Jazz is so awesome, bros. Why have they forsaken it?
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>>130550167Same reason why the middle class went from stocks to dreaming about being landlords and men stopped having close friends after college— The Great Depression.
>>130550276This and crackdowns on weed & opiates.Jazz musicians liked getting high but also liked being classy. Being a criminal isn't classy so blacks migrated to the music that glamorized being a criminal. Rock was always a lot more rebellious so it wasn't as big of a problem for whites.
Rhyming as a grown man is just kind of gay.
>>130550202Complete nonsense.
>rap is dyingFALSEThe #1 song in the country right now is RAPRap occupies 4 out of 10 of the hottest songs in the US
>rap is dyingFALSEthe #1 artist in the country is a RAPPER
>>130550924>>130550934>drake>rapper
>rap is dyingFALSEthe #1 album in the country right now is RAP a RAPPER currently has 3 out of 10 hottest albums
>blacks turn against ZOG after 10/7>rap immediately dieshmmmmmm
>>130551009>>130550924>>130550934>>130550948>rap "died">while simultaneously holding the #1 song, #1 album, and #1 artist in the country explain this logical inconsistency
not music
>>130551028It's not #1 once you remove the Indian bot farm views.
>>130551028drake is almost 40, its pathetic that rap needs him to be relevant, its pure desperation its the last desperate fart from a dying corpse
>>130551160even when he was in his prime he was basically the Air Supply of hip-hop
>>130551028easy explanation: incels don't live in reality and ignore anything that goes against their headcanon. >anecdotal tiktok of a black person saying they don't like rap: LOOK SEE RAP IS DYING KEKEKEKEK NOT MUSIC>current billboard showing half of the top 10 is rap: .........................*crickets*............................
>>130551191I mean, they need massive botted Spotify views to get those numbers, so...meh.
>>130551160wtf is this ageism? kanye release TLOP, his magnum opus, the peak of his cultural relevance, at 40 years old. completely incoherent argument
Drake is a gay actor who became the face of gangster rap. You're gay too if you like anything related to actor Drake.
>>130551202streams are only one of the sources used for billboard rankings so keep huffing that copium
>>130551202the newest chapter in the very old story of Payola. lest you think Pat Boone's 72 Billboard hits were also legitimate.
>>130551263the fact that rap is still dominated by 40 year olds is a sign its dying, rap most of all has hated old people and embraced youth.kanye is a retard, no one cares about his music, he is a stunt queen who says or does something outrageous for attention, but he hit the wall, went too far with the hitler stuff, and anyways, dude is almost 50
>>130551191HOLYBASED
>>130551330Let's be fucking realistic that 90% of people only care about 2004-13 Kanye.
All rappers do is lie about successful they are
>>130551351thanks for that seething (You) incel. i've been collecting a lot from you lately, quite proud of myself.
Last Hip Hop star I responded was Spaceghostprrp & that was 20 years ago
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>>130550865Look at me in the eye and tell me this is a straight man.
>>130551460What is it with this board always talking about black people and homosexuality?
All big rappers bot streams
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>>130551557I bet we could figure it out if we think real hard
>>130551611No thanks, I'm not thinking about them 24/7 like you are
>>130550158the people that say "rap is dying" is chronically online nerds who haven't interacted with casual normie people and forget how the world is out there, they don't interact with normies enough time so they think everyone is how in their world is, however just talk to casual people, rap is still very well alive and still has cultural impact
rap died when the criminal outfits funding it got RICO-ed in the late 2010s
>>130551637Reggaeton took over along time ago, son. Just step foot into any city of choice
>>130550934Okay, I feel like a retard. I listen to a new album at least every 2 days and I've never heard of the last three. Who are these people?
>>130551637I went to go visit my cousin who's in college a number of times over the past few years. Every campus party we went to was blasting rap. It is still very much relevant.
>>130551637not when all rappers of note are boomers it's not
>>130550924It's Taylor Swift for blacks
>>130551769countryslop they pay to get played on the radioradio play is weighed more heavily on charts
>>130551028American music across the board is dying, rap being popular just means it is dying the slowest.
>>130552019we're recovering from the DEI era but it's a slow process
>>130551460I don't feel comfortable looking in the eye of someone that has this saved on their computer...
>>130551028It's Drake and Drake alone pumping and dumping 3 albums.
>>130551597makes sense because this little mexican nigga was the most astroturfed nigga alive, same goes for Lil Pump
>>130550158>I wanted niggas to stop dyingwait a minute...
>>130551202Drake is the first rapper to get a no.1 song in awhile anon. I like drake but sheesh rap is definitely on the commercial decline.
>>130550202Just like the crack psyop, literally all you have to do is not crime.
>>130551460>Faggot wigger who hung out with WHITESnot indicative of actual gangsters making musicTupac was a faggot
>>130551263Kanye is a shit writer held up entirely by beats that he doesn't even make like most rappers.
