Soulwax editionThread theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZnJeNRuQUs>Production Resources:https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6qhttps://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributorshttp://mu-sic-production.wikia.comUse vocaroo to post WIPs.https://vocaroo.com/No youtube, soundcloud and other shilling websites allowed.Previous: >>130423743
Why shouldn't I stick a Limiter on every track in Ableton? Srs question.
>>130524276Just put a single limiter on the master instead. This is fine while fucking around but when actually mixing a track this shouldn’t be done so you can hear what is peaking.
>>130524276you should actually anons ITT don't knowbut you should also be controlling in a cascading manner with an actual logic to it and not just slamming every individual track or no reason
>>130524496That makes more sense to me. Sorry anon >>130524425. I was already sort of doing that, and you can hear how it changes the sound, but I think it's better to shape my sound around an already placed limiter, than to shape my sound, place the limiter, and then go >Fuck, now I gotta change it.because it doesn't sound like what you want.
accidentally cut a melody too long and looped it infinitely, it sounds kind of cool how it switches up throughout imo, probs one of the fav things ive recordedhttps://vocaroo.com/1kJKp8TYS0RL
>>130526452When you are actually mixing a track a limiter is just one tool you can use to control peaks, volume and loudness. It isn’t always the best choice. Sometimes a clipper works better for the specific sounds (snare drum or something with crazy transient spikes), or a specific compressor would work better to bring the volume down but increase perceived loudness, or nothing needs to be done and you should just turn the volume down. When I am just messing around making music I use Abletons stock limiter only for safety really, like if I want a crazy delay swell that could go out of control and peak everything and make me shit my pants. Or for a finicky hardware synth than could randomly get super loud. But when the track is finished and I want to mix it all these limiters are removed and I configure every track with what is best.
For double-tracking guitar parts, how tight do you try and get the takes and do you correct/align them later in the DAW at all? For pic related, would you bother correcting this or doing a retake at all? I'm just not sure what the acceptable margin is for timing/alignment between each take. It looks kind of bad, but sounds OK, and I know that usually means don't fuck with it if it sounds fine, but just interested to see what other people do. I'm not super comfortable doing alignment in the DAW cause I don't know how to do it without causing issues eventually (for every part I move it could cause a gap somewhere and it's awkward to realign things to sound right).
https://voca.ro/1e3MZwQncQimOpinions?
>>130528425wonky, like the soundtrack to someone's face drooping on one side before having a stroke
this is a live recording where i got room mics and vocal feed. how's it sound? any post-processing you would do to this?note: second vocalist used a different dynamic moving coil mic, turned low in volumehttps://vocaroo.com/1aNlbatvLWm6
what are /mu/s thoughts on AI powered guitar amplifiers?
>>130529495Not totally against it, but it's usage in a song should be declared as per the new /dmp/ AI regulations.
>>130529495why would we care, i already use NAMs for any guitar stuff i do
why are there so many tutorials of how to git gud out there but only like 100 people who do this as their primary profession
>>130528390meh, if its good its good anon. sometimes i like a little detune when doubling tracks. i was just trying something dumb like this today: https://vocaroo.com/1dnazyCEZf9U
>>130528390>It looks kind of bad, but sounds OKJudge with your ears, not with your eyes. Don't fall into the trap of judging musical elements by how they look on your screen.And if you want us to give an opinion you're going to have to give us something to hear, too.
A thread or two ago, some Anon said I gotta up the volume on it. I never got into mastering much yet, and I just fucked about with some basic mastering stuff and a master EQ. Thoughts on how it sounds? I think it's too muddy still.https://vocaroo.com/1nL8LBYnCUab
>>130528390Honestly, it depends on what you're going for. When I recorded some southern bro dude frat douche metal, I played everything a little sloppy and slightly dragging because it adds to it. When I record Fear Factory style industrial, I try to be as giga-tight as possible. If it sounds good for what you wanna do and doesn't unnecessarily push or drag, it's probably fine. You should worry more about being super tight when recording bass. A bass not being on beat fucks up your song way harder than a guitar that's a little off on occasion.
Opinions on this. Just a little snippet really. https://voca.ro/1oRCyTzxElIu
>>130528390If there isn’t some do between the two why double it? If you want it identical, duplicate the track in the DAW. The difference between them is what gives it the thickning effect
>>130532715>https://voca.ro/1oRCyTzxElIuGreat production, specially the percussion, crispy afgotta ask tho, do you actually know what to do beyond what you posted? with what's done so far it doesnt sound like it should go much longer than 2 minutes or something, since you already repeated the same vamp through the entirety of it. nothing wrong with that just that you seem to want to do more
Arturia really are ahead of every other company in terms of synth emulation and among the best effects. IDK about UAD because their shit will never be cracked and I won't buy into their bullshit.
