder's Boulder without permission?
>>43649909But she does know how to sell off her friends
>>43649911Fluttershy agreed to the terms.
>>43649915In the episode as soon as Rainbow Dash realized what happened, she panicked, looked for Fluttershy, and immediately tried to fix her mistake. In the end she needed a princess to resolve the issue Now why would she freak out if it was just a job and not slavery?
>>43649921Dash would get in trouble if Fluttershy walked away.
>>43649926Why would she get in trouble? She already has the book. This is the same Rainbow Dash that sabotage a weather factory for her pet.
>>43649929The deal was for Fluttershy to train the pet so if she refuses Dash would have to return the book.
>>43649930Dash wouldn't return it hence why Twilight Sparkle had to step in.Fluttershy got sold off to pay her debt
>>43649933Dash is on the hook for it, not Fluttershy.
>>43649935Yet she refused to return said book until Twilight Sparkle gave her one. Then she released Fluttershy from her bondage debt and gave the book back.
>>43649938Fluttershy had no obligation to fulfill Dash's deal.
>>43649942She didn't have a choice. Hence the episode and why Twilight Sparkle had to clean things up.
>>43649944Fluttershy had a choice. Twi fixed Dash's mess.
>>43649945Is she did then there wouldn't have been an episode and friendship lesson.
>>43649949Fluttershy didn't feel like refusing Dash.
>>43649951This doesn't look consensual.
>>43649952Fluttershy let it happen.
>>43649955Agreed she let herself be enslaved.This is Dash's face after learning what she did.Seems kinda odd to be that terrified over a "job"
>>43649961Consenting is not slavery.
>>43649963It wasn't consensual it was coercion.Why else would Fluttershy look so distraught?
>>43649968Fluttershy didn't refuse out of undeserved kindness.
>>43649970Why would Fluttershy be distraught over working with animals? The thing she loves.
>>43649974She has other obligations.
>>43649975Such as? Even in the episode she trained the dog creature at the end of the episode.
>>43649977She has her own animals at home to take care of.
>>43649981But she still found time after she was released from her bondage to train the creature. Why would it be a conflict.
>>43649986She didn't
>>43649994She literally did. She even had a special whistle that tamed it instantly.
>>43649997That's a different trade.
>>43650000No it isn't.She did it because she likes working with animals for free.
>>43650002She didn't do anything for it. Dash traded with someone else for it.
>>43650006She didn't trade anyone else. Dash got a book from Twilight and Fluttershy trained the creature anyway.Why cause such a commotion if it wasn't slavery?
>>43650019The original trade was called off and Dash traded with someone else.
>>43650021And Fluttershy still trained the creature but now without under bondage.
>>43650023She didn't do anything. The creature was never trained.
>>43650027She trained it.
>>43650028Never happened.
I've come to distinctly dislike Ponkfags and Flutterfags.
>>43650030Fluttershy immediately calmed the aggressive beast down on the spot by removing a thorn from its paw and soothing it. It's disobedience and aggression was because of that.
>>43650040wrong episode
Imagine using mental gymnastics to justify slavery...
>>43650045Same episode
>>43650049not so
>>43650062This scene mirrors the episode from Season 1 ("Friendship is Magic, Part 2") where Fluttershy calms down an angry manticore by removing a thorn from its paw as well.So yeah same episode
>>43650066No such scene.
>>43650068That's called being delusional
>>43650074it's called canon
>>43650036>I don't like people who watch the showye what a surprise lol
>>43650079What makes you think they watch the show?
>>43650084I watched the show
>>43650079>Only people whose favorite character is Fluttershy or Pinkie Pie watch the showYou're making me like Ponkfags and Flutterfags even less.
>>43650086What makes you think he dislikes you for that reason?
>>43650076Canon is Fluttershy getting sold into slavery by Rainbow Dash
>>43650000digits wasted on a shitty post in a shitty thread..
>>43650093That wasn't slavery.
>>43650100Yes it was
>>43650113It wasn't.