>>130551557the effects of jefre cantu ledesma
>>130550924>>130550934>>130551028>rap is being carried by Drakeit's dead dude. People were saying the same thing about Rock music by the mid 2000s as it was being carried by shit like Nickelback, now you know how this feels
rap actually be about having a personality n shiet and not just being the fastest. niggas is delusional
>>130551780Yeah dude, years ago being the key. Objectively its not selling as much while Country is moving into the dominant genre.
>>130551637I interact with normies all the time and none of them listen to rap, it's all pop music or country.
>>130550202So who were the DL's?
>>130554441no one is listening to country and if anything that's even more astroturfed than rap lol
>>130550795... is what a joyless sack of sadness would sayC'mon man, lighten up and have some fun for a change.I promise you, rhyming is neither queer nor strange
>>130550924>>130550934>>130550948>>130551028More blatantly botted and rigged than the 2020 Presidential election.
>>130551424It's interesting how many people can't see through it.
>>130553300probably pre-teens
>>130553867Kanye literally broke into the music industry as a producer of other peoples' beats.
>>130553867Kanye solo work was created off of the sound that The Avalanches brought to the mainstream and he's collaborated with other alternative artists since then
>>130554726>no one is listening to country andyou don't live in the South, i take it. btw don't come down here if you hate country and don't want to be subjected to it 24/7.
>>130554840no one wants to come down there, don't worry
>>130554317this but unironicallyI know white people think Eminem or Tech N9ne rapping fast are impressive and label them as GOATs just for that but it really isn't that impressive if you don't have any substance (+ only the first 2 Eminem albums are good, and Tech N9ne is just straight up garbage most of the time)
>>130551424Cardi B added a bunch of old ass songs on her last album and sold 1 million units before the album released hahahahahahahaha
>>130550167the conditions required for poor niggas to learn how to play instruments and thus make jazz don't exist anymoreall the way up until the 60s when recorded music started to sound really good, every single entertainment venue needed to have a live band of some kindthe larger the venue, the more musicians you needed, tooso there was a huge demand for people of all walks of life to learn how to play piano, sax, trumpet, bass, all the traditional instruments, just to fill spots in live bandsthat huge pool of musicians playing day in and day out because it was their life and livelihood is what created all the jazz greats we knowsince nobody NEEDS live musicians anymore, restaurants and clubs can easily get a DJ or just put on some employees spotify playlist, learning ANY musical instrument is a rich kid's pastime, not a potential form of social advancementbeing a genre that requires very high musicianship, jazz is hit very hard by this
>>130550202This truly is the most retarded woman on earth
>>130555716good post save for the jazz wanking at the end
>>130550158Vince is still making his style of rap like it's still 2018 and people are still into blm. He needs to evolve if he wants to stay relevant because that market is dead
What does rap even mean
>>130550158>the people that say "rap is dying" is chronically online nerds who haven't interacted with casual normie people and forget how the world is out there, they don't interact with normies enough time so they think everyone is how in their world is, however just talk to casual people, rap is still very well alive and still has cultural impact
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>>130552019nobody cares about Brazilian phonk, favela.
>>130555716>restaurants and clubs can easily get a DJ or just put on some employees spotify playlistJohn Philips Sousa famously wrote a rant in 1909 that the gramophone would be the death of music since people didn't need to play instruments for themselves anymore, so that argument has already been done and was discredited.
>>130560495as for the rest, real problem is not making demented enough music, people are too boring now or something, or maybe too self-aware. all great music is a little bit cartoonish. you do not impress anyone with Phoebe Bridgers's Borders sound system wallpaper.
>>130560561try compare 21st century R&B to the 50s. this stuff is just lifeless wallpaper. tf is the point of this except background noise at the mall?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF1F2osmOj0the 50s stuff was funny and LOLsorandumb. that's why music is dead. people forgot how to have fun at some point along the way.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMzrwC94BkM
>>130560625I don't think they were so concerned back then about checking a box on a list to see if the music was safe enough to play at Banana Republic.
>>130560495people still like to see live music but it's much more of a luxury now, and the people performing live in small bars and clubs do it as hobbyists, not professionalsit required recording technology to fully mature before the process started, but I think he was ultimately right
>>130560625Nobody ever accused Usher of a sense of humor.
>>130555716>Learning ANY musical instrument is a rich kid's pastimeInstruments were always expensive. What do you think doo-wop was? It was an acapella format for poor black and Italian kids who couldn't afford instruments.
>>130550795>religious cuck who hates art and expressionYOU ARE GAY
>>130562919That's the point, instruments and musical education are expensive so for poor people to even consider buying in there has to be a promise of steady work afterwards. This used to be the case, but it has declined ever since the 60s
>>130550865I don't think so
>>130562919Instruments are expensive if your garage band thinks they're entitled to a Gibson or other pro equipment when most famous musicians started out with cheap shit.
>>130550202Most of this is a stretch, but the second to last sentence. There is evidence that similar shit has been done in the past, war on drugs was a roundabout way to target minorities and hippies without the reason explicitly being who they were. Gov stopped pushing so hard when they realized gangsta rap was giving them a good excuse to target minorities and poor because it was selling criminality as culture. They're now not targeting minorities for existing, the targeting is because they're committing crimes while dressing up in colors, which hasn't seemed to be a problem in the eyes of the law.>>130553450Humans are social animals, social pressure makes people do fucked up things.