>>130533566cringe. chuzo teach him what’s up with your reddit quotes
my collaborator is making me make the whole song :(
Anyone get frustrated with their current projects and just delete all the files and start over? I did that today. Everything was just sounding the same. I couldn't fucking work on them any longer. Became a chore Taking a month off to focus 100% of instrument practice and CONSOOMING different styles.
>>130533680>start overthat means the song sux just write a new one that’s good instead
https://vocaroo.com/19t901EjnsRNneed opinions on the mix
neural amp modeler 808smuch better than guitar rig sad subs thx(well… mostly…,,,)
HIGH VOLTAGEhttps://vocaroo.com/1iwZakJMoMlM
In Reaper, it defaults to .8 bandwidth for a HPF for me now. It looks like this. I dont understand EQ much besides it makes the boom go away but is it boosting from like 80 to 200? I thought default bandwith on Reaper was 2. Can someone explain. Why would you want a boost right where you are cutting?
>>130535869yes, using a high or low pass will cause a resonance. the steeper it is the more it boost, but the more quickly it will cut what it’s supposed to.
https://vocaroo.com/11LOwOvrSTLxsomething i whipped up in 5 minutes, what does it sound like?
>>130535869Sound design/mixingIf you want to capture certain frequencies or if u think certain frequencies are not needed. It is sculpting
>>130535869Resonance caused by phase shift
>>130536044thin, 0 low end, playing is a bit too sloppy on the palm mutes and the clean part, and i'm not a fan of the amp sounds either. the opening riff sounds ok, though and the drums sound decent.
>>130536260roger roger
took a 2 week holiday to sri lanka, trying to get back in the swing of thingshttps://vocaroo.com/1cx06geMh8I3
>>130533566https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmVB7CshXz4mogged
>>130536260https://vocaroo.com/1eG8wlBRnwkti didnt fix the palm mutes but spent a little extra time on it.
>>130530230most people are unironically retarded, like they'll do the bare minimum to pass the math tests in school, they won't go above and beyond to become an expert in math like terence tao. musical talent related things like absolute pitch and a great sense of rhythm are said to be quite rare. people say you don't need absolute pitch and pitch memory to become a (working-class) musician but you need some version of mozart tier ability to hear the polyphony in your mind to even comprehend the music properly just like how you would objectively fail to solve math problems if you overlook critical details. most normies can appreciate mainstream music to some degree but they don't seem to hear the production tricks directly, they just accept that what they see and hear from someone like elvis presley, michael jackson or taylor swift is their god-tier natural performance without technological enhancements. many anons are even less aware than normies so they'll have some narrow incel schizo music taste so they'll have an unwarranted confidence in their music making skills because most music sucks according to them so it won't take that much to make good music according to their subjective taste.
>>130538399keep seething.
>>130538438it unironically sounds like shit like even those normies acknowledge that the previous version didn't sound that great so they need this new version to improve upon it. but feel free to dedicate years of your life to consume this goyslop.
>>130538449feel free to spend money on shitboxes that are becoming obsolete by the day thinking you're totally red-pilled and out of the simulation. also don't lecture anyone about "subjective taste" bullshit while at the same time claiming that NAMs or even nebula plugins sound like shit without explaining why.
>>130538479it shouldn't need to be explained it should just come to you naturally, even when i was a kid with no clue whatsoever i could hear if things sounded good. if you got spoonfed with having free accesss to the best studio gear in the world you still wouldn't know what to do it because you don't have the goated talent.
>>130538495>you don't have the goated talent.and you do? let's hear it.
>order a Behringer UMC1820 audio interface from Sweetwater>works fine for a few days then think I hear a loud pop when I turn it on again>now the output volume is super low from the headphone jack>have to crank the headphone knob all the way and turn my computer volume to 100 to even hear anything>email Sweetwater and ask to return and get another one>they send me a new one and say to keep the broken one >exact same issue>WTF>mess with it for a few minutes and realize there is also a "Monitoring" knob that is all the way down>turn it up>I can hear everything again>test "broken" unit>works fineLooks like retardmaxing is finally paying off.