>>43650089Not what that post says but I guess we already established literacy wasn't your strong suit>>43650091What makes you think I think that?To break the shitpost combo, he dislikes people who have actually watched the show not because they have watched the show specifically but because they actually talk about the show and don't conform to his arbitrary headcanons/assertions about it when doing so. Basically people who have watched the show conflict with his ability to wear the show as a veneer of respectability (lol).Pinkie, Rarity and Fluttershy probably differ the most in reality from their pop culture perception, and on /mlp/ the performative fans of them aren't as common so there's a higher proportion of their fans that have actually seen the show. Basically it's very hard to like Pinkie unless you've actually watched S1, same with Fluttershy, and Rarity more for the show as a whole.
>>43650116Last I checked getting traded in a deal without against your will to perform tasks is.
>>43650126She could've refused if she wanted to.
>>43650132But she didn't and it's why the episode happened. Kinda like how Applejack has talking sheep slaves
>>43650117>Not what that post says but I guess we already established literacy wasn't your strong suitWell what the fuck else it it supposed to imply you retard?>To break the shitpost combo, he dislikes people who have actually watched the show not because they have watched the show specifically but because they actually talk about the show and don't conform to his arbitrary headcanons/assertions about it when doing soNo, I dislike them for being pretentious retards like you and for this uber retarded back and forth on what constitutes slavery or even what the events of the episode were. When these two can't even agree on what the actual events of an episode are, how in the hell does that scream "ah yes, they CLEARLY watched the show" to you?
>lil bro can't green text
>>43650140Not using her right to refuse doesn't equal slavery.
>>43650150It does when you get traded for a book to do labor
>>43650148Come back when you have an argument that isn't just fellating yourself for how enlightened you are.
>>43650152She agreed to it.
>>43650154She did it anyway for free after being released from slavery by Twilight Sparkle
>>43650163She didn't do anything of the sort.
>>43650153>lil bro got triggered by that post
>>43650164She was only sitting on a throne with the whole bazaar I front of her as she gave her verdits
>>43650143Fine, I'll stop messing with the slaverytard kek. Just wanted to finish watching a youtube video first.
>>43650166No, I'm triggered by the post that said her removing the thorn from the animal is what calms it down, when that literally never happens in this fucking episode.
>>43650175You're the same guy that is saying it's not real slavery?Okay that makes sense
>>43650176No I'm a different guy, but it blew my mind so fucking hard I couldn't not say anything anymore.
>>43650176Different anon, schizo.
>>43650178Sure you are
>>43650143>guy who can't read also can't writeNot really surprising but still funny.>Well what the fuck else it it supposed to imply you retard?Well, the thing that it says explictly, for a start.At most you could claim that it implies that he (you) have not watched the show. That's not a general statement across all anons on the board, or fans of other characters in general, just that his (your) dislike of fans of those characters on this board stems from the fact that they have watched the watched the show (and he (you) has not).>When these two can't even agree on what the actual events of an episode are, how in the hell does that scream "ah yes, they CLEARLY watched the show" to you?Well one of them is talking about the content of the episodeAnd the other isn'tSo that sort of implies that one of them has watched the show and the other hasn't, doesn't it?
>>43650182>>43650183Samefag
>>43650184It's kind of funny that people only claim that when I'm not actually samefagging
>>43650183>>guy who can't read also can't writeAlright, well since you wanna nitpick grammar here, you spelt 'explicitly' wrong. I expect your pinkie knuckle in the mail in a week.>Well, the thing that it says explictly, for a start.Which is that 'you don't like people who watch the show' which would imply that anyone who doesn't line up with those positions doesn't watch the show. Which leads me to the assumption that you are a ponk/flutterfag, especially since in a follow up post you assert anyone from those groups must watch the show, and you know because you watched it.
>>43650212>Which is that 'you don't like people who watch the show' which would imply that anyone who doesn't line up with those positions doesn't watch the show.No it doesn't.If you said you don't like fencers and I said it was because they were left handed, that wouldn't mean that all people that are not fencers are not left handed. It would just mean that I think the reason why you dislike fencers as a group has to do with the higher emphasis of the sinister manus among them.
