Douglas Lilburn editionhttps://youtu.be/dg1W1T8_4aEThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>130655670
>Chopin's best Nocturne was his first one Anyone else peak with their first piece of a type
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPjBD54gGo4Scarlatti
>>130686618Brahms concertos
>>130686618What about Nocturne no 9?
>>130686642True
>>130686642False
>he calls himself a classical music fan>he doesn't play a classical instrument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAn-e4NMQ_MBiber
>>13068665232/1? Or op 9?
>>130686777Sorry I meant no 2 lol. It's not my fault, blame Chopin for naming them in such a whack ass way
>>130686798no 2 is obviously the most popular but not even better than 9/1. But still true as its first set he published. Dude around that time 1830~ peaked
>>130686843I didn't think 2 was more pouplar than 1 until they started using it constantly in shorts the past few years
>>130686724I play the keyboard (for PC video games)
Listen to Carlos Seixas
I fell asleep listening to a certain modern Ring the other day and I finally came to during Act 2 of Gotterdammerung and my immediate reaction was>Good lord, what is this awful singing, turn this OFFSo yeah maybe the singing in Rings have gotten worse over time
Listen to the Art of Fugue NOWhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yauXe71LHZI&list=OLAK5uy_ldbQuu2l6uueuBCYNLSrbLHoYNmjYUjcI&index=4
>>130687135
You either profess George Gershwin an abomination of a composer and jazz a plague upon the world ---- or you possess the intimate knowledge that the 'swing to bop' tradition is not diametrically opposed to art music, but rather a interlaced exploration of musical progress, both antique and modern. And we need not question where the old master's thoughts abide, for they have already spoke and they have spoke well.
>>130687248It's art music for black people.
>>130687248As far as Jazz goes, I can only stand Bill Evans, Monk, Kelly, and JP Johnson. I need idiosyncrasy in jazz because almost every bebop line in the 40s and 50s sounds the same, and what's the point in that?
>>130687258Medieval monks invented jazz. Bach,Mozart,Beethoven perfected it. Black people brought it back to fashion.
>>130687248Keith Jarrett is /classical/ approved
>>130687289https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zirvkdNGl4A&list=RDzirvkdNGl4A&start_radio=1Facts, listen to the swing in this piece
I like Mozart better than Bach, and you know else I like better than Bach? Zelenka, Biber, Couperin, Vivaldi, and Rameau, I think these guys are better than Bach.
Damn, Handel op. 3 isn't nearly as good as 6, huh?
>>130687248Kapustin did it better.
>>130687353i refuse to read a post with a school shooting pepe the frog so i will never know what you said
>>130687485>I like Mozart better than Bach, and you know else I like better than Bach? Zelenka, Biber, Couperin, Vivaldi, and Rameau, I think these guys are better than Bach.
>>130687529Thank you anon now I can read it
>>130687559you're welcome friend
Brahmshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCEWw0C-aZU&list=OLAK5uy_nu3tJ1NxFggODGnEpO7IooA4ly9CH1bQQ&index=1
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>>130687841The lack of Bach's name anywhere is probably the most offensive part
>>130687866It's in the Japanese writing
>>130687866>He can't read Japanese
Obsessed with this guy's music, damnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BZ5RKhFbkc
I'm almost done "learning" the major scales (being able to play 2 octaves in contrary and parallel motion at a decent speed) so now it's time for the minor scales. My question is should I learn the natural, melodic, and harmonic minors for a single key at once and then move onto the next key, or should I learn ALL the natural minors THEN the melodic minors and THEN the harmonic minors? Also what else should I be practicing besides scales? Are Hanon exercises a meme?
>>130688417organize your subsequent progress into the following levels:II - natural minor scalesIII - modes (Dorian, Mixolydian, Phrygian, and Lydian)IV - harmonic major scalesV - harmonic minor scalesVI - melodic minor scalesVII - flat 2 scales (e.g. C-Db-E-F-G-A-B)VIII - sharp 2 scales (e.g. C-D#-E-F-G-A-B)IX - chromatic scalesX - whole-tone scalesbeyond that you can follow whichever order you want.
>>130688250Our age sure does love that "there may or may not be a serial killer sitting behind you in the audience" type of sound.
>he calls himself a classical music fan>he can't sing
>tfw no Karajan recording of Handel's Messiahwhy livehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-5jw0ajuHY&list=OLAK5uy_nEnId0-ZLCSkgdsyxGPBFm_KzqAYr0m9g&index=21
>>130690088singing is gay.
