Beethoven editionhttps://youtu.be/idRzVitsDowThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>130443877
I love classical music <3
>>130475639kill yourself.
>>130475639live yourself.
Rec all Palestrina recordings you enjoy and I will listen to them.
Chopin was a genius and his best works are without a shadow of the doubt his waltzes and mazurkas. If anything else would disappear I would be happy with just those for the rest of my life.
Wagner has become my only relief in this world. His music speaks to me in ways that I can't even describe. I feel soothed and sated, all my agony and disturbance is emptied in a blank canvas that Wagner created, like a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a young boy's shoulders to let him know that the world hadn't ended.https://youtu.be/gcfxxtl4KLw?si=rCiBFCBupRbmLKUj&t=396
W.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r75s8q56eYc&t=247s
>>130476012Ballades, scherzos and sonatas are the greatest works of the entire piano literature thoughbeit.
>>130476012>waltzes Correct >mazukas Wrong>>>/polonaises/
*is bisexual in your path*
>>130477099Bi or homosexual, no way he was straight.
Why does he have the absolute best recordings for anything Gershwin? Is it his background in jazz?
>>130476012Who recorded his waltzes and mazurkas best?
Late Brahms > Chopin
Late Debussy > Brahms
>>130477471Cortot, Rachamaninoff, Rosenthal, Moiseiwitsch, Lortat, etc.There's no single set of the whole package.
>>130477471>>130477532I'll also add Friedmanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nl7P6uZ0gQ
>>130477471Not sure about the waltzes as an entire set, but I really enjoy Rubinstein's *first* recording of the Mazurkas that he made in the 30s. Many of the pieces he had just learned for the first time, and young Rubinstein is generally a lot more free and interesting than older Rubinstein. But, of course, you just can't beat Friedman in the Mazurkas. I would also add Maryla Jonas, who is rarely brought up here, but she did exceptional work in Chopin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF91sYFAamo&list=OLAK5uy_mwrSOWwsfIJkgN3Hv0IqVhjLx-u5I09xA&index=21
>>130475316Was Herr Beethoven the last of the classical composers or the first of the proto romantics? He's definitely a bookend, I just don't know which one. I also love his piano compositions much more than his other stuff.
>>130476012You are an incorrigible buffoon if you don't love Chopin's nocturnes the most. Seriously, go to your room right now. Good grief!
>>130477755Trvke
>>130477738He was both. That's why he's the best ever.
>>130477738im pretty sure hes officially late classical, but he is recognized to be the one to jumpstart the romantic era
>>130477738Nah it was a little more transitional than that. Schubert was doing classical stuff after Beethoven and doing lots of proto romantic stuff. Mendelssohn and Rossini also sound really classical era at times.
Daily reminder that Renaissance is Queen and Baroque is king, Do not fall under the neurotic incel spells of Brahms, Chopin, Schubert, Bruckner, and Mahler. They will fill you with anxiety, depressive episodes, and cause spiritual imbalance.Platomaxx with Palestrina, Josquin, Bach, Debussy and the court musicians of Louis XIV.
>>130478561Why would I Platomaxx when he was wrong about pretty much everything?
>>130477485correct>>130477507also correct
>>130478566>Why would I Platomaxx when he was wrong about pretty much everything?
>In his analysis of the Études, André Boucourechliev emphasizes this point: "Chopin is contradicted at every moment. Looking back through history, one stops at Beethoven, and even more at Gesualdo, that prince of continuous discontinuity[37]...". According to him, Debussy's antecedents "are not Franck or Mussorgsky, but the anonymous composers of the Middle Ages, Monteverdi, and Gesualdo".[232]>Harry Halbreich adopts the same perspective, seeing in Debussy "a liberator, as only Claudio Monteverdi had been before him".[233] Marguerite Long confirms this link forged by Debussy between the Baroque aesthetic and the postmodern perspectives of the 20th century, based on her personal recollections:>Like Monteverdi, the musician employs the special alchemy invoked for the Études. It is now up to him to direct the beacons of intelligence and sensuality toward the mysteries of an art he adores.[234]Late Debussy>all others
>>130478601Where do I start with Debussy?
>>130478610Early piano works from 1880-1892, the Faun, and Nocturnes, and work your way forward from their to the Pour le Piano, Images, Preludes. Once you done that, you'll be ready for the late works like Jeux, Etudes, Iberia, late chamber sonatas and some of the more harder works in the 2nd book of Preludes
>>130475316My favorite cello concertos:1. Shostakovich 12. Walton3. Saint-Saëns 14. Shostakovich 25. Saint-Saëns 26. DvorakListened, but didn't like as much: Schumann, Elgar, Haydn. Didn't like at all: LutosławskiAny other good cello concertos?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7tKfmF1oF8&list=OLAK5uy_nGJZxZgp6XC4OBbL58JkZxBUk3W6N27IM&index=2
>>130477471Lipatti waltzes>>130477755Boring.
Alfred Brendel on Cortot playing the cadence of the Bach 5th Brandenburg Concerto: "About the best piano playing I have ever heard!"Idil Biret: "Looking at the whole cadence in Brandenburg, it is necessary to look at the deep breathing that makes it become a single and endless sentence; His perfection in revealing the single and main structure is truly unprecedented. Brendel said that Cortot's play here was the most beautiful piano playing he had ever heard, and I completely agree with him. When I listen to this play, one realizes that music is based on breathing, that it is life itself, that it is the cause of life."Jed Distler: "His dashing joyride through the Brandenburg Fifth Concerto's elaborate cadenza is one of the most exciting piano recordings ever made-replete with added octaves in the 32nd-note runs."Alfred Brendel: "Edwin Fischer admired Alfred Cortot. Where the leading of voices, the grading of dynamics, the control of character and atmosphere, timbre and rhytm are handled with the mastery of Cortot at his best, it appears to me that a few missed notes are not only irrelevant but almost add to excitement of the impact."
