>>130734180he's right desu. morrissey IS the smiths. marr is the texture
It's insane and performative to pretend Morrissey didn't make The Smiths and isn't far more talented than Johnny Marr
>>130734198>>130734240Get a life, Moz
>>130734196This is fair. He doesn't totally discount Marr, since he says the snarky comment about "without Morrissey they're just Haircut 100" is too far, but he also doesn't have time for these poseurs who pretend that Marr played a bigger role in the band than him when he was clearly the lead, right down to the aesthetic choices
>>130734180>>130734196>>130734211
I fucking hate The Smiths and it is inarguable that the band can in any way be divided from Morrissey. It's straight up retarded to think so.
>>130734276too bad he has to be so pompous
he ate and left no crumbs
>>130734318He's pompous but he's not wrong. Morrissey is The Smiths.
>>130734276haircut 100 lol, jesus i havent heard that name in years. theyre not really smiths sounding, they were kinda like english beat housemartins were closer to the smiths
>>130734264Get a successful solo career, Marr
>>130734304This
I wish this was real but I've been tricked once before with his hate list from last week, this is fake
The rampant and decades long Moz derrangement syndrome needs to be addressed
>>130734528Nah, this one is 100% him. The writing style has his insufferable faggotry stamped all over it.Marr wouldn't fuck him 40 years ago, and he's still mad about it. Constantly posting on his website, accusing Marr of stealing money from him, stealing the bands legal trademarks (he had to recant that one), blaming Marr for him not being able to make any money, claiming Marr was plotting against him and all sorts of mad Britney Spears level paranoid world salad conspiracies.I hate this band except for Andy Roruke who was a fucking insane bassist... but I've never seen Marr be anything other than complimentary about Morrissey whenever he's interviewed.He said in an interview with Paul Morley for the Guardian a few years ago that watching Morrissey in the studio laying down the vocal for I Know It's Over was one of the most sublime moments of his life and was so beautifully done it moved him to tears.Morrissey is just a bitter old cat lady who can't handle the fact its not 1984 anymore and he's fat, ugly and old and not famous anymore.Marr just sold out a 10k stadium venue in London and has a new album coming out, so Morrissey is seething because his own new album just flopped. Typical gay queen behaviour.
>>130734211"...Hence their Romantic possession"This bit is interesting.Is he claiming Marr is in love with him? Lol. Sounds like projection.
>>130734240>far more talented than Johnny MarrIt's apples and oranges as far as their own roles and skills go, but they complimented each other perfectly and the Smiths would not have been what they were with just one or the other. Marr's guitar and Morrissey's lyrics and vocals are inseparable in that formula. I like the Smiths a lot but I never had any stake in their feud or Moz's cult of personality, so arguing over who was more talented or important has always seemed ridiculous to me. The constant Moz bait threads are so annoying.
Will these faggots ever stop beefing
>>130734180Johnny Marr is my all time favorite guitarist. That being said Morrissey was the real force behind the band. No one would hare cared about the Smiths without Moz. They just would have been another 80s British Jangle pop band (there were literally like a million of them) look at what Marr has done without Moz? subpar britpop, and indielandfill shit 20 years too late.
>>130734180For once it's not about cancelling a performance because he stubbed his toe
He's based. Also I notice a lot of his records are in the used bins lately, some people are just like "ugh I can't even" but they will turn around and say "It's about the art not the artist" when they like somebody's politics or other views.
I listen to The Smiths for Marr's god level guitar work. I don't give a fuck about Morrissey singing about fat girls and gay sex.
DEATH TO MARR AND MARRFAGSLOVE LIVE MORRISSEY!!
MARR IS USELESS WITHOUT MOZZAHE NEVER WENT ON DO ANYTHING DECENT AFTER THE SMITHS. N-O-T-H-I-N-G NOT A SINGLE DECENT SONG AFTER THE SMITHSMOZZA USED MARR LIKE A TOOL. HE TOLD HIM WHAT TO PLAY AND HOW TO PLAY IT. JOHNNY MARR WAS MORRISSEYS INSTRUMENTHE'S NOTHING WITHOUT MOZZA
johnny marr's peak without morrissey is modest mouse dashboard...uh
JOHNNY MARR WITHOUT MORRISSEY IS SO MUCH BETTER!!!MOZZA THE GAYHOMOFAG WAS HOLDING HIM BACK!!!I AM A MARRFAG AND THIS IS BETTER THAN THE SMITHS MOZZA IS JUST A RACIST FAGGOT, I AM PAKISTANI AND I LOVE JOHNNY MARR BECAUSE HE IS WHOLESOME AND ANTI-RACIST WHITE KEK DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER https://youtu.be/XXKpQG0uu48?si=WUDXy0xAMkXufkD7
>>130736158kek
>>130734211morrissey wanted to do at least 4 more smiths albums? hmmm...
