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Come one and all to the meta-writefag and help raise the quality of MLP fanfiction! Featuring: Alex, who needs to be breastfed again!

ITT: Spanking your aunt, Twilight is pregnant again, keeping up with an autistic alicorn's libido, Sunburst is just some guy, evil hotboxing, 50,000 words of psychological angst, overly-plot-convenient monsters, Incubators did nothing wrong, 3 pedophile bumps in a row, another shitty self insert isekai story staring a loser in his early 20s who gets transported to Equestria, Celestia's lactation problems, tribe>breed>clan, write something really gay, Applejack REALLY wants a monorail, even more schizobabble, Caballeron is a foalcon, dragon dick tastes like hot sauce, and the best written blowjob you've ever read!

>/fimfic/ Secret Book Club
The one hundred and ninetieth book is "This is the Last Train Car":
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/384325/this-is-the-last-train-car
If (You) want to participate, read the entire story by Sunday, October 25th.

>Recommended stories:
Tired of adventures that meander for a million words? Fed up with super special OCs? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!
New Starter Kit - http://mlpficreviews.org.uk/starter/
Old Starter Kit - http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png

>Common fic abbreviations used by the thread:
https://ponepaste.org/7317

>A list of reviews made by the Anons in this thread:
http://www.mlpficreviews.org.uk
Use the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story.
Userscript for extra features: https://ponepaste.org/8619

>An in-depth writing guide for beginners:
https://eznguide.neocities.org/

>Additional material for authors:
Rhorse's Horse Behavioral Notes - https://ponepaste.org/932
Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/
Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://poneb.in/g4VpEg4f
Purdue Online Writing resources: https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/index.html and https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/creative_writing/writers/index.html

>Can you pre-read my story?
Post it on Google Docs or HackMD with comments enabled and give us a link.

>Various reviews and riffs:
Fillyanon's Bookshelf - https://ponepaste.org/5555
Notkickass222urmom's Reviews - https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmom
IHeartShinzakura's Reviews - https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakura
Appleanon reads fics - https://poneb.in/wmGX7FPm
Deluxe Big Master Review List - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeU
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Previous Thread: >>43606932
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best rape fics?
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Second for best 2uo!
Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/348665/tarry-not
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Are you writing, son?
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If we forget all the arguments going back and forth, and just take it so that there's sex imbalance (be it big or small) in Equestrian society, how would (you) make it work socially and culturally?
So it doesn't fall into generic harem fantasy of either super dominant male getting ALL the mares or useless manchild with mommy issues gets his fantasy fulfilled.
So that majority of the ponies won't be left alone. Would it be sort of herds but with Equestrian twist with mare at the helm of the longhouse, with the husband-stallion somewhere there in-between, with this communal family that consists of romantic and platonic pairs of life partners? Could it be bonded mare and stallion pair with possibility of "donation" to close friends?
I really can't imagine anything that doesn't have at least some sort of typical "sexual male fantasy" component somewhere in there.
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>>43648635
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/201134/dont-open-your-eyes-scoot
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>Caballeron is a foalcon
I read that one. It sucked and was totally out of character. Scootaloo's parents would never care that she was groomed and raped like that.
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>>43648708
How about Rainbow Dash or Daring Do being foalcons?
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>>43648708
They would care if they thought Caballeron was providing her a safe and loving environment so that they could rip her away from it.
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>>43648714
Don't you have a three hour long Steven Universe critique video to make?
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>>43648742
What are you talking about?
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>>43648744
You don't know this one? There's a famous (infamous) video that was some Youtube essayist talking about how much Steven Universe sucked and doing all this critique on it. As it turns out she had never watched the show in the first place, just told about it secondhand through her ex-girlfriend, and had also written this story about Rainbow Dash grooming Scootaloo and adopting her to rape her and a bunch of other foalcon stuff.
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>>43648652
I think having a mare care about you at all is a male fantasy. The only way to get rid of it is to make misery porn, which is really just a different type of fantasy.
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>>43648756
That's Lily Orchard, and he's a man.
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>>43648771
I thought they were just ugly
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Between Flash, Spike, and Blueblood, who gets self-inserted into the most ythink
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>>43648805
I always identified as Spike a lot.
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>>43648652
Got to write a fic about it from both mare and stallion perspectives.
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>>43648652
Okay. Then write it entirely from the pov of a mare. A lesbian mare.
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>>43648631
>dragon dick tastes like hot sauce
There does exist an excellent clopfic featuring that concept, though its format is far too refined for this thread:
https://ponepaste.org/6308
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>>43648864
Funny, why is ponepaste asking for a username and password to enter the site now? Did something change?
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>>43648864
I fucking hate how I knew this would be an Anon x Spike green before even clicking.
>>43648882
Works on my machine, no login needed.
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>>43648891
You don't like Anon x Spike stories?
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>>43648652
Mares getting mares pregnant, obviously.
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>>43648902
No, I don't go out looking for stories about Spike getting head, actually. Nor ones that feature Anon, the headgiver.
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>>43648917
I headcanon that there's a bunch of lesbian conception spells that you can just get easily, because as a utopia Equestria has a good healthcare and neonatal care system.
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>>43648934
>Equestriutopia
Okay, Mr. Gender Euphoria.
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>>43648937
Trixie said that was impossible.
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>>43648924
What kind of Spike stories do you like then?
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>>43648652
The nuclear family wouldn't be normal, the norm would certainly be herds because there's no longer anything clamping relationships to a single pair and ponies congregate by default. I think that, because there would be herds, there wouldn't be a single common structure. Based on the princesses, though, I would expect the groups to tend to revolve around a central mare, not a stallion.
I think that the family roles would not be set by gender, but by both gender and the type of mare, and herds would seek a pony to fill that role. For example, a group may prefer structure and favor a mare with an administrative personality, or they may prefer anarchy and collect a group of mares that are individualistic and independently reliable, or a bunch of musicians would form a herd-band, etc. Each group would form accoring to their own preferences, and the ones distant from that shared preference would break off and join another that fits them better.
As a practical matter, their sexual relationships with each other wouldn't be decided by a binary straight/lesbian, but on a range of how lesbian they are or could be with each other, and that would make it harder for a mare who is attracted to masculine traits to get the sex she wants. Here, it bears clarifying that it's the male fantasy part of this that extrapolates that into meaning most ponies are dissatisfied and lonely, even desperate. Most mares can simply prefer more mares and then there's nothing bad about the arrangement. It would also mean that they don't have to lower their standards just to get an organic cock.

