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How did she become the most popular artist in the world? At least MJ had an otherworldly presence about him but Taylor is just so bland and uninteresting.
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>>130417421
>so bland and uninteresting
Just like the average 21st century consumer
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>>130417421
We live in a very bland and uninteresting time.
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MJ bland and uninteresting too
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>>130417421
She is as shameless as Drake with padding her streaming numbers and her music was practically designed in a lab to appeal to the most mentally-ill, misandrist, vapid and narcissistic era of women in the history of the world.
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according to the chatbot I wrote, she sucked a bunch of dudes dicks
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>>130417421
>constant releases
>taking advantage of people refusing to grow up cause they never have kids of their own
>she's pretty hot
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>>130417421
She is a Greek goddess but in the sense that she's the Millennial basic bitch personified in Platonic form.
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I'm not the audience but she articulates near-universal feelings, emotions, and aesthetics women go through. A really unifying figure for women really. She also started out country but she's kind of woke but not too much or too political. No tattoos. Dates the football player. Interesting that she's so huge at a time when culture especially music is really fractured. Her music is also simple and seems banal but as a social phenomenon it's all pretty fascinating.
https://youtu.be/wyK7YuwUWsU
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>>130418567
She's like an 80 yr old in a 30 yr old's body
That's why her songs where she tries to be sexy just sound so awkward, it's like listening to your granny sing about riding hard cocks
It's not like she's ugly but she just has zero sex appeal, it's kind of hard to put your finger on why but it probably has something to do with what you're talking about
Or maybe she's just an android
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>>130417421
>I don't know about youuuuu
>But I'm feeling twenty-twoooooo <3
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there are alot of bland and uninteresting people out there
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she talks about relationship problems. OP is confused because he only listens to rap, which is black men talking about reliationship problems.
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>>130417421
Popularity isn't about quality. It's about echoing what the masses are thinking. Taylor Swift sings about how guys get tired of her after 3 fucks. Most girls can relate to that.
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>>130417421
>the most popular artist
is she? I dunno man I feel like that shit is inflated by social media, I doubt people would recognize her all over the world
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>>130417421
She's basically a tabula rasa that white millennial women can project their own white millennial woman feelings onto. The musical equivalent of a blank slate male protagonist in a dating sim.
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>>130417421
That's why. She's universally marketable.
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>>130417421
her fans are females, who are all mostly bland and uninteresting retards, just like her.
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>>130417421
>why is McDonald's outselling my neighborhood restaurant which serves much better food?
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>>130417421
you are bland and uninteresting but you are not taylor swift
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you probably think that by being bland and uninteresting you will be taylor swift. this is not true.
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>>130417421
she's hot
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>>130417421
>How did she become the most popular artist in the world?
she did. bad bunny is
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>>130418867
>Taylor Swift sings about how guys get tired of her after 3 fucks.
Guys get tired of her after 3 fucks because she's a closet lesbian who doesn't like it. Its quite sad she got forced back in the closet after the Emily thing, honestly.
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>>130420309
TRVTH

you know you're hot when incels and jealous Karens bust out the "hurr durr she's a man" cope
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>>130420309
>>130420666
It makes me uncomfortable when gay men try to look straight by calling Taylor Swift "hot", it's obvious they have no idea what makes women sexually attractive. Probably best stick to fashion shows and interior design.
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>>130420249
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>>130420309
>she's hot
if you are into grannies
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>>130417421
>How did she become the most popular artist in the world?
Making music that appeals to millions of people and marketing it accordingly.

