How do we save Punk?
>>130470260post the full screenshot, it's even worse
>>130470273Punk might be a lost cause at this point.
>>130470260Punk doesnt need saving from loser fascist neckbeards from 4chan
>>130470356>loser fascist neckbeards from 4chansuch as you?
>>130470273I'd love a source on this story that isn't a twitter screenshot. Not that I don't believe @ManDaveJobGood of course but looking at his page and it's pretty obvious he might be unironically special needs so I'd really just appreciate an actual source on this matter.
>>130470260Make it fascist-coded again
>>130470419it is 99% believable.the 1% I don't believe is that current year "punks" would even attempt to make secret shows during lockdowns.only NSBM did that.
>>130470260>>130470273
What's facism?
>tell someone in punk thread that punk is an ethos>that just because you don't wear the uniform doesn't mean you can't be punk >get told that's a poser point of view It's over
Why do you care? It's not like you go outside anyway.
>>130470273>source: just trust me bro>>130471008>i want it to be true so it is
>>130470312It was always fake commoditized "rebellion" in which trust fund kids played bad music poorly to advertise for clothing lines. Hate to break it to you. I don't know why people refuse to move on from this moronic '70s fad.
>>130470260We dont. It’s gay normie shit. Every normie man and bitch has tattoos, piercings, and dyed hair. Punk now IS the man. You rebel AGAINST it. You do this by becoming a Chud.
Corridos are the new punk, it literally got banned in mexico
Real Punk bands actually got banned or made an impact in culture. Good bands actually went out of their way to gatekeep their music and audience.
>>130470260Why would you name your genre after guys that get raped in prison I don't get it?
Why should punk adhere to social hierarchy?
>>130470260You don't. Post-punk has always been the superior genre
>>130470260Dont. Just let it die alredy
Punk = Garbage Unskilled RockWith how acessible music theory is now due to the internet you should not be making it.
>>130473268>it paints me and my beliefs as a piece of shit so it can't possibly be truekys faggot
>>130470260>MECRH
>>130473443Corridos didnt get banned from mexico. What the government did was ban concerts that play songs with narco themes. What happens if they disobey? They just get fined, they dont throw them to jail, they just put restrictions so they get some bank. They just did that so the government looks good even though the president is openly defending cartels right now. Hell, they even play that shit on the radio everyone can listen to! War against cartels is fake and gay, literally the most obvious controlled opposition. Look at this mayor openly singing songs glorifying drug traffickers https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XHSxFFvedwECorridos are literally pro governent so no, they are not the new punk
>>130470260I have no problem with listening to some old punk albums but as a live event it's over. Nobody old enough to remember when it was good could even tolerate being in a room that loud and uncomfortable.
>>130474424>if you don't blindly believe everything you hear about leftists you're a leftistkys retard
>>130470260you gotta kick out all the fat gross jews to bring it back
>>130470260Punk is for larping faggots who want to appear edgy and anti-establishment whilst agreeing with everything the establishment promotes. If you listen to any of it you should be ashamed.
>>130473160Trump getting democratically elected and reducing the crime rate is le fascism
>>130470260>implying "punk" is worth saving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzOzSBoJoKcthis shit is so gay, bunch of flailing retards that think they are tough kek
just listen to metal
>>130470260Don't listen to any band formed after 2000 (no one does anyway)
>>130470260By kicking out chuds who will never belong at a punk show
>>130470260People are just slovenly cynics with persecution complexes now. Even something like punk rock requires too much get-up-and-go for the people of this era whose motto is "Just get a bag" and for whom Euphoria is part of the zeitgeist.