>>130478795Paul Badura-Skoda: "Cortot had the most beautiful piano sound I ever heard. It had a penetrating quality and it could be accomplished even on a poor instrument. . ."András Schiff: "People speak so much today of technique: 'Such and such pianist has great technique.' Mostly, this is misunderstood-the pianist celebrated now by music critics as a 'fantastic technician' is mostly the one who plays the fastest and the loudest, and doesn't produce any wrong notes. But, on the contrary, great technique signifies, to me, an infinitely alive 'sound-imagination' and '-inventivenes'—and then, to realize this. In this way, the realization of the richness of color is achieved. If a pianist hears only two colors, the realization of those is no great art. To me, in this sense, Alfred Cortot, who played many wrong notes, had the greatest technique. Because he produced an unbelievable richness of color on the piano, millions of colors-like a great painter. That's very important to me."Alfred Brendel: "Hearing Cortot play, you sense the conductor in the multitude of colours that he can produce on the piano - even if Chopin, as I said, was an out-and-out piano composer. There are other piano-playing conductors who play the piano without much colour, merely fluently and evenly. Cortot was an exception. Although he was mainly a pianist, he did conduct a great deal. He was highly praised by Debussy as a conductor of Wagner."Magda Tagliaferro: It was always said about Cortot's tone that it had such an extraordinary quality that one could recognize it from among a hundred pianists... Cortot often asked for 'flutes here... cellos there... horns here.' He opened up horizons by this emphasis on sound, for it gave us, all at once, a taste for contrasting touches, textures, and the polyphonic style... He had a natural sonority that was celestial! Always his sound was pure enchantment, whether the music was soft or loud.
>>130478808Yvonne Lefebure: "He was never whatone would calla a 'professor'. He was a master, an inspiratior. When you listened to Cortot play, you realized that what he was doing at the piano was not like what other people were doing... This concept of freedom within strictness was one of the secrets of his playing. It was exactly related to a central character of his style: to create a beautiful expression within formal simplicity. Or, one might say, to be inwardly romantic while outwardly classical."Alfred Brendel: "The last great Chopin player in the old sense was Cortot. His recording of the 24 Preludes from 1933 has to me remained a miracle. Throughout my life, it has never lost anything of its phenomenal freshness and daring. Meanwhile, Chopin, the bird of paradise, has been swallowed up by the musical mainstream."Angela Hewitt: "Twenty years ago, somebody gave me Alfred Cortot's 1930s recording of Chopin's preludes and impromptus. I had never heard anything like it. There is such an eloquence in the phrasing, an unaffected freedom in the rhythm- and he did it with such economy of movement. It's impossible to imitate; one can just marvel at it. His beautiful sound was probably helped by the pianos of the time, which were less harsh and more distinctive; but he had, in addition, an elegance and charm that is increasingly rare in modern life... My piano teacher's piano teacher worked with Cortot, and he introduced me to Cortot's editions Chopin, Liszt, Schumann. These days, the tendency is to return to the basic notes of the ur-text: it's somewhat frowned upon to use editions containing personal interpretative ideas - a shame, because we lose out on many important performance traditions. Cortot's writings were full not just of technical ideas and exercises, but of inspired suggestions as to what exactly was going on in the music, literary connotations and other insights. Cortot helped me realise how free you can be."
>>130478820>and he did it with such economy of movementHow could she tell the way he moved from an audio-only recording?
>>130478820Philippe Entremont (in 1980s): "The greatest one of all, Alfred Cortot... I am more fascinated by some of the old recordings of Cortot than by most of what I hear on recordings made today. Today's recordings tend to be extremely well- executed-I use the word 'executed' on purpose, because sometimes it is a deadly execution-with a kind of cool perfection, and a good sound. But there is an antiseptic quality about them. Even in the realm of tempi: people are not playing as fast as they used to play years ago. They have to be reasonable, middle-of-the-road, instantly intelligible, never disturbing. I find this somewhat distressing. Pianists are not willing to take the risks they once did. Pianists once went to extremes, so we now have the complete reverse. But some of the playing today is extremely boring. I can go to a concert and hear beautiful playing, very well balanced with beautiful sound, and there's no doubt that I am captivated by the perfection of what I hear. But when I wake up the following morning, most of what I heard the night before has not Stayed with me. But that would not happen with a pianist like Cortot-even his mistakes were fabulous' Nobody has ever played the Chopin etudes the way Cortot played them. They are so immense, so gigantic. Once when I was in Yugoslavia playing a concert. I heard them on the radio in my hotel room. I was beside myself, absolutely spellbound by the courage of his playing, the nonconformity, the fabulous drive-the poetry ot the music was airborne. Where is playing like that today? I could listen to those etudes every day of my life."
>>130477738 Early beethoven is firmly classical, late beethoven is firmly romantic. The evolution of his music can essentially be understood as him walking along the spectrum between those two extremes. An early sonata of his is still using a fairly standard classical idiom: four(ish)-bar phrases, simple textures, tremolo/alberti bass accompaniment, standard scales for virtuosic flare etc.https://youtu.be/te6GILsxcoQ?si=j0jlI0vpGmlQIIgCthen you get to his middle period. Many of these classical devices are still present but their function is highly modified. Ornaments start becoming an integral part of the phrase, and phrases themselves gain more complicated textures, sometimes the typical rh melody/lh accompaniment will be flipped, and of course he's more harmonically adventuroushttps://youtu.be/QImFm4Y_QPM?si=SWUtf3hx0badMZqW Then you get to his late period, and by now the idiom has changed signficantly. there's a greater emphasis on polyphonic texture, accompaniments (in the traditional sense) are used sparingly, but usually as part of the main musical material. He's also leveraging scale for expressive effect: all of his late sonatas are fairly long and cover a wider emotional trackhttps://youtu.be/erD1Yy-4F5M?si=gobEH3WWjVz6awN1keep in mind this is all a "broad strokes" description, there are obviously exceptions to everything and I'm sure other musicians did it before. But the radical change in his later style, coupled with the influence it exerted on musicians who came immediately after him, make late Beethoven a clear romantic in my view. there's also more radical changes he adopted but those are the first ones that spring to mind
>>130478832Stephen Hough: "My most important teacher Gordon Green encouraged me to experiment and to stretch my mind musically. Incidentally, I also remember that I used to go to his home for lessons... But whatever the lesson was, before we began he might say, 'Just listen to this,' and play a record of Paderewski that he'd been listening to, or Cortot, two of his great idols who became two of my idols also. And he'd smile enthusiastically and say, 'Just listen.' I remember Green on one occasion playing the Aeolian Harp Etude of Chopin in the Cortot recording, which I still think is one of the most remarkable performances. And Green would say, 'See how he releases the pedal on some of those double A-flat arpeggios to get that shimmering effect!' He'd continuously point out all of these treasures to me."Claudio Arrau: "Cortot was absolutely marvelous, I adored him... The person I liked most in Chopin was probably Cortot. In spite of his breaking of the hands. I remember a marvelous performance of the etudes in London. I heard him also do the preludes."Eric Heidsieck: "Cortot taught us to be in the habit of thinking of the piano as a 'little orchestra' or at times maybe a big one."Jorge Bolet: "The greatest performance of the Chopin preludes, ever, was Cortot's, both live, and on records."Piotr Anderszewski: "He really captured the spirit of Chopin, which i think is very very difficult. This combination of being romantic and expressive and yet aristocratic and restrained, i think he really caught this paradox."
