if mozart existed today, would people give a shit about his music?
He was capable of writing good music yes. Do you mean if he released his old stuff now or made newer sounding music
>>130478871Not OP but if the former I think a certain demographic would care, if the latter then people would definitely care if he was able to adapt to the times because the guy was a musical genius so I think he could do it
>>130478871It's impossible to imagine music today without Mozart. But assuming you could clone him and raise him in the 21st Century, of course he'd be a big star today. He was an excellent keyboardist and string player who could remeber just about anything after hearing it once, and wrote manuscripts of masterpieces more easily than most musicians copy out. The value of such skills never diminishes.Hell, he'd have a better career today than he did in the 18th Century, given most all those horrible diseases he had are easily treated today. Some of them, like smallox, don't even exist anymore.
>>130478871if he released his old stuff since it's too hard to predict what his newer sounding music would sound like
>>130479024but to be honest i don't mind chatting about either so the thread has more stuff to talk about
how would you get mozart's music noticed? a talent show?
>>130479333tiktok
>>130478684>he doesnt know
>>130478684He'd be on spotify with maybe 15 listeners per month
>>130478986Being a good musician doesn't equal being famous
His audience might be rich classy mfs who willing to pay thousands of dollars to watch his piano performances
>>130480287we might have a mozart out there rn but...>>130480254
>>130480407Think about it like this; if there was a direct relative of Mozart who made decent music, he'd have a better chance of making it big as opposed to someone who is completely unknown
>>130478684Alma Elizabeth Deutscher (born 19 February 2005) is a British composer, pianist, violinist and conductor. A child prodigy, Deutscher composed her first piano sonata at the age of five; at seven, she completed the short opera, The Sweeper of Dreams, and later wrote a violin concerto at age nine. At the age of ten, she wrote her first full-length opera, Cinderella, which had its European premiere in Vienna in 2016 under the patronage of conductor Zubin Mehta, and its U.S. premiere a year later. Deutscher's piano concerto was premiered when she was 12. She has lived in Vienna, Austria, since 2018. She made her debut at Carnegie Hall in 2019 in a concert dedicated to her own compositions. She began playing piano at the age of two, followed by violin at three. Her strong affinity to music was apparent from an early age. She could sing in perfect pitch before she could speak, and she could read music before she could read words.[3] In a 2017 interview with the Financial Times, Deutscher said: "I remember when I was three and I was listening to a lullaby by Richard Strauss, I loved it! I especially loved the harmony; I always call it the Strauss harmony now. And after it finished I asked my parents 'How could music be so beautiful?'"[4] She received a little violin as a present on her third birthday, and while her parents thought it would just be another toy, she was "so excited by it and tried playing on it for days on end", so her parents decided to find her a teacher.[5] Within a year she was playing Handel sonatas.[6]At four she was improvising on the piano, and by five, had begun writing down her own compositions. These first written notations were unclear, but by age six, she could write clear compositions and had composed her first piano sonata, a recording of which was released in 2013.[7] At seven, she composed her first short opera, The Sweeper of Dreams, at nine, a violin concerto, and her first full-length opera at age ten.[8]
>>130480675And how many people know about her outside classical music nerds?
If Mozart were alive today he wouldn't be writing classical music, he'd be writing trashy pop tunes. A lot of what he wrote was already comedic dance hall music, including jokes involving licking assholeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch
>>130480729>he'd be writing trashy pop tunesthis, "classical" was literally the pop music of that timejust like shakespeare was the christopher nolan of his time
>>130480729>pop tunesso...was he the one?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkhOXXhSIhU>Where did that come from?>From above
>>130480790>I'm hearing the bass, I'm hearing the percussion, I'm hearing the drumshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkjYcgpaS4w
>>130480847without the background musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_E7MImERaU
>>130478684Modern-day Mozart should probably resemble Paul McCartney. Prolific and popular, only he managed to live past his 30s.
>>130480948Similarly to Mozart, Paul's father was a musician, a bandleader who encouraged Paul's musical development. They were both transgressive, at times eccentric, and they both created highly memorable melodies.
>>130478684he would certainly be no rival to Billy P. Corgan
>>130478684no. people are no longer smart enough to get it.
>>130480675someone listen to her stuff and report back if it's any good or not, thanks in advance
>>130481301Cinderella part 1:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMoI-2Y9bMCinderella part 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ssaj7-I4_A
>>130481311Do people like it?
>>130480675Would
unless he said it to trap beats or it was arranged as a lofi beat to listen to while studying, no, big Moz would die in obsurity posting things to bandcamp
>>130478684Taylor Swift is the Mozart of our timesMozart made shitty, boring, souless music that wealthy people and the king of Austria himelf paid for. No money, no music.He was a nepo baby even. Some kid that was curated his entire life into becoming a composer
>>130479333The way he was originally noticed, by sponsored by a king and performing in front of various aristocrats. The modern day equivalent would be for a rich jewish music executive to pay for him to be at the front of everyone's algorithm and then have him show up on television shows and headlining festivals.
In the 90s, Cobain had a sort of Mozart status in popular music. Though that only lasted for like 2-3 years
>>130480312Mozart wasn't a good musician. There's thousands of those.He was a *great* musician. The greatest of his century. Maybe of any century. And great at so many different aspects of music, it's downright infuriating to contemplate: he was a great instrumentalist, a great melodist, a great arranger, and a great composer. He made great music in every relevant genre of his age. He made dozens of great operas, symphonies, masses, chamberworks, and concerti. He's been a box office draw for longer than most of the world's countries have existed. He did all this despite dying just before turning thirty-six.>>130480729If Mozart cared about box-office attraction above all else, he never would've made so many works like The Marriage of Figaro or his Haydn Quartets, which alienated his aristocratic patrons right as the country was in war austerity. He was almost in financial ruin until The Magic Flute became a smash just before he died.