>>43650232Problem is we're on a board that's about the show in question. So your fencing analogy still shows off how dumb your statement was, because it's basically akin to asserting that the reason I don't like fencers is because they're left handed... when I myself am left handed, in a club for left handed people. It's a completely asinine line that's so obviously stupid when you stop and think about it for more than a few seconds.
>>43650251>he thinks that /mlp/ has watched the showAnon a single digit % of the posts here are literally someone bragging about not having seen the showPlus you know, just look at this thread. Faggots that are unable to parse things that are literally on the screen (such as yourself) are incapable of actually consuming media in the first place.
>>43650255>Faggots that are unable to parse things that are literally on the screen (such as yourself) are incapable of actually consuming media in the first place.See, again. Back to 'if you don't share my exact tastes, you didn't watch the show'. Which is indeed what you think because you already baselessly established earlier that anyone here who's a ponk, flutter, or rarifag has watched the show, in short because they share your taste.
>>43619594Her job is important because nobody else is doing it and her brother is a bum so i don't blame her for thinking he sucks also yes she's hot
>>43644322Gemmy vid, thank you, 'non.>>43644368
>Seeing the Fluttershy slavekink debate>beme, (((griffin)))Included Parties:the Element of Magic, Princesses of Friendship, Acting Judge of Rainbow Falls Exchange, Twilight Sparkle, ("TS")The Element of Loyalty Rainbow Dash, ("RD")The Element of Kindness Fluttershy, ("FS")Teddy Safari, ("the Vendor")Dispute: 1)FS was involuntarily exchanged into Forced Labor and Restricted Liberty, ("Slavery").Factual and Proceedings Background:1)>The Vendor: "If [RD] can get [the Vendor] [the Animal], [the Vendor] will trade [the Book] for [the Animal]" (~5:08).2)>The Vendor: "(sic) I'll trade ya. (read: the Vendor will trade the Animal for the Book), if [FS] comes and stays with us (read: the Vendor and the Animal) in Manehattan until [the Animal is] trained" (~17:17).3.1)FS agrees to the latter provision, after stating the long duration required for training the Animal at ~17:30:3.2)>FS: "But if that is what [RD] really wants" (~17:39).4)As such the following can be concluded as the Terms of "The Exchange":The Vendor relinquish her copy (the first edition) of "Daring Do and the Sapphire Statue", ("the Book"), to RD in exchange for an Orthros, ("the Animal"), and for FS to stay with the Vendor until the Animal is trained, ("FS's Taming Services").5)>RD: "Oh no. What did I do?" (~17:58)6)>RD: "There's no thing that's worth as much to me as a friend ... Which means there's no way [The Exchange] can be fair" (~19:33).7)TS gives RD TS's copy of the Book at ~21:10.Analysis:1)Plaintiff argues that FS was sold into Slavery, and that FS was forced or coerced by RD to be used as payment in The Exchange. 2)Plaintiff also states that RD only wished to void The Exchange once TS gave RD TS's copy of the Book, arguing that the Slavery aspect of The Exchange had to be made void by TS. (Defendant made a comment of TS "cleaning up [RD's] mess")3)Plaintiff shows multiple screenshots and screencaps from the episode to make and prove various arguments, but I have yet so see any such shown that were not outright different scenes from what the Plaintiff was arguing. For the sake of brevity, most arguments and all screen-shots/caps are made null and void. 4)Defendant argues that FS, and FS providing her Taming Services, did agree, and didn't disagree, to be used as a form of payment in The Exchange, and that FS's Taming Services did not constitute Slavery.
>>43651548A.1, A.3, A.4)Fluttershy formally agreed to have her services used as a part for RD's and the Vendor's exchange (FPBg.3.2).The terms state no ownership of the pony as a whole, and are akin to a contractor's living arrangements being provided for by the employer for the duration of the contract (FPBg.2, FPBg.4).A.2)TS only gave RD TS's copy of the Book long after the Exchange was void (FPBg.7), RD did not show the knowledge of the existence of TS's copy of the Book, which means this argument has no basis for either the Plaintiff or the Defendant.A.3) RD's only problem with The Exchange was FS's long stay away, thus severing the friendship, not the permanent sale of FS to the Vendor (FPBg.3.1, FPBg.5, FPBg.6).Conclusion:Fluttershy was NOT sold into Slavery. I took the bait hook, line, and sinker.