>>130478853Alicia de Larrocha (Quoted by Harold Schoenberg): "She talks with pleasure about pianists she heard when she was a child prodigy. She was impressed by Alfred Cortot, 'who played everything as though it was a fantasy.' She remembers a Cortot concert in which he got all mixed up in the first movement of Chopin's B minor Sonata 'and then went on to play the slow movement so beautifully I could have cried,' she said. 'After the performance my teacher and I went backstage. Cortot had his hands in the air, and we thought he was in despair about the mess in the first movement. But no. 'I never played the slow movement so beautifully,' he kept saying.' Missed notes never bothered Cortot very much."Walter Gieseking (Quoted by Mark Westcott): "My friend Deal Elder, who studied with Geseking... Dean asked him why he had never performed the Chopin B minor Sonata. Although Gieseking was not known in this country for his Chopin performances, those few that we have on record are ravishing, and he played a great deal of it in Europe, especially during his younger years. But Gieseking's reply was that he had once heard Cortot play the work so well that he just never piced it up."Wilhelm Kempff (Quated by Idil Biret) "Kempff's favorite pianist was Cortot... Kempff was an admirer of Alfred Cortot, often making references to his understanding in his statements. He admired his extraordinary musical intelligence, his velvety soft touch, his personality."Daniel Barenboim: "I think Cortot looked for the opium in music. He looked for anything that was extraordinary; he always looked for something, not sickly,but something abnormal, totally removed from reality, and far from anything that could be construed as smelling of normality."
>>130478869Byron Janis: "For me one of the most magical pianists was Cortot, who had many shortcomings, and in the U.S. we tend to make shortcomings too important. Cortot tended to slide around a lot, had memory lapses and was not always in good shape, but my God, there was something there! There was an essence, and he captured it. His Chopin and Schumann are unbelievably beautiful. He is the best of French poetic style, but with a true depth."Vladimir Horowitz: A beautiful musician. Cortot was very intellectual. He liked me and I admired him very much. He played Schumann like nobody, absolutely divine. Oh, yes, it was... His Chopin and Schumann were for me the best. His Schuman was fantastic."Vlado Perlemuter: "Even now, after all these years, I have the most vivid memories of his teaching and playing! You simply couldn't forget a lesson with Cortot. He played and taught absolutely everyting and what an impact it had on us! I especially remember his lesson on Chopin's Fantasty and Sonata in B-flat Minor, and Schumann's Kreisleriana, which he taught and demonstrated in such a way that all the details have remained to this day a part of my thinking. Even now his advice is always in my mind when I play and teach... He always fought aganist the dry, high-fingered brilliance and the notey playing that one frequently heard at that time. He detested it. So in addition to his ideas about wrist and arm, he would help the sound by using a lot of fancy half-pedal and flutter pedal. . He didn't just have one kind of technique. He constantly adapted his technical approach to the music... It's a simple fact that the modern piano is often too harsh without the una corda pedal, but too timid with it. So Cortot would often prefer the sound that one gets by playing strongly with the una corda, if he wanted a sonorous soft sound. It's a sophisticated concept that is not well understood even today."
>>130478888Stephen Hough: "I've loved Alfred Cortot's playing from an early age and I never tire of hearing his recordings, particularly Chopin and Schumann from the 1920s and 30s. He is unique in his combination of utter interpretative freedom (sometimes with a touch of eccentricity) and penetrating insight into a composer's wishes. There are artists who delight listeners with their wild and daring individuality; there are others who uncover the written score with reverence; there are few who can do both. Cortot had a vision which went beyond the academic or the theatrical to some wider horizon of creativity from whence the composers themselves might well have drawn inspiration. In the shifting, kaleidoscopic moods of Schumann's cycles, or the lyrical outpouring of Chopin's preludes, etudes and ballades, Cortot seems to breathe with the composer. It is not a mere dusting off or polishing up of a pre-written work, but an interpreter giving the kiss of life to a dead form - vivifying and intimate."
>>130478899Badura-Skoda: "And the time when Cortot came to Vienna in 1947 remains one of my greatest pianistic memories. He came there to play for the first time after the War. Cortot played two programs. The first part of the first recital, how shall I say this... it was an absolute disaster. Cortot played Chopin's Fantasy, which is not very difficult from a technical point of view, but he didn't manage to play even one octave correctly. Jörg Demus was seated next to me, and he was seething: "My goodness, how is this possible? He's an amateur, I'm leaving at intermission!" After the intermission, however, Cortot came back on stage like a changed man. It was a different man, a different pianist. He had gotten ahold of himself. I couldn't believe how well he played the Sonata Op. 35 No. 2, which is such a perilous piece by comparison. At the end of the concert, with Gulda, we found Demus and tried to convince him that he had missed a major event: 'That's impossible! I don't believe you - and I already sold my ticket for the second recital!' In the end, we weren't able to convince him. A week later, in front of a sold-out house, with all three of us in attendance, Cortot played the 24 Preludes and the Kreisleriana. I can tell you that he went far beyond, in terms of depth, poetry, and spontaneity, all the recordings he had ever made of these pieces, which we knew so well. It was a revelation! It was so moving! All the pianists who were there agreed. When Cortot and Fischer were on the right foot, it was perfect, in terms of the cleanness of their playing, and not just from an emotional or spiritual point of view..."
>>130478914Dinu Lipatti: "One of the greatest pianists of today, an ardent defender of Romanticism and perhaps the only musician in whom it is never the virtuoso who dominates the performer, Alfred Cortot offered us yet again, this year, the chance to understand and love even more the music passing under his sublime fingers... Accompanied by the Paris Philharmonic Orchestra under the distinguished and well- known conductor Charles Münch, Cortot played Frank's Symphonic Variations, Fauré's Ballade and Ravel's Piano concerto for the left hand.. What distinction in the Ballade, and what an admirable rendition -not to mention the Variations, where the great musician always works wonders, refreshing both the form and the musical essence of this somewhat outdated work!...Ravel wrote his Concerto for the left hand at the same time with his brilliant G major concerto... Even if Cortot authored an arrangement for two hands of this concerto, he played nevertheless the original version. 'Don't let your left hand know what your right hand does' is a saying which does not apply here: Cortot's left hand surpassed his right one. And this is not so easy at all!"Cortot was Heinrich Neuhaus's favorite, Quoted by V. Horowitz: "I was a provincial boy and was fascinated to hear him describe how Busoni played, how Godowsky played, how Rosenthal played, how Ignaz Friedman played, how this player and that player sounded. He liked Alfred Cortot best of all."