>>130470260you cant because its a relic of the boomer/gen x generations. its a late 1970s genre/style of rebellion, the further you get from that moment and context the cornier it gets. by the late 90s and the era of pop punk and "xtreme" marketing punk was already a punchline, a costume for teenagers
The problem isn't having morals its this performance if moral superiority that millenial leftists love to put on>no racismRacism is usually too subtle to be seen or heard at a bar. All people are racist no matter what they tell you>No facismMost people aren't fascists, but might accidentally support it by holding authoritarian views on specific issues. The ones who openly identify with fascism are only found in gangs or in loser chatboards like this one>no sexismSexism is just the natural conclusion to dealing with women, its the only way to nerf their privilege >homophobiaI wasn't homophobic until having to deal with gays regularly, they sure are annoying soul damaged creatures, but like all things it's best to just accept others for what they are>transphobia Its become extremely socially acceptable to just be a straight up Trans hater the late 2010s early 2020s woke movement was an extreme misstep in optics>xenophobiaEveryone is a little xenophobic, its a flaw youre meant to grow out of instead of growing into it>ableismHelp others out when you can i guess but retards are pretty annoying >agismGetting old is the ultimate fuck you from the universe >classismThats rich coming from punks who mostly get off at being hateful towards those more fortunate than them. People really need to sit down and think about their relationship to class>fatphobiaGet off your lazy fat asses and stop eating like pigs, people if anything should be more fatphobic
>>130477630Rightoid 4chan incels think they're "the real counterculture actually" because they don't understand the real world at all
>>130477660they are still saying this even after trump getting elected. yup, nothing more counterculture than supporting israel and having the entire US government agree with me
>>130477630>its a flaw youre meant to grow out of instead of growing into itGrowing out of it is impossible when you've went from a society that might have one or two foreigners of a strange skin tone in your neighbourhood (a scenario where growing out of having suspicions towards them is natural) to your country's entire social fabric being conpletely transformed to the point where you feel a stranger or a migrant on your own ancestral soil. Within the modern context, growing into xenophobia is the only natural conclusion.I used to be pretty progressive and accepting of fags as a teen/young adult too before all this post-OWS hyper rainbow capitalism and transsexuality as a trendy subculture shit became the norm. I yearn for the rise of l a murderous Hitler-like authoritarian by this point.
>>130470260nothing says Punk like a nice long list of rules
>>130477783You tell them sister. They Boys is the new punk rock!
>>130477837>no argument>positively seething because she knows i'm right
>>130477910What "no argument" you had the TV show equivalent of a "orange man bad" wojak shitpost mankrolled by fucking amazon that the director pushed as being "punk rock", and it did ironman numbers. Yeah man, Jeff Bezos. OG punk.
>>130477812Its really easy to not be homophobic or xenophobic when you dont have to deal with foreigners or gays. At the end of the day foreigners ARE weird and annoying and dont want to conform and they are becoming more common, but that's no excuse to be explicitly hateful and violent toward them. Ive spent a lot of time with immigrants and all stereotypes are true except most Indians want to stay in India, most Chinese want to stay in China etc, and a large portion of those here want to return home someday. Its not this huge replacement thing everyone's worried about. Same goes with the gays that rainbow shit was just a fad, its no excuse to become so hostile
>>130470260The only true punk rocker was GG Allin. Everybody else is a poser.
I’d be embarrassed if I were him. The entitlement and lack of respect. More concern about who’s the biggest dick literally and figuratively.
>>130478147I'm assuming you're refering to the post above yours>The entitlement and lack of respect.Isn't that what punk is about though?
>>130477933keep telling yourself you're punk because you share the same positions as the pedo-led federal government
>>130470260>welcome to hell>there's a list of rules enforcing leftist policiessounds about right lol
>>130478491Keep falling for the left/right false dichotomy constructed via monopolized media agenda setting to keep us in prisons of "identity" to prevent us from collectivizing against the military industrial complex, corporate takeover, and Federal Reserve banking empire which has enabled a shadow economy of human trafficking and slavery to "elites" above the law.
Have it sell out.
>>130470260I am a person of color and I won't enter stores unless it specifically says "no racism" on the outside.
>>130470260The revolution became televised. The Ramones were a nothingburger, known for their t-shirts, not their music. Malcolm McClaren and Vivienne Westwood noticed and improved - they had the perfect marketing example after all: The Beatles. Westwood built a hugely successful mainstream career on top of The Sex Pistols being banned everywhere.Punk has always been about conformity. You were not a real punk unless you wore the uniform with torn jeans and safety pin piercing, as well as the hairdo. If your band wasn't banned on public radio you had no idea what you were doing. Meanwhile Westwood laughed her ass off, selling her shoddy dresses to the lucky few at premium prices.Punk became mainstream with The Pogues, not The Clash. Rightfully so. It were The Pogues which got their foot in the door at folk festivals, got air time on the radio as well as prime time tv. By then the grunge scene in the US was already well under way but nowhere to be seen, and The Pistols and The Clash were a distant memory. You had the "Chaos Tage" in Hanover, Germany, and the Skinheads in England, and that was basically it. Until Nirvana became popular (rightfully so) and the whole fashion industry started again, with vintage clothing.All in all that's pretty harmless.Today political ideas have become the new fashion industry. Before, you wore a nazi t-shirt for shock value. Today moral values, whether racist or leaning towards hospitality, have become marketing goods, aimed at serving nation states, social media accounts and corporate interests alike.Today you save punk by simply opting out of those 3. Grow and cook your own food. Make your own clothes. Fuck smartphones. Fuck social media. Start from the bottom up.
