>more influential than the electric guitar
negro instrument for producing post-African repetitions
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A FUCKING CASH REGISTER LMAO
>more optimized than the electric guitar!
>>130668260unironically yes
And look at him now...
>>130672463,,ka-ching''
>>130674622It's based actually.
Garbage. Sampling was the death of music.
>>130676709>t. metal fan
>>130668260a telephone?
>>130668260Are drum machines even worth getting now? I assume everything they do can be easily done on a free pirated software.
>>130671103fpbp
>>130677254Yeah the MPC is as good as ever, nice clicky buttons, no bullshit OS to update and etc.The old ones are getting to be crazy expensive.
So sampling is “art” but AI music isn’t?
>>130677669Exactly. Now you've started to understand.
>>130677669Yes. Though sampling AI music is an even truer art.
>>130676696It's a neat idea, I just don't think it's fully formed. The grid sounds nice in concept, but you can't play at a good pace due to chord shapes, and you can't play blind due to the surface design and lack of physical feedback, and axis travel is so small that it's hard to modulate.
>>130679198It's basically meant for guitarists as a better MIDI controller than a guitar controller. I'm sure with enough practice you could play blind though. I'm not personally interested in it (or MPE for the time being) so it's a wash but apparently certain people really like it and you can listen to some pretty interesting performances using it online. I think it's more popular with highbrow experimental musicians and academics than your average player.
>>130679242People jump through a lot of hoops to justify large purchases to themselves. I don't think the concept is terrible, it's just mostly suited to monophonic expression which is easier and more expressive with a breath controller, or pad "experimentation" which you can do on a touch screen for free. It's an instrument that's harder to play in tune than other fretless instruments, with poor velocity control.
>>130668260>more influentialFor black people who can't play real instruments
>>130676709Fuck off Caleb Maupin.
>>130671103
>>130679349$1000 is hardly a large purchase for a musician. I'm sure there are enough people who got tired of fiddling with touchscreens that this seemed like a good buy. There must be a market for 'em, they've cranked out a few thousand (going by some thread I read a year or two back).
>loot other people’s music by way of “sampling”>get your shit placed in the Smithsonian
>>130685962Is sampling really that bad? Many of the tones and sounds people sample on an MPC are "found sounds," or instruments, or synth sounds they just liked after making and wanted to "save" in a way which was easier to use. In that sense it's not any worse than a ROMpler or any other synth. The MPC is a full synthesizer, like other Akai samplers, it has ADSR and filters and the sample itself is put through the standard subtractive synthesis processes many other synths use, you can just choose your own.Back in the day I bought an Alesis QS 6.1 because of the ability to "burn" samples to a PCMCIA card and then use them as waves in programs, kind of like a sampler. I made my samples on the computer so it was actually not a problem. I still use this board today just because it has a great feel and nice controllers, it's my master control board. Its synthesis engine was actually designed by Dave Smith. Who was pro-sampling AND pro-analog.
>>130686991How is sampling functionally any different from AI?
>>130687012Are you joking? How can I even address such a stupid person except through insults?Subtractive synthesis starts with a waveform, often but not always digitally generated from a sample, and then you modify the tone with ADSR and filtering and perhaps different modulations and etc. just the same as in a ROMpler, but you have the freedom to load your own samples.AI generative music both creates the tones, but also the score, tempo, and other meta-information that isn't within the realm of where you get your oscillator or wave for a sample. It's not even clear to me HOW an AI generates a tone or wave or sample, nor is it to AI programmers. The whole thing is a black box that uses Markov chains.Aphex Twin used "AI" back in the day but it was more like genetic algorithms which are largely forgotten these days, to generate MIDI data that he then assigned custom made sounds for, after hand-tuning the MIDI. Yet people today say "Oh AI music is cool Aphex Twin used it you should like it ALL" like you. Shills I should say.You can get started with hand-made music for free now, has been the case for decades. But you won't. You want to let some computer generate some garbage based on already existing stuff and then claim "I-i made this..."It's pathetic. Delete your 4chan account.
>>130668260>influential Very much so, yes. >more than the guitar Absolutely not. Dead wrong, nigger.
>>130687456Nah the ELECTRIC guitar is a curiosity. It's mostly pedals, really, you can do that with an electric MIDI kalimba. I know, I bought one.
>>130685962>hip hop culture -- founded on a belief system of peace, love, and unityWell, that aged like milk.
>>130689037That community has never really had that. Not even in their homeland.
