what do you think of the album?
>>130608063Don't give a flying fuck about this cunt.
>>130608063Latinx hag slop
>>130608063There’s already a thread for this. Learn how to use the catalog and don’t spam
>>130608084last post was 5 hours ago you faggot. It's a dead thread.
>>130608193much like her career.can't blame drake for this flopping, not close to the same audience.
I WANNA SEE OLIVIA’s RODRIGO
>>130608063It's fineJust like most other music that comes out nowIt's just FINEHonestly this is why modern mainstream music sucksNothing is good but nothing is bad either
>>130608311get those paid shills/streaming farms posts ready lil bro because this shit is gonna smash
>>130608084and what do you think of the album? idiot
>>130608357>Nothing is good but nothing is bad eitherThe album is good
Will never listen to it but I like it
1st song starts off sounding like Hem.Hopes are high ...and then at the chorus it becomes Swiftslop.:(any reason i should give the album a chance?
>>130608358>literally just released>best new musickek
I do not take Olivia Rodrigo or Sabrina Carpenter seriously because they're both Disney nepo babies and if you look at the credits they don't actually write the songs.>But they're credited on one or two songs with 20 other people!!Because it's the artist's album. That's how these hired songwriters make money. You want to get published on an album guaranteed to sell millions and get millions of plays? You give up 50% to the artist.
>>130608683there's only 1-3 people per song credited.
>>130608683Let's take a look at the first single:Drop Dead>Written by Olivia Rodrigo, Amy Allen, Dan NigroWho is Amy Allen?>She is credited with songwriting for artists including Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrina Carpenter, Harry Styles, Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Tate McRae, Halsey, Rosé, and Shawn Mendes, among others.[3]All "artists" that genuinely are not good and are also nepo Disney kids.Who is Dan Nigro?>Nigro has produced, written, and co-written songs for Sky Ferreira, Joe Jonas, Kylie Minogue, Caroline Polachek, Olivia Rodrigo, Chappell Roan, Dermot Kennedy, Reneé Rapp, Maisie Peters, Conan Gray, and Lorde.Again, other hack artists for the most part.The Cure>Written by Olivia Rodrigo, Dan NigroOut of 13 tracks only TWO (2) have a single credit for Rodrigo, Honey Bee and Begged.The way the music industry has worked for the last 15 years or more is that actual songwriters (Amy, Dan) write music/demos and then they pitch these to pop artists who might like to record them. It's usually also the same 3 song writers among the biggest pop stars including Beyonce and Taylor Swift among others.
>>130608750Amy Allen, Dan Nigro. Allen, Nigro? Al la negro?
>>130608750>Out of 13 tracks only TWO (2) have a single credit for Rodrigo, Honey Bee and Begged>Beggedfleetwood mac should get credit
>>130608750>Amy Alleni remember her from the a team
>>130608750>The way the music industry has worked for the last 15 years or more is that actual songwritersFor other artists yes but for people like Oivia she would make the demos and send it to Dan who would make the instrumentals and add a few changes, they then split the credits 50/50.If another writer is involved like Amy allen, then her and olivia would have a session together and come up with something from scratch and Dan would again do the instrumentals.
>>130608063With the BNM stamp, I am now forced to stand up and admit that she's elite.