>>130688417The only minor scale you should bother with is the harmonic one. In general, scales are not that useful of an exercise. You should ask yourself: do the pieces I play contain a lot of scales (e.g. like in Mozart)? If not, then why are you practicing them? Same for other kinds of exercises like arpeggios. Hanon and Czerny are really just busywork for people who want to "put in the hours." A competent teacher would only assign you exercises tailored to the specific technical difficulties in whatever pieces you are currently learning.
>>130688417
>>130688417Learn harmonic as it's the most important. Then you can practice natural (which is basically the same as major, starting on submediant). Melodic minor is used for ascending passages, whereas natural for descending passages, you can practice them that way or just understand the differences and not waste your time.In fact, learning scales is kind of a waste of time. You learn scales by playing pieces.
I've always liked Bruckner 5 but now it's finally starting to make complete sense
I've tried to listen to Respighi's Fountains & Pines on at least ~5 separate occasions and every time the music leaves no impression on me whatsoever. It's melifluous and nicely orchestrated, but completely faceless. Is there anything else by him I should try or is all of it like this?
>>130690785>is all of it like this?pretty much but it's pretty good stuff nonetheless. I hold similar views about Busoni's music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgX7RNZ6P08
>>130690785I wouldn't call it faceless since it's hardly indistinct. But he's similar to other masters of orchestration of that period, like Ravel or Holst for example, in having a relatively impersonal and self-consciously artificial style. I think his Three Botticelli suite has some of the best tone painting I've ever heard.https://youtu.be/v_FfBVcyphQ
Dear /classical/ friends, do you listen to classical music more in depth or in breadth? Meaning, do you focus intensely on a few composers and know their output really well, or do you try to listen as widely as possible across many different composers, periods, and styles?
>>130690989 From what I noticed, about half of /classical/ leans to the breadth, whereas the other half - including myself - lean towards the depth. For example I often analyze form (not too deeply, but many people here seem not to be interested at all) as well as study harmony, counterpoint and piano. As result, I'm more familiar with the output of few composers rather than all the different styles and genres.
>>130690902>But he's similar to other masters of orchestration of that period, like Ravel or Holst for example, in having a relatively impersonal and self-consciously artificial style.However one might describe Ravel's style, I just know that every one of his orchestral works is infinitely more captivating than what I've heard of Respighi is (I'll check out the Botticelli pictures). I would agree that Holst's impersonal, at least to my ear, though again I find his works more intriguing (e.g. Beni Mora and the Japanese Suite).>>130690883Listening to it rn, pretty nice so far, it seems to hold my attention better.
>>130690989Prior to ~8 months ago, it was breadth. Since then, I've changed to depth. I've changed to the "only a few composers are really worth listening to on a daily basis" camp. At least for now.
phew, I almost starting listening to and posted a recording here before I noticed the album cover said "fortepiano" and I immediately backed out. Bullet dodged!
>>130691189It's crazy how vigilant you have to be these days.
Beethovenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU01RASHyRc&list=OLAK5uy_lSf7yFXPx-SqasWcffj8ZqWMQYvoPLCuk&index=31
>>130690152neat.
*ahem*TRIIIIIIISTAAAANhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XFMonrmY_w&list=OLAK5uy_m-R4Nsv6BeYRKfb4sFSxPTgDtaOaikN3g&index=13
note to self: hiss recordings are not great for falling asleep to, because while with high volume the mono, historical audio quality is significantly neutralized, at low volumes, like one does when trying to sleep, you end up getting just a mass of difficult-to-decipher fuzz.but now that I'm awake and up,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-PdrZfqqEA&list=OLAK5uy_lS4atw9ssnghLeZxKW2qL_I_PsU_Mbqc0&index=39
>>130691118>>130691157Which ones?
Awful. Just awful.
>>130692358For me (>>130691118), top candidates would probably be Chopin, Mahler and Rachmaninoff.
I unironically enjoy Clara's stuff more than Robert's. Her piano concerto is better than he ever did. Except for the stuff she ghost wrote for him.
>>130693090Many classical music enthusiasts would agree with you but are too afraid of going against the grain to come out and say it, so thank you for having the courage.
>>130693090Many classical music enthusiasts would disagree with you but are too afraid of conforming to social norms to come out and say it, so damn you for being so shameless.
>>130693090>>130693110Robert is absolutely GOATed so can't agree, although Clara is nice.
