England for the English
Based Moz, WLM
>>130527423that guy's polish
>>130527423Based Moz. Right as per usual.
>>130527423He was racist tho
>>130527581*England for the English and Polish
>>130527622So murder is ok as long as you deem the other person racist?
>>130527749all white people are racist and only white people can be racist
>>130527749Nah, just saying bro was racist. Nothing else. Why are you putting words in my mouth bro?
>>130527805innit bro proper vicked akhi
>>130527749>all white people are racist and only white people can be racist
>>130527833I don't making the rule bhai britishers do
>>130527805You said "tho", so you disagree Morrissey's sentiment. Don't be evasive now.
Fuck /pol/, and fuck Moz.
>>130527867Keep crying, Adul
While Morrissey probably agrees with the sentiment, posts on his website are usually not his unless they're signed off by him, it's his cousin I believe who usually posts there
>>130527423It’s the same old SOS.
>>130527423common morrissey W
>>130528060Based >>130527948Nephew I believe
>>130527622So?
>>130527423This shit happened last year, why the sudden fuzz?
>>130528722Because of the bodycam footage released which reveals that the kid would probably still be alive if he wasn't white.Seriously, the only reason why he is dead is because he was white, firstly targeted and stabbed because he was white, and belittled and cuffed by the cops in his last moments alive purely because the cops believed his non-white murderer And where is the global outrage and """peaceful""" protests? Nowhere, fucking nowhere
>Fuck /pol/, and fuck Moz.
>>130528844We still don't know if he said something racist to him before that.
>>130528916Awwww is timmy mad we don’t like hearing a obese boomer cry in his shitty music for girls?
>>130529019britishers will pay for their crimes
>>130527886Cooked that desert retard
>>130529019This buck needs breaking then a hole blown through the back of his absolutely empty head
>>130529278>>130529183Morrissey makes trash music snd is racist to Bengali
>>130529311Moz makes God tier music. You're deaf, retarded and you completely misunderstood the message of that song.
>>130528916>Awwww is timmy mad we don’t like hearing a obese boomer cry in his shitty music for girls?
>>130527423QRD on the kid that got murdered?
>>130527423Morrisey was hating jeets before it was cool. Bengali in Platforms, 1988, a song plainly telling jeets they're not welcome here. Based as fuck
>>130527805We should be racist to a protected class thats allowed to carry around long knives when no one else is
>The modern loony Left seem to forget that Hitler was left wing! But of course, we are all called racist now, and the word is actually meaningless. When someone calls you racist, what they are saying is 'hmm, you actually have a point, and I don't know how to answer it, so perhaps if I distract you by calling you a bigot, we'll both forget how enlightened your comment was
>>130529502>>130529337Timmy cant keep the narrative straight lol
Flush your western plans.
Johnny marr was the real talent let’s be for real.
>>130528991he probably didn't but even if he did that doesn't warrant the way the police treated him let alone stabbing him, negros call people cracker every day but we don't handcuff them over that we handcuff them because they robbed convenience stores
>>130529902Where is Marr´s successful solo career by the way?
>>130529942Hes done better work with electronic and modest mouse
>>130529979Really? Are you trying to make me laugh?
>>130529979That Modest Mouse he played guitar in is shit. It was their worst album up until that point.
>>130530067Better than the melodramatic crap morrissey is putting out
>>130527581Not all people are equally capable of becoming English.To have a chance, you need to be of a nation with an average I.Q. of at least the low 90s, and no higher than a low-single-digits prevalence of cousin marriage.
>>130530106>MM>not melodramatic crapAre you fucking serious right know?
If you do a Google trends search of Morrissey or the Smiths, India comes in dead last for listeners.
This one affected me more than many of the other tributes/rants/etc out there. Proof (if we needed more) that Morrissey is an artist with a fine ear for words in the right place.
>>130527423Ok when's he going back to Ireland?
>>130530137i'm no authority on MM later albums but their early ones are hardly melodramatic
>>130530290Morrissey is a patriot and a friend of the English people; he has made many immortal contributions to the English arts; his family come from a neighbour country with which we have a long (if not always friendly) relationship, and from which people easily assimilate. He is the very image of successful immigration and a credit to England, his adoptive home. Shameless and foul is the tongue that could compare this fair familiar specimen to the dark turbaned creatures that slither out of the Punjab and across the channel, creeping and crawling over the face of this our once-beautiful England. If your father had loved you he would have disinfected your mouth with soaps when first he heard you mouth such effeminate lisping noises.