I think you would have more cases where intimacy is further distinguished from sex, and there would be a good number of cuddle piles that wouldn't have a stallion in them. Regardless, being a fit mare that can wield a strap on effectively would be valuable more often than not.

In any case, RGRE is a tool for making your story more FiM-like. If the only way you can figure out how to use it to make your story better is to ponify words around the "mare" root, the that's all you can do.
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Remember, kids: never listen to a pedophile.
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>>43648961
This is a good response, I was thinking along the same lines.
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>>43648960
>fic about Spike and his adoptive sister-mom
>fic about Spike and his relationship with Rarity, even if it isn't shipping
>fic about Spike being a dragon amongst ponies
>fic about Spike and his DnD bros
This, I like.
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>>43648960
Spike being posessed by a BASED HiE human bro who takes all the hot chicks for himself
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>>43649027
>not coaching lil bro into a proper ladies' man
I suppose TFfaggots never really had any male rolemodels in their life.
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>>43649063
Possession is not TF though
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>>43649018
So you're into... slice of life. That's it? No NSFW?
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What do you do to get motivated to write?
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>>43649098
I leave myself a scene I wanted to write unwritten from the last time I wrote
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>>43648960
Just passed the part in the Alicorn Adventure series where spike kills some storm king yetis for Twilight and she gets upset but he promises he's ride or die with her. Which is his best trait. I like the lore (in this series) where Twilight looks into other universes and one of the only constants is that no matter what, if Twilight is good or evil spike is right there with her
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>>43649092
>No NSFW?
Now you're getting it. But I would not be opposed to a [Sad] or [Horror] or [Adventure] with a good Spike.
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>>43649263
Do you have a dragon OC by any chance?
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>>43649271
No.
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>>43649435
Do you want to?
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>>43649092
Bro took the clean pill
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>>43649513
Idea: story about a dragon that steals precious item from ponies but he makes a game out of it to challenge himself.
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>>43648960
Ones where he dies painfully.
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>>43649617
Don't be like this.
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You guya reading the new Cozy stories from the contest?
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>>43649722
This mare likes to be stoned.
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>>43649722
Cozy who?
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>>43649730
inshallah and such or whatever the sandnigger says
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>>43649513
Are you trying to make a sale?
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>>43648960
Cute wholesome mom Twi stories.
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>>43649722
I read most of them. I can't say they are very good. Then again, I prefer stories where Golly gets a wholesome happy ending, which seems to not be the norm for the contest.
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Damn, the screenshots in /chag/ seem better than anything I can write...
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>>43648652
>how would (you) make it work socially and culturally?
What we see in the show is
>mostly monogamy in relationships
>mostly mares
>mostly ponies that don't seem to be married
Obviously there's a bias towards more marriages on screen in side characters because a significant portion of them are the main character's parents.

