What happened to punk?
How do you go from this....
...to this
>>130466113edgelord chuds that want to offend people>>130466121to being the offendedidk its a loss of teenage edginess thats what happened they got old and realized everything offended them. Syd is not even a nazi he is doing the equivalent of irl shitposting, it's literally so you go like>WHAT IS HE RACIST!?!? WHITE SUPREMACIST!? WHAT THE FUCK MAN!?!?!
>>130466111punks posed a threat that had to be taken care of by the government (aggressive white males wearing swatztikas). Large majority of it was just edginess and a fuck you to society, but it proved to actually bother the system
>>130466111Idk why are some people that treat pink like it's a dogmatic religion.Like, nigga it's just pop music for angsy teenagers who wanna shock their parents. It's just entertainment, it's not that deep
>>130466337punk attracts losers. not like drug addict losers, but more like, the kid who gets no attention and is dorky, but has anger in him
>>130466318the government cannot give 2 shits about some fucking tweens listening to badly composed music, at least they use instruments but no this aint it.It was because Antifa took over punk like around the mid 70s and they merged "urban-cultures". Antifa is the foreign element to Punk but it has got in so deep that it's part of it now. But initially Punk was just about pissing everyone off, it was just teenage rebelliousness against söy-ciety. Which is why Punk is cringe past 15 years old just grow up and get a job.
>>130466360turning punk from wearing swatztikas into becoming commie sympathizing culture warriors was 100% coordinated. ok so if you dont wanna say government, fine. But it was coordinated, and it came from the top
>>130466113>>130466121The first punks were just out to offend people, and it was easy to use Nazi imagery to do that.Doesn't work so well nowadays now that actual Nazi ideology is coming back into our politics and we have to live on the daily with that hanging over our heads. The richest man on the planet did Nazi salutes. You think punks want to look like the richest man on earth?
>>130466111The counterculture left became mainstream progressives and it turned out they were always closet bureaucrats.
>>130466409>the richest man on the planetthis is how I knew it was b8. Thats what retards believe
>>130466409>actual Nazi ideology is coming back into our politics and we have to live on the daily with that hanging over our heads.kys you fucking retard.
>>130466418the left is so openminded and tolerant that big corp can just mask their shit in tolerance and they'll all cheer for it. And im not a right wing guy either, im just stating the facts. Arm chari politics is all people have. The west is lost. Rebelling would just be a giant waste of time and lives
>>130466432unless he means jews and israel are nazis, I see where the fag is coming from, but that word doesnt mean jewish nationalists. Its specifcally a term related to the german party in world war 2
>>130466451>>130466466This is a music board motherfuckers shut the goddamn fuck up and take it to /pol/
>>130466111liberals trying to find an edgy identitynot even /pol/posting that's just the truth
>>130466409>The richest man on the planet did Nazi salutes.He... He didnt lol but believe whatever you want he did it palm up clearly lmao even the edits of that image put his hand more straight to smear him.Also the dude has like 1500 Jewish financiers do you think he really is a Nazi lmao? He even called Jews peak White because every Jew that finances him is Ashkenazi german-polish-russian ancestry.Elon Musk would oppose the Nazis because the Nazis wanted to destroy Capitalism.also its not a "Nazi" Salute is a Roman Salute like from the Roman Empire days but Hitler stole it because he thought he was rebuilding Europe into Rome or something delusional like that.Hitler stole a lot of aesthetics. The Nordic rune stuff tho that is Germanic.
>>130466572They have it but not in Punk, they have it with Radical Islam but they get scared everytime they realize that the Islamists are just using them and want to kill them for being gay and want to put them women in burkas or they beat them the fuck up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQmoiV0K37kLeftists atm have a serious lack of fangs they are not intimidating whatsoever so now in their desperation are incorporating people with actual mentally ill ideologies like terroristic jihadist fundamentalist islam which still has legal slavery mind you into their groups in order to intimidate rightwingers i guess. It's not been working out in fact they are flying too close to the sun and getting arrested for associating themselves with actual enemies that put the public at risk. In retrospective the last 6 years been wild to watch. Wars change global culture rather quickly. Of course they do.