>>130692599Yeah, it's not for me either. If I want Beethoven in that style, which isn't often, I much prefer Blomstedt/Gewandhaus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j1x9t2mCg8&list=OLAK5uy_kaqFqUByp_CNFNtepboUe6DTxa0p0yztI&index=21
Cannot for the life of me imagine listening to more than 2, maybe 3 recordings of the same works. Why would I listen to 10 cycles of Beethoven sonatas/symphonies or Chopin preludes or whatever? Seems like a colossal waste of time.
>>130694155So after you've listened to your three cycles of Beethoven sonatas you just never listen to them again?
>>130694155It's fun if it's pieces you love so much you listen to them dozens of times
>>130694155Someone literally told me this last time I was on furcon, wtf... a-anon?
>>130694213Why would I? I've already picked the 2 or 3 best ones.
>>130694929Impossible to know that. I've known Mozart's sonatas for years but I recently enjoyed them significantly more than ever before because of a recording I hadn't tried before.
>>130694929Nonsensical reply.
>>130694155I mean, why not try something different? Helps keep the work fresh.
>>130695879>>>130694155>I mean, why not try something different?Exactly that's what I say. Listen to something different, rather than the same thing you've already heard but with someone different pressing the keys and is 99% identical to every other version
>>130695905There's not a whole lot of good music out there unfortunately.
>>130694155I don't usually but I did sort of a few nights ago. I skimmed through a few different versions of Bach Italien concerto maybe 4 or 5 because I wanted to see if Glen Gould's version was the best. It is by the way. No one else plays it as well as he does
>>130695905The best pieces and the best composers are just that good. I've listened to many obscure 20th century composers one time. I still return to Beethoven and Bach and Brahms and Schumann and Chopin.
>>130695918How do you know? There's probably thousands, ten of thousand maybe more, just of classical music. There's no way you or any one person has listened to even a substantial fraction of all of it
>>130695927*teleports behind you*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0F8kB5CkMI&list=OLAK5uy_k12TytFMXD-w4iQgZ2jTE2RTY-uwzHKmo&index=6
How do you guys listen to classical typically?-youtube-spotify-CDs/vinyl-file sharingone thing I've noticed is classical CDs are dirt cheap, vinyl too. Even though I could just listen to everything for free, I don't mind buying stuff sometimes
>>130695945>thousands of classical musiclmao. Anyway, you can actually listen to a substantial fraction of classical music because it takes only a few pieces to gauge a composer's mastery of the craft.
>>130696009Youtube mostly, sometimes file sharing.
There's no way to describe Dvorak's 9th other than as "eminently listenable". It's just such a wonderfully melifluous work, every part of it flows beatifully and it's exciting throughout (e.g. I zone out during Symphonie Fantastisque's slow, tediously pastoral movement, but not during Dvorak's). I've heard the 8th once live and although I wasn't (and still am not) familiar with the work, I had a similar experience. Guess I need to hear the 7th too.
>>130696023Are you just trying to argue for the sake of arguing?
>>130695953there you go, another one that's not as good as Glen Gould's
>>130694155Autists maybe? I much prefer to explore the vast soundscape of 21th century music than being stuck with the same stuff and thinking different interpretations are that much of a novelty...
>>130696243;o -> >:(
finna demand in my will that all 32 of Beethoven's piano sonatas must be played at my funeral and no one is allowed to leave until they're all complete
>>130686547Heard Bach's Cello Suites 1, 3, and 6 today, played by Eliot Fisk (he did the transcription). I'm going to say it's worth a listen for the fans of Cello Suites. The lack of bow of course limits how close we can get to the original version, but overall I loved the warmer tone of a guitar. Looked very hard to play, not that I heard many pieces for classical guitar but still (my faves: Concierto de Aranjuez, Giuliani Guitar Concertos).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UiZDPcSOpM&list=OLAK5uy_ldZ6Engw7x0k0WJwiOtdN4gyscXME8pLM
>>130696009Preferably live.
Listen to Rameauhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dEb8uwmEGY&list=RD_dEb8uwmEGY&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP--PEVKi88&list=RDEP--PEVKi88&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UojNHikY8s&list=RD4UojNHikY8s&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-QzU9EZUXE&list=RDu-QzU9EZUXE&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJfd9CuE7MU&list=RDlJfd9CuE7MU&start_radio=1
>>130690095It would be dogshit like all of Karajan's choral recordings.
>>130697678considering it will take about eleven hours that's feasible if you play them as continuous background music to the eulogy, burial, and wake services.