So what I would do is say: the majority of ponies are mares, and the majority of mares do not get married. Probably almost every stallion does, eventually, and there might be cultural pressure here. But the median mare is a borderline otaku powered by a cutie mark and colorful horse fixations, so the ponies that have children have a lot - possibly over a long time, since ponies aren't on the same strict biological clock as humans/earth mammals.

Some implications
>farm ponies mostly have a son and daughter that stay on the land/marry into other farms, and the rest of the daughters go into the city and the like. Ponies like Apple Bloom and Maud who leave home and become more embroiled in culture are the rule rather than the exception - and this is the same reason why filly AJ was given the chance to be a city pony and had to choose to go back to the farm.
>married couples tend to retire pretty young, like we see with Posey shy (Twilight's parents might be idle rich from the start(?)). Equestria is generally very low cost of living compared to the productivity of ponies, even in desolate conditions with no skilled workers like Our Town, so while they might be living on savings there's also a good chance they're being supported by their adult daughters as soon as they're working because a pony like Fluttershy on has a limited amount of use for money.
There could even be an expectation, for example, that Flurry Heart is going to be the future princess of the Crystal Empire because culturally the expectation is that Cadance is going to retire and just get to enjoy her marriage in peace one she's old enough to take the reins. I think this dovetails very nicely in with a society which triumphs love as one of the highest virtues - most ponies don't find love, but the ones that do are precious and should be encouraged and protected.
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>>43649769
doesn't adoption anon do those
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>>43649821
Who?
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>>43649797
If that's the case, you need to practice more.
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>>43649822
fae, the guy here who does all the adoption/baby fics.
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Any good ponies on earth stories? Any that are still being updated or been written in the past few years?
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>>43649959
>Still being updated
Uh.. no.
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>>43649959
Currently writing one actually! Might ask for feedback from this thread, if that's something you guys are willing to do
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>>43649830
I never really did a Twilight & Spike one minus some bits in the Nyx one.
I wanna do one where he sees her as a sister and she sees him as a son and there's drama from the disconnect, but I've no idea where to take that outside of the premise.
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>>43650025
It's shit.
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>>43650025
Remember that the supreme court wouldn't be the one to grant the pony human rights.
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>>43650025
It's peak.
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>>43650044
>I've no idea where to take that
The orphanage, and have someone else adopt Spike.
In fact, I think there's already a fic about a dragoness adopting Spike.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/314797/small-scale
I remember it being good...
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>>43649805
>Flurry Heart is going to be the future princess of the Crystal Empire because culturally the expectation
But if having an alicorn progeny is mystical or unsure as it was established, what if Flurry in turn has no alicorn to give the power to? Is she to remarry mortal after mortal and having offspring until she can retire? Or is she going to sing a friendship song and give yet another pair to a mortal to leave and waste her savings on expensive cruises on grand Bahamare archipelago?

But jokes aside, you missed one element here. There seems to be plenty of mare-foal pairings shown in the series. One implication is that they're just wife and child going to the town while husband is doing something else, but we can't be sure. Another implication is that they're single parents, with whatever arrangement there might be, and due to the few number of stallions, I don't think it's divorce.

Another big question you stepped over is that if only married monogamous pairs reproduce, depending on amount of stallions, the brood of foals one mare need to birth is huge to maintain the population level. How do you reckon that works?

