Lamers12345

>>43647944
>OP pic isnt mares
It's over

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My WIFE and her greasy, slimy, unwashed sulfurous fart spewing ponut!

>>43647953
faggot

>>43647975
we're gonna have stallions and dandy for the next two episodes, obviously there's no amres in the OP image.
that's two weeks for mare tamers to cook up something new. it's win-win.

Mares tonight?

>>43648086
Nope, new Stallion episode.

Just watched DoTS with the 2024 anni chat replay again
Still just as kino as I remember it, literally every scene works, literally every joke hits, it's incredibly dense and has a bunch of amazing moments, pure kinography
I've rewatched it like this probably a half dozen times already and it's still just as good each time

>>43648199
How has it been two years of Tamers MLP already. Time flies by man.

https://x.com/TheTamers12345/status/2113638343946682471

It's so over

...is tamers gay AND retarded?

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Mari~

>>43648273
Why is everything fucking burning down this last week, like holy shit it's back to back to back.

>>43648335
its just one day relax

>>43648355
No, we're in the doom cycle now.

>>43647944
kirin sexo

>started watching tamers in 2024 with the first MLP episodes
>eventually every episode becomes ultra cringe anime / slasher shit and it's ruined
>he starts making dandy's world stuff and I like it
>dandy's world becomes ultra cringe slasher shit and it's ruined
sonic underground is the only good tamers content now

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>>43648270
>finally get a Friday off to watch a premiere
>delayed to a worknight
Damn.

Is Tamers style content considered problematic? Although there are obviously racist and homophobic dogwhistles for comedic effect, Tamers is clearly gay himself and the stories are always about "forbidden love" triumphing over oppressors. My favorite moment is Celestia's love for Twilight overriding her hatred towards homosexuality, it's so nonsensical yet sincere. Just curious to ponder how wokies view this series or if it's a complete paradox to them.

>>43648808
Fetishes just spiral like that. Tamers is really leaning into the violence kink the past year or so. Yaoi tamers obviously much more so.

>>43647944
Another thread to hide.

>>43648901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZMZTaxNKJs

>>43648842
I would describe it as darkwoke, which is kind of a joke term but it is what it is. The offensive humor is clearly ironic after all, while a lot of the queer romance/drama is played fairly straight.

It's definitely problematic to a lot of woke people who clutch their pearls over slurs and problematic shipping, so those people are filtered out, but it also filters out chuds who hate all the gay stuff. So you end up with fans who tend to be a bit in the middle I think, on average at least.

>>43648842
For me, it varies pretty heavily. The homophobia is pretty uniformly well done, even the more out-there characters are portrayed with a minimum level of dignity that helps the satire land. Frankly, I can't say the same about the racism. You can take my discomfort with a grain of salt, because I'm not part of the affected population, but the way that tamers treats its black characters gives me a lot more misgivings.
My biggest criticism is that they're never really allowed to be happy about it. The gay characters consistently find joy in their identity, even when they're actively being oppressed, and get to express themselves, but being black only seems to make characters suffer. This applies mostly to the yuri episodes, although yaoi has had a couple moments like that too. So even if the racists end up as the butt of the jokes (which isn't always the case), there's this undercurrent of misery following his black characters that makes their characterization feel far less even handed than the gay ones. A lot of the jokes uncritically parrot stereotypes as the punchline, and don't really do anything to challenge the things he implies he wants to be challenging. It ends up feeling mean-spirited at worst and sloppy at best.
The Asian racism is about the same quality, although mercifully it's a lot rarer, and because we never see any asian characters actually on-screen we never get any scenes where the stereotypes are actually affirmed, which keeps it more ambiguous. The Mexican jokes about Belle are probably the best executed out of all the race jokes I've seen because he gets to have positive experiences about it, even if it's something as ridiculous as cooking fajitas to escape a kidnapping. It's silly and stereotypical, but it's not just meaningless torment and I have to give him credit for it.
>>43648938
The problematic shipping definitely filters people out but I'm skeptical of whether it actually aligns that strongly to the woke/chud axis. Some of the slurs give me pause, although not the gay ones. I approve of how they're used, but I think he could stand to be a lot more thoughtful about the other ones. They don't really work in the same way for me because of how differently he treats the characters.

>>43648842
>dogwhistles
I don't think he's trying to falsify any opinion polls by maliciously optimizing word choices for maximal confusion. Or radicalize any pre-conditioned cells behind the majority's back. Or market any well-known derangements as hip underground things that require their own Masonic handshakes. His depictions are blunt as fuck, with none of the wink-wink nudge-nudge pretense that I believe most people who talk negatively about dogwhistling have in mind.

>>43648947
I mean the base message behind the racism joke stuff is "black ponies are disprivileged and their lives suck because of it" so I don't really see it as racist in a real sense, it'd be more racist if they complained about it but then actually were totally fine and making their oppression up (which reminds me of Mari, but that's a different conversation). He certainly does do stereotype jokes but I feel like that's not really such a big deal, especially when the stereotypes are mostly harmless stuff like fried chicken and grape soda.

Funny to be having a discussion like this on this board, usually people feel the need to be as edgy as possible whenever any form of bigotry comes up. Perhaps tamers is woke after all.

>>43648947
For all the shit black characters get, it was nice seeing Shining beat the shit out of Spike for calling his daughter a nigger. When not long afterwards, Shining gets an n-word pass and he treats it like a valuable gift.
There's also the pony racism which is more understandable since unicorns are pretty universally the most powerful and tyrannical of the pony types, pegasi are the biggest assholes, and earth ponies are the most inbred and retarded, so they all receive flak based on their actual traits related to their "race."

>>43648966
>Perhaps tamers is woke after all.
Tamers has done more for the marginalized community than 99% of proponents simply because he treats his characters like people, flaws and all, and not just one-dimensional "boo hoo I'm oppressed fuck white/straight people!"