>>130608063The result of poptimism being that we should take these 'artists' and 'their' music seriously tells me the whole thing was a mistake. This is not her album at all, this is an approximation of what actual talented artists and groups used to do before all the power shifted to corpofags and before literal fags in music journalism opened the floodgates on this shit
>>130608915See >>130609234Take a look at her album GUTS. Not a single track is solely credited to her. But Nigro is cowriter on literally every song. And you who else is there?Julia Michaels. Who is she?>In her songwriting career, Michaels has been credited on songs for Selena Gomez, Olivia Rodrigo, Demi Lovato, Ed Sheeran, Fifth Harmony, Shawn Mendes, Britney Spears, Justin Bieber, Gwen Stefani, Sabrina Carpenter, and Tate McRae, among others.Again, several "artists" and familiar names, nepo Disney babies again.Who else is on the album?Ian Eric Kirkpatrick.>He has produced and written music for many high-profile artists such as Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Dua Lipa, Jason Derulo, Justin Bieber, Katy Perry, Nick Jonas, Pitbull, Sabrina Carpenter, Selena Gomez, Shakira, and The Chainsmokers.[1][2]And Alexander Glantz.>he has worked with artists such as Olivia Rodrigo, John Mayer, Noah Kahan, Tate McRae, Charlie Puth, Laufey, Role Model, Reneé Rapp, Omar Apollo, Selena Gomez, Jeremy Zucker, Joji, Bella Kay, Kenny Beats, David Kushner, Addison Rae, Teezo Touchdown, Glaive and Megan Thee Stallion,Also Amy Allen is on ther album.
Let's go to her first album:Nigro on all tracks again except ONE.Alexander Glantz is on it, Jack Antonof>Antonoff has produced and co-written songs with other music acts such as Taylor Swift, Lorde, Lana Del Rey, St. Vincent, Pink, Florence and the Machine, Kendrick Lamar, Sabrina Carpenter, and Doja Cat.I'm telling you, almost none of the pop people you see on the internet or YouTube algorithm or commercials or special events, etc are all the same people. The record companies love Disney nepo babies because they already have an established fanbase of children when then grow with the child actor. When they hit their 20s now they're making albums. When they hit their mid 20s or 30s then suddenly the start showing up in TV shows or movies. Whatever child stars Disney has right now, I guarantee you many of them will SUDDENLY have some big high production album in their early 20s. Record labels love these people because it's 1 singer that they can manage and not an entire band with different ideas and interests. They don't need to write their own music because these people have a roster of producers they can just call out to. They don't need to know how to play music because someone else makes the music. There's no instruments to take during live performances. They don't work out? It's only one person you need to replace, no need to find a new drummer that knows all the songs, you just get new artificial pop star to take over.
>>130608063I love it and I think stupid song is beautiful
>>130608063Starts kinda weak but gets much stronger as it progresses and finishes with the best track.
>>130608063I don't.
I’m a fan of this album and I do really see the growth/evolution in her music specifically vocally.
>>130608713>>130608750If "Honeybee" and "Begged" are good or even the best, then that would prove she doesn't need the writers.
>BNMpoptimism is back on the menu, boys.what is pitchfork thinking with this? what's in it for them? will the industry guy in this thread let us know about o-rod's management and PR companies?
>>130613082spoiler alert: they're not
>>130613038>specifically vocallyThis was the most surprising thing to me, she used to sound really rough on some tracks and especially live but she really stepped up her game this time, her live performance of The Cure is awesome
>>130613571>she used to sound really rough on some tracks and especially liveSo true and it’s one of reasons I like her as an artist. She seems to actually work on the things she’s received criticism for. Her live arrangements of drop dead and the cure are so good and adjusted nicely for sounding clean while walking around on stage.
>>130613571>>130614005obvious bots
>>130610390Guts is entirely Rodrigo and Nigro except for 2 songs which has another person. Producers make the instrumentals which is part of the song so they will share writing credits. Before they would not because they made enough on production credits alone but that doesn't pay enough now due to streaming so they get writing credits now to make up for it. Making pop instruementals is hard due to all the layering and effects so it's not realsitistic to make an artist learn the ins-and-outs of a DAW when they can just hire someone else to do it.
>>130613082she needs someone to make the instrumentals and they get credits for that.
>>130614245Cry about it
It’s fucking awesome if you like 80s post punk and new wave it’s a must listen.
>>130614621I dunno, her songs are so childish to me.
>>130614245Seethe harder tayhag
>>130614602oh yeah that's not botted at all lol>>130614621>80s post punk and new wavegive me a break. sounds absolutely nothing like that>>130614763>tayhagnice try she's 100x worsethe PR team is here. just pointing out the obvious. not going to tell you what is giving you all away though.