(pic tangentially related)
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>>43650367
Why are they all the same age?
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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/502251/daring-duo

6/10. Daring and Caballeron team up to escape a death trap and beat the villain. This one was fine. Nothing to particularly write home about. Definitely had a post-canon air to it, which isn't really a good thing given how shit Daring Doubt was.

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/510538/i-lied

5.7/10. Ahuizotl decides Daring Doubt was a shit episode and ignores it. A classic fix fic to a really shit episode. Seems like most Daring fic authors just ignore Daring Doubt completely rather than even bothering trying to fix it. This one had a slight amateurish feel to it, but the bigger problem were the weird plot holes. Most notable being the iron chains that melt in the sun and allow Daring's escape. How many BTUs was Celestia pumping out that day?

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/506926/defeated

3.7/10. Daring has writer's block and has become a sloven fatass as a result. I don't think I've ever read a more "the author is just wearing the character's skin" fic in my life. This Daring bears almost no resemblance to any version of her--canon or otherwise--I've encountered. It really just feels like Skirts ranting about all the unfinished fics he's written and how they've beaten him. Given he stopped logging in two years later, it seems he really was defeated.

>>43648121
Why do that when you can have a four thread long debate over why the Ponyville Clocktower had eight hours on it. Not even DOWAS metric time can solve that riddle.

>>43648176
>out of universe explanation
I still love the post-S2 headcanon of "they were all actually changelings that were infiltrating Equestria". If only they'd actually stopped doing it after S2.

>>43648648
Still chipping away at the Daring horror oneshot. Derpibooru lacks any good dark magic book art, so it's off to the Inkscape mines yet again to throw something together.

>>43648708
Kek. I forgot about the multi-chapter where Daring dies in a sand trap saving Dash. No, the OP's referencing the schizofic oneshot.
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>>43650377
You can't tell pony's age by just looking at them!
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>>43650367
>Another big question you stepped over is that if only married monogamous pairs reproduce, depending on amount of stallions, the brood of foals one mare need to birth is huge to maintain the population level. How do you reckon that works?
Yeah!

https://derpibooru.org/tags/comic-colon-yeaa

https://derpibooru.org/images/2868043
https://derpibooru.org/images/2868047
https://derpibooru.org/images/2868049
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>>43650367
>But if having an alicorn progeny is mystical or unsure as it was established, what if Flurry in turn has no alicorn to give the power to?
I'm saying that Cadance having a child/husband makes her the exception and Celestia/Luna and Twilight/Flurry being single forever is the cultural norm. Essentially, Cadance can't hold the job because she's married. This plays into the essential RGR of the setting if you want to introduce those elements. IRL the 'glass ceiling' is essentially the fear that a critical employee will retire into marriage/pregnancy, so you'd be better off training a man who will stay in the company and promoting him. In this Equestria, that would be anypony that gets married, with the gendered element just being that pretty much every stallion is expected to get married while it's the minority of mares. So something like
>not every lovestuck pony is a stallion infact less than half are, but ~every stallion is expected to find love
and fittingly the Princess of Love is the only Princess that gets married.

>But jokes aside, you missed one element here. There seems to be plenty of mare-foal pairings shown in the series. One implication is that they're just wife and child going to the town while husband is doing something else, but we can't be sure. Another implication is that they're single parents, with whatever arrangement there might be, and due to the few number of stallions, I don't think it's divorce.
That's true. The thing is that we don't see larger family units and if it was multiple marriage we'd still expect to see the husband there and more actual groupings, but we neither see multiple marriage nor do we see the husband there, obviously, in those outings where the husband isn't there. I'd lean towards the first implication as the easiest answer here. The stallion is usually the primary caretaker, so on days where he isn't available the mare takes the foal out with her and does something. This could also go together with stallions being homemakers if you want, and the reason the foal is out of the house is that e.g. construction is going on that the stallion is involved with.
>Another big question you stepped over is that if only married monogamous pairs reproduce, depending on amount of stallions, the brood of foals one mare need to birth is huge to maintain the population level. How do you reckon that works?
I addressed that directly. Ponies don't operate on any kind of fixed timeframes. They can just have another 'generation' of foals out of the same marriage after the first set have grown up if there hasn't been a stallion yet. The showrunners certainly considered the possibility of litters but I don't think we really see evidence of a mare with an enormous number of fillies at once, at least not as a standard fixture, so I think they'd still be raising fairly normal (by human standards) numbers of fillies at a time.
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>>43650406
>derpibooru
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>>43650384
The truth is Mayor Mare cut corners with the budget and outsourced the clock tower to a Griffonstone contractor, pocketing the difference.
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>>43650408
>The stallion is usually the primary caretaker
I fail to see the logic here, since mare is the one who births the foal and per "run of the mill standard mammalian reproduction" also nurses it. The mare-foal bond is strong, and all of a sudden stallion just takes over. Despite this we virtually see no stallion-foal pairs in the series?