>>43648966
>Black ponies are disprivileged and their lives suck because of it
I think this misses the nuance of what the story could be. To go back to my comparison of the gay characters, they are also disprivileged, and they get hate crimed, and terrible things happen to them because of who they are, but their identity is also a source of joy. It gives them a support network, it shapes their identities, and it's an important part of their life. This is realistic, and relatable, and in my experience it's a big part of why the show is so positively viewed by the gay people that see it. But in real life, the same is also true of black people. They have community, and their culture and identity is important to them. But in tamers, it gets repeatedly flattened to just something they get hate for. 13420 is the prime example of this for me. White ponies hate her because she's mixed-race. Changelings hate her because she's mixed race. She hates herself because she's mixed race. Even when tamers wants to give her a sweet moment with shining armor, he can't help but slip in some additional microaggressions even though she spends 80% of her screen time being judged for her race. The only time she gets to be happy are in scenes where her race is not mentioned in any way. It's nice that the racism is usually punished, but it gives me a bad feeling when the show constantly implies, even unintentionally, that being black is only suffering.
>>43648992
I'm sorry but you are not going to convince me that an n-word pass joke isn't racist

>>43649002
Well he seems more inspired by Japanese yuri rather than western mainstream queer media, which similarly tends to place the emphasis on the humanity of the characters rather than on idpol crap, so it makes sense that he writes that way.

>>43649005
>White ponies hate her because she's mixed-race. Changelings hate her because she's mixed race. She hates herself because she's mixed race. Even when tamers wants to give her a sweet moment with shining armor, he can't help but slip in some additional microaggressions even though she spends 80% of her screen time being judged for her race.
Wow she's just like me... I- ...Thank you Tamers. For making me feel seen.

>>43649026
nta, but i think rather than a direct anime inspiration, it's probably more of an echo of what all the weebs on deviantart and ao3 were doing.
that is where he started back in the day after all.
at least it's not the same kind of weebery i'd expect to see on /a/.

>>43649035
Can you shapeshift into Michael Jackson?

>>43649048
I mean, yuri manga doesn't really follow the sort of weebery on /a/ either, or at least the weebery I remember being there when I last frequented the board...12 years ago or so. Maybe things have changed.
That being said I know he does watch normal anime as well because there are lots of references, and not just to obvious stuff like Madoka. For instance, career day was full of Mitsudomoe references, which is a relatively deep cut in 2026, so I think he probably has watched a decent amount.

>>43649064
Almost died when Sonia said nigger. Wound up on the floor and seeing stars.
What an amazing episode.

>>43648842
I don't think Yuri tamers is gay

>>43648842
>Is Tamers style content considered problematic?
I don't care as long as it's entertaining because I'm not a /pol/tard.

>>43648842
most instances of -isms in mlp and dandy tamers, while usually played for laughs, strike me as a shockingly realistic depiction of how it feels to grow up in shitfuck nowhere as a gay retard or someone who gets called that a lot.
you can look at other queer representation in media and while they're not usually without friction, i can't think of any that actually show how meaningless, casual and ubiquitous racism, homophobia etc. are in places that aren't urban middle class neighborhoods where everyone was taught from a young age that other cultures or sexual orientations are cool too and those people deserve respect as much as anyone else.
look at the kinds of conversations steven universe or bluey get to have and compare that to your own childhood. does that actually feel relatable?

if you have never spent years of your youth in friend groups, small towns and around dinner tables where people just randomly blurt out the most racist, homophobic ableist evil shit, while everyone else just kinda doesn't care and you just have to sit there and smile and nod as well if you want to be part of the only friend group you get to pick from, or if you don't want to raise a fuss at a family gathering or at the grocery store or wherever, that's unironically a privilege you had and i didn't.

i hate the 2010's fake buzzfeed type of woke and its language with a burning passion, but if you as a leftist think you're morally superior for not being able to relate to the kinds of bigotry shown in tamers animations you need to check your privilege.
oh your friends and family and teachers and neighbors were all woke since you were a kid, and everyone accepted you for who you were and encouraged you to explore your identity?
good for you, asshole.

>>43648365
I will explain my thoughts on that later when i have more than a virtual keyboard.
>>43648199
>anni chat replay
Source?
>>43648874
Joke not a sex thing.

If nothing else I can say Tamers depiction of being an autistic kid in a poor family is extremely realistic.

>>43649406
This is a very good synopsis of my general opinion of the setting. It feels potentially autobiographical, and it definitely rings true as something I've experienced before. However, I think it still tends to fall short when tamers tries to write characters that are not entirely within that autobiographical bubble. The less like himself the characters are, the less sympathy the narrative shows for them. A very good example of this is Chrysalis, in Sweetie Belle in Love. Tamers is obviously aware that racism is wrong, and there's a great bit where Cadance loses his shit over a changeling just taking out some garbage, and then has to stand there while everyone stares at him. However, immediately after this, you get a portrayal of Chrysalis that is so loaded with racist imagery that it's difficult for me to understand how I'm even supposed to interpret it. She lives in a dilapidated house that she refuses to clean, having dozens of children just for welfare benefits, and eats fried chicken. And then a drive by happens. This isn't subversive writing by any means, it's all extremely bog standard racist propaganda. It feels more like it was written by a tamers character than by tamers himself. Every time I watch it I try to see if it really has anything interesting to say, but I keep coming away with nothing but that the punchline is that the racism itself is funny, and the characters are irrelevant. It's so much more of a mean spirited scene than anything else in the episode, and certainly more cruel than any portrayal of homosexuality and homophobia I've seen in his work. Maybe there's something I missed, or maybe I'm rating it too harshly, but from my perspective it leaves the territory of commenting on racism in america and just becomes the racism.

>>43649559
Imo the humor just comes from seeing real world racism in My Little Pony, two things that share nothing in common. Also a single black mother eating fried chicken and shitting out children solely for welfare benefits while living in a neighborhood with frequent drive by shootings isn't racist, you're racist and dare I say privileged for refusing to acknowledge the fact that this is actually an extremely common reality.

>>43649559
I think the problem is that you're actually retarded and shallow pandering like the yaoi series goes for is more your speed
>Chrysalis is a racist stereotype
Chrysalis is also one of the main villains of the setting. It's essentially a boondocks joke and she's essentially a boondocks villain - Chrysalis is the vortex of destructive 'black' culture that drags so many changelings down. She's the evil influence in the community. That's not being black, that's being Chrysalis. The fact that being like Chrysalis is literally represented in MLP: FiM by changelings being black is the cherry on top.
>I keep coming away with nothing but that the punchline is that the racism itself is funny, and the characters are irrelevant
Because you don't care about MLP and are looking for a reason to call it racist rather than taking what's actually presented. The main problem in #13420's life isn't that she's black, though she'd probably identify that as being near the top of the list because she's been taught to. The main problem in her life is that her mom is Chrysalis, and the main source of commentary on the importance of race that she's exposed to is Chrysalis. You're blaming the show for the actions of an explictly villainous character as if they're reflective of the creator's values.