>>130478899we get it, you like cortot
>>130478919Murray Perahia: "Freedom yet logical... No one today plays like Cortot, whose artistry reflected his fervent love of music. Pablo Casals, at Marlboro, often spoke to me about the trio he formed with Thibaud and Cortot ('He played so magnificently, you know,' he would always say with a smile on his lips)."Pablo Casals (I know he was not a pianist...): Cortot and Thibaud were superlative artists. Cortot was unquestionably one of the great pianists of our time - he had boundless élan and astonishing power. He was also a brilliant musical scholar, whose writings on piano technique and musical appreciation gained international recognition. He interpreted Beethoven magnificently, and he had a consuming admiration for Wagner. For a time, when still in his twenties, he had been an assistant conductor at Bayreuth, and at the age of twenty-four he conducted the first Paris performance of Cotter dammerung. Perhaps his most treasured possession was a portrait of Wagner by Renoir. He was an indefatigable, highly disciplined worker, both as a musician and as a scholar, and he was very ambitious for his career. I think it was perhaps this ambition which led to the sorrowful events that later overtook him.
>>130478667>Any other good cello concertos?Ligeti, Schnittke, Dutilleux.
>>130478931Martha Argerich: "I love Gieseking and Cortot. Of the older people, Cortot is quite important for me... I am very interested in what Cortot says about 'The dispute of conscience which fills Faust's tormented soul in his search for truth,' in reference to the passages of Goethe's Faust that inspired Liszt's Sonata. Some people hate what Cortot wrote in his edition, but I think it opens up a lot of horizons like his playing did too. I don't believe that it works for everything. But for me, yes, for some things it does and well. What Cortot wrote seems very important."Yuja Wang: "Curtis has the best library, and there I came to admire Cortot."Note: Yuja Wang used Cortot's edition for the Liszt Sonata recording.György Sandor: "Cortot was a real poet. Everything he did was absolutely. I wouldn't say unexpected but suprising and profound and colorful and improvised. His technique was superb too, but in those days of course people didn't care so much about notice to the engineers do, so it happens that the recordings which we have of course to have a lot of wrong notes and i would suggest one should not listen to the wrong notes because he could play the right notes to if he needed to but he just didn't bother too much. But tehere were details in any of his performance which were very very unique."THE END.
now playingR. Strauss: Capriccio, Op. 85: Introduction (Sextet)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I0MqJ0EI80&list=OLAK5uy_lBv0HUX0garY7eBCDgGVfNM5pJw1RsBmk&index=2start of Bruckner: String Quintet in F Major, WAB 112https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeSiWg8Vp08&list=OLAK5uy_lBv0HUX0garY7eBCDgGVfNM5pJw1RsBmk&index=3Bruckner: Intermezzo in D Minor for String Quintet, WAB 113https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbnU4ktl-98&list=OLAK5uy_lBv0HUX0garY7eBCDgGVfNM5pJw1RsBmk&index=6https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lBv0HUX0garY7eBCDgGVfNM5pJw1RsBmk
>>130478667Check out Myaskovsky, Atterberg, Britten, Prokofiev (Cello Concertino and Symphony-Concerto which is really a cello concerto)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Km560PExJk&list=OLAK5uy_nDr2sIFEPgfbfZyS7-BpdIxatWVoNLGzU&index=1there's also this post from the other day,>>130384270
>>130478667>>130478667https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbpkQpgaEKE&list=OLAK5uy_mIb8-rGDOFZOM05DdfF6DgqgU-0tNSShg&index=6
My fisting waltz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC1mWcl3B4Q&list=PL6B0V2FKgTzLeQ-whENTp9F1mVGFHtoGhthe cello GOAT making the absolute best and most beautiful recording of Bach's cello suites.
>>130479789I should listen to that actually. I've never heard his Bach suites but all of my favorite cello recordings end up being Isserlis.
>>130479974the prelude of the second suite is fucking amazing on this one, I'm in awe.
On the final leg of the Boccherini cross-country adventure (1793-1804)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOvbi55buRshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlKUr9w8BL8
>>130478667>>130479560My favorites are C.P.E. Bach's A major cello concerto and Haydn's C majorhttps://youtu.be/ITT1bsQG5q0
>>130479789Shafran >>>
>>130480089Going through my library and Holy shit I forgot about Saint Seans no. 1 in A minor. THAT is my favorite cello concerto. The Haydn and CPE are close though
>>130478667>Any other good cello concertos?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr5XG-VOVYQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIG5nE-pZZ0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qvU7cVkk1o
>>130478585Read the haughty language in which Plato and the Platonists speak of all men who are not devoted to their own shining abstractions: other men are rats and mice.
>>130480890Don't feed the trolls also means don't engage with the platonists, anon
A Legend
>>130480998I get it
The curiously named Soghomon Soghomonian sometimes known as Komitas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVdF2MPvLvY&list=PLc_QJvzBNyqqXlogb-PMShxL2T0DbUoGM&index=3
>>130481042You lig et it ?
>>130481405Shut up
>>130479789Nice, just as I have been listening to Bach's The Art of the Fugue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A8iR7cGHHQ&list=OLAK5uy_leyJjRKbD3XuNO7OYrxRIRST-d6m6mBDU&index=1
>>130479789Horrendous. Listen to Casals.>>130481834Atrociois. Listen to Roth quartet.
>>130481954Kill yourself
>>130481989Thank you modernist slopper
>>130481954You speak arrogantly and can't even spell, why should we listen to you?
>>130481999>misspelling is same as not being able to spellModernist IQ in full display.
>>130481954> Listen to Casals.Scratchy recordings from the forties? I mean alright I respect him for basically rediscovering the thing, but modern recordings are just way more clear.
>>130482014They are also much worse and practically unlistenable due to bottom of the barrel performance so Casals is the right choice.
>>130482009Proof that you simply failed to spell and aren't generally incapable of doing so?
>>130481994>pretending he's not been told to kill himself because he sounds like an unbearable cunt>>130482009kill yourself
maybe we should ALL kill ourselves!
>>130482036"u" and "i" are right next to each other on global standard keyboards. >>130482042Thank you modernist slopper
>>130482052>>130482054you first
>>130482035I like Kobekina's version.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIxGlyi9CgY&list=OLAK5uy_l44cbAgveIkTF20O1eMOYNJls8cFgJVScIs there any cleaned/remastered/whatever Casals recordings?