>>130538562even if i posted music you're literally too retarded to appreciate it, anons have complained about countless objectively top tier successful songsfor example these would fly over many anons heads:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=safzyuZNCGIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gKpREE5Z3whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNDh7d4FoK4
>>130538580concession accepted.
>>130538603it's basically common sense, most people even if they spend decades playing an instrument and learn to play elaborate classical compositions, they're just performers like a trained monkey, most of them aren't any good at composing themselves, they don't have that mozart tier thinking ability. production and mixing goes many layers deeper working with the sound directly, most amateurs focus on the instruments like synths and don't get deeper involved with other studio gears like compressors, EQs, reverbs etc.
Yeah I bet your UK garage Sweet Caroline Dubstep remix is Mozart tier with the production. They call him maestro EQ.
>>130538767van halen jump is one of the most cliche synth riffs and guess what>They began learning the piano at age six,[13][14] commuting from Pasadena to San Pedro, Los Angeles, to study with an elderly piano teacher, Stasys Kalvaitis.[15]>Van Halen never learned to read music.[16] Instead, he watched recitals of Bach or Mozart repertoire and improvised. Between 1964 and 1967, he won first place in the annual piano competition at Long Beach City College.[clarification needed][15] Their parents wanted their sons to be classical pianists, but the boys gravitated towards rock music,[17] and were greatly influenced by 1960s British Invasion bands such as the Beatles and the Dave Clark Five.
Is it even possible to make a song palatable to the masses without using pitch correct anymore? It's been used by every major artist for the past 30 years I personally like imperfections in music
>>130540876are you interested in making music for others or yourself?
>>130541057Myself but anyone who says they don't care if other people listen to their music is lying.I also have not recorded myself singing/playing together yet so I don't know how it will even sound in a mix without any type of pitch correction.I like 70's stuff so that's what sounds good to my eat and I have no idea how heavy any type of vocal pitch correction was back then
>>130540876I don't use pitch correction. Simple as.
>>130541205Any vocal training? How do your vocal sounds in the mix?
This is p. great. Found it while searching for all-in-one bundles.https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/2-Effects/53-Multi-Effect-/12451-MixBoxGonna try to post some vocaroos later.
>>130541162>I like 70's stuff>vocal pitch correction was back thenthis is bait right?
>>130541427They had digital tuning AFAIK but I don't know shit about production so correct me if I'm wrong
>>130541473anon you are a good 25 years off
>>130524276you're still going to sound like shit but at least it's smarter than putting a limiter on the master.
>>130538578i tried one of these (smaller unit) and returned it the next day. the sound was so shit i didn't even recognize my own tracks. you would think all audio interfaces sound the same, well not with behringer. they're not loud enough or something
>>130541561Well did they do any touch ups on vocals in the 70s?Again I'm a retard when it comes to production
What's the best way to sing on pitch? Play the vocal melody on piano and have it come through a headphone while singing?
>>130542093no the normal way is to master matching pitch and having relative pitch down.you hear one note, match, and can go anywhere from there.if you don’t know your scales/intervals then you should learn those.vocal lessons are worth paying for if you’re struggling.
>>130541651>they're not loud enough or somethingDid forget to turn up the monitoring knob then? If you are plugging in headphones you have to use both the Monitoring knob and the Phones knob.All interfaces do sound the same. Of course there are better and worse input pres but the output sound of all interfaces made after like 2005 essentially sound the exact same and should have little to no noise assuming you are using it correctly. Expensive interfaces are expensive because of features, not because they sound better.
>>130535935>>130536161>>130536178that makes sense ty
Any of you retards running reaper on Linux? Having a few issues getting windows vsts to work w/ yardbridge, wondering if just installing reaper in wine would be easier/work better
>>130542985went through this several months ago and couldnt figure it out. i have so many windows vsts, i ended up just doing a window 10 partition strictly for production. i forgot if it was guitar rig or valhalla verb or maybe ezdrummer but one of them was crashing.
>>130542042People just knew how to sing back then.
>>130543303yeah I might end up doing it too, or even just get a laptop purely for production. It sucks because Linux is now 100% fine for everything else, gaming included. I will continue trying for now though.
How accurate are pitch monitors? I can harmonize when singing along but when I do the same with a pitch monitor it's all over the place especially when I change notes
>>130542042they had the original eventide harmonizer released in 1975. anons are literal retards who don't know shit.