>>130479130>The Sex Pistols>The Ramones>Thesus postpossible false flag
>>130479130>Punk has always been about conformity.every subculture is about conforming to a group you gargantuan brainlet
>>130470260>NO FATPHOBIAYeah I'm scared some fatty will pull me into her orbit and sit on me.
>>130479284Explain picrel
Lmao ya I think I did it wrong I don’t think his Brain works when he’s mad. He looks really silly right now. Talking about people babies is sick though. He does it all the time. I’m just bored
>>130477660>t. 19 year old>>130478491The drumpf administration is weaksauce and would pass most of the rules on that door
>>130470260We need a punk revolution now.
tuff as fuck & not cringe at all. i love the gas station they got good food down at the gas station
>>130473331>It was alwaysAnd you know this… how? You weren’t even a twinkle in your dad’s nutsack until 2008. “Always”. Stfu.
>>130477660every single accusation statement by a leftard is pure projection. every single time. mentally 4 years old
>>130470260The first thing is that all this stuff about sinning and hell is not punk, if that were to would get called hel or dismal land or something like that anyways dang and damn are not like hell stephen greenblatt talks about hamlet and the protestant idea of purgatory and that’s important but only secondarilyBecause secondly and not second line-dly because unsecond line-dly and yet also like second like muttered in an undertone with a mute and the smell of low tide emanating from everything and the sound of keyboard cat on the blessed keys anyways the sound distortion is very important to punk rawk, thaz wut greg sage alwayz claimed
>No classismCool, that means my yuppie ass can go inside and if someone gives me shit, I can report them to the management and get them thrown out.
>>130490912you always could lol they don't let the poor kids into white leftism
>>130473160not getting gang raped and murdered by thirdies
NEWFAG TO PUNK HERE ANY ALBUMS LIKE ZEN ARCADE OR RITES OF SPRING
>>130492379One last Wish - 1986Fugazi's discography
>>130473443By your logic, narcos are punks? lol pinche pendejo. Mátate pinche drogadicto.
>>130492379Minor threat's discographyBad Brains' discographyLook into other revolution summer bands
>>130473160"anything I don't like"
>>130473160the state controls you, militarizes you, and tells you what to do, but for the purpose of upholding socially conservative ideals and hierarchy, which makes it distinct from other authoritarianism. it reduces the individual to a subject of the state and property of it, man a solder/worker slave and woman a breeding unitof course, the term is used for basically any sort of authoritarianism nowadays so its kind of meaningless
>>130470260ALL music is dead. But the Underground lives...
>>130475068>>130473268>>130470419Buddy, they went after Anarchists who publicly expressed skepticism of the vaccine. Even Penny Rimbaud was accused of being a Fascist by these people. It's wholly believable:https://consequence.net/2021/05/punk-show-promoter-vaccine-ticket-prices/
>>130492379Listen to Unwound
>>130478534this
>>130486663>no uGreat argument incel
>>130470260Make punk hate again. And friendly reminder to make fun of PC retards, they are part of the reason we can't have nice things.
>>130470260punk is dead let it rest>>130485986nta but have you heard of reading? maybe start with anons post>>130479130>>130492379wipers
>>130473160It's when Italy becomes based
>>130477310Yeah jumping around like a faggot next to a bunch of crusties that either don't have access to running water or simply choose to not shower is such an honor.Attempt to gatekeep all you want but WE ARE EVERYWHERE.
>>130497748>Make punk hate again. And friendly reminder to make fun of PC retards, they are part of the reason we can't have nice things.people don't form bands to get shit on, harassed and boycotted by trannies and unable to play anywhere except hammerskins private venues. it needs a cultural revolution, people with balls and stuff i can't even imagine.
>>130498430Because most people for some bizarre reason bent the knee to the PC fucks.20 years ago even the left leaning punk bands were not this politically correct. A lot of it would probably even be considered right wing today.And now everyone is a sensitive fucking piece of shit that demand special treatment for everything.The DIY spirit also seem to have died (few exceptions of course like with most things).
>>130498461>Because most people for some bizarre reason bent the knee to the PC fucks.I know I was there 20 years ago, right in the DIY emo faggot scene, it was already becoming insufferable when I left. As many others I switched to black metal, that's when punk died as far as I'm concerned. DIY is still strong in metal but filled with other kinds of assholes and grifting crooks. I don't care anymore about any of those guitar music genres anyway.
>>130498845>DIY emo faggot sceneNo wonder you became a blackie lmao.Funniest thing about all this is that old punk were all about "WE DO NOT CONFORM!" and modern punk is all about "CONFORM! CONFORM!".