>>130482054Sorry, but your constant repetition of the same phrase leads me to believe you are of very low intellect and are thus incapable of spelling in general; "u" and "i" being next to one another is therefore simply a coincidence that gives you plausible deniability.
>>130482161That, and/or he's a fat-fingered mong with no coordination, which amounts to the same
>>130482035>unlistenablehow far does your head have to be up your rear to consider the linked performance "unlistenable"it's fine disliking a musician, but at that point it sounds like you're more interested in the performance than the music itself
>>130482105>cleaned/remastered/whatever Casals recordings?Not to my knowledge. Although I haven't truly searched, as the existing version is good enough.>>130482161>no uDenying the obvious reality is a proof of my previous statement that you are indeed an imbecile.>>130482233It becomes listenable once you know what to listen to.
>>130482261>listenableI meant unlistenable.
>>130482261mongoloid post
>>130482261>It becomes [un]listenable once you know what to listen to.classical is 99% of what I listen to, and I've gone over recordings from all periods. I'm also an amateur pianist myself so I pay attention to things like phrasing, articulation, voicings etc.I agree modern performance has stagnated, the big names nowadays aren't nearly as creative as what we had in the first half of the last century, but even then these performances aren't "unlistenable" unless, again, you're a recording junkie who cares more about the minutiae than the music itselffor a performance to be truly unlistenable there have to be some bizarre distortions in tempo, phrasing, orchestration etc. that fuck with the flow of the piece entirely, here are some examples:https://youtu.be/05g3lAYguf8?si=Zj7Mcp14RZwDZ4kmhttps://youtu.be/VaAeEB0s4W8?si=aX6NYvG-vLI02OS7(horowitz has the antidepressant excuse tbf, man was suffering so I don't hold it against him)https://youtu.be/H-q2dlg7QPU?si=LWPnLEah80lgot1-otherwise most recordings nowadays can be describe as "fine" or "okay", they usually just play it safe and include maybe one or two bold moves to set them slightly apart from the rest. if you consider that "unlistenable" then again, you might just be way over your head
>>130482377where's Winters
>>130482377It's not "unlistenable" in a literal sense, obviously. I listen to them all and that's how I compare them in the first place. Sometimes I might even enjoy them despite there being alternative, superior ones.
>>130482456oh so you're not even sure what *you're* going on about then, gotcha
>>130482479Perhaps you're just not asking the right questions?
>>130482456Then I have to ask, what's the point of using adjectives like "unlistenable" and calling other people's choices "horrendous" if you really just mean that there are superior (even vastly) options?When you do this, all you accomplish is (as others have pointed out) coming across as pretentious and insufferable, as well as indirectly tarnishing the image of the musicians you're trying to promoteall you have to do is say "I think this performance by Casals is better because of xyz", "Cortot has better tempo", and people will be 1000x more receptive to what you're sayingI'm not >>130482479 btw
>>130482491No questions, only imperatives: Commit suicide.
>>130482541more like spaghetti. lmao.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmuK8Wtux6Q
>>130482744meant for: >>130480998
Gorecki immediately falls over because he has no legs - Berio stabs him.Xenakis is busy fooling with the UPIC and looking at books on architecture and is splashed with acid by Penderecki. Xenakis screams as his "good side" is now just as bad and then dies in agony.Berio and Ligeti get into a close quarters knife fight. Berio is wounded, but determined to kill ligeti so keeps comingMeanwhile Penderecki is rigging up an elaborate acid trap, with color coded strings and trip wires.Ligeti gets lucky and disembowels Berio - his guts spill everywhere and then Ligeti kicks the knife out of his hand and proceeds to choke him with his own intestines.After finishing off Berio, Ligeti stands up to take in the situation.Behind a massive contraption stands Penderecki, silently watching."Your opera was shitty" says Penderecki calmyLigeti gets out a hair dryer, determined to dry his lips to a level that will cause critical hygroscopy and thereby suck the moisture out of the air, and perhaps even out of Penderecki's body should it come in contact with the negatively-moisture charged lips.Ligeti, satisfied his weaponized lips are ready begins to approach the contraption, and in the center of it, Penderecki.Ligeti deftly avoids the first few trip wires but suddenly the color-coding and need to repeat small aleatoric movements overwhelms him and he triggers the contraption. Acid splashes from multiple directions and Ligeti screams, gurgling as his windpipe dissolves. Penderecki silently watches, the image of Ligeti's contorting figure reflecting on his glasses.Finally Ligeti is nothing but a steaming pile of goop and bones suspended in the color coded contraption.Penderecki walks away, humming a dissonant section of his requiem and spinning his cane.
Scriabi's Diner, subsequently Chuck's.
Strausshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn5wzVBA2zs&list=OLAK5uy_k2Rob5-KhI_CT-njtTRLIBNshFuWUOX1E&index=1
>>130482864Scriabin Diner - I was the ChordThe first morning, the first time you realize that you've laid it to rest... that God died in you.
Mephisto 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kD_rfg3N-E&list=RD3kD_rfg3N-E&start_radio=1Georgy Catoire - Prélude Op. 10, No. 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkKZ_hOZpco&list=RD3kD_rfg3N-E&index=7
>>130483167If a Double Decca bus crashed into ushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4KQtHhaKXs&list=RDL4KQtHhaKXs&start_radio=1
Tbh the only thing I'm super autistic about is opera singing and Bruckner conductingI can enjoy modern recordings from just about every other field, even if I'm quite picky. But opera singing and Bruckner conducting haven't been great in at least 50 years.
>>130483403Respectable. Favorite Bruckner recordings for each symphony?
>Bach cello suites
Anyone wanna hear a Balalaika Concerto? Randomly got recommended a recording of this piece on Amazon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glmgnB4w4IU
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYhDFOpaixk
>>130483418>3Blomstedt/BPO (OG)E. Jochum 1977>4Hengelbrock 2015 (OG)Kabasta 1943AndreaeKlemperer 1954Böhm 1974>5Furtwängler 1942Horenstein 1971Zender 2005E. Jochum/BPO 1982 (Concertgebouw one is good too) >6Kubelik 1977Wand 1976Celibidache 1991>7Walter 1954Ormandy 1969Beinum (either one) Böhm (1976, NOT the one on DG) >8Beinum 1955Böhm/BPO 1969>9Kubelik 1985 (minor flub in the Adagio)Furtwängler 1944KabastaWalter (Philly)I guess I do have a few modern favorites, though mostly for edition reasons.