As a latino I must say. Trixiebelle has nothing going on as far as actual latino stereotypes go. It comes across as strangely moderate compared to the way he portrays other sectors.

>>43649587
That's an interesting idea, it's too bad the show doesn't have any interest in examining it. The changelings are under similar pressures that real life communities are, except that the people making the racist laws are a lot more explicit about it in MLP. There really isn't much textual evidence to support the idea that Chryssy is exporting her worldview to the other changelings in a way that makes their lives worse. The things she says do appear to have an effect on her daughter, but we see Shining armor saying basically the same shit later, and ponies are the dominant culture, so I don't think it's reasonable to claim that it started with her. What I find myself presented with is an extremely unflattering caricature of a black woman who is barely surviving while under somebody else's boot, but despite this the majority of the problems are being framed as her fault either in whole or in part. Like I said before, I don't think tamers is some super racist boogeyman. I just think he is capable of creating something racist despite that.
>>43649584
Welfare queens literally aren't real. Everything else is something that happens in real life, but intentionally layering them on a single character makes me question the writer's intentions.

>>43649559
the most charitable thing i could come up with for that chrysalis scene would be that it's less about her and more about 13420 getting the triple short end of the stick as a mixed race child by being too black to avoid racism from white people, too white for the black people she'll have to grow up around (which i have heard is a real issue in black communities, but i'm too european to really have any first hand accounts of that and our ethnic minorities, even the black people here, don't map 1:1 onto american racial relations), and also having to grow up in a shitty neighborhood with an overwhelmed single mom.
the last part especially isn't done very elegantly if that was the point, but viewing the scene from 13420's perspective and understanding it as being empathetic to mixed race kids in black neighborhoods and families makes it a bit less of a dull regurgitation of racist cliches.

also correct me if i'm wrong, but i've heard black dads in the projects are or have been systemically encouraged to leave their families because a 2 parent household doesn't qualify for social housing as easily as a single mother one, and even being seen near your estranged wife and children can be enough for that to happen.
a depiction of a black single mother with several children dependent on social housing and snap isn't racist and callous on its own.
disregarding the reasons for why black fathers abandon their children and mocking it as a weakness of character is.
i think he could've done better with that scene, but i also think he's genuinely trying harder than he used to.

most racism jokes i can think of off the top of my head in SU were a lot less empathetic than what he's putting out now.
the chinese restaurant episode was funny as hell though. sue me.

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>>43649628
This is bait, right? You're seemingly able to reasonably discuss things but then you'll turn around and post stark assertions that seemingly only serve to start fights if people take the obvious bait or to allow you to dismiss entire sections of the work in bald defiance of the actual sociocultural context that you're trying to discuss it in relation to.
>That's an interesting idea, it's too bad the show doesn't have any interest in examining it.
Because it's not really the topic of the show? Tamers has boondocks-like humor (and for similar reasons, he's a nerdy black dude writing a vulgar cartoon) but racial stuff like that isn't the main topic of the series or even a secondary one. Cadance and Chrysalis are handled with a deft hoof and have pretty consistent characterizations, Shining too (especially around #13420), and they all work together in a pretty coherent way.

>>43649647
13420 is definitely the focus. I wish it was done better, because conceptually I like her a lot as a character, but most of her scenes don't have her reacting to her circumstances in a way that gives her any depth.
>a depiction of a black single mother with several children dependent on social housing and snap isn't racist and callous on its own.
I agree, it's the part where she specifically says she's having kids to get benefits that makes me dislike it so much. Ironically, the fact that she's single never even really crossed my mind as a problem because tamers never uses it as a pejorative about her or 13420. It's like the single most respectful part of their characterization. I don't actually know whether or not dads being encouraged to leave their families via benefit qualifications is true, unfortunately.
>the chinese restaurant episode was funny as hell though. sue me.
Nah, you get to live.

Series shows rapists, pedophiles, necrophiles, homophobes, and physical abusers in a good light but the moment a racist stereotype shows up then it's problematic.

I think the problem is that characters like Celestia who are homophobic are still shown to have a good heart. She genuinely cares for Twilight and thinks she's doing good for her, even if it means locking her in a dog cage during her developmental years. But Chrysalis is not only a nigger but also a villain and the only good thing to have spawned from her is the result of a white man's seed being pumped into her. There's also Apple Split who is even more awful than his murder psycho bf because he just wants to be a whiny cunt murder psycho slut in public.

>>43649716
I don't think any of those are portrayed in a particularly good light to the audience.
child abuse, pedophilia, necrophilia and physical abuse are usually played for shock value because they're so beyond the pale and removed from the viewer's personal lived reality.
kirin isn't written in a way to appeal to necrophiliacs or to convince the viewer it's ok to defile corpses.
chrysalis is kinda written in a very negative way. but also in a very irl black way. you're supposed to dislike her as a person. for traits that are mostly just irl black cliches.

also just to be clear, i still like chrysalis and her absolutely racially fetishized 'relationship' with shining and cadence..
i just don't think i could explain myself as easily to people on bluesky as i could for absolutely anything else in tamers mlp.

>>43649587
So there's a bit of a problem, with things like tamers and boondocks. I think it's basically agreed, as much as anything is agreed, that the boondocks is lit. It does humor about racism and stereotypes about as well as I can even imagine, because it's the best I know of. I got a friend who's grandma is like, racist. Mine is too, but is quite a bit less likely to willingly speak on "the blacks", so it's less likely to come up. This friend of mine also likes the boondocks. I don't think of him as personally racist, though he's a bit comfortable with the n word.