>>43651548Your honor were you aware that there is pony ass behind you?
I really just spent 3 hours on >>43648554 and >>43648571 schitzo-babble...Maybe I need 2 full time jobs, having just one is giving me too much free time for ts
>>43651562Bailiff, attempt to sieze her for the duration of the trial. I do not wish to be>rape'd mid trial.
>>43651548>>43651551The matter is settled in favor of the defendant! The plaintiff is ordered to watch the show.*bonk*
>>43651548>>43651551I ain't reading all that, but here's my thoughts on the proceedings.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK4XhR0lYlE
>>43645280Pinkie got hit with the flanderization stick, but Twilight got hit with the "we need to erase you of all interesting personality because you need to be the main character now" stick
>>43652412>the only personality twilight fans saw in her was her hoity toity snarkCan't blame them really, that's literally Twilight's only redeeming factor in the early seasons. Apart from that she was less interesting and more one-note than her friends.
>>43652401>picMe half way to gathering all of the arguments from both sides
>>43645701>Equestria is a right-wing paradiseChuds here would ruin their experience in Equestria with the same asocial behaviors that alienated them on Earth in the first place.>>43647257She stopped a trade that broke the rules because Twilight didn't really want the broken pen. The "attack" was just a humorous gag of Pinkie scaring the filly into not snitching that Twilight "almost broke the rules". The "bidding war" was just her playing a character in order to get the most offers and thus the highest chance of Twilight getting something she actually wanted. The only thing this shows is she is a bootlicker for rules but that doesn't really fit her character, does it?
>>43653491I have that exact same .GIF from /b/ack in the day. What's up nigger?
>>43653506one look at this thread and i miss times when 2014 was the cancer we had to worry aboutfeeling the same?
>>43653553Yeah, I do. Sometimes I wish we could all just>go backhonestly. I recognize how long it's been, and yet 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 feel like just a dream that happened just yesterday. Then from 2016 onward to me it all feels like it's melted together. Somehow we're all still here though, in this place that time forgot. I don't know. It's cold but pleasant to stand outside and look up at the Moon.
>>43620067>in reality, a fascistleftist troons are the fascists now though, so you're still retarded
>>43653804>fascism is when mentally ill nobodies online are whiny and entitledFascinating political theory anonThat said I agree with >>43653553 I'm so sick of election tourists and mlpol bullshit in general. We thought we had it bad in 2014 but little did we know how bad things would get. The worst part is I'll probably be saying the same thing about 2026 ten years from now, if this site even exists at that point.
I just want to cum inside Rarity for Celestia's sake.
>>43619574and they're both voiced by andrea (libman)
>>43653992>(((libman)))
>>43619594Weak bait.Everything you said was wrong. We know this because we watched the show and you didn't.
>>43619574is this the flutterpie thread? Do you have Pinkie Pie kissing Fluttershy?
>>43654962
>>43655016Blessed. That's getting saved into my Cute and Canon folder.
>>43619574>projecting human ideologyslop on ponies>>43620067>projecting human ideologyslop on ponies because lazy ass writers>>43631038>>43631206>boring useless ideologyslop mental gymnastics
>>43655118Don't forget the two retards arguing about slavery without watching the show and the bigger retard that wrote a court case for it.
wow now that's fucking samefagging
>>43655856
>>43619574>Applejack's opinion of the village
>>43656267Even causing chaos, she's still a sweetheart.
>>43656267Society...
Fluttershy subscribes to whatever political ideology I want her to. Simple as.
>>43659484communist? cringe.
>>43661365No, both I and Flutters are staunch Neo-Libertarian Falangists
>>43619574Ponies?