>white guy provokes attack, chimps out and shoots the guy>"it was self defense and he should be a free man!">other white guy provokes attack, chimps out and gets killed by the other guy in self defense>other guy gets 20 year prison sentance>"noooo he should be exectuted on TV so I can jerk off to it"this is why no one takes white people seriously anymore and will be replaced. rest in piss. I will play my sarod tonight in honor of your dying breed
>>130530564As recently as the 80's it was fairly mainstream to hear people in Britain complaining about Irish immigrants being stupid, violent white niggers and terrorists who had 15 kids and sponged off the dole. I literally used to hear this kind of shit as a kid on a regular basis. Its so funny to me now to see people acting as though Irish people and their descendants in the UK are close kin of the English, a few minor misunderstandings notwithstanding, and that they totally weren't lumped into the same camp as niggers, pakis and wogs barely a few decades ago.
>>130529631The song isn't bashing Bengalis at all. Read the fucking lyrics. Why would this need to be explained? Media illiterate retard
>>130529942They never have an answer for this. Marr is the Janetty kek
I mean, yeah? It is known that he's a chud for years now. Of course he'd think that way.
>>130530632>As recently as the 80's it was fairly mainstream to hear people in Britain complaining about Irish immigrants being stupid, violent white niggers and terrorists who had 15 kids and sponged off the doleWell that's all true, and probably has a good deal to do with why Moz so strongly identifies as English, not Irish. "It's so funny" to you, no doubt, that these things are relative, and that an Irishman is now regarded as a distant kin when compared with a black African, whereas before he was regarded as a stranger when compared with a native son of England. I suppose it would be a funny inconsistency for me to remark that apes are our brothers, when choosing between them and snakes; and in another context to say that, really, they're quite a distinct species from humans.Or maybe it's not that funny, and you're just an imbecile actually.
>>130530564It do be like that
>>130530611Getting rid of the death penalty was an even bigger mistake than letting in Africans and Southasians.But still not quite as big a mistake as socialism.
>>130530632As a Polish immigrant, I find it very insulting when retarded BNPite freaks who wanted us out 10 years earlier now use death of a descendant of Polish immigrants to stir up racial hysteria. Fucking embarrassing.
>>130530632Wow, it's almost like they imported waves of far worse immigrants and put everyone's past complaints about other groups into perspective.
>>130529979Translation: he had to ride other artists' coattails like he did with Moz because he has no actual talent on his own.
>>130530729>as a Polish immigrantYou've got some balls entering this argument "as a Polish immigrant". Not your country.
>>130530730You won't fool me like that, I know who they'll go after once they're done with brown people.>>130530770Ye, see, exactly what I'm talking about, fuck off xenophobic scum.
Amazing how timmycels cant talk about morrissey without going off topic almost as if his music is dogshit I wipe off my boot
>>130530795>fuck off xenophobic scum.I'd love for you to come tell me to my face that I should "fuck off" out of the country of my ancestors, Polack.
>>130530769Marr is a talented guitarist for sure. That can't be argued. But everything people love about the Smiths came from Moz and they get mad as fuck when you say this. He was that band and went on to even more brilliance.
>b-but I don’t care if his music is horrible h-hes based!
>>130527622The brown foreigner? Correct.
>>130530810>TimmyNo one takes anything you say seriously. You're downright peculiar though.
>>130530820kek bet 'your ancestors' were huguenot refugees if not way more recent immigrants than that.
>>130530833>But everything people love about the Smiths came from MozI really don't think this is true. But I don't understand these fights over how you divide credit. "The Smiths" without Marr doesn't exist. "The Smiths" without Morrissey doesn't exist. Anyone who loves "The Smiths" must love the way these two produced music together which distinctively bears the marks of each.And anyone who pretends they just loved Marr's guitar work but always loathed Morrissey's contributions either has no taste (maybe true of some) or is lying (most of them)
>>130530611We'll still be here long after you're gone.
>>130530895I'm sure you'd love it if that were true, because you've got a chip on your shoulder about not belonging and you resent that anyone has more right to this land than you do. For your own sanity's sake maybe you should go back to Poland.
>>130530897You have great points. But Marrfags aren't ever being genuine when they argue. I like them both but I'm more of a Moz fan. It's just crazy that someone as talented as Marr would waste his career this way. If he's happy that's all that matter though. It's not my life.
>>130530729You cunts held the door open.And here you are admitting it >>130530795
>>130530951I belong here, I got irl friends. I quite like it here - except for the absolute retards like you (which thankfully I rarely meet irl).