>>13069837222 hours played at Wim Winters' correct speed
only at the Wim Winter's live cremation service.
>>130698443meant for: >>130698404
>>130698287Homie is pimping at the smaller sub three minute pieces but the 10 minute piece sucked, I turned it off three minutes in
>>130698443While he's still alive, hopefully.
>>130692599The overall tempi are good and the antiphonal effects are crystal clear, but yeah there's not much else I like about it.>>130693575Meh. At least Chailly's has an aggressive nervousness about it that lends it some balls. Blomstedt's cycle sounds like an old man running through the motions. Too plain jane. If you want to hear Beethoven at the metronome maekings but without cucked modern phrasing and thin orchestral sound, Scherchen, Leibowitz, Gielen, and occasionally Toscanini are much better options.
now playingstart of Gernsheim: Violin Concerto No. 1 in D Major, Op. 42https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MplCL2fwzvY&list=OLAK5uy_kBfl76TeJ2F5W3YhgvX2PUe3QojdhEXiQ&index=2Gernsheim: Fantasiestück in D Major, Op. 33https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2KggtapT5k&list=OLAK5uy_kBfl76TeJ2F5W3YhgvX2PUe3QojdhEXiQ&index=5start of Gernsheim: Violin Concerto No. 2 in F Major, Op. 86https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yI36qyigB8&list=OLAK5uy_kBfl76TeJ2F5W3YhgvX2PUe3QojdhEXiQ&index=5https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kBfl76TeJ2F5W3YhgvX2PUe3QojdhEXiQ>The rediscovery of the works of German composer Friedrich Gernsheim continues with this collection, the third from CPO focusing on his considerable output which spotlights his violin concertos featuring the noted chamber violinist Linus Roth with the Hamburg Symphony conducted by Johannes Zurl. Gersheim's long life improbably encompassed meeting Liszt, Brahms and Saint-Saëns and extended into World War I when he spent the last years of his life in Berlin. Due to his Jewish ancestry, Gernsheim's music was effectively banned and removed from German music libraries during WWII further burying legacy, a slight that is being slowly corrected with releases such as this. Gernsheim's unique contribution is the sustained beauty and expressiveness of his melodies, informed by the Brahms and Schumann influences yet wholly his own.
>>130698532A lot concertos seem kind of pointless to me-they continuously go nowhere
>>130698458Bruh, the chamber concerts are poppin and Rameau stand on business in those suites tf you talking about?
I got a playlist of 20 different Ring cycles that I have playing through endlessly 24/7, even when I'm asleep or not home.
>>130698532>Gernsheim>Roth
>>130698664>nooticers when german jews have german surnames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3pLey3xQ48&list=RDB3pLey3xQ48&start_radio=1Nothing from Bach swung like this, Zelenka is God.
Fuck this fat motherfucker. If he spent more time understanding the timbre of the instruments during his time rather than speedrunning to 1000 BWV numbers, then his compositions wouldn't sound like a typewriter mixed with chicken pecking at the ground in the most uninteresting motoric rhythm imaginable.Messiaen was right, Bach was a square, Mozart was a circle.
>>130698774Bach had a couple of hits, Mozart was the real boring guy. Every piece sounds identical and equally uninteresting
>>130698774I will find your IP address and dissolve your corpse in hydrochloric acid.
Bacewiczhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE9gtm4AVm0&list=OLAK5uy_mQOQAb_HyXUE0zO3ygyZIbxZ1vO_85BQQ&index=1warning: modernist slop
>>130698816I don't think you can say that
>>130698816Post your address so I can fuck your ass>>130698824Let him stand on business
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>>130698791>>130698774you guys cannot listen to a melody longer than four bars without naturally splitting it up mentally and it shows
>>130698728There's nothing rhythmically interesting here. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>130695879Personally, I'd prefer to just go through a relatively unappreciated composer from any period than listen to 20 slightly different recordings of Chopin's preludes. But that's just me.
>>130695939But that's not what my question was originally about. It's not about whether you prefer some obscure composer to Bach or Beethoven. I certainly don't. I just don't see any value in listening to a million different recordings of the same work.
>>130700532>>130700560Again, it's not "ugh I wish I had more time but I need to finish listening to 100 different recordings of Chopin's Preludes first", it's "man, Chopin's Preludes are so good, I feel like listening to them again today, I might as well try a different recording this time", you feel me?