>pitch shifting is the same as autotune
>the legendary artists struggled with caveman technology and did nothing special beyond the bare minimum of recording a performance
>>130544915yes that’s exactly what they were asking about, clearly
I tried to make a sample-based beat. I'm still trying to figure out how to export stems or at least to mix a little better on my sampler, so that's a little rough, but I'm having tons of fun, so that's gotta count for a percentage point or two.https://vocaroo.com/1iHklvGrcUQh
>>130545187you're literally a stupid child like you think people just sang like god damn wizards and did nothing special in the studio. yet you're here in 2026 and you can't remotely sing like that.
>>130545378>stupid child brings up random tangentially related thing, strawmans, then calls other people stupidwelcome back. /prod/ was almost tolerable to read without you here. good riddance
>>130545624anon said>any type of pitch correctionwhich doesn't mean the most cartoonish use of autotune that any normie knows about. professionals have manipulated pitch with tape varispeed etc for ages.you people are literally useless and are effectively just trolls but you're not even clever trolls in any humorous way you're just ugly stupid people who are devoid of any creativity
>>130545639you know that’s not what he was asking.
>>130545670so they miraculously just found not one but TWO god tier singers for ABBA and they just sang in such a way that it still btfos virtually all professionals half a century later
>>130545677nobody cares about whatever dumb ass point you think you’re making chuzo go get a fucking life so you can stop harassing the good people of this general
>>130545709concession accepted
bro thinks people can't just be good at singing lmaoooo
ive been using a upright bass where i really need a acoustic bass vst and I'm having issues eqing it to sit right without too much boom. its meatbass soundfont. the arrangement for bass has it anywhere from d#1 to d#3. how would you approach it? im cutting at around 50hz right now but i dont hear enough definition in the upper mid range. and the boom is over powering my sparse mix of just piano drums and vocals https://voca.ro/1ot87eOHOwtv
https://vocaroo.com/1kmEY08Vf5q3the metal thing i was working on yesterday. hows it sounding now?
>>130546623compress it to fuck, that's the trick for mixing bass guitar generally. Multiband can do the trick if it's just the lowest string giving you grief
Guys what are some good headphones for production? What do you guys use?
>>130546623>50 hzwhy? you’re booming at like 100if you haven’t tried already try lowering the velocity to see if those notes are more balanced
>>130546472sure buddy keep practicing your singing and you'll get scouted any day now
about half of the population, perhaps more in 4chan dweebs with odd music taste, are effectively braindead in their emotional response to music, and this is just for basic enjoyment of listening to music before we get into talking about mozart tier thinking of being able to fully comprehend every aspect of the music and being able to create new great sounding music
the frequent appeals to exceptionalism and some secret knowledge are so fucking funnywe all know (((they)))) think like that and this pathetic little pissant has to apply the same logic to making music just to feel special lmao
>>130547317it's a gamechanger to know that (((you))) are unironic goyim who are addicted to playing runescape etc so it's not like i have to compete against a million max martins, you're literally just cattle
>>130547327>there's no serious competition, let's not even try to be better than them
>>130547728you have some funny/sad toddler brainlet idea of what "try" means. you think you can just open up a DAW and shit out a track and that counts as trying. you're not even attempting to learn the 4d chess that the real top tier producers are playing. people like you stretch the definition of what a human being even is when you lack the basic brain wiring as in >>130547290 and you're just utterly incompetent without being self-aware of your incompetence.
>>130547757>let's call the competition bad so I can feel better without actually being any better
>>130547769you're objectively bad, like a school kid might get a passing grade in math, but the teacher knows that the top student is like glowing swollen head genius compared to them. if i wanted to become a professional mathematician, it would be intimidating to try to go up against people like terence tao, but i can still easily be a genius compared to random stupid people like you. music doesn't have the objective criteria to judge in the same way as math, so you might be incredibly bad at it without knowing it yourself, but most normal people just "know" if you're an incel wannabe artist so they'll avoid listening to your music.
>>130533566https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me9NrYHNhZEarturia is so gay that it loses even compared to a digital synth DSP emulation that makes no attempt to capture the character of the analog signal path of the hardware synth
>>130545188you really took a fat shit all over it at the 43 second mark. didn't go past that, but it was kind of enjoyable until that point.
>>130547803>>1305477691v1 please
>>130548081I will even organise it. What genres do you want? Want me to pick a sample or something else to imitate or measure against ?