>>130614770>bottedthe spin is on lel
>>130609234I get that /mu/ will die screaming before ever giving Olivia any credit for a good album because of the Disney connection, but this is pathetic.
>>130614770It literally has Robert smith on the album it’s clearly inspired by 80s alternative.
>>130614770>give me a break. sounds absolutely nothing like thatAnon you know that's not true so what's the endgame here
80s new wave with modern pop sensibilities? Sounds interesting!
>>130614818>>130614835an RS guest appearance 80s new wave does not make. you *really* think it sounds like 80s Cure or New Order or something? lol jfc, just be honest. i can't with y'all. enjoy the campaign.
>>130608063>pivots to some alt rock-y Paramore lite fake riot grrrl music>gains cred amongst 'serious music fans' and critics>immediately abandons the sound for more generic pop music slopfuck this idiot
>>130614621>>130614818>>130614835>>130614851>80s alternative>OMG Robert Smith!!>"Post-punk and New Wave"100% guarantee that all this shit is being copied verbatim from the album's one-sheet.
>>130614770Nobody gaf Taytroon. Go stream that bootycheeks Toy Story jingle again.
>>130615003you mean artists evolve and change their sound as they get older? wow this has never happened to anybody else before!
>>130614973Yes stupid you can even credit Dan Nigro if saying it about a girly pop album gives you the ick but denying it is asininehttps://youtu.be/lwiQSOaI_XEhttps://youtu.be/oOEGRpfitAghttps://youtu.be/nBv5BzFpvvEHere's some helping of 90's and 2000's alt rock toohttps://youtu.be/p-YnaSsGsPUhttps://youtu.be/UbbrZTfjkdkhttps://youtu.be/aSWBaZi7UYcYou retards can't keep calling the album unoriginal and pastiche but then turn around and claim there isn't any actual discernible inspiration of older music because zoomer girls listening to it makes you feel insecure
Pop drivel
>>130614770>>130615059does it sound nothing like it or is it copying it verbatim make up your minds
>>130615059>>130615088You have not listened to any of her new music have you?
>>130615097>does it sound nothing like it or is it copying it verbatimCopying a one-sheet is press material. That's not talking about the music itself. Two different things. >>130615101Not baiting me into repeat streams, sorry. Might work on others though.
>>130615101That doesn't matter. What am I going to listen to more show tunes?
>>130608063I liked it :)
>"her new album is totally inspired by new wave and 80s alt rock">look inside>it's pop songs about being in love
>>130615160>Genres Pop Rock, Singer-Songwriter New Wave, Post-Punk Revival, Big Music, Jangle PopJust because you don’t like the sound of it doesnt make it not those genres.
Now its stylized as 80s alterative rather than the pop punk flair from the past
>>130608063her first flop album. shame, I loved Guts and Sour
>>130615194How was school today?
>>130615194Why because she actually experimented with interesting genres?
Billie now Oliva saying there going to do one thing but it ends up just being POP music. Goes to show you how little control they have over anything and just let basically the same handlers do everything
>>130615194this mogs the fuck out of SOUR
>>130615250>but it ends up just being POP music.Do you unironically believe this sounds the same as the last Billie Eilish and Sabrina Carpenter albums?
>>130608080>23>hagYou will die alone weeb pedo
>>130615250Billie always did pop music, retard.
>>130608063>Single handedly saves rock n' rollHow does she do it bros?
>>130615160Maybe just listen to the last song and the one with Robert Smith to save yourself some time but that track sounds like it came off Neon Bible
Unbelievable this is even being discussed here. A completely artless, soulless product.
>>130615732Unc spotted
>>130608750>>130608683the performer and the songwriter used to be the rile before, idk why you fags get trigger by the fact that you can have multiple songwriters
what's this board's problem with pop music man
>>130615820Toxic elitist idiots.
>>130615755Dismissing soulless garbage is a good thing. Posting this in defense of this shit is a condemnation of this generation, not ripping on the uncs.