>>130483403my rebuttal,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxojQaoPSJY&list=OLAK5uy_nY-lbHnU4Bq_5VkF1L0PHAGxFr_NMyMo4&index=1
>>130483815Much appreciated! Looks like my backlog just got a lot bigger.
>>130483537They are indeed very comfy
>>130483815>I guess I do have a few modern favoritesThose are all modern. Show me the baroque recordings.
>>130483614Does this count?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4uC-CiM8U4
>>130483912Best I can do is classical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIvWjI4PrJw
>>130483418TintnerJochumTintnerTintnerTintnerInbalJochumJochumWandTintnerJanowski
>>130483938>recorded 1989that's modern
>>130483978https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rz9JcOaZw4 meant to post this
>>130483993That's not a recording, I don't care how many quotation marks they use
>>130484033It is a recording though
>>130484041It's a record, not a recording
>>130484098
>>130484124Disingenuous post
>>130484041>>130484098>>130484124>>130484158boy howdy isn't it cool how the earliest recording of all time is 4000 years old? can't wait for the stereo remaster though
>>130484158play "um akshually" games get "um akshually" answers
>>130484221>call me out on misusing words, and I'll misuse words some moreAlas, fiend! thou hast veritably play'd me as a finely tuned fiddle with a freshly waxed bow! Sly as a fox, clever as a devil!
Yikes
>>130484261thank you very much for your invaluable input
>>130483731:p
>>130483945good Bruckner picks for sleeping
>>130484343yeah they're very comfy
>>130475316>Tchaikovsky: Ballet Suites - Berliner Philharmoniker, Mstislav Rostropovichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqjlocepj0o&list=PL2CncTXpAjVMhqI0fO8pIHZlum0WVfEsp
>>130483938Haydn's greatest shitpost ever, not even Mozart approached this level of cheekiness
>>130484847It's just a transcription of the finale of one of his symphonies. I forget which one
>>130484897The point still stands, Haydn is super based>jolly>long and prosperous life>had sex on the daily and dl
>Interviewer: Yet the other day I noticed an eminent conductor, whose Bruckner is highly praised, reaching a fortissimo long before what is to me self-evidently the work's pivotal climax.>Karajan: But, you see, this is a most interesting fact that you have noticed. So many conductors - and I must say Furtwängler was sometimes one of these - create enormous crescendos; and after them the music collapses. It is like a man who storms up to the top of a great mountain and then just drops down. And this was Bruno Walter's great point. When you are up then you must know you are up! You enjoy the view, and you are stimulated by it. Also the end must feel as though it is an end.
>>13048489799
>>130485351Thank you. I should give it another listen
>>130485058I think it's more accurate to say that Furtwangler made mountains out of hills rather than going up a great mountain and then jumping off. Because despite his tendency to make even more (comparatively) mundane parts exciting, he still always gave great attention to the most important climaxes and crowned them as such in all of his recordings. The only exceptions I can think is that EMI 8th which is so dynamically compressed that all the climaxes sound the same, so it's more of an engineering issue.
>>130485386It's one of the best Haydn symphonies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qSe0jvY0XU
>>130483418>00Ashkenazy>1van Zweden>0Tintner>2Simone Young>3Thielemann>4Barenboim with CSO>5Wand with Berlin>6Jochum with Staatskapelle>7Poschner>8Jaarvi with Tonnhalle Orchester>9Blomstedt
>>130483945>>130485452Nice choices.
damn Gundula Janowitz sounds like THAT???https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiDv0I4cJuY&list=OLAK5uy_keGulgOt1VytZt8dUD4Dukq18r1f63Vrk&index=4
>>130485601If you like nap time.
wow, Scriabin fucking sucks.
speaking of G Janowitz, the Act 1 of Karajan's Die Walkure so utterly surpasses every other recording in the repertoire it's actually embarrassing, you hear it and you think, "damn why did anyone else even try?"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC5FLVX-MTo&list=OLAK5uy_mDpPnV8-MKSVWxc-i_pxVxh-mvd6gB4gg&index=2
it's pronounced Brooknuh'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bj59tGuP_w
>>130483418Jochum for the 1st, Karajan for the 2nd, Celibidache for the rest.
>>130485663well, yes. He is russian, after all! haha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIsNUEIi-Rw&list=RDeIsNUEIi-Rw&start_radio=1Brahms, the hiss is annoying at first but man does this guy know how to play the piano
>>130486454Every time I listen to Brahms scherzos I just end up rolling my eyes and switching to Chopin's.
>>130486004It's great for sure, but the Walter one with Melchior and Lehmann is more to my tastes if we're talking about GOATs.
damn Christa Ludwig sounds like THAT???https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BJOi5t4nG8&list=OLAK5uy_nyYMAS2fCM06SA_ResnveJarOi76-BFso&index=23
>>130486512I'll have to revisit it. I tried it once back when I wasn't into opera yet and it did not go well.
wow, Scriabin fucking rocks.
>>130483815Where's that Boehm 1976 available?
The Symphony of Psalms is mind-blowing. Recommend me something, either that is like it or that might provoke a similar reaction in me.
>>130487149I've never listened to it because I dislike Stravinsky.
>>130487149What do you like about it so much? I've always enjoyed it myself but never understood its mythical status in the repertoire.
Chopinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H57749FrKRo&list=OLAK5uy_mAOghXeeZ7UhtG41idH3upIGno6ThWRW4&index=21
>>130487608It's a transcendent, otherworldly piece of music. I have no other way of explaining it.
we NEED a new high budget cycle of Roussel's symphonies, preferably on DGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGNStVYcc8Y
>>130487909patrician taste>>130487049>>130487457>>130487608Don't listen to these plebs, some Neoclassical Stravinsky is the closed we'll get to a modern Bach
>>130488717>tries to appeal to "le Bach" through modernist harmonyslopperyWe already have a "Bach". We don't need more "Bachs". Not that this ape-composer has anything to do with actual Bach.
>>130487909>>130488717I agree with these anons. >>130487457>>130487608>>130488985tasteless fags. if you don't understand modern classical, please refrain from posting. keep listening to your 3-4 baroque composers and leave us.
Liszthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjrjxXpVW7w&list=OLAK5uy_l6PYpSCZNxoCgwHFcA7LpuPnrCep2MKmk&index=2>Behzod Abduraimov’s Inferno explores the multifaceted concept of fire, bringing together cornerstones of the piano repertoire by Liszt, Debussy, and Stravinsky alongside a lesser-known offering by Carl Czerny.a satanic recital o_o
I don't care for R Schumann. I like Clara though.