>>130466111it got better
>>130466724Post the song
It wasn't gatekept well enough and got coopted by the system, now it's basically the system trying to larp as the anti-system.
>>130466409>punks used to offend people>the punks today offend mehmmmm
>>130466113they were being edgy. you didn't actually think they were nazis did you incel?
>>130466409No such as ideology more made up words
>>130466805Kek this. Punk is just as offensive as ever. The endless crying over it from pearl-clutching incels just proves this point. They're completely incapable of fathoming that they're now on the receiving end.
>>130466360I don't know if antifa was a foreign element. From what I've read about antifa, what people consider to be antifa today initially emerged out of the punk scene, as odd as that sounds, although none of it seemed particularly well thought out as far as I can tell. But my frame of reference is SLC Punk where the guy is like I'm an anarchist, no government / no rules, so the Nazi punks in town always pissed me off because that's like the complete opposite... and rebellion is one thing I understand but anyways we kicked the shit out of these kids every chance we could!>>130466398>>130466418It's a shift from informal to formal rules. Subcultures when they get started tend to be experimental and informal, and the ethics of the subculture or slang and fashion are learned from the people around you. It's embedded in the scene so people not sharing the ethic will be policed more by someone just going "this isn't that kind of scene, man!" Or there's a conflict and they just beat each other up which is what Nazi punk and anarcho-punks did. There aren't really any codified rules yet because it's still a wild, experimental sort of thing. But decades later, punk is now a "genre" with professionals and managers and festivals which operate at scale just like other music festivals. It doesn't have the same social base that it once did either.But looking at that banner, I don't think it's really the political/social ethic being expressed there which is at odds with punk, because if they weren't, then there wouldn't have been punks beating up Nazi punks in the 1970s over that stuff. What is weird and at odds with earlier forms of punk is the fact that they're putting it on these Orwellian-looking banners, and that does look bizarre. But the people in the crowd are also a bunch of strangers who don't know each other. It's not like a small D-I-Y scene doing shows in some shitty ballsweat venue where everybody hangs out at the same shows and the bands are their friends.
>>130466430The lady Gaga ramones the clash
>>130466839I'm not offended I just find it cringe, if you are punk keep being punk and if you are a leftist keep being edgy like this because its not working politically. Keep stunting yourself.
>>130466577You had never read mein kampf or understand reality you not listening
>>130466856>im not getting owned!!!!! im actually winning at politics!!!!
>>130466858i read mein kampf long ago he just complains about how Jews run Capitalism pretty much and says some pro National German phrases here and there.
>>130466878Yes.
>>130466507Everything is political, sweaty
>>130466892in what way? 10 years ago, America controlled the whole globe; today we are relegated to only the western hemisphere. A democratic president would have kept it how it was. You were fooled
>>130466856>I'm not offendedNah you are. Again, your endless tears in every "what happened to punk???????" threads proves this
>>130466577>also its not a "Nazi" Salute is a Roman Salute like from the Roman Empire days but Hitler stole it because he thought he was rebuilding Europe into Rome or something delusional like that.You are completely right, in fact, everyone is missing the point in this thread: All the punks like >>130466113 were not using swastikas to reference Nazis, they were just using it as a symbol of good luck and Buddhism, and you're an IDIOT if you ever think it had anything to do with far-right politics.
Soundcloud rappers are the new punk. It's just facts. >DIY spirit>mixtapes made in bedroom closets and FL Studio>fashion designed specifically to upset over 30>no care about being PC>cover art made on paint in 5 minutes>anti-industry
>>130466839Lol no. They've been anti-establishement, now they are pro-establishement. They used to offend majorities, now they offend minorities
>>130466923America controls all the oil in the world rn pretty much. I dont see a weaker American military, in fact this shit is stronger than ever and it impressed me because it shattered all my expectations in the last 10 years to today.I never seen America stronger and I think this power gap will keep increasing.