One day, I shared with him a clip from the boondocks, and found that we got very different things out of it. To him, the way he described it, it was a depiction of black people being violent. This is technically correct. Like someone can see chrysalis as a depiction of a poor black who's rancid and ignorant, and that's correct. But, the difference here, is that he's seeing that interpretation, and he's specifically enjoying it BECAUSE it matches that steriotype. It is, to him, a delightful effigy.

You can imagine someone who views chrysalis as the same kind of effigy, a totem designed specifically to let one meditate on the idea of a rancid black, as opposed to just a depiction which happens to match all those details. That's a problem. But, the thing is, you can't actually stop people from applying that perspective. There is no "right way" to show a poor black mother, or a tall black basketballer. There is also no "right way" to put a representation of the delusional perception of a racist into your art, at all. No matter what you do, they will look at that depiction which you've carefully made, ignore any messages you might attempt to make about how absurd and false that depiction is, and then believe in it.

And it's important. It's important to represent the false understandings of the target audience within fiction. If you do not, then there is nothing they can learn from you, ever, and that also means you won't be interesting. Because, interesting things involve people's invested beleifs.

So is the boondocks evil because racists reinforce their racism when looking at it?
Is there a right way to do it?

Well, maybe. The boondocks writer, low key, does actually believe in some stereotypes. Maybe it would help if that wasn't the case.

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>>43649792
>i just don't think i could explain myself as easily to people on bluesky
And why the fuck do you think that we need to suffer you in this thread? Truly the yaoi tamers OP has delivered us into a cursed age.

>>43649807
I like to look for how characters are treated in the whole work. It's easier for me to trust that the boondocks are depicting negative black stereotypes in good faith because it has a large cast of nuanced black characters. Tamers doesn't have that luxury. Neither Tamers nor Boondocks is "evil", though, because I genuinely believe that neither of them set out with the intent to cause harm.

>>43649716
Tamers actually put some guy on blast (in yt comments) for saying that he related to Starlight and was happy to see a depiction of someone like her in one of her episodes lol
They're not shown in a good light. You're just not asked to pretend that they don't have internal motivations and feelings even though they are evil.

>>43649899
Which episode? Is it still up? I kinda want to see it lol

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>>43649899
Found it, it's on Abyss

>>43649898
>a large cast of nuanced black characters
pick one and name them

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>>43649917
I swear it was on Chuck E Cheese but Chuck E Cheese is down so I can't check. It'd be really funny if it happened twice tho
Great reaction either way

>>43649322
Yuri Tamers comes off as a guy who is bisexual, but doesn't like that he is, so he feminizes all of the guys he wants to fuck

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>>43650201
Yuri tamers is a mare

>>43650220
You can't spell Tamers without trans mares amirite

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>>43649878
first the incest porn, and now this

https://x.com/Britanon_/status/2113704525777514585

I laugh when Tamers uses audio from other not related videos that sound nothing like the character it's playing ovet just as a gag.
>Celestia speaks
>Yea, I was gonna say something about how that's common sense, but we gotta tell ppl not to eat tyepods.

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>>43650277
From Trixie gets fired

>>43650259
Hopefully Fwaless becomes like a secret underground currency/sign of the resistance.
>Child tickets
ehhh, I thought we'd learned to not let children anywhere near these things. Makes sense why they're being so strict.

>>43650325
Tamers is perfectly kid friendly. Just put on the Chinese Versions that cut out all the swearing, poop, faggot shit, and blood and gore and you got yourself some fine family entertainment.

>>43650332
Does it also cut out the dyke shit?

>>43650340
Lesbians are child friendly. If anything gay couples throw kids off the scent of figuring out how sex works, thus maintaining their innocence.

>>43649878
Imagine if tamers sees this and makes another unicorn con video where they ban Flawless from attending

>>43650361
I'm guessing it's because she represents having two moms and unicorns are homophobic

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>>43650325
Fwaless

>>43650357
Maybe that would be the case if they weren't serial groomers and molesters

>>43650259
>source: random /mlp/ thread OP with no official links
oh its nothing, its retards taking the bait because they love convention drama

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>no premiere
Its over.................

>>43651149
let him cook. he's putting in crunchtime

>>43650690
I checked the official page and couldn't find anything about banning tamers or anything related to the image

Also they mention a Flawless product in their 2025 Charity Report

>>43650259
>completely made up and easy to verify troll post on an account with less than 300 followers got that many people taking the bait
damn. i'm not even mad, i'm jealous.

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>>43651149
Six hours to go

Will the Future Soarin question be addressed?

https://youtu.be/Pd2HXueXugU

So will half the animation be noticeably lower quality if he's redoing it in like 24 hours?

>>43651491
The drawings themselves would already be done, he just needed to put them together again

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>bongistan

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>>43651489
>mfw the recommended videos are mostly hate mongering and disrespectful behaviors for views
YouTube is so awful now....

>>43651560
>he fell for the bait and didn't even see that someone else in the thread already posted it as well

Do you guys think Tamers poos his undies when animating so he doesn't have to get up?

>>43651695
maybe back in the day, but now that he's making big patreon bucks and had to crank up his animation output to 11, it's more likely he pays someone else to shit in his underwear because it's more efficient. that way he can fully focus on his craft.

>>43651695
Why don't you ask him?

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>>43651715
maybe i will bitch

>>43651695
He probably animates on the toilet

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So... The last episode isn't archived yet. Odd.
I guess the Dandy's pony is lost media now.

>>43651875
Tamersarchive has it he just seems to wait to add stuff to the archive until it's not the newest episode any more, probably to try not to steal too many views from Tamers.

>>43651875
why was there a dandy pony in a mare video?

>>43651879
He said that he waits at least a week to upload something to the archive iirc
But it's been two weeks.

>>43651888
Two more weeks!

>>43651883
The most likely possibilities (in my opinion), in no particular order:

A) Mare tamers and stallion tamers still collaborate, on some level, and stallion tamers drew the dandy pony into the scene, which mare tamers didn't like
B) Mare tamers drew the dandy pony as a reference, but later regretted it due to some implication, possibly not wanting to be affiliated or conflated with their brother
C) Both brothers have a shared folder of background ponies to fill out crowd shots, and Mare tamers took a dandy pony from it without realizing
D) The dandy pony was inserted and removed specifically to drum up controversy.

>>43651927
>The dandy pony was inserted and removed specifically to drum up controversy.

