Which episode this fag talking about I’m a retard
>>43680399fame and misfortune
>>43680399link the original post on the original board, nigger S7E14
>>43680399M.A. Larson quit their team because he was made to write this, by the way
>>43680436Source? Or are you just assuming that because the two things happened vaguely around the same time?
>>43680399Little girls didn't even appreciate it though. Half the problem was the number of episodes, like F&M itself, that were targeted at the fandom or weird pseudopolitical stuff. Plus a lot of the character designs from that era specifically fucking sucked. Two episodes later they did the first truly dedicated Pillars episode and they had not even a tenth the cultural impact of the fucking student six lol.
>>43680444https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/10/ma-larson-explains-fame-and-misfortune.html
>>43680399iirc the episode was intended to make a point about the show not being about logical throughlines or consistency, it's about teaching morals to little girls. Which funnily enough does nothing to address the criticisms even the episode itself presents. Imagine how much better those episodes woulld be if they taught good morals to girls AND were written well.
>>43680460God I wish I could play board games with Trixie
>>43680468>God I wish I could play board games with Trixie
>>43680453Lol at the retards in the comments defending the episode
>>43680453Oh, damn. That must suck ass to get stuck writing what is essentially an inflammatory opinion piece that you don't even agree with. Thanks for the source.
>>43680498>literal writer of the episode says he didn't enjoy writing it>still feel the need to lambast people who dislike the episodeHoly hell, how dense can they be?
>>43680550He enjoyed it, he's just a cuck that backs down and deflects against any criticism and acts like he's on "our side".
>>43680575Really?
>>43680575Cool headcanon.
>>43680399The funny thing is thats the only episode with no resolution.
>>43680399How are you that retarded? That's one of the most recognizable episodes
>>43680936>Haberslop episode>recognizableHeh
>>43680445People have shit taste and don't appreciate the Pillars.
>>43680436He didn't like the ending they made him write, but he didn't "quit" because of it since the writers generally do contract work, i.e. get hired per episode. He was approached to write for S8 or S9 again, but refused because Hasbro didn't offer him a raise (iirc the writers were still getting essentially the same rate as earlier seasons, possibly S1 even), I'm fairly certain he said he would've come back if not for that.
>>43680959>and don't appreciate the PillarsAs they should.
>>43680959Funnily enough the only pillar I really have a problem with is Starswirl. Somnambula is a bit boring (and Rockhoof is a fraud, obviously, but that's the point of the character) but Starswirl gets pushed way too much and it's a long running persistent problem. I don't know if there was one staffer who wasn't a retarded like in an exec position that guided it away from total IDW slop or what but we were only narrowly saved from total disaster by essentially having things shake out without any true retcons, but I definitely don't think the writers understood that.
>>43680468Qh4#. That's checkmate, Trixtards.
>>43681013trixie won
>>4368039967th episode
This thread. Is a great addition to my collection
>>43680460>2 movesI love my wife.
>>43680575He did not and the leaks proved it. He wanted a different ending but a executive said "Nuh uh, only the little girls matter"
>>43684102If only the little girls mattered the episode would never have been made in the first place.
>>43684111It is incredible how Fame & Misfortune blatantly fails in so many levels yet there are still people defending it as a justified ownage to the "toxic fandom"
>>43684122If you hadn't realized yet, we here on /mlp/ are the "toxic fandom." It doesn't matter your beliefs, if you post here, you're not one of the GOOD, hecking wholesome, Appledash canon-writing, S9 ending i cri everi tiem-appreciating, habernigger worshipping, tiktok edit making, Derpibooru poster and you're labeled as the enemy. It's us against the horse world, Anon, and somehow we're still winning
>>43684165>and somehow we're still winningAre we really, though
>>43684169I'd argue our existence and culture surviving against all odds, albeit in a weakened form, is winning.
>>43684122I watched the show before I even knew the fandom existed and I liked the episode. It's a funny episode about ponies misunderstanding the m6's friendship journal and thinking the m6 were playing characters in an elaborate story they starred in.
>>43684169As long as someone wants someone dead because they don't think their waifu is best pony and retards on twitter get mad at both of them, we will never lose.
>>43684200>I liked the episodeThere's no problem in liking the episode, just don't claim it's good when it's clearly not.
>>43684290I liked the episode because it's good.
>>43684200Go away foid
>>43684292No, you liked it because you're a big faggot.
>>43680399They really could have addressed all the issues they had with the fandom through a more productive method.Instead>twilight was better before she got wingsIs 100% true. Not specifically because of muh wings, but it's difficult to say that the writing of her hadn't cratered after the wings. I'm convinced that her failures to have a believable princesshood are way more an issue than the wings. It just wasn't handled well. On the other hand, things like Fluttershy being, shy, and not ever changing are actually very realistic, and completing that arc gives you garbage like "Fluttershy Leans In." A boring episode with no point. It was almost a response to people who said she never grows. As if to say 'here's why we leave her arc incomplete' because by having her overcome her anxieties she became the most boring mare. I feel like the "We're not perfect" song was 100% valid. In light of Fluttershy's most boring episode. That said. How on earth did they simultaneously say the fandom is full of shit (mostly true) but then allow the criticism from said fandom guide their writing?! From making darker themes, to not reforming villains, to completing character arcs so early you need new ponies, on and on. You can't say "the fandom is stupid" and then take every stupid idea the fandom had. Hell, they even took the shity "twilight outlives her friends" idea. This is why season 1 and 2 are so much better than the rest. They just wrote it for kids without our influence. But man, referencing a fandom in show is about as petty as it gets. And then to use the fandom criticism to guide awful changes to the shows tone as just icing on the cake. Damn show writers.
>>43684959>They just wrote it for kids without our influence>season 2Lol? You can tell they were pandering to the adult audience just from Return of Harmony and Lesson ZeroAnd that's not even including Derpy
>>43681013>Trixie gets the 4 move mateKek.
>>43684977All those scripts were written before our influence got too bad. Besides I would argue that the tonal shift between season 1 and 2 isn't a net positive.
>>43684959I liked Twilight more after wings, she was finally starting to progress as a character and she became more relatable. Early Twilight was directionless, she merely existed as the plot mover and exposition bot. Her only saving grace was her snark which isn't even unique to her since Spike, AJ, and Dash have some of that too.
>>43685244>she was finally starting to progress as a characterWow, she went from snarky and rude and quirky to... uh... she starting being... um... hm... NOT snarky, rude, and quirky?
>>43685264You having a stroke, anon?
>>43685264>Wow, she went from snarky and rude and quirky toa piggy
>>43685272I'm having a stroke to Trixie, yeah.