>>130466952actually the explanation is that punk was a successful social movement that's now been integrated into the culture at large. there are punk hiphoppers, there are punk astrologists, there are even nazis who think they're punk because they grew up in a world imbued with punk. they write the letters 'DIY' in China as a character - that's how much the punk ethos has infiltrated culture. people playing 'punk rock' today are larping, but they're on the right side of history, compared to losers who larp fascism on imageboards
>>130466932>your endless tears in every "what happened to punk???????" threads proves thisI'm not that anon whoever that is I probably even write different, I'm lazier when I type.
>>130466945It has nothing to do with agreeing with nazism and everything to do with being offensive. Sid is not a nazi.Also the Swatzika doesnt mean good luck you retard midwit lorelet. It means sun, it gets used as stars all the time in art. See art of Apollo in Greek vases he has a swatzika shirt and there is swatzikas in the sky. It means starts, sun, etc.It's not a 4 leaf clover you retard.
>>130466507Look at the OP you stupid ass. This is a political thread.
>>130467019you can't be this retarded to have so completely missed the point of the comparison
>>130466977>america controls all the oil in the world rn, pretty much, kinda, still, theoretically, in so far as, per se, in a way, i thinklol read the news babyis it not obvious to you that the commander in chief has sold out two thirds of global dominance to our rivals for personal gain? while running on America First? ofc it's not or your wouldnt have fell for it. trust the plan, right?
>>130466945>All the punks like >>130466113 # were not using swastikas to reference Nazis, they were just using it as a symbol of good luck and Buddhism, and you're an IDIOT if you ever think it had anything to do with far-right politics.Lol, there was a punk kid at my highschool that wore a leather jacket with a swastika painted over the front pocket. He said the same shit, and used to say it wasn't a real swastika because it was pointed the wrong way. But he was wrong, it was a full blown Nazi swastika. I saw him years later and he painted a cross over it to cross it out. I guess he realized he can't be going to local punk shows wearing a swastika like a retard.
>>130467091This makes it really clear that it's only ever been used by punks as a half-baked attempt to "offend" (aka get attention), rather than as a real political symbol
>>130467052I didnt miss it I got it you are claiming Sid Vicious was a nazi because why else would he wear a Nazi German Flag and so on right?Well he was not and is not a Nazi. He just wanted to offend people. Siouxsie was a nazi!!! No. She just wants to grab your attention with shock imagery. And she does.
>>130466986I'm glad I'm not into gay tranny music like you fags
>>130467111Well this was like 2006. I think this kid was just an idiot because he thought it was spinning in the opposite direction when it wasn't.
>>130467137the artist you posted literally made gay porn and has rainbow hair and a gay sex act in his name. take my cock out your mouth for 2 seconds and accept punk's total cultural victory, nigger
>>130467129Siouxsie is a Jew:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TAlS7J9Ofk
>>130467129>I didnt miss it I got it you are claiming Sid Vicious was a nazi Lmao you really didn't fucking understand holy shitI wasn't calling Sid Vicious a nazi, I was saying that your argument that Elon Musk didn't do a Nazi salute it was actually a Roman salute was fucking stupid and using the purposely bad example of the swastika to show how stupid that line of thinking is.Great reading comprehension you retard.
>>130467194messianic jew*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism
>>130466111punk has always been fake jewish "rebellion" from the beginning.NSBM was the TRUE rebellion
>>130467203I'm not saying that Elon did a Roman Salute he didnt do anything he just said good-bye. Elon is not a nazi of any kind. Dude couldn't be more pro Jewish. He said good bye and in his autistic adrenaline he just did a good bye that looked like a Roman Salute. >MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU>*touches his heart*>signals with PALM UP but his arm extendedOf course this shit looks like a Roman Empire Salute but he is just saying bye to all those Republican niggas in the crowd thats it.Lets watch it in fact:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VfYjPzj1Xw
>>130467210very true sanchez
>>130467210you only see judaism this way because they spent centuries as an outgroup in many parts of europe. they are one of the oldest scapegoat groups still prevalent in western society. there's nothing wrong with jews. just a meme that gets you to vote for guys who will dissolve your nation's unprecedented global dominance.