>>130489202As long as you prefer Felix Mendelssohn to Fanny, we're all good
>>130489210Well obviously
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxEFlaon5AU&list=OLAK5uy_nisKu3-GYw6Jkqji6GxKe6fFtxAPD2Ia0&index=12
I asked my kitty who's her favorite pianist and she shyly replied,>arrauw~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O6aBBFJ9xY
>>130489250Lovely.
I asked my kitty who her favorite pianist is and she said "The grandest kitty of all, Alfred Cortot! I am more mesmerized by his old scratchy recordings than most modern music. Today's music is so 'purrrfectly executed'—but sometimes that feels like a cold, dead execution! It's all too clean and nyantiseptic. Even the tempo is too safe and middle-of-the-road, never making a tiny paw-print of a disturbance. It's so distressing! Pianists don't want to take risks anymore; they've gone from extremes to being super boring. I hear beautiful, balanced music, but by the next meowning, it all vanishes like catnip in the wind! But Cortot? Even his mistakes were fabulous! No one plays Chopin's etudes like him—they are so gigantic and grand! Once, in my hotel, I heard him on the radio and was absolutely spellbound! His courage and poetry were floating in the air! Where is that magic today? I could listen to his etudes every single day of my life!"
>>130489327>AI slop>AI slop variation of one of MY /classical/ postsdo this again and we're no longer cool, RachAnon
>>130489332>RachAnonNot me. And I'm not cool with dogmatic anti-AI retards myself, even though that post is pure slop.
>>130489266
Gould sounds like he just rushes through the music to get it over with so he can go back to, why is he popular again?
>>130489477>nooooo why is it so fast my puny brain can't keep up
Neoclassical Stravinsky is one of the lowest points in music history, along with the Darmstadt and New York Schools. Absolute trash. Also samefag>>130488717>>130489063
The Civ IV OST gave me a permanent soft spot for a lot of royalty free naxos recordings that never get recommended when you look up the piece online.https://youtu.be/Xr5sU1nDB7shttps://youtu.be/wxb7Sm4U8iIThere's just something about them..
>>130489688Don't ever compare The Octet, symphonies, Apollon, and the Violin concerto to hacks like Luigi Nono or Stockhausen
>>130489883Shit garbage for trash people
Mackerras's Mozart sounds gaudy.
>>130489477Because he's doing it with love in some pieces. In others he's just being a cokehead.
>>130489907The only love that man ever felt was the love of trolling
>>130489477He's extremely slow on some pieces.
brown hands wrote >>130489688
>>130490262Nope, sorry. I'm not even an amerimutt, thank my lucky stars.
white hands wrote this
*replaces every voice with a string instrument in Schubert's songs*improved...
>>130490362What's even better is recordings of just the piano parts. I don't get the appeal of songs. Solo voices are annoying. Thank fuck for Lieder Ohne Worte and Romances Sans Paroles
>>130490391I just gave a listen to Haydn's Arianna a Naxos and there's recitative in it...I should just give up on the singer + keyboard genre lol. I love Schubert and Haydn so much...but I can't get into these for some reason.
>>130490362Only the lowest of philistines could hold such an opinion.
>>130490466I bet you like post-'20s Stravinsky
>>130490498I bet you like pre-'20s Stravinsky.
>>130490526Obviously. I have good taste, something neocucks know nothing about
>>130490538>good taste>doesn't like Schubert's Liederlmao
>>130490550Learn to read
>>130490564>>130490362>this would be good if it was completely differentSure doesn't sound like you like it.
The clickbait Indians have come for classical too
>>130490498>>130490526>liking any Str*vinsky at allPhilistine.
>>130490575I understandt he mixup but I only made the first post that started this mess!
>>130490575Try harder
>>130489477Actually I've started listening to some classical at 2x speed, it really improves a lot of it.
I'm so sick of that faggot Bach, just post literally any of the other probably hundreds of Baroque composers for once
>>130490690https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrKY769aH_0
>>130490690You first, whiny crybaby
>>130490690This.
>>130490690Please post your favorite pieces. I've always underexplored the French baroque
Last mephistohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOBzCoOxJcw&list=RDDOBzCoOxJcw&start_radio=1Toccatahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70t3o2eFfvY&list=RDDOBzCoOxJcw&index=4I thought for a second I still had 2x speed on
>>130490737don't "this" your own shit, diaper baby
>>130490790Don't all babies wear diapers? Isn't that a bit redundant?
>>130490790Take your meds
>>130490839Redundancy often helps drive the point home. In this case the point being that the poster is a whiny shit-diapered crying little baby looking to be spoonfed>>130490841Kill yourself
>>130490841This
>>130490744Couperin
>>130490851>Redundancy often helps drive the point home. In this case the point being that the poster is a whiny shit-diapered crying little baby looking to be spoonfedNo it doesn't and in this case it reads more like someone having a melty
>>130490910>n-nuh-uh!>y-you're crashing out bro!!!k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w00qHcaJJQE&list=RDw00qHcaJJQE&start_radio=1
>>130490938That's just how it came across
>>130490983
>>130489195How good is he? I had tickets to see Yuja, but she dropped out on (((medical grounds))) and he replaced her on short notice, so I bailed
>>130491011He's a big guy
>>130491036>I had tickets to see Yuja
>>130489195He looks like he's in a stomach
>>130491036Based Classical fan.
>>130491088yeah, it's the "classical" he's a fan of
>>130491070>he doesn't want to see live Yuja strut on stage wearing a skintight outfit and massive heels and do that ass-out-back-arched bow she doescertified homosexual>>130491088It was yet another Prokofiev 3, I didn't feel like travelling ~5 hours in a day just for that. Plus the conductor's some snot-nosed Finnish teenager
>>130491125>he doesn't want to enjoy mediocre performances by dime-a-dozen "hot" women, ha gayok coomer
Yo-Yo Ma, Lang Lang, Yuja the 3 horsemen of classical
>>130491119Can you imagine the absolute loser who made this image?
>>130491176can you imagine being a coom-brained simp
Wow Liszt really liked Mephisto didn't he?
>>130491336I guess? Why?
>>130491336Mephisto dick
>>130491367Mephisto flow
>>130475316This nigga Beethoven looks like Matt McCusker
>>130491399who
>>130491353Why did Liszt like Mephisto?
