Hypothetically speaking, what would happen if hip hop became dominated by nepo babies?As it is, hip hop is one of the few -- if not final -- genres that holds disdain and resentment towards nepo kids. Despite the genre having been heavily commericalized and commodified in the past 35 years, rap musicians and fans still hold on to the kernel of authenticity that defined it. Your rhymes are expected to come from your own mind and shaped by your own experiences. Rappers will get called out and mocked for faking their backstories. Talk about preserving the integrity of "the culture" still persists even among newer generation rap fans. Obviously, nepo babies like North West, Lil Novi (Lil Wayne's son), and Gekyume Onfroy who were born into the industry and raised surrounded by industry people will not be welcomed. Jaden Smith, Christian Combs (Diddy's son), and TI's son all attempted rap careers of their own and failed miserably.Of course, this begs the question: WHY do rap fans even care about "preserving" hip hop's "authenticity?" Pop and rock (and nearly every other genre) have become the complete domain of rich kids whose parents had industry connections. What would happen if rap did the same?
nepos will always win because normgroids do not care enough. theyd listen to AI as long as its decent
nepobabbies rarely are successful in other genres, doubt they would be in rap
>>130397164Nearly every single pop star these days comes from money (like Taylor) or had family members with industry ties (Billie Eilish and Sabrina Carpenter come to mind).
>>130397172coming from money does not mean coming from a musical dynasty, julian casablancas grew up rich but his dad owned a modeling agency, sean lennon descends from john lennon and lives in his shadow
>>130397091>Of course, this begs the question: WHY do rap fans even care about "preserving" hip hop's "authenticity?" Pop and rock (and nearly every other genre) have become the complete domain of rich kids whose parents had industry connections. What would happen if rap did the same?Because a lot of Black kids in the hood still see hip hop as a way out of poverty. When nepo babies get rap careers they're seen as taking away opportunities from poor Black kids who are more talented and much more deserving.
>>130397198>HE DIDNT HAVE IT EASY HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A MILLIONAIRE BUT HE HAD TO FIGHT HIS WAY TO THE TOP OKAY???!
>>130397198Natalie Cole?Whitney Huston?Jeff Buckley?
>>130397202they also say this about basketball.
>>130397215>Jeff Buckley as a nepobabywords have truly lost all meaning
>>130397091>Hypothetically speaking, what would happen if hip hop became dominated by nepo babies?It would finally lose whatever rebellious edge it once had.Nepo babies generally suck because they never have to work on their craft to prove themselves. They were born with their feet firmly planted in the door. They get signed based on their family name alone rather than their talent.I also think there's an element of nepo kids trying to copy whatever made their parents famous, because they think that's what fans expect of them.
>>130397172>>130397215Michael Jackson's daughter can't even get her music career off the ground.
>>130397091This is a question to ask a sociologist.
>>130397413Why?
>>130397644That girl from Linkinpark is a scientologist i guess thats why!
>>130397091>What would happen if hip hop became dominated by nepo babies?They'd end up just making party music and a bunch of pop, rock, and EDM cross over shit. Pretty much what rappers have currently done. Actual fans of hip-hop will just continue to listen to underground acts.>WHY do rap fans even care about "preserving" hip hop's "authenticity?Hip-hop is a subculture, not just a genre of music.It's a part of people's identity, they dress in hip-hop, speak in hip-hop, there are attitudes or behaviors, rules, and customs associated with being hip-hop (this is what Kendrick and many other was so upset at Drake about), there's movies, and dance, and visual art that's distinctly hip-hop. Sometimes you see people say that the other "elements" of hip-hop are hanging on by a thread but in actuality they've just kind of been melded or evolved into the entire zeitgeist of hip-hop. But the one element that hasn't completely melded or amalgamated into the overall culture of just being able to call yourself hip-hop is being a competent MC. If you can't rap you aint shit, without skill on the mic or with pen you have no claim to the authenticity of being a rapper. People will excuse all type of lies, and fables, if you can rock the mic and make hit records. Skill is the key to authenticity, and you simply can't fake being a decent or at least a unique rapper. Other genres you can get away with having the look, you can let the music, other band members, or instrumentation carry you. In hip-hop, if you can't freestyle, or battle, or deliver some word play, or punchlines, or melodies, at least a decent hook then you've got absolutely nothing. Doesn't matter how hot or cool you look, doesn't matter if you can dance, doesn't matter if you can pull off a sick guitar solo. If you can't do the very basic thing of rapping then there's nothing for you, and we've yet to have any real nepo-babies be able to rap that well. I think the closest we ever got was Romeo and Diggy.
>>130397939>I think the closest we ever got was Romeo and Diggy.And they both kind of suck (Romeo more than Diggy) but they have hits, and in the context of the thread subject of nepo-babies they are relevant, and they made music for kids so no one is expecting them to write Illmatic.