>>130467236there are literally already history books in schools teaching that Elon Musk gave the Nazi salute at Trump's inauguration lmao you're delusional grandpa
>>130467210>punk has always been fake jewish "rebellion" from the beginning.>NSBM was the TRUE rebellionPolitical Music has always been retarded and will always be for cringe manchildren i dont care where in the spectrum you fall. Music should be about beauty. I can tell you suck at playing or dont even play. If you make political "music" you are artistically bankrupt and uninspired.Bach did music for God and to bask in creation itself. You listen to music by a bunch of edgy teens that are angry and need jews to blame o algo. lmfao we aint the same.
>>130466111Still going dudehttps://youtu.be/sLz4rnkCAM0?si=nbqjHgb_YOD4V21q
>>130467243you're posting this shit after everything that happened after 10/7? Now even fucking Tucker is naming them and all the control they have.>>130467303Music has always been political.
The idea of punk comes from three things a transgressive nihilism of the uk youth in the 70s, and a need to return rock back to its roots of being simple, for everyone, youth led, energetic, dance music (yes you can dance to punk, you can pogo) and the psyops of Malcolm McLaren to try and sell his fashion brand to stupid teenagers.really if you are pol tard, you should be more into goth, post punk, ian curtis himself was an actual right winger.let the liberals have punk, its fucking lame to be punk in 2026, johnny rotten screaming noooooo future in the 70s made sense, liberals ruining punk by declawing it of any of its chaotic anarchist tendencies so they can say some stupid shit like "being nice is punk rock" is what its come to.if you are above the age of 25, and claim to be punk you are a pathetic loserif you are a teenager who claims to be punk, you are larping as something a boomer did 60 years ago, teen rebellion itself was just a way for capitalists to vacuum up all the disposable income of young people.is there even a way to rebel in 2026? most kids today are conformist wiggers with broclie hair
>>130467263ok i dont care but its not a nazi salute. Its an autistic salute if you want, nazi no. Elon sucks Jewish uncircumcised dick daily objectively speaking. He doesn't give a single fuck of the Jewifying the banks or the congress from the israel lobby or whatever. Trust me. He loves them. He is in their social circles and classes in fact. He does to their parties and has probably more jew friends than we will ever have combined.Elon is not a nazi, he is an autist billionaire.End of discussion.
>>130467350yeah, Israel is a fascist American vassal state using the traumatized Jews of Europe to colonize the Middle East since the allies had trouble controlling it after WW1. Duh. Do you think it's the country from the bible or something? what would that even mean? The majority of world jewry did not fall for this scam and have not immigrated to """Israel"""
>>130467350>Music has always been political.Unskilled shit music is more often political yes. Good Music is non-political. It it is inspired by themes of a higher kind. Music's kingdom is not of this Earth.
>>130466113For a lot of them it's because their generation believed the right wing were firmly on the way out, so making light of their imagery to be edgy was seen as coming with less societal cost. Plenty of OG punks were from minorities, or cared about minorities even if only in a contrarian way to fuck with the old folks in authority who didn't like minorities. Buzzcocks are probably the most legit of the big UK punk acts and were faggy as hell.
