>"I remember when [the first Black Sabbath] album came out," Iommi recalled, "And every single review of it without exception was negative. We were slammed so hard that for a moment I was completely baffled and couldn't understand what we did wrong. As the weeks went by and the album started climbing up the charts, I felt a huge sigh of relief. After that we never read a review or paid attention to what critics said ever again."
>Hey, check this new album>hmmm, how is it?>the very same old psychedelic blues riffs, but heavier.>oof>???>I've said OOFI can understand critics.
Sabbath's sound was based on precise, sharp riffs which was rather out-of-place compared to what critics tended to favor which was an overpowering wall of amelodic noise ala the Stooges.
>>130734028Yet despite all of this Sabbath are more evergreen and aged way better than most of what was popular back than. Let that sink in.
>>130734881idk, "Gimme Shelter" remains the perfect summer afternoon thunderstorm song.
>>130734860i know. Cuckgau has always been in love with that idea that rock should be a giant sheet of noise that envelops you and precisely aimed metal riffs are the wrong way to go about it.
The fact that all these rags like rolling stone rate Sabbath highly now, years later when it's safe to do so, but at the time hated them proves that critics are the lowest form of life.They also completely ignore a lot of other music that was popular at the time. No one's supposed to like 70s Elvis or Sinatra albums for example because it's considered uncool but loads of artists like that were still massively popular at the time.
>>130735033Both of them were pretty washed in the 70s. Elvis had one great comeback year in '69 and everything after that was an anticlimax.
>>130734028If critics knew what good music sounded like they wouldn't be critics, they'd be musicians.
>>130734979This is the single most retarded thing I've aver read
Black Sabbath are better than whatever band you like
>>130735033Rolling Stone picked Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin as losers, and picked the New York Dolls and Todd Rungren as winners. Critics are idiots.
>>130735033Why did hard rock/early metal specifically piss off Rolling Stone so much at the time? They trashed Zeppelin, Purple and Sabbath with the most egregious one being one of their reviewers saying about Uriah Heep's first album "If this group finds any measure of success, I'm going to kill myself"
>>130735129those bands like the Dolls were more about the fashions and the scene than the music. critics and other cool, connected people would go to their shows and hi-five each other.
>>130734860Critics didn't like the Stooges either at first.
>>130735140RSM were very big into the politics of the counterculture era and bands they perceived as not being sufficiently part and parcel of that didn't get their approval.
>>130735171The debut was a little flat and didn't have Fun House's sheer power.
>>130735173also NYC and San Fran were the cities where most rock journalism was based and of course they would always play up those scenes and snub anything not from there.
Black Sabbath are my favorite band so I'm probably a little biased. To me, they are the only dad rock band I ever really liked. They were already hasbeens when I got into them, and I'm pissed I never got to see them with Ozzy (I was like 10 years old when he left Sabbath)The only other bands from that era I like? UFO, Budgie, Uriah Heep, and Deep Purple. I really tried to get into Zeppelin when I was a kid, but it just didn't do anything for me. Only a few songs.
>>130735033There's one particular critic who spent decades shitting on Moroder, and then immediately switched to sucking his cock after Daft Punk made him "cool".>>130735033>critics are the lowest form of lifeAmen
>>130735229>I really tried to get into Zeppelin when I was a kid, but it just didn't do anything for me. Only a few songsAll of their albums have at least 2 good cuts but I personally like LZII above all the others.
>>130735201Unless it was Dave Marsh the ultimate Detroit homer. Also he's a worse asshole than Cuckgau if that could be possible and has very very constrained tastes.
>>130735186I think it was also that the "proto-punk" boom came later, in early seventies with NY Dolls and similar bands, and the Nuggets compilation. Only then the critics started to appreciate "dumb" and raw rock'n'roll. - Because it became hip to do so :D
>>130735173later on in the 70s when the protest era was done rock got taken over by bands like Aerosmith, KISS, Foghat, Ted Nugent who were just entertainment for suburban teens and had no politics or message beyond being a rock star, and critics really hated those bands. granted, nothing wrong with it since people needed a break and turn their minds off for a while after the turbulent years of the 60s, but of course these guys were generally very liberal and very political and thought music that wasn't about fighting the Man was a cheat and not worth discussing. They glommed onto punk because it was notionally more political.
>>130735352>thought music that wasn't about fighting the Man was a cheat and not worth discussing.because most critics are losers with nothing going for them and such people typically rally under political ideologies so they can feel some sense of fucking utility in their empty lives, the type of people that get bullied and absolutely deserve it
>>130735352I guess for RSM that was true, Cuckgau could at least sometimes appreciate stupid music and didn't always like political stuff.
>>130735470Jan Wenner always had a super-narrow idea of music, specifically a white guy rock star singing protest music. Anything outside that was disavowed by RSM.
>>130735129>Todd RungrenA WIZARD, A TRUE STAR runs fucking circles around that 70s hard rock crap lol.
>>130734028He's a fucking god as far as I'm concenred.Love everything with Ozzy on it.
>>130734860>Sabbath's sound was based on precise, sharp riffsThat may be true but I never associated them with that. On the first album it's mainly the "funky"/soul/pre-stoner drums that manage to keep it all together
>>130734860they arent precise, sharp - theyre melodic and memorable. you can literally sing every sabbath song, the guitar licks and the solos.>>130735033dumb cunt sabbath has aways been great and has been 'safe' to lijke for decades] fuck is your problem?
>>130735201holy christ shut the fuck up
>>130739590based drum observer
>>130735575>>130735352>>130735173yeah, my reading of way too many old Rolling Stone mag's was their general editorial stance was opposing any band (especially good ones who could siphon away da yoof) not openly down with the New Left program.And then they really glommed onto punk as the supposed new vanguard against The Man and as proof they weren't just stuck in 60's politics.