This. They're just playing with our minds...

>>43651927
Or maybe it's just a cheeky reference and there is no grand conspiracy, you autist?

>>43651927
>D) The dandy pony was inserted and removed specifically to drum up controversy.
Sometimes I wonder if he actually is just one guy pretending to be two guys pretending to be one guy and his machinations simply know no bounds.

>>43651927
D is the most likely imo. I feel like they play into the brother wars stuff for their own amusement and it wouldn't be too out of character for them.

>>43651927
What about
E) Since Dandy videos get lots of views, Mare Tamers will want to take over the series and have the views to himself/

>>43651875
This was from the trick or treating episode? Damn I watched it late, was it a whole scene or something?

>>43652094
This wouldn't accomplish that

>>43651927
I forgot
E) Mare tamers put it in as a reference, and stallion tamers asked him to remove it.

>>43652094
Don't forget F:

Mare Tamers and Dandy Tamers have gross incest sex and everything they put in their videos is actually a simulacrum of their actual life.

>>43652170
And G:

Mare Tamers and Dandy Tamers have hot incest sex and everything they put in their videos is actually a simulacrum of their actual life.

>>43652304
What he doing over dere

>>43652371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyGvqmbmGo4

>>43652179
H: tamers is actually a speaking name, and all animations he ever published were never made by him and his bro, but the wild monkeys they taught how to use the curved line tool in mspaint, and this whole channel split business is secretly about who gets to keep the best monkeys and who needs to pay for the monkeys' little caesar's hot'n'ready pizzas, which despite their phenomenal value do add up pretty quickly considering the amount of monkeys required to make a single episode

>>43652424
oh and cheap frozen pizzas don't do it for them. they get feisty and start deleting parts of the episode in protest RIGHT BEFORE THE FUCKING PREMIERE

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I feel like the long gaps between stallion episodes has done them a favor. I used to somewhat resent stallion episodes for taking time away from mare episodes but now it's been long enough for Dandy's World to catch that fade instead and I begin to wonder what the gay ponies are up to lately. I'd still prefer mare tamers (or Sonic Underground) but having large gaps of time for the side shows is helpful.

>>43652457
what are the best two or three stallion episodes, according to you?

>>43652465
Twilight and Friends Get Stuck in a Porta Potty
Fluttershy's Hot Pot Party
INFECTION

roflmao
This is easily the best stallion episode in a long time

>ooohh my life is so tragic~
LMAO
this is the funniest Clean Sweep has ever been

What Tamers episode made you ROFL most

BRUH tamers stole our calling Care Package CP joke!!

RATE THE EPISODE!!

>>43652702
7.6/10

>>43652702
8/10
I was worried after the last few stallion episodes, but yaoi tamers still has it

>>43652702
I give it a necrophilia/crossover

>>43652702
10 out of 10
Tamers has put out two 10 out of 10 MLP episodes in a row, for both mare and and stallion timelines.

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>>43652702
I'm speechless

>>43652702
that's an 8 for me too.
the old man dating app subplot was fun, soarin and braeburn had a nice moment together, and most importantly arinos looked really cute in that outfit.
also does anyone know what voice he used for rainbow dash? that's not the shouty i know.

>>43652702
wut/10

>>43650690
Its from ukponycon's volunteer handbook
https://u.pone.rs/evxgkvvh.pdf

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>>43652722
KOH! I NEED YOU KOH!!!!

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>>43652734
I'm going insane dude
His version looks better imo
Holy cow

>old pic from last year

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>>43652702
COMPLETELY INCOMPREHENSIBLE/10

Stallion Tamers still has it, that was his best episode in a long time.

>>43652702
>Boring
>Stallions
>No 13420
>No Flawless
2/10 at least there was no Trixiebelle

Do we think Tamers actually needs the money or was the intro just ordinary patreon shilling?

>>43652732
wtf, they put that into the volunteer's manual but not on the banned item's list on their website that attendees are going to look at before coming?
they don't announce that in advance, they just plan on popping up behind anyone with a tamers plush and kick them out for breaching a secret rule they told nobody about?

>>43652746
I don't think he does, no. Unless something actually did happen behind the scenes.

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>>43652702
>Stallion timeline did a crossover with Dogman, Descendants, Dandy's World and Katseye in a single episode before Mare's timeline

>>43652702
Probably one of my favorite Stallion episodes now, I laughed my ass off.

>>43648901
Gollytranny can't into filters lul

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WE'RE CANON. i was kinda hoping it would be during or after PK's redemption arc or whatever but WHO CARES, WE'RE CANON. Last Laugh reality warper shit aside. also, Parcel Core's a baby again? There is much to speculate about.

>>43652702
This episode was packed with so much stuff happening at once. It added to the episode's weirdness, especially now that it is hinted this stupid clown is toying with them and they are still stuck in piss-gray dimension. I don't think Sweep/Mac's D-plot worked all that well, and the amount of unnecessary info-dumping, exposition and Tamersplaining was ridiculous. I also don't like his ugly Vtuber model, holy fuck. But it was a solid 4/5 episode anyway. Good job! I am fine with Stallions episodes taking 1-2 months if they are all going to be of this length and quality.

>>43652798
>also, Parcel Core's a baby again
he's probably still encased in the apple caramel, which is actively rotting his teeth, crippling his vampire powers

why are the three pin badges on arinos' hat the same color as flawless? isn't that kinda weird? her mom is right there.

>>43652920
STOP STOP STOP I BEG YOU TO NOT FUEL MY DELUSIONS

>>43652920
wow, you're right. Are we sure this isn't a Christmas episode with how Tamers is throwing all the freaks a bone?

>>43652920
They met up in the mirror dimensions to share a pizza and drink some diet pepsi.

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>>43652920
I will not be deceived...

>>43653003
>Suri Polomare colors
Holy shit... Arinos x Suri?????

>>43653007
Suri is a cloth designer so maybe he just got them from her store.

>>43653014
>Arinos and Friendship visit Suri so she can patch up Friendship cuz he got a booboo

>>43653003
i could've sworn that small button was a bit more saturated than that and 1:1 mapped to the colors of the back of flawless mane. must be the contrast with the hat.

>>43653022
What frame?