>>130467397> Israel is a fascist American vassal stateyou got that backwards. Israel controls absolutely everything in American politics. America exists to serve IsraelImagine Chomskyposting in 2026
Punk fans now couldn't even handle a single fucking Misfits song
>>130467427sure. except my explanation makes total sense and yours is mental gymnastics that probably took you 10 years of gargling /pol/ memes to achieve
>>130467427Corporate America****
>>130467442probably because they dont go outside, walk the streets and are actually god damn sons of bitches (single moms)https://youtu.be/7ON8zNL3e7c?si=a0G-wpwC74lR5CAg
>>130467405not really, if you want to get a feel for how the uk was in the 70s, look at bowie, the chameleon who always knew which way the winds were blowing in the zeigeistlots of people thought society was going to fall apart in the 70s, like Weimer germany
>>130467427Leftists genuinely believe that shit tho. They are not updated they dont keep up with the times.I dont think either controls each other but I think non-jew white elites agree with jew ashkenazi elites and thats it. It's mutual interest from Americans and Israeli's ruling niggas.They in fact fuk with each other all the time and want to cross their families with theirs. Thats whats happening. They want in the system, the banks that they own and the corporations of each other.https://www.sajr.co.za/another-trump-daughter-dating-jewish-man/its just elites stuff. the pro israeli tribalism is the religious component, the racial component is that they came from old money germany, poland, etc. to invest in America.
>>130467467Bowie is another shock exploiter he was never serious about his Fascist shit during the Thin White Duke era. Much less the Racial aspect of Nazism, I know that Fascism and Nazism are different so maybe thats how he thought about it too but he literally banged a black woman with his huge David Dick and has a mostly black son.
What are some actually good punk bands?>Choking Victim>Misfits >Descendants ???
non ironically, being an incel is probably the most transgressive sub culture of young people today, even women try to be "femcels"but there has yet to be a musician who captured incelism into a neat and presentable package bowie could have done it desu.
>>130467443literally go back to 2/28. Why the fuck is the US Gov OK with destroying the US economy to defend Israel? Why did they take all their military equipment from other places to defend Israel? Why the fuck did the war happen to begin with? Why does trump care more about Israel than the US?>>130467500>Leftists genuinely believe that shit tho. They are not updated they dont keep up with the times.Give it time. The right has lost all of its brain cells since 10/7. all the "based" right wing influences like Hermes, Fuentes, and Zoomer HIstorian are all shilling for ZOG intentionally or unintentionally, even supporting shit like Ukraine They've completely lost the fucking plot. Now with Trump doing all this retarded shit, right wing politics and ideas have completely been discredited for at least another decade. I think, now that the left split up from ZOG after 10/7, I think they will catch up and even surpass the right. Mangioni was fucking awesome. The left needs more of that instead of woke shit. I think that in the short term, the left will be ahead of the right now that the right is being humiliated by Trump and all the ziocons.
>>130467561I never got why girls are proud femcels, it's nothing to be proud of, literally just incel (girl)
>>130467537The guy who made Moon is black????
>>1304673712+2=5, END OF DISCUSSION
>>130467367>everyone ignored this good post>if you are above the age of 25, and claim to be punk you are a pathetic loserBased and truebeing a Punk fanboy and doing the bit after 25 is like wearing skate shoes at 40 years old it means you are a manchild and cannot provide an stable enough life to your partner
>>130466111It began as a fashion fad for spoiled teenagers>Marlboro>Ramones t-shirts>gel in hairAnd it transformed into a bunch of people saying no.>>130467236You're back to wearing the uniforms again. Doesn't help at all.
>>130467591>The guy who made Moon is black????No I mean in a very verbose way that David Bowie had a huge cock and had unprotected thick cum baby making hot sex with a black model and had a mostly black kid with her.So I don't think he is racist, maybe a fascist of the ultra nationalist kind but i dont think so. I think the Thin White Duke was just a character of his and got attention by saying edgy shit like many other musicians have done.
>>130466111Its punk to go against the sitting president. Conservatives can't be punk by definition
>>130466113>>13046612130 years vs 80 years. Has anything else changed from 1975 to today?>>130466856this is just retarded boomerism. you want things to be exactly how they were, for you. not for "punk"
>>130467665Good because I don't wanna be punk its cringe and for manchildren. I'm like 30 years old. I have a job and take care of myself.