>>130420749
it makes me uncomfortable when gay men try to look straight by calling straight men gay.
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>>130420749
Shut up faggot
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Anything mostly listened to by women to is meaningless and always was. Lest you think "You Light Up My Life" meant anything because ten million basic 70s chicks bought that album.
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>>130420940
>Anything mostly listened to by women to is meaningless and always was. Lest you think "You Light Up My Life" meant anything because ten million basic 70s chicks bought that album.
I'm sure Warner's accounting department would have disputed that YLUML meant nothing.
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>>130420749
It do be like this
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>>130421456
Holy ESL
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>>130421461
i took it as ironic AAVE
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>>130420588
Lesbians don't exist, they're just hetero women who are frustrated that the man they wanted got away.
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she was slightly tolerable 2006-09. that was all, though.
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>>130420872
Grotesque flattened fridge body of a kpop doll without the pretty doll face of a kpop star. Worst of both worlds, none of the good.
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She write about emotion and thus captures the fag and woman demo
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>>130422050
>real men don't have emotions
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>>130422054
I got news for you buddy
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You stupid motherfuckers typing anything other than
>SHE HAD RICH PARENTS
>HER PARENTS RELOCATED TO NASHVILLE JUST FOR HER WHEN SHE WANTED TO BE A MUSICIAN AT 10 YEARS OLD!
>HER PARENTS GOT HER AN AGENT AT 12 YEARS OLD
>RELITIVELY EASY TO BREAK INTO THE INDUSTRY WHEN YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES TO MAKE IT EASY
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>>130422095
All the money in the world can't make you a success act when you have no talent. Stacey Abrams is the only notable exception, and her followup album will flop since the artists who wrote her first album all went into their own music careers.
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>>130422118
You don't need talent when other people who are actually talented can make songs for you.
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Just wanted to note that the Boswell Sisters were America's first true pop stars and they were from a wealthy Southern family. It was never not like that.
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>>130422118
what is your definition of "success"? who do you consider a "success"?
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>>130422148
Success is a good selling album, charting singles, and the ability to tour beyond a one hit wonder.

>>130422134
Except she writes lyrics and music. Not all of her songs she write music for (maybe 30-40%) but she writes lyrics on 95% of her songs.

I get it, her music isn't for everyone, but she is an actual artist on the level of Tom Petty.
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>>130422180
Let's take Evermore. One of her more popular albums.
The only song she wrote herself was the 6th song.
Every song she wrote WITH other artists
The biggest influence on that album was Aaron Dressner of The Nationals.
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>>130420588
>Guys get tired of her after 3 fucks because she's a closet lesbian who doesn't like it.
Nobody cares if a woman likes it or even consents. Is the pussy warm?
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>>130417421
>>130422148
>"success"
banker father with industry connections and capital
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>>130418644
>That's why her songs where she tries to be sexy just sound so awkward ... It's not like she's ugly but she just has zero sex appeal, it's kind of hard to put your finger on why but it probably has something to do with what you're talking about
It is awkward, but that's the answer. Women feel awkward about their sexuality. That makes her relatable to them. We're just not the audience. Women's sexuality is different at any rate, it's tied up in a lot of weird emotional stuff embedded in a wider social scene and how they're perceived by other women as much or even more than men. Also what turns on a woman is a man who is strong/physical but also caring in a way that makes him seem like a good partner. Think of an image of a guy with a nice bicep cradling a puppy. Look at women's tabloids and they will have a photo galleries of Ryan Gosling with his puppy. That is like crack.