I changeling done 13420 the least sexualized character to exist across all of Tamers work?

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>>43653028
i was going to say all of them, and it only looks desaturated in that other image because of the white background, but i just made this edit to "prove" my point and it looks even less saturated against the orange background.
there's a lot of good arinos frames this episode though. those socks with the holes in the back are crazy.

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>>43653063
I was just right about to post this frame. But also, he doesn't have a horn for most of the episode. That's new. Usually it's just the wings that get removed when he gets a new outfit.
Color theory does funny things sometimes.

>>43653000
*violently shakes my monitor*
WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF THESE?

>>43653177
It's me i've been creating them. I am studying Tamers' art.

>>43652702
Nothing as impactful as the dinner with mari's parents, but basically no scene in the whole episode was bad other than split being cringe, which was the point of that.

Hmm
Well,
Absolutely amazing the whole time would be a 10/10
One shining example of a really good bit while most of it is just good would be 9/10
Basically good the whole time with nothing exceptional is then 8/10
Middling with one really really good bit which lasted awhile would also 8/10, then.

So I guess this episode was 8/10, which also means that it's the same score as the Halloween episode and the breaking bad episode.

That's three 8s in a row, tamers is on fire, and broke.

>>43652707
It’s almost like actually making jokes instead of Vivziepop-like drama makes or boring anime battles for a better viewing experience.

I gotta give it to the gays-- they got good music lmao. Faggy as shit, but brety gud.

>a bunch of cameos from a bunch of different series and real life, even Sprout from Dandy’s World randomly shows up for the climax with no explanation
>absolutely zero SU characters show up
At least Bardonic is in the background, I guess. Looks like Underground fans are eating table scraps yet again. Better than Mare-Tamers outright making SU fanboys the villains in his series I guess.

>>43653581
>Better than Mare-Tamers outright making SU fanboys the villains in his series I guess.

Literally when?

>>43653583
Star swirl, Waltuh White, Manic.

>>43653606
Everyone is a Bardonic/SU fan. Twilight and Spike literally make fun of modern Sonic fans and praise Sonic Underground when they get trapped into the salt dimension. Flawless is the most powerful overpowered bitch and yet she runs at the sight of Bartleby because she knows her place.

>>43653581
>Better than Mare-Tamers outright making SU fanboys the villains in his series I guess
Stop making shit up, the only Sonic-centric villain in the Mare vids was that Modern Sonic fan who killed himself in the Salt Dimension in Monster High School.

>>43652702
Shit man I had to watch this whole thing over three breaks at my work, I feel like I need to watch it one more time before I go to bed so I can write my review/analysis because holy shit there was A LOT I noticed. I just need to watch Formula 1 COTA quali and drink four Natty Daddy tall ones (considering this was the daddy episode I feel it's appropriate) first and then I'll get back to you guys.

>>43653613
She ran because she wanted a piece of Trixie’s ass in the stands. She matched all of Bartleby’s feats in that episode and could take him if she really wanted to.

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What episodes of Tamers has the most action and fighting

>>43653682
Yet, she doesn't have "it". Curious.

>>43653683
Shattered Harmony probably has the best fight scenes.

>>43653581
>no explanation
Things are strange because the world they're in is not real. They've been trapped inside the world of wishes ever since Quarantine, and whatever simulated universe has sprouted up around them is having difficulty maintaining cohesion. Why Last Laugh seems to be the creator, or guardian, or caretaker of this universe remains to be seen, but he's clearly being set up as someone who knows something about their location and will probably be important to escaping it.

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What did he mean by this?

>>43653711
He made the same joke people have been doing here for months

>>43653625
The morality is super screwy in Tamers videos so villains don’t really exist but SU fans are now portrayed as delusional boomer losers who need to move the fuck on now. Yes Twilight, Trixie, and Spike are included in that delusional boomers list as they are super flawed characters and fanboying over some forgotten late 90’s cheap Sonic cartoon was supposed to be a lame moment for them. I don’t know how else you can interpret Bartleby (basically Tamers himself) beating the fuck out of Manic for asking when Sonic Underground is going to return as anything other than Tamers saying SU fans need to fuck off.

>>43653737
Ah, so it's a chip on your shoulder, yours specifically.
If an SU fan, or anyone really, decides to pester tamers to make MORE videos of the kind they specifically like
he farts on you
you are of stupid
be dunked upon
and fuck off

Twilight didn't do that shit, so twilight is fine.

>>43653683
Vs the boys

>>43653741
So SU fans are only supposed to exist if they don’t want more SU videos? You could hardly call them fans at that point. The message was pretty clear, Tamers isn’t for his old fans anymore. Either watch the new stuff or kick rocks.

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OH SWEET horse Yaoi!!!!!! On a Saturday?

>>43649471
we wil be watching tamers in 20 minutes
https://pink.horse/stream

>>43653741
When ever someone asks for more pony or dandy cartoons he goes “yeah I’m making more in the future :)”
When someone asks for more underground cartoons he basically tells them to suck his balls and farts in their face. It’s pretty clear what he actually thinks of underground fans.

>>43652742
>Stallions
>No 13420
>No Flawless
>He doesn't know

Is there a Sombra episode yet? Been on-and-off with watching Tamers but have been hoping for a Sombra-focused ep for a while

>>43654065
Yeah, cause he's making more in the future and is currently working on it.

Ok, do you know about the duck? Do you know about the duck that wants grapes? Do you know that that ducks is annoying, and being annoying is why that duck is funny? Do you know that there is nothing annoying about asking for grapes?

No, what is annoying is repeatedly asking about grapes from a source which is not selling grapes. Maybe someday they will be selling grapes, and on that occasion they will be glad to tell you about the grapes they are selling, but until then it simply isn't their business.

And if you do not see how this is comparable to asking tamers for more of the video you want to see instead of asking about more of the video he wants to be making currently, then as I said, you are of stupid.

I still have this thread hidden. Just thought I’d let everyone know that.

>>43654784
*Smushses you with my unwashed feeties that smell so bad the stench and visibly wafting off of them and killing all plant life around me*

>>43654784
Tsndere.

>>43654299
Always been a secondary side character at most but he made a small cameo in the latest episode.