>>130467701crap I'm 26 and don't have a job. I went to college last year and it's a huge humiliation ritual. Nothing worse that starting college late. NEVER do it
>>130467500this but America is very obviously the dominant partner in the relationship. Of course the leaders of Israel want to use their position for personal gain, like corrupt leaders everywhere. There are other countries that act like this (used to be more before we sold out). It has nothing to do with being jewish and the world is not controlled by 13 jewish bankers or whatever. That's just a proven effective way to hack dumb people to vote for you or raid a village or whatever.Israel was placed where it is by America after WWII because it is a pillar of Pax Americana. The Middle East is hard to control. Israel provided a population to inhabit the area (traumatized genocide victims) and develop a western democracy. That's why they have a strong military, because we want them to be strong to dominate the Arab civilization. Yes, Israel is culturally similar to "liberal" America (the most powerful civilization of all time and probably heir to the Earth and galaxy tbqhwyf), that's the whole point.Netenyahu may not get it, but watch, America will throw the Israeli Jews under the bus once the project is complete. It's not a Jewish state it's an American state. We threw Germany under the bus after they thought they could do what we do. They couldn't and honestly they never could have, so America bitch slapped them and showed everyone how it's done. Israel was part of that plan. Netenyahu may believe there are more than 3 pie slices in the NWO and that he's getting one, but he's delusional / enthralled. Once we crack the Arab thing, they're done.>why does trump...because he is a corrupt leader selling out his country for personal gain. why do you think he gave up world domination to split it with China and fucking scumbag Russia?
Trvke nvke incoming Being actual punk was never cool, only the clothing was cool
>>130467719the government unironically can help you look for a job that is guaranteed to hire you but it will be a shitty wagie job. So go to a government office and ask if anyone is hiring.I hope you have a fucking car at least...
>>130467719I went back to school at 28 after being a wagie for years. Finished at 31. Got hired directly from my internship at $42/hour. Yes do it.
>>130467747I don't want a shitty wagie job. I want a similar job to everyone else my age. I'm not going into debt and wasting 4-6 years of college for a shitty entry level job. I can't have the same salary as a 21yr old because I have more shit to do with my life. I want a job at least in my field (EE). I expect to catch up with people my age by the time I'm 20 because if I don't I will kill my mother as a punishment and then kill myselfNo I don't have a car. too expensive.
>>130467367>if you are above the age of 25, and claim to be punk you are a pathetic loserthis includes all the incels that are STILL saying being conservative is punk. i saw one just last week
>>130467733No. It's uncomfortable to admit but the nazis are kinda right about the jew banking shit they dont control all the banks some are owned by Irish billionares and greek or polish billionares but a lot, a fuck ton of the financial system is Jew owned. It is what it is. Europe allowed Usury then Europeans emigrated to the US as the country was becoming an economic powerhouse so that's what they get. They got the Usury.I'm not saying Jews are inherently bad, they are people, they are tribalistic though because the Jewish religion is tribalistic af us vs them, so its Islam and others. Most of Israel is Mizrahi Jews aka Brown Jews but their elites are almost all Askhenazi old money. Loan Shark European migrant Jews. And they won cant blame them they played their cards smartly. The "right side" of history people dont want to admit it but it's in the hands on who wins. Period. And Israel won.
>>130467770It's not the same thing having job experience and a life and then going back to college and improving your prospects, and (re)starting at 25 with NOTHING to show for it and being exactly the same as an 18 year oldthe later is pure humiliation and being around other 18yr olds is more suicide fuel. Everytime I go to class I always have suicidal ambitions. I fucking hate being in this postition. I want to get a masters just so I can at least be in a better spot since only having a bachelors at this age is horrible
>>130467818Keep up man the better salary might be worth it just finish up.
>>130467774Nigga... If your job is taken and there is no spots then you are fucked just take the shitty jobs. In this economy any job is honorable.
>>130467818Who cares stop comparing yourself to them. I was 28 going back to uni with 18 year old so I know how you feel. I only worked dogshit warehouse jobs so it's not like a had a ton of valuable experience. You're in a better spot than I was. You're only 26 man.