Men engage in this epic mythic narrative stuff too but I think it's like Ronnie James Dio, like something that will get you ready for battle.
https://youtu.be/_R-tSFyy0Gs
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>>130423272
Madonna made a career of selling sex, but it never quite came off in her music where she sounds awkward and in pain most of the time.
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She's astroturfed to hell and back, you're telling me she was popular, than I don't hear much about her, and then suddenly she crashes ticketmaster or some shit one day and now everyone can't stop talking about her? Near an election as well?
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>>130421461
First day on the internet, you dumb fuck?
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>>130417421
>How did she become the most popular artist in the world?
White millennial women becoming the peak population demographic at a certain point between 2010-2020. Simple as. It's over now.
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trust me when i saw she's never gotten close to Elvis, Beatles, MJ level of popularity
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>>130417421
She got in the traditional way (Daddy's money + connections) and built up a fanbases right before the Internet ruined music forever. If she was 10 years younger she'd literally be a nobody.
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I’m gay and charlotte gainsbourg is sexier
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>>130423518
She literally has no relevance outside of retarded femcels who live through her.
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look at the Goodwill bins. there's a whole lot of Percy Faith, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Bobby Goldsboro, Engelbert Humperdinck, Herb Alpert, and so forth albums in there. they were huge sellers in the '60s, way bigger than any "cool" '60s artist. yet no one cares about them anymore. that's what Swift is, she's the Millenial version of this slop.
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>>130423628
I agree, except back then there was cool music so you didn't have to listen to Bobby Goldsboro. That's not a thing anymore, imagine if you took away all of the cool part of the 60s and left only the MOR slop behind and you would have what is now.
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>>130423628
>Engelbert Humperdinck
I assumed he was dead but apparently he's back on tour despite being 90 years old. I hope TayTay can match that with a world tour in 2079.
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When did it all go so horribly wrong?
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>>130417421
otherworldly presence? the pandemic really broke everyone's brain didn't it?
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>>130417421
White woman.
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>>130418478
>personified in Platonic form.

>>130418567
>she articulates near-universal feelings, emotions, and aesthetics women go through
>music is also simple and seems banal but as a social phenomenon it's all pretty fascinating.

>>130419075
>She's basically a tabula rasa that white millennial women can project their own white millennial woman feelings onto. The musical equivalent of a blank slate male protagonist in a dating sim.

>>130419203
>She's universally marketable.

why are fans of "real music" like this? do they speak like this in real life? is this why nobody likes to talk to them?
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>>130422248
I understand you don't know what it means to have a co-writer or collaborate on something.
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>>130423613
I get it, you don't have friends and you don't talk to women.

Just to make me laugh, what musical artists do you heavily listen to
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>>130424072
It Taylor Swift was genuinely good looking then she wouldn't be the mid queen. The music industry absolutely hates actually talented and good looking White women because the audiences hate that too. Women want to see themselves represented and they see that in Taylor Swift.
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>>130418567
>$13.99
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>>130424361
I get it. You're only friends with fat bitches who live vicariously through a walled hog so you think she's important. Protip: you're the only ones. Stick a fork in this absolutely irrelevant piggy. She's cooked
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>>130424105
>is this why nobody likes to talk to them?
But enough about the millions of times you've overheard your family say this about you
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>>130417421
Women.
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>>130422050
Gays don't listen to her.
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>>130420827
>posts GILF
>"herpa derpa Tay is old"
well I'm into grannies now. Damn.
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>>130417421
in a society in which women decide the direction of it, the most woman of al woman comes on top
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>>130425791
lmao you can't handle the truth can you. Enjoy dying like you live - alone.
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>>130420872

