what really happened here? was ethan a evil rapist, or was alice butthurt CC went on successfully without her so sue crashed out?
Mostly Kath was abusive, manipulative, and controlling, but he was also the real talent in the band.
all men are rapists
>>130715241This. People listened for him, not Alices stupid screeching. She honestly dragged the band down. Should be thankful he gave her a career but he's also a shitty jeet so whatever.
There is literally nothing wrong with grooming a 15 year old street rat. If Ethan hadn't made her a succesful indie star she would have ended up a beggar and OD'd on heroin in some shithole Ontario town. Even holding her over the railing of a fire escape is kind of funny I forgive Ethan for that.
>>130715307True. She probably would have been dead by now.
>>130715296I love her screeching I think it really makes the band. I think her lyrics are pretty good too. Obviously she's nothing without Kath but I think it's bullshit that she was a meaningless addition to the band
>>130715228Women can leave a man at any time they want. The relationship and treatment is implicitly consensual.
she left the band and thought she was better and above it all, then when claudio continued with another singer and the album and tour were massively successful alice went crazy and autistically sperged out HE ABUSED ME. thats what happened. she couldnt accept she fucked up and CC could continue on without her so she cried a woe is me sob story
They're both guys aren't they?
>>130715228their second album is pretty sick. Vietnam and at least other two songs from that album will stick with me till I die.
>>130715693Yes this is true.