>>130467853what's the fucking point? the "better" salary is just the income I missed out on in my 20s. People who started in their 20s have already saved up money to live a proper life. I have neither the time nor energy to spend 10 fucking years till I'm in my 40s to "make it" I either get it by the time I'm 30-32 or I will kill my mother and myself.
>>130467794Wow financial services are commonly owned by this group due to historical factors, that must mean it's a conspiracy to control the world economy. I can tell you've never had a real job.>I'm not saying Jews are inherently bad, they are people, ...>I'm just saying I expect them to act mechanistically in accordance with bronze age tropes, because I don't see them as being actual people with intelligence and reason, like myself>/pol/ meme slop he thinks """supports his worldview"""you're just kind of dumb and not happy with your life, admit it
>>130467870no job > shit job. nothing is worse than a humiliation ritual at a mcwagies. and at my age I don't think they'll even let me work a wagie job any way.>>130467885Life is a fucking competition. specially for HR. why would they hire you when they can hire a 21yr old?a 30 year old CANNOT be paid the same as a 21yr because he has more shit to pay for in his life. a 21yr old only needs money for his games. a 30 year old has family, taxes, bills, food, and much more.
>>130467946mcwagies is sick and you can meet hot goth girls there retard just go get the mcwagies and looksmaxx and get a gf co-worker.
>>130467794guess what the majority nationality of the financial CEOs involved in the great recession was. i'll give you a big hint: it wasn't jewish
>>130467961anon...4chan memes aren't real life. none of that will happen. you'll be known as the creepy unc.
>>130467986Irish? German?
>>130467986American?
>>130468009how Unc are we talking? I'm at 30 and I look 21 no cap but I'm looksmaxxed and I have healthy long hair.
>>130467961the girls there are kids and I'm not interested in younger girls. Plus even if I was, women like actual older guys, not 18yr olds in 30 year old bodies.and "goth" girls are fake. I can't land any girl and you expect me to find a unicorn 1-in-10000000 goth girl? she's probably with chad anyway
>>130467818I went back to school in late 20s to get an actually useful degree, got student loans to pay for it, due to my age was considered for management positions while I was still working on the degree, landed one, finished degree, got good paying job, and am able to pay off loans, own a home, support wife, etc. Honestly not that hard just filled out a lot of forms. Don't let depressed people get in your head lol
>>130466111what happened was that punk died with AIDS and what's left of it is corporate punk
>>130467946There are 20 year olds with three kids and 36 year olds with no kids. Life isn't as formulaic as you seem to think it is. Lots of variable. There are also plenty of reasons to hire older people, for example they are typically more responsible, mature, reliable. They're less likely to call off because of a party the night before, etc. You seem to have a defeatist attitude anyways though so there isn't much reasoning with you.
>>130468055I just want to get this shit over with ASAP. at my age I hardly have any energy left in my body. I sleep for 8, 12, even 20 hours and still feel tired. I'm always fucking tired. I'm sick of it all. and it's only going to get worse. My body is already failing and having health issues. My stomach is always acidic and I can't swallow food properly. I don't think I will live long. even if you count out suicide, I think I won't last till 40. I just want to just "finish" my life at 32 so I don't have any more problems after that. I'm not chad so can't get married so basically my life ends the moment I get a job, and then I just kill myself I guess.sad I can never have the "college experience" at my age and I just have to ignore everything, freeze my life for 4-6 years, and get the degree. no fun. no happiness. no nothing. it is what it is.
>>130466111i've never met nor even seen a punk in my life... wonder why? only metalheads, and they always turned out nice
>>130468122most punks are losers tbqh they just dont handle life well, they are anti-work so that leads to poverty and underperforming.metal guys get jobs you see them at home depot with their hair buns and they dont look that metal at all while working but when its concert time they pull out all their edgy shit.