I would crawl over broken glass just to joyously toss Taylor Alison's salad. She's literally the ideal avatar of female sexuality.
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she makes background music to play at Ross while shopping for shoes
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>>130417421
She lost her virginity sometime between Speak Now and Red; you can notice the change in her personality at that point.
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>>130428262
how you tell?
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>>130428309
Went from the innocent girl-next-door persona of the first three albums to whining about dudes pumping and dumping her.
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>>130426854
>well I'm into grannies now. Damn.
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>>130428376
>>>/r9k/
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>>130427582
Imagine simping for this. A no talent, blown out pussy having retard who is inching closer and closer to pig territory every single day. Have you seen her mother? She's on the threshold of that. Downright ghastly. And here you are. Fighting for your life for her honor while she exposes herself as lame, washed up and irrelevant. Three albums no one remembers. Replaced by a new breed of younger singers she's so desperate to be that it makes everyone on earth cringe. You could have done something with your life but here you are.
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>>130428347
This face is the stuff of nightmares. Holy fuck.
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>>130423469
Yeah. I like Madonna (but I'm a homo) but I think you can talk about Madonna's music around other straight guys, but you're going to talk about Taylor Swift? Her audience is so overwhelmingly female.
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>>130428868
She's an untalented retard, but trying to imply that she's not one of the sexiest women alive just reinforces your homosexuality.
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>>130417421
Taylor is infinitely more interesting personally and musically. She's also an actual human and comes across as such.
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>>130429080
Are you fucking retarded? She has the body of a teenage boy and the only thing that gave her appeal was the cute girl next door vibe that she completely lost with all the plastic surgery as part of her futile attempts at keeping the wall at bay. Which part of her is sexy? The no hips or thighs? Her ghoulish lanket stature? Her utter lack of tits?
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>>130429409
some people just want to be contrary. swift has zero sex appeal. remember when she was dating karlie kloss and they had her sing at some fashion show. one of the other models even called her ugly and said she didnt belong there
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>>130423469
Madonna's voice has a lot more charisma and character though
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>>130429409
>>130429943
Niggas yous gays.
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>>130428930
comparing Madonna to Swift is rude. Madonna had an encyclopedic knowledge of classic Hollywood and theater, also she hung around the hip underground music clubs that Sonic Youth and Swans were in. Swift has the IQ and cultural knowledge of a pan of water, she probably watches the Disney Channel in her 30s.
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>>130431293
Madonna also innovated and reinvented herself several times. She was on the cutting edge from the '80s to the mid-2000s. Taylor's slop has barely changed musically or lyrically in 20 years. She is incapable of making an album like Ray of Light or Music or even Confessions on a Dancefloor.
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>>130431293
Madonna sucked
Stop putting pop slop on a pedestal just cause it's old
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>>130431293
>Swift has the IQ and cultural knowledge of a pan of water, she probably watches the Disney Channel in her 30s.
she has actually admitted that as a child her parents didn't let her buy CDs and her entire exposure to music was 90s-00s top 40. that is clearly why she just imitates Sheryl Crow Shania Twain and Avril Lavigne.
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>>130431350
Cope. Britney also clears Taylor easily, btw. You will never hesr anything as kino as Blackout from Taylor.
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>>130431391
>this pop slop is better than this other pop slop!!!
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Remember when she tried to jump on the Dubstep hype?
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>>130431448
Except the comparison is between pop kino and pop slop.
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>>130431474
>implying pop is anything but slop
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>>130420749
It's obvious that you're the faggot here