>>130700591NTA but I don't feel you, no. When you tried around 10 recordings and you notice that only one or two are worthwhile (especially if both by performers you know and respect) and the rest don't even give you pleasure, why bother with 10 more? What's the point? It's like trying to find a treasure in a landfill. There's always a chance, and I'm sure you'd like to find it, so why aren't you at the landfill?
>>130700666>What's the point?The same reason I don't eat sushi everyday for every meal.
>>130700678lack of money?
>>130700687Variety in texture, taste, color, and emotion.
>>130700702sushi provides that.
>>130700783Even if I went that route, I wouldn't eat the same fish or roll every time either.
>>130700678>>130700786There are 24 TYPES of sushi and you want MORE? Maybe you're just not feeling the taste of those 24 types, that's why.
>>130701037...I'm saying I don't eat the same type over and over, like I don't listen to solely one recording of a masterpiece over and over.
>>130701080And I'm saying there are 24 types in the container already.
>>130700591No. Seems like a waste of time.
https://youtube.com/shorts/GyICiC4FczE?si=x2sjlTR6WY9WG6gaIs he right?
>>130701100...I'm going to lie back down.>>130701124The greatest pieces in classical already warrant dozens and dozens of listens each. You're not wasting any time because you're already going to listen to the piece. Now, if you think, say, Chopin's Preludes or Beethoven's piano sonatas or Brahms' 4th Symphony are only worth a couple listens, then I can't help you.
>>130701100>>130701124Out of curiosity, what are the last couple pieces you listened to recently?
>>130701132holy cope.
>>130701177What kind of question is that? Grieg concerto and Janacek In The Mists.Now you: why does this matter
>>130701205I was just curious, is all. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?
Lastly, it's not just about finding the performance that works best for you and calling it a day. Alternative interpretations also are about revealing new ideas and details about the music itself.
Toveyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oey6cfrJ4_k
>>130701218Curiousity is often explained by something other than just mere instinct. I'm asking why are you curious
>>130701356I was curious about what someone who shuns the standard repertoire listens to.
>>130701435 Okay nevermind, I get the confusion. You're talking to 3+ posters. Not sure why you didn't reply to >>130694155 instead of >>130701100Even then, I don't think they shunned the standard repertoire.
>>130701177In the last 24 hours, I've listened to Boccherini String Quintets Op. 25, Janaček's String Quartet No. 2, Schubert's String Quintet, Scriabin Preludes Op. 11, and Brahms's German Requiem.
once again, it's pronounced jannykekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TNeUJYiAoo
I'm absolutely enchanted by Tiegerman's Scherzo no.1. I've never felt so touched by this piece.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeDsF3qitM0
>>130701607faggot.
>>130701629Weird reply. Are you projecting your repressed homosexuality?
Lohengrin morninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVTMhcM8l5o&list=OLAK5uy_mFrJv9EJcOV98Cp02JUMdaM8vn8b4vshg&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb6ut1qRRa4Dein Kuss allein soll dieses Schweeeiiigen lööööseeeen...
is your boy(or girl, if you're into that sort of thing)friend into classical too and if not, what's the dynamic between you
>>130702345kill yourself.
>>130702345I don't have a boyfriend or a girlfriend. But if I had, they would be open minded enough to enjoy at least some classical.
>>130702345Annoyance when I wanna listen to classical at home, and occasionally having to compromise.
Schuberthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3CB2N1QjH8&list=OLAK5uy_m4dLHRPXCYgJmlJq_uAMrNHgv_ywhMZoI&index=55A set that belongs in every classical fan's library.
>>130700504Give me a baroque piece drives the same way that piece does in the first 15 seconds
>>130686547/classical/ - I promise to give a good listen to the next three pieces suggested in replies. Please be reasonable on length. Let's say up to one hour. Will write my impressions. I like strings the most.
>>130690134Douglas Lilburn was gay
>>130703657OK I'll resist the urge to make all 3 recommendations myselfHandel - opus 6 no. 12 in b minorI recommend the recordings by Marriner with St. Martin Academy in the Fields, Antonini, and Manze with the Academy of Ancient music
>>130703657Bela Bartok Piano Concerto No. 2
Good recording of Songs without words? One that's not the Barenboim one.
>>130703550Easy. Contrapunctus II.
>>130703998Please censor m*at, it's offensive. Delete this post and I'll give recs.
>>130704050>Low T vegetarian I don't want your opinion then.I'll listen to Perhias while I wait for actual men to provide.
