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How do you know if you're in a tasteprison?
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Do you have friends IRL? If yes, then you are in a taste prison
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>>130490717
A Gen X Jewish New Yorker told me that stuff was cool
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>>130490717
just try new shit even if you think you'll hate it, it's not hard bro
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>>130490717
Classics are good they are classics for a reason. It is also good to mix things up.
Go outside
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tasteprison is for midwits tricked by the framing effect. you're incapable of objectively evaluating work, of developing your own taste.
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Honestly try some bluegrass
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Wtf is taste prison? Is it one of those nonsense things like "nu-fun" on /v/ or "dishonest filmmaking" on /tv/, or is this an actual thing? Somebody please help a retard out
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>>130490717
Mark Fisher monging out about jungle music is funny
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>>130490717
If you don't actually like something and you only pretend to like it because a man in your computer told you you're a stupid idiot dumb if you don't
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>>130490717
that's a pretty weird picture.
i sort of get it though, i've liked some of the stuff in the list once, but now i don't give a fuck about any of it. being a pretentious faggot is part of being young, you will overgrow it.
>>130492277
i guess it's stuff that seems like the pinnacle of taste, preventing you from ever liking anything else.
why is that kike movie "uncut gems" in it though? and how can mayhem ever be considered "good taste"? i could go on
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>>130490717
you're forcing yourself into only caring about what the critics say
you're not engaging with the art properly, you're not developing a taste for yourself, you're not going for what you actually like; you're only caring about the image and appearing "cultured" by liking what it's considered "the best" by critics within the system
i recommend get out of that space for a moment, go listen to whatever the fuck your instinct tells ya to listen to not based on what critics or the inner circle say, just whatever you feel like
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>>130490717
What does Banh mi have to do with Death Grips or The Seventh Seal
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>>130490717
>trax records
Pretentious people aren't listening to 80s Chicago House, they're the ones that think its dated
The only electronic music these kinds of people listen to is IDM
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We are all in a tasteprison. Anybody who thinks they are outside of it are even more inside of it than everybody else. Taste will always be a product of social interaction and not something that just stems from your own brain. If you are some patriciancore tard who hates on what's popular then you are just in a different tasteprison.
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>>130490717
What the fuck is Mayhem doing there lol
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>>130497114
>Taste will always be a product of social interaction and not something that just stems from your own brain
care to elaborate more on this
you got me intrigued a lil bit
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>>130497114
The difference is always how much you love and care for your fellow man and how much you avoid doing unnecesary harm
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>>130490717
Everything in that image apart from Gabagool, the 'yota, and maybe the eames lounge is crap.
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>>130497279
mayhem is a seminal and fantastic band. the hipster counter there would be to put a first wave bm band in there instead i.e bathory. or is it you don't rate bm or metal as a larger concept?
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>>130497360
Can't say much more than that: To me, taste doesn't come from inside. It's a product of our actual daily activity and how we interact with the world. All ideas stem from this life as social beings in a material and ideal world that stands opposed to us as individuals. "Taste" is really just us internalizing a social consciousness that existed before we were born. Even when we try to be "patrician," we’re usually just acting out roles and ideas picked up from our environment to find our place. If I sorted RYM by esoteric charts, listened to 50 albums, and picked 10 for a list, am I not just acting out a desire for distinction taught to me by /mu/? And why did I like those 10 specifically? That likely has as much to do with my surroundings (trying to fit in, or trying to be special). I’ve changed my taste multiple times as my life circumstances shifted. I remember loving anarcho-punk in my rebellious teen phase which I can't even stand for a second anymore now. It's all a social structure anyway. To find your "real" taste probably just means understanding why your taste is what it is and just going with it.