/mu/ niggas will unironically defend AI music but call an album with great production and actual lyricism soulless because it's pop and there's a girl on the cover
>>130615945No because you idiots are delusional seeing anything but bland Disney pop. Get some taste
>>130615945Old heads like Robert smith like it so it’s good enough for me
>>130615958>bland Disney popThis means nothing. What makes it "Disney"? Are all the critics praising it wrong/paid? What are some good pop music albums you enjoy and what makes them better? Hopefully something from this century and extra points if they're female artists since that's supposedly not the problem here
>>130615820>>130615856>>130615945tits or gtfo
>>130616018You can like disney pop but dont act like its anything otherwise. Its bland mall pop for 13 year old girls. Its fine if you like it
>>130616115Except good artists all love her music too. Your just an upset boomer since you don’t like popular thing.
>>130616115>no argumentclassic /mu/
Its just so manufactured and managed that I don't know how to take music from artists like this
>>130616160Why do you insult people and call them old for not liking your shitty bland music? Its fucking bland and boring and done a million times 20 years ago. Youre a dumb fuck moron that doesnt listen to any music and are fucking clueless. Dont talk to me about anything you parasite
>>130616181calm down unc
>>130616188Go rape your mother faggot
>>130616181Yet Shes earned the respect of several icons. She’s bringing a fresh take on new wave and post punk I respect the hell out of it.
>She’s bringing a fresh take on new wave and post punk
>get told Olivia is different and actually does interesting music>listen to her>its wpop girl#530983244fucking shills
>>130616229Its kiddie punk. Literally as bad as kids bop
>>130616312at some point you just gotta laugh at how easily these rubes get strung along
saw a clip on twitter with the talk box vocals on expectations which made me check out the album and yeah i kinda get the hype /mu/ is absolutely never gonna get it though lmao but good luck to the fans itt
>>130616417Just listen to Peter frampton then. Its basically watching your 5 year old daughter playing with a talk box. Except i dont give a shit who Olivia is.
Why does she sound exactly like Taylor swift? If I didn’t know any better I would think her songs were Taylor swift
>>130616669Has Taylor swift ever made post punk? Didn’t think so.
>>130616675wtf is “post-punk”?
>>130608358To think that this publication nearly 25 years ago gave Liz Phair's selling out album a 0.0 for being teen pop. Hipsters used to worship this rag.
>>130608063Its so funny to me that the best pop album in years is a pastiche of post punk and alt rock with a haggard old unc goth making a cameo appearance being a major selling point. Poptimism lost.
>>130616669If you want to go one for one Olivia’s first 3 albums blow Taylor’s out of the water.
>>13061668480s new wave but for pretentious hipsters
>>130616018>Are all the critics praising it wrong/paid?bandwagon effect
>>130616669Unironically because the people who write Taylor Swifts music are the same people writing Rodrigo's music.
>>130615282it's pushing it. only 2 years until 25
>>130616669Swift basically popularized the theme of relationship drama in writing so other younger artists took inspiration. Previous female artists had more variety in their song themes.
>>130617604I don't see max martin credits anywhere for olivia's albums.
>>130615003She was always trash. Good 4 U is the worst piece of shit I’ve ever heard.
>>130615169Hannah Montana era Miley Cyrus is “pop rock” too but nobody ever insinuates she belongs in the same conversation as Def Leppard or Motley Crue. Just because Hannah Montana era Miley Cyrus is now a brown zoomer doesn’t make that any less true.
>>130615194>I love when she plagiarized random 90s and 00s acts and turned it into watered down Disneyslop because her 11 year old fans would never know the difference18+ website.
>>130615282>Livie thinks it has any room to call anyone a pedoTOP FUCKING KEK
>>130616399Her entire catalog is just Hannah Montana with swear words. It’s beyond me how she has so many shills on /mu/. Other than the coomers who just want to fuck her and that one mentally ill gay Mexican.