>>130486928Cobain wasn't nearly as virtuosic as Mozart. He could play guitar okay, and couldn't read a lick of music.Mozart was so musically literate he didn't even need to write sketches, could write idiomatic masterworks for all vocal types and every instrument of his day, and he was a professional-level pianist, organist, harpsichordist, violinist, and violist by his absurdly young death at thirty-five.
>>130487008Sure KC wasn't musically educated or technically proficient.And he didn't need to because he wrote music in the age of mass culture.I'd only compare him in terms of melodic talent with Mozart. Both had a ear for catchy tunes that survived beyond their times and contemporary fads.
>>130487026Except Mozart was a lot more productive. He'd already written Idomineo, his Great Mass in C minor, his five violin concerti, his first mature piano concerti, the Haffner Symphony, the Gran Partita, and his Spring Quartet by the time he was twenty-seven. Kurt by contrast had three studio albums and a live album. All very successful, but not near Mozart's volume by the same age.
>>130485451Me too, but she's gotta be a lesbian. No way would a straight girl be that into composition.Couldn't hurt to try, tho'!
>>130480771This is a retarded take. And you should feel retarded.
>>130487075Mozi had to be productive because his client base was much more niche.He didn't sell millions of copies to the masses.Anyway I wasn't implying KC was on his level, only that he was a sort of late 20th century equivalent in popular music in terms of melodic talent.
>>130487075Also I don't see why quantity would be a criterion
>>130487104As long as the music's first rank, why wouldn't it be?
>>130480675>From a young age, Deutscher has repeatedly stated her determination to compose beautiful music and bring back melody and harmony to modern classical music. In a press conference of the Carinthischer Sommer Music Festival in 2017, which featured Deutscher's violin and piano concertos, she made a public statement about her style, her love of melody, and her musical aesthetics: "Why music should be beautiful".[38] She explained that many people have told her that beautiful melodies are not acceptable in classical music of the twenty-first century, because music must reflect the complexity and ugliness of the modern world. "But I think that these people just got a little bit confused. If the world is so ugly, then what's the point of making it even uglier with ugly music?".holy based
>>130478684If mozart made "mozart" style music nowadays, no one would give a shit. But he wouldn't be doing that, he would be making pop bangers nowadays or rap beats or something nowadays, if Mozart actually existed today
>>130487164That's a very simplistic way of thinking about this>>130487114Not everything Mozart wrote was equally great. Some of his works are a bit boring 2bh
>>130487185He would be making AI Drake hits and uploading them on Soundcloud
>>130486992And he'd be nothing in today's market because talent doesn't sell records. Being marketed does.
>>130487280t. talentless hack.
>>130487008so was Prince it? https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-36107807On his debut album For You, released when he was 20, Prince is said to have played every single instrument: 27 in all. In the album's notes he's listed as the musician behind "all vocals" as well as (deep breath) "electric guitar, acoustic guitar, bass, bass synth, singing bass, Fuzz bass, electric piano, acoustic piano, mini-Moog, poly-Moog, Arp string ensemble, Arp Pro Soloist, Oberheim four-voice, clavinet, drums, syndrums, water drums, slapsticks, bongos, congas, finger cymbals, wind chimes, orchestral bells, woodblocks, brush trap, tree bell, hand claps and finger snaps".
>>130487349u need a higher quality image
>>130487075>>130487026Kurt Cobain has a greater body of work than Mozart in retrospect, under the same timescale. Yeah, Mozart wins out on quantity. Quantity=/=qualit
>>130487185This is assuming modern pop/rap musicians are the Mozarts of our time. Realistically he'd be making incredibly intricate pop music that would be too smart to have mainstream appeal, yet not outwardly experimental enough to find appeal in fans of "weird" music. I can imagine him having a dedicated cult following though
>>130487308You could always try it yourself. Make something amazing and try to peddle it without any marketing involved. See how many people care.
>>130478684Do we even have the same patronage system they had back when? Hell, it's probably even worse now. He'd find some wealthy old bat to fuck and write all he wanted without having to earn a living.He'd be the leader of Geese.
>>130487185Trvke
>>130481260They didn't get it back then, either. Mozart had a hard time making a living
>>130478684Jazz musicians like chick corea are the modern mozarts, but most people don't give a shit. And yes I know he just died
>>130480729Can confirm.>"shit in your bed and break it"Mozart wrote that in a letter to his mother.Germans and Austrians have always had a scat fetish.Mozarts music was some of the best music ever written. I think he would be popular in any age. 1000 years from now they will still be playing his music.
>>130480948It's literally this.
>>130487230That's because you're a cretin. He wrote a decent amount of his music before his balls dropped, but even none of that *I've* found boring.And none of what I listed was among even his derivative works. All of it's excellent and transformative.
>>130487367No he doesn't. Everything I listed is at least as good or better than Kurt's best work.
>>130486157>sponsored by a king and performing in front of various aristocratsHe had many patrons, but he was also the first composer to freelance.
>>130488888True. He was actually quite bad at maintaining patrons, particularly for a man of his talent. Figaro deeply alienated him from the aristocracy and nobility.