>>130491414He was a famous German, Romantic/classical composer
>>130491436BBL + DSL
Actually sounds like a ship rolling about on the seahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1aISfH5Yus&list=RDHBu4GGZyeTQ&index=8
>>130491714yeah it's called arpeggios the notes go up and down like waves isn't that neat isn't that clever
>>130491751Shut up
>>130491902wow hey I guess we got a Ravel hater over here huh
We gotta have Tchaikovsky, Britten and Szymanowski editions this month
>>130492184>WeI don't know you; do your own dirty work
>>130492238>do your own dirty workSorry, not into that, ask someone else.
>>130492477nonsensical reply
>kill yourself>nonsensical reply>kill yourself>nonsensical reply>kill yourself>nonsensical reply>kill yourself>nonsensical reply
>>130492966you alright, man?
The greatest and Robert.
>>130492966schizo post
>>130493121Can't even tell if this is AI anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTS7d_2tHwI&list=OLAK5uy_n2WloTKyoQS9x5KKUMDutD8ALYlgIPzks
>>130493218Wow, you're profoundly stupid then
Mozart is the only composer who made instruments sound like human singing/humming to you
>>130493245Glenn Gould can make any piece hum.
>>130493245What about Beethoven's Romance no.1 for violin and orchestra or Schubert d. 840
>>130480078And now:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deu7Oca7Wlkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYCHJ8TFyDEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoeViZk-SCMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cNahXRxATE
>>130493263moan autistically*
>>130478628>and some of the more harder works in the 2nd book of Preludes>the concept of debussy being hardI sometimes forget there are people who aren't used to this kind of music, I'm only 28 but I already don't have a clear of memory of how non-functional harmony/chromatic/atonal music sounded when it was a new thing to me
>>130493338hey can you do me a solid real quick and neck yourself thanks
Mozart really is quite boring though
>>130493456FPTMIU
>>130493469Further Proof That Mozart Is Uninteresting?
>>130493508careful not to burn all your neurons into such a clever jape, anon, there's precious few of them as it is
>>130493508kek
>>130493525kek
>>130493871>Mahlerfigures
>>130493871correct
>>130493871Chad Chopin enjoyer vs Chud Mahler fan
>>130493871They're right.
>>130494124a statement of preference by definition cannot be right or wrong
>>130494136You're wrong.
>>130494157no
>>130494136quality is not a matter of preference
>>130494180k
>>130494185See? debate settled, /classical/.
>>130494206sure
it's pronounced der rosenkavalier SWEEThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kebyb71G2MQ
>tfw I've been trying to listen to same piece for the past 10 hours but my medicine makes me so tired I keep falling asleepthis time will be the charm
>>130495605Me with Brahms 1 and 2
>>130495623kek savage
>>130491036idk I found the recording on a review on The Classic Review. Check it out. You should have still went.
daaaamn jessye norman sounds like THAT???https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlxPttNo9-E&list=OLAK5uy_nY6k7Rfg5nkvzQsa009w42cewnyDU55I0&index=3also why do all the tracks on this recording begin with 5-10 seconds of silence, so annoying
>>130493928>>130494124Dilettante moment
>>130490362holy fucking pleb
>>130493871I wouldn't go that far but that's extremely based.
Zwangvolle Plage! Muh ohne Zweck!
Best/favorite recording of Mussorgsky's Pictures of an Exhibition on piano? There's a lot by many great pianists.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0-t5Z62OtQ&list=OLAK5uy_koPTTfNcZF9l7nFq5MNlMu0BGNLqeLmnk&index=4this one is by Brendel
this guy is looking through your bathroom window. what do?
>>130497371>enjoy the show~
>>130497371Tell him to play someone better like Chopin instead of Beethoven.
>>130497380Wow she's well tempered...
>>130478947> Ligeti Very strange.> Schnittke Liked it way more than the previous one. Especially the ending.> Dutilleux.Alright I guess.
Anyone else like to listen to all of Sibelius' symphonies like one long symphony? I start playing from the first on through to the seventh.https://litter.catbox.moe/ch12s2.flac
>>130498251For me it's 1-2-4-5-7
>>130498357right so you feel mehttps://litter.catbox.moe/c71e9n.flac
Tchaikovsky (arr. for piano)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5Gpw2yEP6g&list=OLAK5uy_lyiTOCJyAmulrxahuegGsfz8qeEbo-juM&index=12
>>130478667>Any other good cello concertosHonegger
>>130498887Hey
>>130498251of course not. nos. 1 & 2 are completely different in style from nos. 6 & 7. makes zero sense to hear them as "one".
>>130495623Concerto or symphony
Newfag anon here. I've been listening to a lot of classical in the past week, I haven't gone back to my jazzy shit so I'll take that as a good sign, meaning that I like most of the stuff I listen to. So far I'm obsessed with Liszt, his transcription of Beethoven's 6th is my favorite piece of all time. Mozart is another composer that I enjoy, I did listen to Le nozze di Figaro but not all at once, it was fractured because I can't sit my ass down for hours on end trying to actively listen to music it would tire me out. Mahler and Sibelius come afterwards. Mahler's 1st and 6th are my favorites. Sibelius' 2nd, 5th, 7th and his Finlandia are amazing. I switched from symphonies to some solo piano, came across Liszt and I can't stop.
>>130499339Happy to hear, anon :) Liszt has a lot of solo piano masterpieces. There's the cycles, like Annees de pelerinage, Harmonies poétiques et religieuses (both masterpieces), Transcendental Etudes (many say it's a masterpiece), and Hungarian Rhapsodies. Then many mini groupings like the Liebestraum and Consolations and Mephisto Waltz, long pieces like Reminiscence de Norma and Réminiscences de Don Juan, and singular pieces like , Ballade, Sonata in B minor, La lugubre gondola, and on and on. Much to enjoy! one of the four greatest solo piano composers ever.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X7iezB0P1k&list=OLAK5uy_lWjusHFp8ae15F3yie-LRrQ5aMHUTkyJg&index=2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uieqM9Zfqes&list=OLAK5uy_kbORBk1Ps2hzw_8P_PB-jD3iIXMV1Q1L0&index=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7O4uFhWfG8&list=OLAK5uy_lSwwE2vtPWod1I0mASqsb57hpLQW8ix0s&index=1oh and make sure you obtain/list to this 9 CD(!) Bolet set. Everyone ought to have it on their collection. One of the greatest interpreters of Liszt.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipWF1tjC7Xk&list=OLAK5uy_lkZjL0OJwMY-NWbt0zkv2qybQKx8dCd68&index=3
>>130499339Take the Scriabin pill, my friendhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RwqTKuRX8shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmIDevUoPpEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV_7nOxeFi4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ_Dj0_sR5Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDTgj_69JKAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW6S_Oz4uag
>>130499384Real Lisztheads have the 98 CD(!) Howard set.