>>130420827
she looks cute in there
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>>130417421
>How did she become the most popular artist in the world?
I've been asking this shit for the last 21 years. I don't want it to be a race thing but I honestly think it is. I remember when she was a local act, the news station ran a story about her once, people have been glazing her since she was 15 or 16. She's got like four songs that are decent and the rest of her catalog is some of the most boring and generic music you'll ever hear in your entire life. But she represents the prototypical average white American, or at least how they see themselves, so they swallow her slop hook line and sinker. She's not doing any harm, so it's fine, but her actual entire career, including pre-fame, has been a real head scratcher for me. I can't believe people spend thousands, and wait for hours, and cry real tears over this boring ass music and musician.
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>>130417421
Is it true that means she's a black belt in sucking dick?
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>>130418567
Yesh
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>>130431830
>She's got like four songs that are decent and the rest of her catalog is some of the most boring and generic music you'll ever hear in your entire life. But she represents the prototypical average white American, or at least how they see themselves
If everything about her career was exactly the same except that she looked like Kilo Kish (who is an absolute cutie pie) literally no one would care about her music. We'd never even know she existed.
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>>130417421
She should show vagina once in a while u know
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>>130432188
I don't know who this chocolate bunny is, but my pp is extremely hard.
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>>130432757
Kilo Kish, makes indie art pop and experimental r&b. Very small fan base but she's well respected in the industry by critics and artists. I think her music is pretty cool, definitely more interesting than Taylor's music.
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>>130432188
>>130433114
so this is just the new Kelis, right? meaning Kaleidescope-era Kelis. wait a few years when she decides her alt R&B isn't paying the bills and does her own "Milkshake." can't wait for it.
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>>130433155
nah she's been making music for like 15 years already, doesn't sound anything like Kelis, no milkshake for her
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She has that slightly lanky doe look that I find endeering
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>>130424105
>Platonic forms
>tabula rasa
Sucks philosophy filters you
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>>130432757
I love girls with pony tails
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>>130417421
Taylor Swift became very popular, because she is exactly the same as 99.9% of women born after 1985 in NATO nations.
They are narcisistic, they reached 16 yo and they stagnated, still obsessed with their reputation, obsessed money and social status.
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>>130417549
At least he wrote, sang and danced. TS falls short in most of those.
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>>130417421
She's a Doris Day figure that will be mocked by future generations about her bland music
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>>130420309
She looks like a tranny
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It's that disney/country start plus she's safe, the Tom Hanks of music
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>>130433818
What tranny bars are you hanging out at? I need to visit those.
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>>130428262
>>130428318
Yea it was John Mayer
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>>130433848
Speaking of, John did a damn good job with Dead & Company.
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>>130433647
Read the haughty language in which Plato and the Platonists speak of all men who are not devoted to their own shining abstractions: other men are rats and mice.
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>>130431830
>She's not doing any harm
Many would disagree
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We've been living in a cultural vacuum for decades.
She filled this vacuum with the most focus-grouped pop you could come up with. Using numberless producers and songwriters. She basically applied the Madonna recipe of success minus the nastiness.

Plus she came from a well-off banker family, so she had capital and connections to get her on the showbiz circuit. Just like Bilie Eilish had. Trust fund babies that had no trouble finding a record label willing to promote them and get them on tours and on mainstream media.
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>>130429080
What is sexy about her? Genuinely curious. She looked pretty at best when 1989 came out but there's nothing beyond pretty about her. She could have held up nicely if she'd stop packing on pounds and injecting her face but it's too late for that. Stop being such a soft faggot who needs everyone to simp for his waifu
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>>130431350
Live To Tell alone clears everything in Taylor's catalog, you seething dipshit
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>>130417421
She represents all the white women in the world. White women see that and say
>thats literally me
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>>130417538
>We live in a very bland and uninteresting time.
2 big wars going on with high death tolls and one is a goverment massacring it's own people for not being mudslime allahru akabar enough

The times couldnt be more volatile. Unless China starts the war with Taiwan already. People are on thin rope the balance of life and death gets violated every otherr day.
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>>130435635
She's popular in the whole word though, even where there's no white women. It's just women period, not white women.
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>>130435674
No one cares. Let them all die over there away from my stuff.
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>>130435697
But you have to make yourself miserable worrying about it! Don't put on your headphones! Listen to my bullshit about politics!
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>>130431366
>as a child her parents didn't let her buy CDs
Why would anyone do that?
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>>130417421
The future is female and females are boring and retarded.
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>>130435674
>>130433903
that's not entirely true. the truth is more that cool people don't really make music anymore, they do other things/subcultures. Bowie had talked about this prior to his death.
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She sings about Chad, women love Chad. Ergo women love to listen to Taylor Swift. It’s worship
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>>130417421
All I'm saying is the Backstreet Boys were a pretty big deal too.
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>>130438695
It do be like that
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>>130417421
It largely boils down to the fact that she prefers anal over vaginal. Somehow this landed her on the top of the food chain
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>>130442969
Thanks for the tip, Ranjeesh.
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>>130417421
This anon gets it.
>>130418567

As a matter of fact, her popularity has been studied in places like Indonesia.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/377828888_Celebrity-fan_relationship_studying_Taylor_Swift_and_Indonesian_Swifties'_parasocial_relationships_on_social_media

It speaks volumes when non-western and non-Christian audiences can relate to your music.



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