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>>130498052
i mean, i agree that taste is deeply connected to social class, education, culture, and the desire for distinction
and yea sure taste is also influenced by your surroundings and its people you like to associate with
but like, even if your taste develops in a social context, it doesn't necessarily mean that there is no individual preference that just comes out of your brain, we all have different personalities after all; two people can grow up in the same family, attend the same schools, participate in the same subcultures, and still end up liking very different things, there is something 'individual' happening too
the idea that "people are a product of their environment" is correct but its not like that is always the case
the way it appears you are framing this is as if there are only two options 1. real taste comes only from the individual and 2. taste is completely socially determined, and then saying that is the 2. option only
but reality is somewhere in between or a mixture of both, maybe one more than the other one depending on the case??
idk i am not the smartest on this honestly, i just don't like your argument entirely
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>>130490717
Why on earth would this ever be a problem? You don't know what you do or don't like? You're more concerned about your "image"? Have you considered just.. not doing that?
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>>130492306
these people are not pretending they are just too retarded to understand or interpret anything on their own
thats why video essays are so popular, then these faggots repeat the retard reddit interpretation like a mantra and feel like they came to some true appreciation
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>>130490717
>not a single reference to over 1000 years of music composition
Phew, I'm safe
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>>130490717
Guilty on seven counts, what about (you)?
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>>130493454
thinking you're "hip" for listening to IDM is a level of delusion that only exists on /mu/ and reddit. it was pleb tier music sold at supermarkets from mid-90's to mid-2000's.
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>>130497832
only "live in leipzig" with dead on vocals is good.
here you go, the proper hipster take.
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>>130490717
Adjacent to anything to that i would claim this were an argument that were launched at design and abstraction as much as anything and that as result to the argument the arguer partially destroys the sense to design that the arguer has and were able to get back just on taste without higher level abstraction and design discussion at the moment the difficult were that on the long scale to things that the need to discuss design things and abstraction begins to press and some to the possible limits to hamann lee scratch perry are first broached and also from a refractory angle at approach there were normcore dub that appropriates content as content content qua content qua content and this were destructive and deconstructive movement because precisely the meaning to normcore at this moment were not something previously or calculated and still has the idea the norm to system to norms which is modernistic and but has the perspective that all patterns are cliches or something like that recycled arguments about design ought to also get brought up imanationism versus ex nihilo as far as design as design as idea as design qua idea qua design also too or something like that
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>>130500323
>1000
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>>130501559
Yes?
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>>130493192
i think its just saying this stuff is acclaimed by critics or considered "cool"/"highbrow"/"good taste', and if youre constantly trying to live up to that and reject anything outside of those constraints you are denying the opportunity for greater discovery
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>>130498052
I think a problem with this kind of reasoning is that it treats the mere existence of influences as some detriment to one's own individuation or free will or whatever you want to call it.
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>>130490717
thats not taste thats consumerism, the fuck do you need expensive fashion for thats the most retarded burn out of money you can do for 99% of the people in the planet
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>>130490717
We’re just making shit up now
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i used to like 4ad but i hate grimes so whatever
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>>130505146
because of politics or music drop off?
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ege bamyasi, uncut gems, stalker and velvet underground are me in 2020-core
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>>130504896
Even though social media has changed how people view the word "influence," being influenced by real life things and people (NOT parasocial media influencers or critics) is the way everyone acquires taste in anything to some degree.
Sharing a favorite band with your sibling or best friend is part of the human experience. Having a song become really meaningful to you because your father always listened to it while spending time with you is a thing to cherish.
I find it really cynical that someone would consider taste as a prison. Comes off depressing as fuck. Even if they are referring to how media, music, and hobbies are force-fed to people now without anyone really having a say in it. It's so easy to be yourself, own your shit taste, and be happy. Cynical peacocking is so annoying desuuuuu.
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>>130507170
>be happy
Should have said "content."
As in happy with your tastes, not happy in general.
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>>130505146
4ad kind of sux
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>>130501185
ummm… I’LL have what HE’S having
*audience whoops and hollers*
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>>130490717
are you listening to music that has guitar?
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>>130497114
>>130507170
This was AI generated btw.
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>>130490717
Oddly specific, but oddly relatable.
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>>130490717
Write out what all this shit is.



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