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Why is modern shoegaze so boring?

I swear not a single good shoegaze band has come out post-90s. At least on the level they used to be.
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Right now, you can go to the music store and buy the correct, certified Shoegaze Guitar(TM), Shoegaze Pedal(TM), and Shoegaze Amp(TM). Small wonder that any music made using these tools sounds completely unoriginal
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>>130532966
no good hooks or melodies, just vibes. also no one's willing to experiment as much as MBV did with loveless.
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>>130532966
because i haven't release my stuff yet, but just you wait, it's coming
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>>130533218
>>130533232
This is so true right here. Everyone wanted to do it and forgot to be creative in this process.

What is even more cringe is that the bands doing shoegaze now somehow think they're reaching the same levels.

I've never seen a scene so out of touch with itself.
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>>130532966
shoegaze in the early 90s wasnt a conscious scene per se, it was originally a derogatory term from the NME mocking their lack of stage presence. they all sort of had similar influences like JAMC and cocteau twins but otherwise had other elements/quirks that separated them (swervedriver and catherine wheel had a lot of hard rock influence, chapterhouse was heavily influenced by madchester/indie dance trends at the time, ride had heavy 60s sort of jangle pop influence, lush were mainly cocteau twins and twee influenced)

modern shoegaze bands are trying to emulate a specific template
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>>130533218
this. those boring pedalboards. there is no aesthetic, no coherence
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>>130533423
What template are they emulating?
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>>130533423
yeah those scenes were pretty much part of baggy/madchester and the beatles were a big influence. you get lennonesque vocals and melodies in most of these original bands. mbv however were from a totally different background with a new approach.
>>130533463
often hum/pumpkins/ american alt metal. but 99% of the time it doesn't sound like anything but soulless internet era music.
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>>130533516
>>130533423
How about Slowdive?
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>>130533556
also from the og scene. beatlesesque but more goth-leaning than the rest
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>>130533232
This is why DIIV's Deceiver is one of the only modern shoegaze albums that are on the level of the 90s stuff. They know how to write hooks and riffs.
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for the most part I agree with a couple exceptions.
>Ringo Deathstarr
>Sweet Trip (different sound but occasionally they nail that classic shoegaze thickness)
>Fleeting Joys (despondent transponder)
the last one I just checked out and was surprised how good they were
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>>130532966
You’re not looking in the right places…. here’s a hint: listen for sounds more influenced by MBV (2013) than LOVELESS
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Americans got it right in the mid 90s when bands like 12 Rods and Swirlies and roster pilfered what they loved about the UK scene and twisted it into their own device... yeah, now everyone sucks because there’s a severe lack of grit and vision. The noise rock (Dinosaur Jr, Sonic Youth, Hüsker Dü) distortion gave way to ingenue Dream Pop effeteness. There’s only so much you can do with an analog delay and a chorus.
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>>130533463
>nirvana with reverb
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>>130533870
yeah those bands are all good. Fleeting Joys - Patron Saint is a classic to me at this point.
Guitar is good too
https://youtu.be/4ji_htdu8Bg
but yeah I was a "loveless is the only good shoegaze" kinda guy forever, took me a while to open up to the younger bands who were "doing it wrong". Most of them still are but I've got more patience for it now
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>>130532966
Can't afford shoes
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Shoegaze was always boring
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All the “shoegaze” I hear now sounds like Alt metal from 1998. WTF happened?
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listened to TAGABOW a few days ago for the frist time and why have they decided to make "shoegaze" feel as flat and lifeless as possible
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>>130537714
I swear it all sounds flat and lifeless. I went to a local show last night with shoegaze bands on the bill. And it just had me cringing most of the time. Just such a tired and boring sound.

Honestly feels like the one genre where the pedals are there to mask any creativity rather than support it.
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What even is the current trend in Shoegaze??
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>>130537695
failed deftones clones
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genre gets pigeonholed into being a very specific thing and suddenly what was once experimental and fresh is now derivative.

Happened with post-rock, when it started out it was loosely defined and could vary vastly between bands, then it became emotional crescendo-core and got boring as a result. Wasn't until 2014 that something interesting happened with the genre again with To Be Kind, which took the crescendo thing to its absolute upper limit by punching it into you with numbing repetition, there's not a single song on that album that feels hamfisted or like its trying to make you "feel".
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>>130532966
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwnDx87q6J8
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>>130533232
mbv sucks. overrated trash.
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>>130538694
This is like 12yo old
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Old band, album from 10 years ago, but it's got solid songs and good guitar textures
https://kaironirse.bandcamp.com/album/polysomn-2
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>>130538552
hum
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>>130539106
OP wanted stuff that was post-90s
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I've been really enjoying whirr's raw blue lately, probably one of their best albums
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3xiRrV0zr5U

Nemo - In Stereo

This album is getting a repressing soon



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