>>130616669She’s still butthurt that she has to give away half her paycheck for one of her songs on her first slop album to Taylor Swift, so she does everything she possibly can to possibly replace her
>>130608063Drizzy won
>>130621104It's also dead obvious that there's a contingent in rock crit circles that want Olivia to replace Taylor as the figurehead of confessional diaristic pop, now that the latter has by all metrics peaked and secured her legacy with the Eras tour, just like they've been chasing the "new Dylan" since 1971.
Drizzy won
>>130608063aspic
>>130621146>>130621748>>130622088Many are saying this
>>130609234Paid reviews (like this one) always existed though
>>130614621But it sounds nothing like that. You shills are crazy.
>>130615169It's pop rock. Anyone who claims this album has any other genre than that needs new ears
6/10
>>130621061But anon, this album is also plagiarized random acts turned into watered down Disneyslop
>>130608063It's nauseatingly sentimental bubble gum music that sounds like a Broadway musical. Fuck you for inspiring me to listen to it.
>>130622790>It's nauseatingly sentimental bubble gum music that sounds like a Broadway musicalApt description of her first two turds, too
>>130622707you niggers could just call it watered down pastiche or 80's nostalgia or whatever but doubling down on "nuh-uh there's no new wave or synthpop in this" is really funnyhttps://youtu.be/nBv5BzFpvvEhttps://youtu.be/lwiQSOaI_XE
>>130622827By the way she broke up with the homo she dedicated this schmaltzy shitfest to months ago
>>130622088Drake............135,555,113,408Taylor.............126,224,661,085Kendrick...........55,942,657,388Olivia.................27,153,695,101
>>130622941KWAB
>>130622827>nuh-uh there's no new wave or synthpop in this"of those two tracks, the first one sounds more like electroclash from 2004 than anything else, if i'm being generous.the second one has the chorused new wave guitar in the intro but goes off the rails by 40 seconds and it just goes back to sounding like every other wpop hoe.>watered down pastiche or 80's nostalgiafine, but the people saying it IS a post-punk or new wave record are absolutely insane.
>disney child star is successful singerholy shit hell froze over this never happens!
>>130622941KEKHoly fuck how embarrassing. Getting mogged this hard by a Black dude named Aubrey.
>>130622968it's just getting so tiresome
>>130622985His three albums were boiled ass now leap off a cliff nigger.
>>130622941If this shows me anything (besides that Drizzy won), it’s that despite all the clear efforts, she’s not even remotely close to being Taylor Swift’s replacement. Her days of 2021-2022 level hype are effectively over.
>>130623031Taylor Swift's replacement is going to be another profoundly untalented privileged hack like a Gracie Abrams.
>>130623031>Her days of 2021-2022 level hype are effectively over.7th biggest female debut of all time (only behind 6 Taylor records) so unfortunately for the anons ITT this is just the beginning
>>130622968https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr0Wv5DJhukImagine if people listened to this song and worshipped it as the second coming of 90s Riot Grrrl punk, just because of the over-compressed guitar in the back. That is what this retarded mutt’s praise is equivalent to for me.
>>130623031She's not catching on with Gen Z, but legacy media will keep pushing her because she's their ideal "safe" pop girl.
>>130623056Spotify is a terrible metric for organic interest. They count streams after just 31 seconds and they count superfans who don’t even actually listen to it, just play it on loop. 36 million views for the music video on YouTube after two months is pathetic.
>>130623101>YouTubekekis that the only good metric for "organic interest" though, since streaming numbers and audience/critic scores don't matter? just keeping track for when those numbers come out eventually
>>130623158Don't forget her sold out tour doesn't matter either lol
>130623158>130623170Keep coping with that Streamflation, Pablo. You should leave, your toro africano is waiting for you, he’s getting impatient
>>130623158>>130623170Drizzy won
>>130623190i just want an answer unc
Skimmed through it while commuting. The Cure and the song with Robert Smith are the only ones I liked.
>>130623438>>130608063Drizzy won
>>130608063Jizzy cum