>>130397939>Skill is the key to authenticity, and you simply can't fake being a decent or at least a unique rapper. Other genres you can get away with having the look, you can let the music, other band members, or instrumentation carry you. In hip-hop, if you can't freestyle, or battle, or deliver some word play, or punchlines, or melodies, at least a decent hook then you've got absolutely nothing.>If you can't rap you aint shit, without skill on the mic or with pen you have no claim to the authenticity of being a rapper.Teezo is the most recent and most perfect example of this. If that dude came in looking the way he does without being able to rap he would have been laughed off the stage, laughed out of the studio, and went back to his job of being a janitor.
>>130397091If only Country music was the same it wouldn't be so shit. Crazy to think a genre specifically born out of being poor and playing music for the fun of it turned into such a gluttonous clusterfuck of auto tune, crappy instrumentals and meme lyrics
>>130398046And just to emphasize it once again. On the opposite end of the spectrum, Jeezy almost got laughed out of the studio because he was punching in instead of just delivering his verse in one go. He only saved himself once they heard the finished product.
The precious 12% need their own culture and stage to perform
nepo's dei government subsidies its all the same
>>130397091thank you for this thread chatGPT
TNBD
>>130397091these are all the children of rappersnot hip-hop
>>130400733What’s the difference?
>>130397292Wasn't he the son of Tim Buckley?
>>130397939Yes, I forgot about Romeo.
>>130397091North doesn’t rap. She makes outsider music.
>>130397091What do trust fund kids like North and Gekyume have to rap about?
>>130402186I’m guessing they’re expected to make Playboi Carti music, not Kendrick music.
>>130401607There's also Coi Leray. I forget that she's Benzino's daughter. She might possibly be the most successful "nepo baby" so far.
>>130402921And she’s much more of a pop star than a rapper, shocker.
>>130397091Most rap today is garbage and I expect rap nepo babies won’t make any difference.
>>130397091Rock was subverted and gatekeeping was ripped to shreds. Rappers being Black means they get shielded from Liberal bullshit imo.
>>130397091I can’t say anything about the other two, but there is no way Gekyume will ever be a successful rapper. Everyone knows he’s been groomed from birth into being his dead criminal father’s clone, meaning no one will see any music he dies as being unique to him or something he created himself with his own merit. I given how much his idiot mother has been using him for online clout, the most rap audiences will make of him is a kidfluencer trying to rap.Look at this video, for instance. Notice all the jump cuts? It’s 100% staged.https://www.instagram.com/reel/DImrWapOM94/
i don't see why a decent nepo baby rap artist would be impossible, but i like very few. the only one who i can think of who i like is cory gunz. a lot of rappers are hundred thousandaires anyway not millionaires
and when i say i like him, i mean i like one verse of his that was on that lil wayne song
>>130403407That’s one weird looking mutt baby.
Would you consider Dorrough’s children, if he has any, nepo babies?
>>130403735Dorrough?
>>130403752Exactly. There are a lot of rappers who made a few songs, tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, and are forgotten about. Are they or their children “privileged “?
>>130397091It’s a Black intergenerational wealth issue. If whites can build dynasties in the entertainment industry why can’t Black people?
>>130403761Kids born surrounded by industry people are nepo babies, yes.
>>130403763I’m not black and I don’t have inter generational wealth. I’ll like specific nepo babies if I think their music is good. I’m not going to listen to anyone, white or black, just to give them inter generational wealth
On a case by case basis
>>130403763Gekyume and North aren’t even Black. Really makes you wonder why so many “Black” nepo babies are biracial/mixed.
>>130397202And then they get signed to predatory major label deals without reading the fine print, because they couldn’t afford lawyers who would have immediately warned them of all the red flags.
>>130403763Major labels love nepo babies for two reasons: 1. These kids were born into the industry so they don’t need to be coached on how the industry works, and 2. They gain instant fanfare and curiosity in their music based on their family names alone. They’re the perfect low risk/high reward investments as far as industry people are concerned. Cash cows.
brother, worry about your own intergenerational wealth. intergenerational wealth for all black people will happen sometime around the time that intergenerational wealth for all people exists. the world will be very different in the future due to technology and science.
>>130403898And nepo babies largely avoid predatory deals because they have industry insider families and can afford the lawyers.
>>130397091>hip hopunc genre
>>130404398Yes. Zoomers only care about rage music now. Playboi Carti clones.
Name me one single nepo baby from a musical dynasty that makes good music. Just one.
>>130404631>>130397215
>>130397091Hip hop is almost dead as it is. Nepo babies taking it over will only accelerate the genre’s irrelevance.
>>130403407Correct and I’ll add that the reason Gekyume will never be a “legend” like his father is because nepo babies sitting on top of $10 million trust funds do not innovate culture; they steal culture from the underground. The true innovators of culture are the people on the margins of society who create spaces where they can be self-expressive without ridicule. This is exactly why Black culture was so lucrative and why queer culture was lucrative for a few decades. Gekyume was raised with a camera shoved in his face from day one. When his mother forces him to start doing music for real he will have plenty of producers and ghostwriters lining up to work with him before he drops a single verse. Industry planting on steroids.
