What do you all think about the album Urban Hymns by The Verve? What about it compared to the other albums from The Verve? Very ballad driven but the heavier psychedelic stuff on here is great in my opinion
It's great but their first EP and LP are better.
>>130423117This was the epic, triumphant victory lap for britpop that Be Here Now was supposed to be.
i disliked the singles so never listened to the album
>>130423117its good but all their other albums are way better. storm in heaven and a northern soul are classic and often underrated shoegazy/space albums.
>>130423117this album aged like milk to me while Storm In Heaven/No Come Down era is fine wine.2 different bands though, Verve in the beginning were an exceptional 3 piece jam band improvising around simple groovy riffs while RA ad libbed over the top, it all changed when richard heard live forever and learned 4 chords, UH is just richards backing band. A Northern soul is the mid point and has some decent elements of both styles but still doesn't touch SiH's otherwordly spaciness
>>130424999OP here. I agree. Be Here Now was supposed to be Oasis' final breakthrough "greatest britpop album ever" sort of thing but ended up being an overproduced nightmare. The songs themselves aren't bad, they are actually really good, but the production completely kills it for me. I like Definitely Maybe and (What's The Story) Morning Glory?, and even Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants more than Be Here Now honestly. But yeah, Urban Hymns thankfully fills that void. Love it.
>>130426827It’s literally just BHN in a lot of ways but massively better. Still long and bloated and grand but with actually good songs and more tasteful production.
>>130426868I agree. Once again, BHN has great songs on it but bad production. Urban Hymns has great songs but way better production. If it's The Verve, I can tolerate the songs being longer, songs like The Rolling People and Catching The Butterfly are great songs that span either almost or over seven minutes long. Even their earlier stuff like She's A Superstar are pretty long but I still love because they fit the genre they were meant to be. Most of the Be Here Now stuff is seven to 9 minutes long and just feels dragged on. All Around The World is great but it has several "la la la" and "na na na" parts that stretch on for far too long. D'You Know What I Mean is good though, it is perfect. Either way, I really love Oasis and don't really "hate" any of their albums besides Heathen Chemistry. I really don't care to listen to it considering Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants and Don't Believe The Truth came out before and after it respectively. I still love Be Here Now even with the flaws that it has.
>>130424967this
>>130426827>Be Here Now was supposed to be Oasis' final breakthrough "greatest britpop album ever" sort of thingAnd that's exactly what it was, their best album ever and one of the greatest albums of all time. A huge pleb filter like 808s or Yeezus were on release, but unfortunately rockists are huge babies who are incapable of getting over their initial disgust response at the slightest change to a band's sound, unlike any other genre's fans, so they still insist it was shit.
>>130423117No way they would ever top this so I get disbanding. It's another case of the combo of singer and guitarist producing way more than the sum of their parts. It's a real shame McCabe isn't making records and elevating songs with his beautiful noise.
>>130425042This. It's kind of whiny Coldplay ballads as if done by oasis. Also this mong doesn't know what a sonnet is.
It's one of those where I'd rather listen to tracks individually. All back to back, they start to bleed into each other. That they're on the lower energy side definitely contributes to that, and also why my top track is Catching the Butterfly, bar none. The other standouts are: Sonnet, Weeping Willow Lucky Man, Come On>>130425571>this album aged like milkThis, but not really
>>130423117It's Ashcroft doing his best Noel Gallagher hommage while watering down what made The Verve great. Objectively 7/10, a bit too much superficial filler. On the other hand this is one of the albums of my youth and will forever be special. Alone With Everybody is better.
>>130432612Yeah I get that, many of the songs are of that ballad type that some people dislike. My favorite songs are The Rolling People, Come On, Weeping Willow, Lucky Man and Sonnet.Absolutely love this album.>>130428704Yeah this is them at their peak. When they reunited in 2007 or something and made Forth, it honestly didn't really feel like The Verve at all. The first EP (which is phenomenal), first album up to Urban Hymns are amazing, and you can tell "yes that is indeed The Verve", but Forth in my opinion went the more "modern" approach and changed the sound too much. But yeah, Urban Hymns is amazing.