>>130548081>>130548088chuzo will never make or post anything. he is in every /prod/ and /dmp/ thread and doesnt actually produce or make digital music. he is either an actual schizo with a hyper focus on his own GAS or just rage baiting. either way he has been here for years doing fuck all but call himself a genius for watching youtube videos, hes never going to post a song because he likely will never attempt to make one.
>>130548081He'll chicken out with convoluted mental gymnastics, I won by default already.
>>130548159says the arturia user
>>130548165Says the chicken. There, it's settled.
>>130548173i'm in no rush to make music, those kids who just start posting low effort tracks end up as literal whos 99% of the time. if i posted music you would just troll me no matter how good it is and you would try to dox me. it's normal to require time to practice and i'm setting up my own top tier hardware not just hopping in and recording in a generic commercial studio. you sorely underestimate the scale of my enlightenment, you're showing time and time again that you don't understand sound so you think you can use things like stock plugins and arturia soft synths. even if your songwriting were good, which it isn't, you wouldn't have an advantage over other producers in terms of sound. you're just hoping, you don't know that i can't get good at songwriting because then i will have mogged you in every way possible in a fraction of the time that you've been into music production.
>>130548003>this guy againJust post your hardware synth collection already and let us see what is inside the master's studio.
>>130548321>if i posted music you would just troll me no matter how good it is and you would try to dox meWrong, I'd change my mind about you not being able to make music. I'd be humbled on that point. But let's be real: it isn't going to happen anytime soon, as years have proven.
>>130548378>the hard part of making music is to use a DAW and print a track>not learning the countless other things about music culture, music recording history etc etc to be able to deliver a finished product that gets accepted by an audience as being a great work art
>>130548393Meanwhile, IRL: crickets. Farewell, keyboard warrior.
chuzo tongues my anus, simple as. what a waste of reply count.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMp4oUjIQnY
https://www.thomannmusic.com/intl/soma_warp.htmShould I buy this or the fact it’s digital is a dealbreaker?
>>130549300https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-Dg-Kt7bP8
>>130549364my dick…
>>130546761Sennheiser 650 are best, but if you have ambient sound around you like AC or road noise you may want to go expensive noise reduction ones
>>130524024https://vocaroo.com/1ey7SAuiZjYty2k tranceslop
>>130549364Fucking YT slop product shilling channel. This sounds like shit. Who are those chance settings for as well? I don't understand why you would use random settings for effects. I like to very purposefully add in sounds and have full control over them, though, and I don't do any glitch shit so maybe it's a genre thing?
>>130550404it has dozens of algorithms with tweakable parameters. git gudhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_dSzeJy1RY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbLA8GFX1oI
>>130550485i won't buy your 900 dollary doo shit box
>>130550839cope
My drop. Going for wonky, crude, amateurish dubstep you'd find on youtube in 2010-2012I know it's ear rape but it's a specific kind of ear rape I'm nostalgic forBack in the day I had a bunch of shitty 128kbps youtube rips of crappy dubstep I'd listen to in my mom's mini over a very lossy mp3 to cassette tape converterhttps://vocaroo.com/1cnVmPZUdMM9
>>130550901what's the point, I'll never be able to out cope you.
>>130551003https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLCAS71DNG0
>>130551038I'm not opening any of these and Ur gay plus any music you make is bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7c5AYkt4_o
>>130548076Okay, good, I'm glad someone agrees. I was iffy on that part and kept second-guessing it, but decided to call it done. I think it's just too busy compared to everything else. I wanted some contrast, but I think I went overboard.
>>130551534mandatory sterilization of all redditors
/dmp/ new album listening party get in herehttps://dmpproductions.org/party/>https://dmpproductions.org/party/https://dmpproductions.org/party/>https://dmpproductions.org/party/
https://vocaroo.com/1i9xOPNu9qbZsloppy jam of the day, any opinions?
>>130550951>https://vocaroo.com/1cnVmPZUdMM9i think you're achieving your goal but GOD is it loud anon>>130549630>https://vocaroo.com/1ey7SAuiZjYtgive it some bass for crying out loud brother, i like it tho the breakdown is peak 00s racing futuristic racing gamesigned>>130552211
Thoughts? Did I unretard the mix and make it louder and clearer properly? I know the choir needs to be a little louder past 48 seconds.>https://vocaroo.com/1oBdPi7Hcqqz
Watch or download the new /dmp/ album:https://dmpproductions.org/albums/#pitches-and-scores
>>130549364this lady seems purpose built to extract my cum tbqhwyf