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Here I am just appreciating that CP didn't kill anyone in this episode and he became a much character for it. He finally has something going on other than murdering innocent bystanders, its almost like having a real character arc is endearing.

*much better

>>43654820
I don't care for character stuff, i simply find it cute.

>>43654820
I was thinking the same thing

>>43653683
As other anons said, VS the Boys and Shattered Harmony
World War 3 was kind of like the Avengers and has few fight sgenes, evens tamers12345 had an action moment
The ponies fighting the Powerpuff girls in Flawless Farts
Oh, and of course, Fluttershy using the legendary attack Death by Stinky Winds in the bowling episode

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Stimming

>>43655091
BOINGY BOINGY BOINGY BOINGY

>>43654820
CP spending the entire episode spiraling over learning about his father's sex life is hilarious comeuppance, especially considering the shit he pulled with Soarin and Braeburn in Twilight Sparkle Fights a Clown, without needing to rely on heavy handed melodrama.

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>similar star decorations to the Portapotty episode ED
>implied to have something to do with locking out Friendship from opening portals to other dimensions
>CP's father may have hooked up with him in the past
What is his endgame?

>>43652837
Nah I just think he gained an age regression fetish after being turned into a baby the first time around. That or these episodes are being uploaded out of order.

>>43655192
Pretty sure I saw a tamers comment that said he became a baby again after using too much magic due to the spell that had been placed on him previously, or something

RD got into the Flintstone vitamins again.

>>43655171
Care Package's dad was partially responsible for the Pink Pony's death or disappearance. Last Laugh is his son who has become a villain because of this and gained magical powers, just like Max Hatter. That's why a quarter of the episode is dedicated to random characters repeating his backstory while nothing else happens on screen.

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>>43655171
Stars...

>>43655171
with how the last three stallion eps have ended on cliffhangers that weren't directly picked up by the next episode, it's kind of hard to say anything for sure. We don't even know when this takes place relative to Quarantine. Parcel Core being a baby again could indicate that it takes place before Quarantine or that the entire episode is one big dream. it could even take place way after Quarantine, with PC being reverted to a baby again after they escaped, although I doubt that with Professor Kirin still being a complete bastard. Too much is still up in the air. Whatever happened to the other kirin prince antagonist guy? Does anybody care?
Don't forget those star lights being present in Care Package's childhood bedroom from Twilight Sparkle Fights A Clown. We still never got an explanation for Arinos's presence in that flashback.

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>>43655171
>>43655221
In their multitudes...

>>43655203
the jannies protected us from another upright walking pony shot.
they're just as attentive and caring as the uk ponycon staff.

>>43655223
I'm thinking everyone is trapped in a fake reality with their memories of quarantine being suppressed, possibly by last laugh. It explains his weird lurking, and why the last two episodes have been noticeably weirder.

>>43654820
Oh fuck CP is dressed up like Kyle! South park!

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>content of an extremely explicit and offensive nature

>>43655266
With all the strange cameos we got in this episode I'm surprised that Craig and Tweek didn't show up.

>>43655238
This is still one of my favorite ED's tamers has done. He went so hard on it and didn't even have to.

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>>43655238
>top right corner
Stop giving me hope.

>>43655275
She looks like a mare who needs her balls drained

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>>43655288
Flawrinos is the endgame
Trvst the plan

>Tamers admitted that he got removed from the YouTube partner program
Damn that sucks, but maybe that means we'll be getting more of gritty humor that was showcased in his past vids again.

>>43655331
He already admitted that before, and that's not the main danger. The main danger is his entire channel getting nuked again because the jeet AI will flag whatever with no rhyme or reason, and now with UTTP on his booty he has to be extra careful as well since they'll be looking for anything they can use to mass report him with.

>>43655279
If that happens I'd be soooooo happy

>>43655340
They are blue and yellow, after all.

>>43653711
>Tamers doesn't lurk here

>>43652741
Is that the scene he accidentally saved over?

>>43655339
UTTP?
UnderTale Tranny Party?

>>43655363
YouTube Troll Police but close enough.

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Damn even when he was a kid Care Package was packing.

>>43655362
Apparently, the part that got saved over was the applepackage date towards the end. This was during Spitfire's roast of Care Package's Dad during Care Package's flashback.

>>43655385
Yeah I was rewatching the episode and that's where I caught it. Also did anyone catch what Spitfire said when it cut to Care Package tearing up before Soarin autographs his ass?

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For me it was the scene of CP getting flustered when Professor Kirin was talking about how he fucked his Dad's corpse (y'know cause CP is kind of into that shit himself so hearing that his Dad went through something like that there's a lot of intense mixed emotions running through him).

>>43655347
Oh my God my mind is blows

lol I remember back when the Soarin&Braeburn movie came out, people were theorizing that every stallion video afterwards was just Soarin living in a false reality and that he's still stuck in that bubble
now it looks like that may actually be the case this time

>>43655441
That was a bit of a bombshell for Kirin to drop on someone and the extra twist of the knife is CP knowing that his Dad was a corpse because of himself. I wonder, does Kirin know CP killed his Dad? Idk if he mentioned that. I'm surprised CP didn't freak out and kill him; this whole scene added some depth to his character.

I also like how tamers must have seen my quetion in the last thread asking "why make Kirin a necrophile?"
Well now we know, its so Kirin could reveal he fucked CP's dad (without consent). Tamers COOKED yet again

>>43652702
10/10 if for no other reason than because Dogman makes an appearance.

>>43655525
Well he doesn't really kill for like, reasons. He kills cause he kills, probably because he likes it but that's not even really clear.

Hes got broken brain.

>>43655547
I'm pretty sure he makes chunks of episodes ahead of time, which would mean that episode was already planned and partially drawn by the time last thread asked all those questions. At most, he might have made some last minute changes, which might explain the late publishing of the video.

I recall recent conversations on
1. why is the kirin nasty?
2. so like what's the deal with big mac's arc?
3. clean sweep is kind of a stupid blob
4. holy shit we get it they like murder (after the episode where they murder a lot like so much after mari/glim also murdered a bit)

And all 4 of these got at least touched on this episode, or accounted for in some way with a bit of balance. That's a bit of a coincidence.