>>130424967>>130425100Yeah they were better as a shoegaze band>>130434343This album is very similar to the acoustic tracks like Cast No Shadow from Morning Glory. Lucky Man and Drugs Dont Work sound like Noel could have easily written them. Its a good album and they pulled off the shoegaze to britpop transition better than anyone else (Ride Carnival of Light and Lush Lovelife in comparison are a lot worse)
Better than anything Blur put out imo
>>130437091The Verve definitely did a great job changing from shoegaze to britpop. It's especially great because you can still tell that it's The Verve because despite switching genres, they still kept some shoegaze elements like the guitar work for songs such as The Rolling People or Come On, as well as the long drawn out outros in those songs too which are similar to stuff like She's A Superstar for example. Cast No Shadow is also absolutely phenomenal. I recommend listening to the unplugged version on the 30th anniversary reissue. Lucky Man and The Drugs Don't Work are great songs too, despite them being more popular unlike Weeping Willow or Space And Time. Catching The Butterfly and One Day are great track that many miss somehow. The fact that the same band that did The Verve E.P. and A Storm In Heaven switched up but kept their identity intact somehow is wild to me, and I respect them for that. Gotta love The Verve.
>>130437091>cast no shadowyou might know this already but noel actually wrote that song with richard ashcroft in mind, so makes sense
>>130423117its good
>>130437091Wouldn't be surprised if Noel wrote Cast No Shadow after hearing History by The Verve desu
>>130423117Catching the Butterfly is underrated
>>130424999>rare knowledgable /mu/ poster
>>130423117>mahhhh laaaaahawwwhawwwdd
>>130423117He was the perfect Oasis reunion opener and played almost half this album. I actually was hoping for Velvet Morning, which is one of my favorites from the album. Out of the post-Beatles Britpop bands, Oasis covered The White Album territory but never really delved that much into psych except for Champagne Supernova I guess. The Verve covered the more psych side here without being too quirky about it, like Apples in Stereo.
>One day maybe we will dance again>Under fiery skies>One day maybe you will love again>Love that never dies>One day maybe you will see the land>Touch skin with sand>You've been swimming in the lonely sea>With no company>Oh, oh don't you want to find?>Can't you hear there's beauty in life?>The roads, the highs, breaking up your mind>Can't you hear there's beauty in life?
>>130437209anything is better than anything Blur put out
>>130423117I like the song they made about African fellas selling tat in Spain.
>>130427328>their initial disgust responseThat wasn't the case, people loved it. I was talking to an older lad at work who queued up for it when it was released and he had no idea it's this supposedly disliked album.
>>130441701Did he not play this absolute stinker? Fucking state of this lmaohttps://youtu.be/a0jxbliRYg0
Fey British faggots not rocking nor rolling. Lyrically, gay. If I wanted to listen to shitty poetry, I’d not read it. Lame in the way only British bands can be.
>>130442271It'll always be funny to me how you lot turned U2 into the biggest band in the world and all they had to do was a half arsed gay cowboy LARP
>>130442239>unc starts raping faster than Eminem Holy shit what a turd, never heard this
>>130442427Lover ooh ooh
>>130423117This is my favorite version of Bittersweet Symphony - Live Richard Ashcroft - Bittersweet Symphony (Live on The Chris Evans Breakfast Show with Sky) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8dVRByLvnQ
>>130423117It's OK Computer's brother but /mu/ never wanted to admit it because it was a Radiohead board for so long.
>>130423117A storm in heaven was better
>>130440775i’ll take down the only rooooaaad i’ve ever beeeeen downn…. been down!!
>>130442165one day is great but listen to space and time. phenomenal.
>>130442239Op here. I love the Verve and their first EP and Urban Hymns, but I listened to this for 35 seconds and turned this shit off. HOLY FUCK THIS IS TERRIBLE. Didn’t even know this song existed to be honest. Switching up from shoegaze to britpop to whatever the fuck this is a catastrophe waiting to happen.
>>130441701OP here. Oasis is amazing. The Verve are definitely far more into the psychedelic stuff than Oasis is. Oasis’ later stuff like Gas Panic! are psychedelic as well but not as much as Verve. The debut Verve EP and A Storm in Heaven are amazing as far as psychedelic shoegaze type stuff goes.
>>130423117>Mick Jagger on Valium fronting a Shoegaze band
>>130448943You sold me
>>130443972nice. he should release this.
>>130423117I liked it more when I was younger. I've heard all their early stuff before too.The only thing I still hum every now and then is The Drugs Don't Work.I never got how Bittersweet Symphony ripped off The Last Time either.>>130442239sounds like a Bieber song
>>130442239the song is ultra goofy, but holy mother of all keks what is that video? >released May 2025don't tell me he thought having animated Matrix wallpapers behind him was like... current as fuck or something lmao
>>130448693i listen to the whole album on a regular basis
>When the drums hithttps://youtu.be/F5Z2VCEn9uU?si=XtsnxO-x5irkNeP4&t=150