Pony ageing is also bit hazy and all over the place in the series. Ponyville and Granny Smith's age and all that. But if we go by that somewhat accepted concept of horse reproductive window adjusted to human age, pony mares would have mostly fertile and safe reproductive window into their early 50's. It's plausible to wait for 4 to 5 years or even longer between the foals, if for example we go by ratio or 1:3 where basically only 25% of the mares do the reproduction. Given that many families seems to have 1 or 2 foals, many families need to produce more to keep the population stable and we have no idea about the distribution of those families. M6 families average to 2.33 foals per family, when the average needs to be 4 foals per family. If those family sizes are very common as it seems, there needs to be very large families to keep up the population.
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>>43650486
You're leaning very heavily on things which aren't part of the show at all. Like I'm sorry but
>run of the mill standard mammalian reproduction
Headcanon. Also you're assigning meaning to nursing (also headcanon) that isn't necessarily that (i.e. is headcanon).
>But if we go by that somewhat accepted concept of horse reproductive window adjusted to human age
Not only headcanon but directly contradicting what we see in the show, alike to "acktually there are as many stallions as there are mares even though we don't see any of them" nonsense.

None of these are valid concerns if what you care about is fidelity to the show/canon.
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>that isn't necessarily that
that isn't necessarily there*
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>>43650494
> Ponies don't operate on any kind of fixed timeframes.
And this is not a headcanon?
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>>43650500
Correct.
We see no statements suggesting that they do. If you want to assert a positive, you need to find direct evidence from the text. We also have counter examples like Sunset and various Pinkie scenes.
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>>43650516
>We see no statements suggesting that they do.
Like your statement about stallion being the primary caretaker?
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>>43650530
Correct, that's part of the AU/headcanon/fictitious world for a hypothetical RGR scenario following canon. Anon, are you even following the conversation? The prompt was >>43648652
>If we forget all the arguments going back and forth, and just take it so that there's sex imbalance (be it big or small) in Equestrian society, how would (you) make it work socially and culturally?
This is a proposal for a gender-ratio-inequality scenario.
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>>43650541
>are you even following the conversation?
I don't know, are you since you were the one who started blaming me for headcanoning shit up, while similarly coming up with stuff to make the prompt work.
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>>43650561
Are you retarded?
Headcanon isn't true but if it doesn't conflict with canon it can be.
Ponies CAN have earthlike aging for the most part but you have to explain certain exceptions (usually by chalking it up to magic).
Ponies CAN have most of the married stallions as primary caretakers. The only glaring exception to this that comes to mind is Diamond Tiara's family, though I'm sure I'm missing some. It's certainly not enough to disrupt it being a plausible cultural trend though.

If I write a story where Twilight has jam sandwiches for breakfast, that doesn't violate canon nor does it make it true in canon for all stories. Different stories will have different answers. Nor does having Twilight have jam sandwiches mean that she always or even often has jam sandwiches in that story, unless you say she does. What would violate canon is saying that Twilight ALWAYS has jam sandwiches for breakfast, since we see her eating other things for breakfast, unless we introduce it as an element which is new in-universe.

You can't pick apart a story premise for not following your headcanon when it follows actual canon, anon.
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>>43650585
>I don't have to prove my retarded headcanon is true, you have to prove it's false
wheeled goalposts are such a delight, aren't they?
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>>43650637
I genuinely can't tell if you're trolling or actually retarded



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