But like, it's not a coincidence. He also probably feels the things which are kind of wrong with his show. He literally killed clean sweep for being a stupid poser. The kirin's story is important to the current wish-world arc and needed some attention. Developing Cs without dealing with big mac at all would be odd, since Cs obviously affects Bm here. And he obviously knows when he makes the ponies stab eachother.

So even though I do think he comes here sometimes, I don't think he made this episode in response to last thread or anything like that.

>>43655525
To be perfectly honest, I'm not convinced Kirin even knows Care Package was the man in the black suit that he was idolizing in BMGTC. It wouldn't be impossible for him to put two and two together, based on ambient conversations during Quarantine and how he got his hands on Apple Split's suit, but I think he and most of ponyville believes that the extent of Care Package's violence is just what happened during alicorn of death, and was swept under the rug as the magic making him go crazy.

>>43655556
Right, about that: does this Disney wonderland thingy deserve a watch?

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tail

>>43655895
hot

>>43655895
Flawless gets to sleep on and sniff that????
so lucky........

>>43655929
She probably gets jealous because she's afraid of inheriting Trixie's mare baldness.

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kino

https://youtu.be/dD2RmYlUzOk

Tamers reuploaded this EP on the second channel????????????????

>>43656062
makes sense. somebody asked about that episode during the premier chat and he said he'd reupload it on the 2nd channel.

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GOD!!!!!111!
IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE WE HAD A SEXY BRAEBURN SHOT~

>>43655441
>kill adoptive Dad
>internalize the murder poorly as killing is the only way you can derive any kind of sexual pleasure
>years later your Dad gets revived by your black crossdressing schizo BF to make up for all the years of pain and regret
>eventually he finds love, you're a bit reserved because he's your old man but as long as it isn't Soarin it's cool
>some fat kigger manlet rolls up in a Rascal wanting to play a game of "how many corn dogs can they fit up their asses?"
>he causally tells you that he dug up your Dad and sexually defiled his corpse
>tfw it's all your fault and your trying to picture Margret Thatcher naked on a cold day so your unwanted boner can go away

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>Big Mac continues to be a nothing character with no agency
God damn, is tamers12345 just stupid or is he pretending?
Big Macintosh is probably the first male pony anyone thinks of after watching at least 1 season of Friendship is Magic and he think he's gonna get more views and patrons from characters no one's ever heard of care about?
He had gold with Big Mac at first but he's never got it back since the first Soarin & Braeburn movie (tamers worst mlp episode btw but i digress) because Big Mac was written to just be the abusive antagonist and tamers didn't think of anything after that and now he has no idea what to do with the character.

Is there a webm of the fart that blasts Rainbow off the planet

>>43656325
perfect summation

>>43656325
Kino storytelling. Tamers12345 is like none other.

>>43655895
>*SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF*

>>43655373
I'd fuck his colt ass amd make him experience a new kind of trauma if you're picking up what I'm putting down.

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>>43656960

>>43656960
>>43657009
Those two are made for my penis.

>>43656960
Why does Braeburn have girly eyelashes?

Apple Bottom/ Split is my favorite, being the main character and all.
I bought a canvas I want to paint him on instead of just a sticky note doodle, he deserves it!

>>43657029
I just simply like drawing eyelashes

>>43657033
Neat. I like stallions with eyelashes on stallions with small penises.

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>>43657030

>>43649471
https://firlin123.github.io/cytube-replay/load?zip=https:%2F%2Frp.oc4.pp.ua%2F0_PublicData%2FReplays%2Fmlpanniversary%2F2024.10.11.zip

Click the little arrow in the top right to start playback, and "Skip to" up there to "Custom yt live fram for nu Tamers" for the premiere of DoTS. It won't load the actual video for that unfortunately, so you'll have to sync up a youtube version yourself. It's a kino viewing experience.
(a couple of the chat emotes are also broken but only a couple)

This fucking rainbow voice in this last episode is killing my sides

>>43655288
>>43655895
Arinos wrapping his giant tail on Flawless's...

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>>43655895
until the episode aired and we got to see friendship wearing a cool jacket, i was fully prepared for these two to look like this next to each other

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>>43657560
Lmao that's a great edit. I would have drawn Friendship too but that tail took a while to draw.

>>43657564
Gyatt

>>43657564
cute

>>43657560
I can't believe they turned Friendship into a pumpkin. Funniest shit I've ever seen.

There is only 1 time line.

>>43657938
Source?

The latest episode was really fun, though I still don't get what the fuck Katseye is
https://files.catbox.moe/35xv62.png
Also, I hope you don't mind me posting another Koh commission (Koh-mission?)
Content warning: homo

>>43658587
Imagine hating good art, ever

>>43658587
i think katseye is like a girl band, but the kpop kind, but they're from countries that aren't korea. i don't think they existed before tamers created them for this episode, just like disney's descendants.
also that image isn't even sexual, unless you're a monogatari fan.

>>43658625
you can be homo without it being sexual
tumblr calls it "homoromantic" i believe

>>43658869
>homoromantic
like sweetiebelle and scootaloo after they swapped eyes?

>>43658587
Oh, how I miss my boys. I'm just glad they got a happy ending, fixing Robotnik's clogged toilet in the Christmas episode.

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>>43658895
yeah, real happy....

>>43659093
Best Tamers OC
The idea of Chrysalis having a daughter that just wants to make friends and get love naturally is so damn cute. I like Thorax too, but the skittlebugs look ugly as shit.

>>43658587
Koh-FiMania is running wild

>>43655441
>>43656325
Tamers understands there are multiple layers of eroticism and I appreciate that he showcases that.

>>43658587
Koh-mosexual

yo glimmy is there any convenient place I can find all your fart commissions or is it just your twitter timeline?

>>43659339
Why don't you ask him on his Twitter DM's?

>>43658587
Koh-mosapiens

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>>43656960
>>43657170
I ran out of white paint and couldn't do pink..

>>43659813
I'd give that painting a smooch.

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>Rarity is still the most powerful character in both timelines
What do you think is in store for her?

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>>43657560
That friendship pumpkin reminds me of Penta for some reason.

>>43659829
Opal Essence with babbies

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>>43659813
Sexy old man necrophile

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They know.

>>43659872
Worst face he's drawn, hands-down('s)