Is there any value in the stuff made by Steve Reich, the Lettrism movement or Nobuko Hori?When it comes to this weird avant garde stuff... to me it's just if someone released an unfinished experiment or doodling. With Steve Reich, I don't see with what he did was so innovative, anyone can loop something or sample something. And in the way he did it, has been more properly utilized by hiphop producers.Steve Reich:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsd50gJo5q4Lettrism:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLG0bZVv0lgNobuko Hori:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n7RikogS1ITo me this stuff is just stuff that needs to be reworked into a finished product.The views and the comments reflect the value of this work or the kind of people that pretend to enjoy it. It's not good. There is no value, by going deep into this rabbit hole, you'll not gain any new insight into the world or music.
>>130490784With Stevey you've got to listen to his other stuffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_2PwYmmbXI&list=RDD_2PwYmmbXI&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plL2VDAoThU&list=RDplL2VDAoThU&start_radio=1
>>130490784innovations in music begin in the absence of music.also, music is made by those who hear it, not necessarily the performer.
>>130490784>Value
is it true most of the players are trustfunders? sunojj, earth, swans, sonic youth...
>>130495674holy jesus fuck off>>130490784its 1965 motherfucker. there is no 'hip hop producers" you dumb cunt. its gonna rain p1 and p2 are fantastic. p1 is has a nice structure: it sets of the theme rhythm vs speech vs cognition, first setting up a theme explored in multiple variations, phrasing whose shape is altered by how it is cut and repeated. then it moves to a longer duration exploration in which time itself allows for the perceiving listener to reconstruct the patterns, and then the aleatory shifting alignment of the two tapes restructures the rhythms. its a time of discovery, of finding new, ''non-romantic, non-self-expressive" modes of inventive composition. same shit with the tone row. and it all returns as played music in drumming, with the players deliberately shifting there patterns while playing live, no tapes. time and long compositions was a big factor those years, as it should continue to be.if you cant get down with Its Gonna Rain, the problem is you, bro.
>>130495853if this music sucks so much, op, wheres the argument?
I only know Steve Reich from those you listed but Music for 18 Musicians is great.
>>130490784steve reich is good though and doesn't have the ugly anti-beauty marxist thing to it that most avantgarde shite has