>>130734318Yeah, it's pretty sad how pompous Marr is, but I guess it's to hide how bitter he is that everyone knows Moz hard-carried his ass to any shred of a career he has.
Moz and Kanye need to do an album together, the two geniuses with the most seething delusional haters.
Every time I hear about this guy he is just crying about something
>>130736170>Also I notice a lot of his records are in the used bins latelydo a lot of in-store used album shopping, do ye?
>>130734180If you read between the lines, Morrissey is tacitly admitting that not only was the actual music not composed by him outside of his own singing, but the band itself was supposedly never quite his either.
>>130734198That's not actually what he's saying. You are uncritical and lack reading comprehension.He's saying a great deal of The Smiths is because of him. However, he knows well not to overstep in claiming that the band was entirely nothing without him.Make "This Charming Man" vocal-less, and you still have a generational masterpiece—a masterpiece that by his own admission in the OP, he otherwise takes no responsibility for.
>>130737510>Morrissey is tacitly admitting that not only was the actual music not composed by himHe has never claimed this. The music is always provided by his band members (in the Smiths it was Marr) and he writes lyrics over it.
>>130734196Translation:>"I pretty much never composed anything, but the others did nothing but compose.">"I believe Johnny Marr is behind a massive smear camapign against me, but I have no agenda but to expose this conspiracy; I cannot, however, offer any explanation as to why he would go to such great lengths to ruin my reputation. I shall admit of no wrongdoing on my part; I shall claim his alleged rampage is fueled entirely by an unjustified contempt for me. Surely that makes sense to you.">"I expect you all to believe this, even though ny framing it this way plays into the allegation I just made of Johnny making this a divisive issue of two camps staked on preference for the personalities heading them as opposed to any concern for deeper truths. I expect you to buy into my narrative completely just as I have posed it."
>>130734240How can he be a more talented *musician* when he concedes he wrote no music? If you think the lyrics and Morrissey's singing them constitute the whole of The Smiths, I invite you to compare the tracks with their acapellas, and see how much of the supposed brilliance remains.
>>130734240Johnny Marr made The Smiths good but Morrssey made The Smiths famous.
Moz cooked that libshit pussyboi.
>>130734180The Smiths are like Black Sabbath. Ozzy was arguably the least talented member of Sabbath, but he was also the reason most people paid attention to the band. But Ozzy always relied on a great band to back him and always surrounded himself with talented people, even in his solo career.
Why is there always fake Morrissey postsI always have to check his blog to see if these are legit just like Trump's Truth Social page
>>130737677This isn't fake, it was just taken down.https://stereogum.com/2503340/morrissey-attacks-johnny-marr-in-lengthy-screed-over-new-smiths-documentary/news
>>130734240i just find it odd how godly marr's songwriting skills were in the smiths, and how dogshit and boring everything he's written afterwards is. how does that happen?
>>130738029Most artists peak in their first 3 to 4 years, so it checks out.
>>130737654Are you implying Morrissey is the least talented Smith? Everyone always forgets that the Smiths had a drummer.
>>130734180It’s insane how right he is about everything. Marr literally was nothing without him.
>>130734180I don't really care about Morrissey but anything made by the BBC is guaranteed to be absolute steaming dogshit propaganda.
>>130735421>Morrissey is just a bitter old cat lady who can't handle the fact its not 1984 anymore and he's fat, ugly and old and not famous anymore.What are you talking about? Love him or hate him, Moz is still one of the most famous people out of Britain, in large part due to the amount of people who refuse to shut the fuck up about how le bad he is. Sure, Johnny Marr was a generational guitarist and defined the sound of The Smiths arguably just as much, but the voice of a band is historically always the most iconic.
don't care, far-right losers should be ostracized and not included in things like this. JKR should also not be involved in harry potter franchise things beyond the bare minimum legal requirement
>>130738331Do you really think JKR is far right lol
>>130738345no, she's not far-right, just regular right and bigoted
>>130738383Do you really think JKR is regular right lol
>>130738331>person who invented thing shouldn't be allowed near it because I don't like them