>>130550924>>130550934>>130550948Drake is a bubblegum pop singer, not a rapper, and his streams are botted.
who the fuck is in denial that rap is dying on 4chan? that's what happens when your industry is 3 decades old running on fumes and the 40 year old rappers just gate keep all the young people outanother big factor is that young black people are into shit like anime and manga now which is rarely rap adjacent
Whites invented rap..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs3dPaz9nAo
>>130564514Blalck youth are boycotting asian products so rap has a chance to revive itself.
What a bullshitter he literally talked about how he wanted the exact opposite when doing his gang banging. These people are just actors playing characters, he's just tap dancing to promote his mid rock album
>>130550333this. jazz always kept a hard line between the music and the subculture, but in rap there's almost never any distinction
>>130550924>#1 rapper is a c*nadian disney child starHiphop is dead
>>130563948>Drake is a bubblegum pop singer, not a rapper, and his streams are bottedHe's Sam Cooke if Sam Cooke had absolutely no talent or interesting songs.
>>130565633Black people can't make rock albums. Tyler the Creator tried getting one of his albums to be labeled under the Rock genre and it wasn't allowed. The guy in charge of kendrick lamars label made a post about it when mgks rock album went #1 and questioned why MGK was able to make a rock album but Tyler's albums were stuck being rap albums.
>>130566002Jimi Hendrix got punted from the black community for playing rock.
>>130551460broken yet zesty buck
>>130564514>anime and manga now which is rarely rap adjacentThis is Fling Posse erasure!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3qk4JAXygM
>>130550158>I wanted niggas to stop dyingquoth the gang member
Is all these blacks want in on rock just make rock songs and upload them on free streaming sites so you don't break whatever rap contracts they have. If your fans like the music and stream it the label will eventually allow you to make commercial rock music albums. Go play free sets at warped tour at noon with 10 people in the crowd. STOP BEING LAZY FUCKS AND DO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE DID TO GET STARTED
>>130566962You either die being against gang or live long enough to join one.
>>130550158I unironically had a dream that Lil Uzi Veri had 20k streams on Spotify
Yea ok
>>130550934>Have no idea who 3,4 and 5 areAm I out of touch or simply not American?
>>130566002Tyler should try making an actual rock album so it can be genuinely be labeled as a rock album. Mgks manager replied to that tweet and explained their process of making the album and everything that came with it being rolled out as a rock album. TDE guy congratulated them on the success but basically said Tyler should be able to label his music however he wants even if it's not actual "rock" music. Again people just not willing to put in the work and complaining about discrimination.
>>130550158The old guard is upset because the culture has changed and a lot of mutts have been produced, but the future of America is the mutt. So fuck them. I can't wait to see Jay Z's continued undoing, ugly fuck. The future is decentralized nobody cares about the publications and shit.
Idk these guys just seem delusional with a victim complex.
>>130551460Imagine the amount of money Gianni Versace paid to sponsor this spankbank photoshoot.
>>130551557Probably because of the degree to which the industry is controlled by predatory down-low homosexuals.If you ain't down to suck dick, there's only so much you're allowed to get famous.
>>130571369He could have forced them to put it in electronic. Stop being whining pussies and do what needs to be done. Ain't no red carpets being rolled out for anyone. Have a spine and get shit done.
>>130551009This is complete nonsense lmao. Rap died after USAID shut down. Look it up, there wasn't a single rap song on the charts since June 1st last year
hendrix is shit
>>130551460>guys im totally a thug
>>130550158(c)rap has always been terrible and probably a CIA psyop.
>>130571930It is
yo yo YO!!!Ima rapping loc yeah I don't fucking care about life UGH! YEAHHHHH
I like his old mixtape
>>130551330>went too far with the hitler stufflolhttps://x.com/petrogustavo/status/2063648979103957427
I like how he just assumes all non black people are and speak in racist absolutes
>>130571549This poster has an I.Q. of 117.
Why is don toliver the only rapper that the mainstream is putting all their support behind?
>>130550158>I, I just want world peacenigga says he's not interested in rap, but uses their "slang", damn ass niggas.
>>130550202Then why are niggas keeping it alive? Cuz they're dumb ass nigga! Think about it.
>>130575717>Then why are niggas keeping it alive?Why do people keep doing something if they were not taught otherwise?
I listened to his new album and it's trash this nigga went and made terrible boring music Kenny Beats left him to go make actually good rock music and he went and made this weakass gorillaz ass gil scott heron ass garbage Go pick a better white boy to make your beats again and get back to making good shit Mac dead but alchemist, kenny beats, fuck go get jack antonoff spend some of that netflix money nigga don't give this shitty crap black rock garbage nigga fuck you shoulda just got the black keys white boys to rhyme over their shit they done it before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Uqont-9msthis song better than every song on that trash ass new vince album man fuck vince this shit is fucking shit cry baby fuck this nigga
The USAID money ran out.