>>130704229>actual men to provide.As you wish, my lady.For the record, this is a vegan general.
>>130704229Actual men don't listen to little victorian prissy boy Mendelssohn.
>>130704252>vegan generalI don't remember having seen that trans anime character in a while. I thought we moved on from being low T. >>130704321>t. nazi
Haven't been here in a few years but just dropped in to say that Schubert is underrated
>>130704660Everyone knows his late stuff is great but they don't realize how much good stuff came out of his early and middle periodshttps://youtu.be/gn9zIhfXAAg
>>130704660>underratedWe don't use this word here.But yes, Schubert is GOATed.
>>130704660True and based.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZYiZdPMqkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INjDucEUFOwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD-Qn8xvmD0
Haven't been here in a few years but just dropped in to say that Wagner is underrated
>>130705213Cringe and bluepilled.
>>130700380What are you even saying?
>>130700678>>130700678>>130700702But you do eat sushi every day, you listen to the same piece of music over and over again
>>130701132>>130701182Zappa being incredibly based
I've been really enjoying picrel lately -- Flos Campi and the Mystical Songs especially (despite not being a lover of vocal music). Any similar recs?
>>130705317sometimes
This whole time I thought Boulez was pronounced "bully" but it's actually Boo-lez, as in "Can you please boo less, I'm trying to play some 12 tone music"
>>130705468....
>got my whiskey>got my comfy couch>got my des prez and wagner
>>130704040Not even as exciting nor as fun as the piece I just posted.Bach takes the L on this one.
>>130705556he's called josquin
Okay, they weren't kidding about this cycle. Excellent Mendelssohn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK7FqisavxU&list=RDbK7FqisavxU&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA2j4GykAl4&list=RDlA2j4GykAl4&start_radio=1I kneel
>>130705674Have they ever kidded about a cycle?
>>130705468kek
Frank Zappa plays the music of Francesco Zappa
>>130705637>basic bitch pattern in common time >better than one of the most dense contrapuntal tapestries of interlocking dotted rhythms and revolutionary use of syncopation which literally made it a precursor to jazz swingAbsolutely retarded. BABIIA once again outted as a total and utter fool who understands no rhythm or any subject at all relevant to this general. Makes me wonder what the fuck he's even doing here kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG_wAVjZhOo&list=PL1n9WCjA7Kz470YaPTmO8B4viKxWKyrwU
>>better than one of the most dense contrapuntal tapestries of interlocking dotted rhythms and revolutionary use of syncopation which literally made it a precursor to heckin jazz swing!!!!
>>130705874Nice selfie, maybe post it on >>>/soc/ instead?
There's a special prize if you can pronounce this'Ballad of Revolt' 'Kjempeviseslåtten' by H. Sæverudhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En9zhMtse3g&list=RDEn9zhMtse3g&start_radio=1
>>130705880>NO U
>>130705935Thank you selfieslop sister
>>130705847Ddoesn't the BABIAA anon worship Bach? He wouldn't hate on him Like I'm ironically doing right now.And I'm pretty sure those are someone else's words rather yours you dilletante, you probably don't even play an instrument nor do you read academic research on any of these subjects. The first 20 seconds of the Zelenka piece was a closer swing feel than Bach's autistic shuffle in Contrapunctus II.
>a steady stream of eighth notes is swinglmayo
>>130703830This one:https://open.spotify.com/album/1k9sPC6pDSBSVDzuYByXfxright? I liked it but I'll be honest - not very distinguishable from many other baroque pieces.>>130703889Bela Bartok Piano Concerto No. 3 is my favorite piano concerto. Let's try his second one. Abbado. Two and a half minutes later. Sorry, got a headache. Honestly, head has been bothering me for a large part of the day. Will listen tomorrow morning on a fresh head.https://open.spotify.com/album/05kfhc38bm6Xw9YyDn0Aeo
>>130705298different recordings tho!
>>130698774>then his compositions wouldn't sound like a typewriter mixed with chicken pecking at the ground in the most uninteresting motoric rhythm imaginable.
>>130705664the cool kids use the last name
Machaut to Mozart, it's the only way, then Debussy and After
>>130705880>>130705969you wont ever be on his level
post some good beethoven for fuck's sake
>eighth notesthey're called quavers
>>130707183https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCTfE3dQ2kQ&list=OLAK5uy_nj0LWX6kPecGj-45aKyGmoeGi8FySEts0&index=29
>>130707327thank you
>>130707327Always hated this one it always makes me sick for some reason