>>130468072>There are 20 year olds with three kids and 36 year olds with no kids. Life isn't as formulaic as you seem to think it is.there is a social "maximum" age limit for doing things where you can't do things past a certain age anymore either due to being more mature, social pressure, or just not having energy.it's the reason you don't play in a kid's playground as a 30 year old, or do retarded shit the way you did as a kid. in a reasonable healthy society, you are expected to grow the fuck upgoing to college without ANY PRIOR EXPERIENCE at 26 is suicide (not the same as having a job, family, life experience, etc and then going back to college). it's basically already over. you get your degree and the first question HR asks is "what have you been doing for x years?" it's over. you can't answer that without lying. you're fucked.>There are also plenty of reasons to hire older people, for example they are typically more responsible, mature, reliable.yes but those are actual older people, who have job experience. not the same as an 18 year old in a 30 year old body.I'm not a defeatist. I'm only telling you the truth. there is only one truth and everything else is a lie.
>>130468237just finish up your degree and stfu you whine too much, do your homework bitch
>>130467210Correct
>>130466111Post-punk made punk music redundant and obsolete
>>130468170 I think metalheads are peculiarthey're just so unlike the usual crowd, serious, and not really troublesome (and other things too).. unless I'm romanticizing them way too muchat least the ones I've noticed, which are more or less the ones you meanwhatever, maybe in my region there just aren't many punks... it's not like I expect to spot them by their clothes or anything btw, I just don't think I've ever heard anyone here say they like punk
>>130468557metalheads are mentally 14, otherwise they wouldn't be listening to metal
>>130468586mean... there are others with values, principles and they're actually genuineI definitely wasn't talking about the ones who are extremely edgy all the time, they are separate.. but they can be funny
>>130468586As if punks are any more mature
>>130466111Adventure Time. It sounds like I'm joking, but think about it. It was fucking Adventure Time.
>>130468822kek
>>130468586metal fags are way more mature than punkers and they are manchildrenpunkers are as mature as hiphop retards who glorify crime and end up getting shot trying to make it in the drug trade business.>>130468557No you are right you see metal guys from time to time at the gym they got their shit more or less together. They keep to themselves they are extremely autistic though but keep to themselves.
>>130468937>They keep to themselves they are extremely autistic though but keep to themselves.lol i've already talked to some on this board... and maybe they don't have as much 'autism' as you thinkthey're really smart and honestly, they even render me somewhat nervous sometimes
>>130466111You never came across pic related then? And similar examples stretching back for a long time
>>130466839you can't be vaxxed against covid AND be Punk
>>130466111it was always fake and gay to sell clothing to retards
>>130466113reminder that back then, most of the irl literal hitler supporting nazis (and their surviving victims) were still fully alive and around, vs today when they've all died off and "muh fascist nazi resurgence" is defined as believing that national borders exist
>>130467547Nirvana
>>130469721>is defined as believing that national borders existand defending pedophiles, don't forget that
Surely any vestige of punk was permanently by 24 years of Warped Tour. How can you all remain so attached to it?
>>130467210>we're rebelling against society>by idolizing a totalitarian police state society that doesn't exist anymore
>>130466844>punks beating up Nazi punks in the 1970sback then nazis and antifas were secretely friends, all knew each other, and regularly switched sides. it was all a fucking LARP and should have stayed that way. decades of unhinged antifa managed to finally make nazis actually the cool guys.
>>130471095>nazis actually the cool guys.to whom? a bunch of brown incels in the internet? lmao
>>130466111I thought punk was about anarchy? What are all these rules?
>>130466111>>130466113>>130466121>"punk", both then and now
>>130466111I think it's fine that punk is strictly for fat hideous trannies. The music is garbage anyway.
>>130471184anybody with 2 brain cells, aka not you
>>130473550it's not ok that fat hideous trannies have taken over absolutely everything.what's funny with this board is that looks like it's only 50/50
>>130469953no no nazis are still antisemitic
>>130474441ok brownie lmao
>>130466111>What happened to punk?Nothing. It was always a haven for performative faggots
>>130471482>"Welcome to hell" signAh yeah, Satan is cool, but don't you fucking dare be rude!.
>>130466113Nobody cared about the bloody lolocaust back then, it was a PR campaign to get the ball running
>>130478257Counterculture is a tool for industry.