>>130397091Didn’t Ice Cube’s son attempt a rap career too or is he sticking with acting?
>>130397091All that matters is if the music is good.
>>130397091>WHY do rap fans even care about "preserving" hip hop's "authenticity?">why do the oppressed and marginalized care that a musical subculture that gives voice to the oppressed and marginalized has been taken over by industry babies?
>>130404401There's Gen Z backpacker rappers if you care
>>130406022Who are they?
>>130405830Hip hop is an inherently political genre and culture, so yes it matters a lot if trust fund kids start ruining it.
>>130401597No, he’s the son of Bum Tickley
Rap and hip hop is dying cause the youth population is mostly Asian and Latino and they don’t gaf about black culture like white people do
>>130407556Latino, mostly. The demographics of every racial group in America (whites and Blacks especially) is going down yet Latinos keep increasing. Blacks went from 13% of the population to 11% today. Black culture doesn't resonate with zoomers and gen alphas like it did with the previous generations.
>>130407556Or maybe the political actors can't even make good music in this decade, they are embarrassing themselves and just have sloptubers elevate their brand.The last ever good political song was FDT and the guy who made it basically defused it and said it was just a song.The most recent political song was NHH and they got his career almost killed and shunned by the same people crying for political voices and songs. TLDR: The zoomers don't care and just wanna hangout and have fun. This is the generation of gucci gang, future and carti also known as the mumble rap/soundcloud rap era. Eminem is seen as super cringe and out of touch to them AKA the person who tried to gatekeep Hip-Hop from the youth who disrespected the genre. Youngboy is proud MAGA & Netspend is a white artist respected in the underground and somehow 2Smiley is popular. It's basically a Lords of the Flies situation while Drake/Kendrick fight and Kanye is basically Kevin Costner in Waterworld.
>>130403407They also staged a video of him singing "Changes" during his birthday last year:https://www.tiktok.com/@thejenesisgiselle/video/7465509788814740766You can tell it's staged because there's no way a moment like this would be randomly captured.They are very blatantly grooming him.
>>130407748How do you explain Gen Z's overwhelming hatred of Israel and Jews then?
>>130403852Bob Marley and Obama are both half white and people still think of them as black.
>>130407775Obama only became POTUS because his mother was white.
>>130407782You're pretty cool for a white boy, you're invited to the cookout!
>>130407774The 4chanification of the internet with the election, Kyrie Irving & Palestine. Kanye was the one who kicked down the politically correct door with the 2025 song. He activated Hasan & Young Turks to proudly attack zionists and dismiss the antisemite branding.
>>130407775Only because they're seen as "victories" for Black people in certain ways, e.g. Marley being a global cultural icon and Obama being the first Black POTUS. What great Black "victories" do North West and Gekyume represent?
>>130407775>>130408110So y'all wouldn't think this was a little Black boy growing up?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2dZg8ISnahM
>>130397360Because her music is nothing special. She also has a very rocky relationship with her father's estate.
>>130397198>>130404631flying lotus
>>130408486What musical dynasty is he a part of?
>>130397091Most contemporary rappers are industry plants so this would change nothing.
>>130403852Because as soon as any Black man starts making money, the first thing he does is breed with a non-Black woman.
>>130409304I mean wouldn't you do the same thing to be fair
>>130397091This is already whats happening
>>130397091>North will have a nervous breakdown and become a lolcow before college age>Lil Novi will probably just grow up to be a bad rapper but likable dude>Gek will get murdered just like his faggot dad and the tragedy of a child dying will be outweighed by hilarity of Xxxcrement's worthless fans being miserable again.
>>130405407>we wuz fudgepacker kangs
>>130411302Based
>>130405407Yeah he will probably end up doing reality TV instead.
>>130405407
>>130407775Gekyume is the same colour as a banana and North is only slightly darker than her mom.
Rich nepo kids get the guillotine too.
North West is actually a good electronic music producer for real though
>>130414934Then she should stick to producing.
>>130411302What will happen to Adonis?
>>130397328>I also think there's an element of nepo kids trying to copy whatever made their parents famous, because they think that's what fans expect of them.Doesn't seem like it's going to be that way in hip-hop. Will Smith's kids have made very different sounding music than he did. North's EP sounds like Carti, Rico Nasty and Molly Santana, not anything Kanye's ever made. If anything, I think the desire for authenticity and credibility, as well as the relentless clowning of past attempts like Lil Romeo, will force the nepo babies to go in a completely different direction from their parents.
>>130397091Ask Fantano.
>>130397091Black people won't let that happen.
>>130403407>Look at this video, for instance. Notice all the jump cuts? It’s 100% staged.People need to stop using this kid for internet clout. Once he's older he'll be mortified total strangers have been posting videos of every day of his childhood.
>>130397091Tl;dr it still wouldn't be music.