>>130531010>I rarely meet irlThat might change.
>>130531010Do you really not have any notion that you are here at our discretion and that you owe some gratitude to the host? Of course I'm not asking you to thank me personally. But a baseline of politeness to the English people who decided to let you live here would be nice.
>>130531010Don’t worry lad your more British then them
>>130531045The Poles who remained in Poland report the improvements within their country after the wave that slithered here. Testament to the quality of our guests.
>>130531092Thank you, Muhammad.
>>130531032I don't think so, I don't live in a pensioner-heavy area, which is where the Faragists are.>>130531045Fuck your baseline of politeness if that twat comes in and tells me its none of my concern - and that's the favourable interpretation. Almost all my friends are English. There's English people I respect, some I like, some I even love. And then there's wastes of oxygen like you who are unworthy of any respect.
>>130528722Elon Musk astroturfing it. He's been spamming it on Xitter past 2-3 weeks. That's why the far right mongoloids are all of a sudden spazzing about an incident from 6 months ago. They received their latest programming update
>>130531120I'd enjoy crushing your thick skull with a club.
>>130531150You won't do shit mate. Go eat up whatever Lord Musk and GBNews shovel into your gullet
>>130531144The media concealed the whole thing 6 months ago. And you were hoping it stayed that way.
>>130531150Good luck fash trashhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYKAQZUAbHU
>>130531120It's actually not true that you owe someone zero respect if you don't like them or think they're stupid. You still owe me respect in a few different ways, one of which is a recognition of my native rights. I think very little of you, but I still owe you some amount of respect as a man, as a human being, as a long-term resident of this country, etc. And I don't think I am entitled to value those at nothing merely because you're a resentful foul-mouthed loser from Poland.
>we hear you, dying murder victims will no longer be subject to political commissars for no reason, and I hear the vile police officer involved is getting disciplined right now, but racism is still bad though btwWhy is extremely basic politics too hard for woke scum? Do they want to lose everything?
>>130531188Oh ye? Me not calling you a retarded mongangloid was promised to you 3000 years ago?
>>130531209The natural Brit instinct is to roll over and expose belly to anyone in a position of authority so I think they pretty much have you lot pegged correctly when they assume you won't do shit.
>>130531243They will do shit though, they'll vote for nigel farage who will win in a landslide because of retarded pointless shit like this.
>>130531211You easily come off the stupider of the two of us in this exchange, I'm pretty confident of this; but yes I do think you owe other people the decency not to insert yourself into other peoples' domestic affairs and cry like you've been struck when you're asked to leave the conversation. It's a very basic violation of social norms in any country in the world to behave this way.
>>130531296He has every right to insert himself into the domestic affairs of the country he is a citizen of little fashcuck
>>130531296It's 4chan, not House of Commons, you gammonfaced idiot.
>>130530729>As a Polish immigrantShalom
>>130531332>he is a citizenHe is not
The average bong makes the average burger look like a paragon of intellectual might and artistic taste.
>>130531374>the average burgeryou mean mexican
>>130531397>doesn't object to the core statement but merely quibbles over a detailNice self own.
Moz is a true punk rockerwhere are all those fags who pretended to rebel against the system, but keep quiet now?funny how their rebellion is basically mainstream points forced by media and politicians they "hated" so much
>>130527423when is Moz going to endorse Rupert Lowe
>>130531420The average jewmutt is an 80iq brown person, so your original statement is false.
>>130531420what if i'm mexican, retard?
>>130531423During Lydon's recent spoken word shows, he encouraged the flying of the English flag and ripped the left to shreds at every turn.
Leftists on 4chan literally never make positive arguments. I mean obviously you can't say "yes I do believe cops should essentially murder stab victims because of their skin colour" but can you really not come up with anything but "UR DA CHUD UR DA STOOPID"?
>>130531477hence "regret" in the file name, I know that he feels regrets about his past to some degree and is repulsed by modern Britain
I wonder if Alan Moore and his kind ever look around at Jolly Old Albion in it's current state and feel like dumb motherfuckers.
>>130531495You think I give a shit about cops? kek What's really fucking stupid is chuds using it as an excuse to be racist
>>130531551I don't need an excuse to be racist. My hatred of the other is self generated and pure.
>>130531551When are we going to have a better excuse to be racist than this? I'd say we're picking a very good moment to do it
>>130531551You're still doing it, you retarded motherfucker. Do you even have thoughts?
>>130531477He’s not punk hes corpo slop. Sex pistols was formed by an agency they were never real punk
>>130531551>Israel bombs another childrens hospital>BUT DID YOU EVEN THINK OF THE BACKLASH AGAINST POOR INNOCENT IDF SOLDIERS????t. you, presumably
His second album is his worst, btw. No good songs, at all.
the West was much better off without browns so why would anyone not be racist? there's no benefit to you in our countries
>>130531551One day you may understand that non discriminate behaviour is an artificial construction for those without subjectivity. It natural to find preference and bias in people. Ice skating uphill is a fools errand, and ethnic Russian eastern Ukrainians deserve a vote for their independence and self determination.Regardless of what the EU fed you.
>no matter how obnoxious and rude I am, you are stupid if you hate meI can't believe I ever doubted whether "spoiling" is real (unconditional appeasement => mediocrity and narcissism)
>>130527423Am I supposed to know who the fuck that is?
I have no problem with immigration as long as it consists of young hot Ukrainian women who I can fuck. Hohol men are not welcome and need to stay in the trenches.
>>130530290The Irish and the English are essentially the same people, shut the fuck up
>>130530290Irish Blood, English Heart
>>130531597And real punk is?
>all these angry hibernians I'll give you lads this much, no finer race of Men ever peeled a potato.
>>130531702Dead Kennedys
>>130531423Moz truly is the king of this place. Started a civil war in here without even trying kek.>>130531423
>>130532002Kek
>>130531597>muh authentic punk>in 2026Move on you old faggot
>>130531168the famously liberal UK media. PMSL
>>130531662From medieval times through until the last 30 years or so, most English people thought the Irish were a barbarous lesser race who were a complete anomaly in Western Europe
>>130532056Sex pistol and morrissey is the establishment enjoy your slop punk
>>130532198You are an out of touch old progressive and nobody cares about your punk moralism
>>130530730There have been blacks and pakis in England since the late 40's, and it was pretty standard during the following decades to hear your average fat pub bloke cursing the them along with the Irish in the same breath. Then Ireland went from being a borderline third world shithole to something at least superficially akin to a normal western country and then it was the turn of Poles, Lithuanians and Romanians to have the dubious honour of being the white niggers of Britain.
>>130532087The same media who concealed the real photo of the African who murdered the 3 young Taylor Swift fans. You probably piss yourself regularly as a fetish
>>130532242>You probably piss yourself regularly as a fetishWeirdly specific but ok
>>130530833>everything people love about the Smiths came from MozThat's not true at all, m8. The very first chords of "Heaven Knows" and "William" got me hooked. Moz just sealed the deal.
>racists should be killed>only white people can be racist>all white people are racist
>>130532241>There have been blacks and pakis in England since the late 40'sHow many?
>>130531702https://youtu.be/wqX_q_F2fOQ
I don't think racists even remotely understand Moz's point of view and are premature in claiming him. Yes he's no friend of cozy television-liberal platitudes, but there's a reason his artistic embrace of anger and of hate, those great taboos, did not also come with any declaration of love for fascism or racism. He has always explicitly disavowed racism.
>>130533375loads probably
>>130527581This. A decade ago the Robinson/Farage brigade wanted his lot out but now they're doing performative yank bullshit for him. Embarrassing
>>130527749Yes. What are you gonna do about it?
Morrisseys views are extremely simple.He has aspergers and wants the world back to the way it was when he was a child.All of his favorite films are mostly European from the 50s and 60s, and his favorite bands are from the 50s to 70s.He just wants everyone who moved somewhere else after this era to go back to their home countries.He's not racist in the sense that he has hatred towards other races and cultures, he wants his home back.He LOVES the black girl groups and black male Motown singers of the 60s, for instance, he doesn't want blacks to leave the United States because they were already there in the 60s.For example, he doesn't want a city like New Orleans to be changed from its legacy of black/french culture or San Francisco with its legacy of hippies/gays to turn into cities of pajeets.Preserve your cities, preserve your countries, preserve your cultural identity.
>>130533916No surprise here. People thought National Front Disco was him being encouraging of that group
>>130533916He's definitely a far-right racist. You're just coping. He's just not necessarily as racist as some even more extreme far-rightists.White nationalism is retarded, as is all other ethnonationalism (Jewish nationalism, Black nationalism, etc.)
>>130538314He wants just enough black immigrants to have stories like A Taste of Honey, but no more.
>>130527423Will he write a song about this? Bonfire of Teenagers was great.
